GUIDE: Click Healing System Using Party Frames

[chazz]

INTRODUCTION:

This guide will take you through setting up a flawless Click Healing system that allows you to heal with your Slave character by clicking on the Party Frames on your Lead character. It works with all Mouse Buttons except for the Right Mouse Button.
Also be sure to check out the Set Target System (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/46435-GUIDE-Set-Target-System?p=354740#post354740) guide that works great together with this!

NOTE: Go to the third reply to read about REPEATER REGION ALTERNATIVE.

Video Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jyu6yA8Tvk
(Note: The video only shows the Click Healing functionality. And the lag was due to using Camtasia Studio which I will never use again to record ingame footage.)


USER INTERFACE (Optional)
First we will want to set up our User Interface in Star Wars: The Old Republic.

- Press Esc on your keyboard, go to Preferences and click on User Interface. Now scroll down to the bottom and check the option for "Use Operations Frames as Party Frames".
You can also adjust the width and height of the health bars to your liking.

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Unlock your party frames and move them to where you can easily and quickly reach them to do your healing.
You can turn on the mouse and keyboard Repeater (Shift+Alt+R), which makes it easy to place the Party Frame at the exact same spot on both your Slave and Lead character.
Here is an example of what this could look like;

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CREATE CLICK BAR & MOUSEROVER KEY
Now that we have our Interface set up properly, we need to create a Click Bar in ISBoxer that will cover the entire Party Frame.
The size of this Click Bar will of course vary depending on how you have set your Party Frame up and how big it is.

Set up the Click Bar
- Open up ISBoxer
- Right-click on Click Bars and choose "New Click Bar"
- Name your Click Bar whatever you want.
- Click on Buttons and set up your button by adjusting the cell values (1 cell = 1 pixel), so that it can fit over your Party Frames.
- Click on Color and set Alpha to 0. This will make your Click Bar completely transparent.
- I suggest that you keep Cell Border Size at 1 for now as it will make placement of the Click Bar much easier.
- Save and export to Innerspace.

Set up the Mouserover Key
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it Mouseover (or whatever you want).
- Set it to "pressed OR released" and add a second step.
- In Step 1 disable the Assist and DPS keys for your Slave and in Step 2 enable them again. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.
- In Step 1 also enable your Mouse# keys and in Step 2 disable them. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.

SET UP CLICK BAR & REPEATER REGION
Load up your multiboxing team through Innerspace and open the window for your Lead character.

- Open the ISBoxer Interface (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+G).
- Click on the Click Bars tab and the Show All button.
- Drag your newly created Click Bar and place it over your Party Frames.
- Click on Save As Auto.

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Once you have placed your Click Bar correctly (should look like the image above) and made sure it fits, it's time to create a Repeater Region.

- Go back to the ISBoxer Interface (or open it up again if you closed it).
- Click on the Repeater Region tab.
- Type in a name, choose a target window, choose your Mouseover key for enter/exit and click on the Add button.
- Drag your newly created Repeater Region over to your Party Frames and Click Bar and resize it to