MoP Beta - Elemental Shaman in Action!

[Mokoi]

Saw this on YouTube, and I wanted to share it. Preach is one of the better beta reviewers on YouTube, so his information is usually presented well. This is a simple dungeon run-through on an elemental shaman showing the damage, new totems etc.

gYVD9E42eh4

[Selz]

That's quite interresting :).. So we still have Chain Heal as elemental, I thougth we were going to lose that?
And Lava Burst a guarenteed crit, no matter what.. I was sad when they removed the glyph, but this is just incredible awesome.

[zenga]

lava burst won't be a guaranteed crit, they removed the glyph from the game afaik

Glyph of Lava Burst. Your Lava Burst spell will always be a critical strike regardless of the presence of Flame Shock on the target, but it deals 5% less damage

[Selz]

I know they removed the glyph, I stated that.. but now Lava Burst is guarenteed crit without glyph
atleast that is what he said, but maybe thats wrong? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=gYVD9E42eh4&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_13976&v=RhGH_qqxn4U

He talks about it on 2 minuts into this movie, which is him talking about the talents and such, even though the tooltip says "if flameshock is on target" he
litually says that it dosnt require it, perhaps its a glitch or something going on in BETA atm.

[zenga]

It's absolutely the first thing I hear about that, and to be honest I'm very sure the guy in the vid is wrong.

[ebony]

This is the the tool tip on the beta version am using (in no tairgear no gems for ech's)

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20663759/MOPBETA/shammys/WoWScrnShot_052512_062932.jpg


Here some tests without FS. ll about the number on the tool tip (so not a Crt)

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20663759/MOPBETA/shammys/WoWScrnShot_052512_064507.jpg


This is with FS and LvB

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20663759/MOPBETA/shammys/WoWScrnShot_052512_064516.jpg a crt gives u a 100% ins cast LvB.

So we back into Wotlk days You see five FS on you your know something bad is about to happen runaway little girl comes to mind here.

[Lyonheart]

what is it now? a "chance" on crit for an extra lava burst?

[zenga]

what is it now? a "chance" on crit for an extra lava burst?

Nothing has changed: if flame shock is on the target and you cast lava burst, it will be a guaranteed crit. What has changed is the amount you crit for: all crits are now 200% baseline for every class, but some specs like ele shaman have a talent (for ele called elemental fury) that makes you crit for 250% of the normal damage.

[Lyonheart]

Sorry, I was talking about the chance to proc an extra lava burst, based on Ebonys last screenshot and comment.. is it a chance to proc? or 100% proc if you crit on lb/cl? If it changed to a 100% proc after a crit, that would up the value of crit right?

[Mokoi]

I don't think he meant that.. i think he meant 100% crit. LvB crits making LvB instant cast wouldn't make any sense. Every single LvB should crit, since all you need is flame shock..

[Lyonheart]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20663759/MOPBETA/shammys/WoWScrnShot_052512_064516.jpg a crt gives u a 100% ins cast LvB.

So we back into Wotlk days You see five FS on you your know something bad is about to happen runaway little girl comes to mind here.[/QUOTE]


I don't think he meant that.. i think he meant 100% crit. LvB crits making LvB instant cast wouldn't make any sense. Every single LvB should crit, since all you need is flame shock..

LOL.. he did not say lvlb crit gives a lvlb .. he said a CRIT will give a 100% INSTA CAST lvlb. I know his english is not perfect, but i am sure i understand what he meant. I think he is talking about lava surge crits are 100% instead of having a "chance" ( like it is now )to give a free lava burst. ( from flame shock ticks )

edit:looking at lava surge tooltip( live in beta atm ), it still says flame shock ticks have a 'chance", so not sure what he means now.. i can see in his screenshot that he had just had a lava surge.

[zenga]

Sorry but this confuses the living shit out of me. I'll try to explain how it works:

- if flame shock IS NOT on the target, lava burst is a normal spell (it can crit or not crit, and it can overload or not)
- if flame shock IS on the target, lava burst is a guaranteed crit, and all elemental spells crit for 250% (instead of 200%) thanks to elemental fury
- each flame shock tick has a 20% chance to proc lava surge, which resets the cooldown of your lava burst
- if lava surge procs, your next lava burst will become an instant cast (exactly like the 4p set bonus in firelands did)
- if mastery procs, (overload), it will be a guaranteed crit if flame shock is on the target, but it deals only 75% of the damage (so 3/4 of 250% = 187.5%)
- if you take echo of the elements, both your lava burst and your overload can be copied, so 1 lava burst can result in maximum 4 lava bursts, last math I saw was around 9-10% chance for echo of the elements to proc

[Lyonheart]

yea i understand all that. I was just replying to his comment which specifically states " a crit gives u a ins cast LvB", and was just looking for clarification if that was a mistaken statement or something that changed ..maybe via a glyph or something. It did sound a tad OP.

[zenga]

" a crit gives u a ins cast LvB", and was just looking for clarification

tried to read that line several times, and I really can't figure it out

[ebony]

ya sorry the tooltip on lava surge reads as u said here but on beta when i tryed on beta i was FS > Lbv > lava surge would proc 100%. and even then it keep going and going and going. think i had like 6 in a row all crits (might be a bug with numbers) but in beta there just silly. ill roll some shammys out this week on beta anyway.

[Lyonheart]

tried to read that line several times, and I really can't figure it out

Let me help you with my magic translator "a crit(ical) gives (yo)u a(n) ins(tant) cast LvB" (LvB=lava burst )


edit: just messing around btw.. i know your not that dumb!

[zenga]

hahaha I honestly didn't figure out the ins = instant part, afterwards it's pretty stupid on my end of course. But now after what ebony said about the 100% lava surge proc I understand the reasoning. I can't imagine that being intended though (I am pretty involved in the theory crafting scene for ele and follow pretty much every new post about it, without reading a single thing).