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candlebox
04-16-2012, 01:34 AM
So running the macro the single target dps macro, i run part one in #1 and part two in #2.

So i spam 1 and 2 at the same time.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kiljaeden/Candleboxa/advanced is my current gear.

I am pulling about 15-17k dps with that macro in LFR 25 man, and in heroics im pulling 13k-16k dps on solo targets.

is this about right with my gear, or am i spammin it wrong?

JackBurton
04-16-2012, 01:41 AM
is two step macros supposed to be pressed simultaneously or the rotation on key press and proc on key release? does it matter?

edit** found my answer at the end of this thread (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/33080-My-2-ISBoxer-2-Step-Macro-and-Setup/page14)

are you using the ones based off Mercurio's (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/32633-Mecurio-s-Cataclysm-Multiboxing-Macros) or Argents (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/33080-My-2-ISBoxer-2-Step-Macro-and-Setup)?

candlebox
04-16-2012, 01:56 AM
i use mercs 2 step, but i broke it down into two buttons. Two step macros are kinda iffy for me.

candlebox
04-16-2012, 08:46 AM
Here is a SS of dps:

Ultrax

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4889/wowscrnshot041612073818.jpg
By candleboxx (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/candleboxx) at 2012-04-16

and overall

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1329/wowscrnshot041612073710.jpg
By candleboxx (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/candleboxx) at 2012-04-16

candlebox
04-16-2012, 08:48 AM
notice that Gaids is top on dmg done.

zenga
04-16-2012, 08:59 AM
So running the macro the single target dps macro, i run part one in #1 and part two in #2.

So i spam 1 and 2 at the same time.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kiljaeden/Candleboxa/advanced is my current gear.

I am pulling about 15-17k dps with that macro in LFR 25 man, and in heroics im pulling 13k-16k dps on solo targets.

is this about right with my gear, or am i spammin it wrong?

There is a lot you can do with your gear, i.e. gem/enchant/reforge correctly: gem boots, get int/spirit enchant for legs, gem waist & get the belt buckle for an extra gem, enchant your hands, enchant your wrist, change resil gem in chest & shoulder, no head/shoulder enchant (from honor or rep). Not reforged whatsoever to get hit capped for raid bosses.

For ele the stat priority is: hit/spirit till cap (1742 for raidboss, less for a dranei), intellect, spell power, haste, mastery, crit (haste is close to mastery and not mutually exclusive, once you obtain 4 pieces of T13 mastery pulls ahead).

But yeah, in pve gear you can't pvp, and in pvp gear you'll do shit dps in pve.

candlebox
04-16-2012, 05:53 PM
i understand the geming stat priotity, but was just making sure my macro was working correctly. Im sure ill throw another 2k on there with hit cap.

not that i care to much about pve, would be nice to do decent enough not to get kicked from raids.

Bollwerk
04-16-2012, 06:06 PM
As a matter of comparison, if anyone cares, in LFR I pull about 28K DPS on my lesser geared Ele Shamans (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Alzuriel/advanced) and about 33K on my main raiding shaman (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Aluvriel/advanced), averaged across all 8 boss fights.
At least according to recount. Take that for what it's worth.
My lesser shamans are almost always in the top 10 DPS and my main is usually in the top 5, if not higher.

candlebox
04-16-2012, 06:18 PM
So my macro is crap? or is it because you are hit capped/ pve gear

zenga
04-16-2012, 11:20 PM
So my macro is crap? or is it because you are hit capped/ pve gear

With your awful stats the damage you do isn't that bad i'd say. Bollwerk does more because he has good trinkets, he is gemmed/reforged and has the 4 set pve gear bonus (allthough he should use int/mastery gems instead of int/haste, but that won't make the big difference, and while i'm at it glyph of lava burst > glyph of lightning bolt because overload lava bursts benefit from the glyph whereas lb overloads are not influenced by it).

Bollwerk
04-17-2012, 01:49 PM
With your awful stats the damage you do isn't that bad i'd say. Bollwerk does more because he has good trinkets, he is gemmed/reforged and has the 4 set pve gear bonus (allthough he should use int/mastery gems instead of int/haste, but that won't make the big difference, and while i'm at it glyph of lava burst > glyph of lightning bolt because overload lava bursts benefit from the glyph whereas lb overloads are not influenced by it).
I'm a bit of a slave to the reforge/gemming/enchanting advice of askmrrobot.com - I'm way too lazy to do the math on my own for each toon. =)
I'll have to post on their forums about the mastery thing for 4pc.
I wasn't aware of the glyph thing. I'll have to change that out.

Thanks.

Edit - Turns out they (AMR) are aware of the haste/mastery thing, but they are unwilling/unable to setup AMR to detect for 2pc/4pc bonuses to alter stat weights, so their advice is to manually adjust stat weights.
Any suggestions on what my stat weights should be?

zenga
04-17-2012, 03:34 PM
I'm a bit of a slave to the reforge/gemming/enchanting advice of askmrrobot.com - I'm way too lazy to do the math on my own for each toon. =)
I'll have to post on their forums about the mastery thing for 4pc.
I wasn't aware of the glyph thing. I'll have to change that out.

Thanks.

Edit - Turns out they (AMR) are aware of the haste/mastery thing, but they are unwilling/unable to setup AMR to detect for 2pc/4pc bonuses to alter stat weights, so their advice is to manually adjust stat weights.
Any suggestions on what my stat weights should be?

It's a myth that there is something like a universal stat weight for ele shamans. it's different for every gear level. Many of these reforging tools use the best in slot stat weights. But what you need to do is download simcraft, import your toon and run a simulation with stats weight enabled, that will show the correct stat weights for your gear. Haste and mastery are pretty close to eachother before you have the 4p set bonus, unless you have the legendary. askmrrobot is ... well I don't want to use the piece of crap word, but you get the picture. There is a brilliant addon called reforgelight, and when you talk to the reforge dude it should pop up automatically. I just put in some crazy high value for mastery, lower one for haste and 0 for crit, and leave hit cap enabled. It does the job correctly and will reforge all your gear. Really the best advice I can give you is download simcraft, it even allows you to import your armory. And if you want to play around there is a site called chardev, that you can export as well to simcraft.

Bollwerk
04-17-2012, 03:52 PM
I've tried to learn and use simcraft in the past, but the learning curve is too steep for me to invest my time in. If I were in a bleeding edge progression guild, I would. But I'm not. =)
I'll check out reforgelight and try your suggestions.
I don't think AMR is crap, but it isn't 100% accurate/reliable for all situations.

candlebox
04-17-2012, 04:08 PM
well i reforged every piece to get enough hit rating. will run today and see how i do in LFR.

zenga
04-17-2012, 07:10 PM
I've tried to learn and use simcraft in the past, but the learning curve is too steep for me to invest my time in. If I were in a bleeding edge progression guild, I would. But I'm not. =)
I'll check out reforgelight and try your suggestions.
I don't think AMR is crap, but it isn't 100% accurate/reliable for all situations.

I'll make a small video guide later today for simcraft

candlebox
04-17-2012, 07:36 PM
i noticed a slight difference in dps, but i still sit around the same numbers. im going to go with gearing now. I got another piece of LFR on my shaman and he is higher than the other two.

Bollwerk
04-23-2012, 04:09 PM
I should note that I had to tweak Mercurio's 2 step macros a bit to work better for my stats.
I would suggest using a raid dummy with a single toon, make sure "#showtooltip" is at the top of your macro, then watch closely as you DPS, to see if the macro is getting hung anywhere on a cooldown and watch your lightning shield charges to see when Earth Shield is going off.
Also make sure Flame Shock is recasting before it drops, but not overlapping TOO much. Ideally, I think you want it to recast when there's 1-2sec left on it.
With a macro, it's nearly impossible to get Earth Shield to always cast at the ideal (7-8 charges) time, but you can still get pretty good DPS if you keep an eye on those things I mentioned.

candlebox
04-23-2012, 07:52 PM
ill look into it. i still feel sluggish with 3 pc and the staff from LFR.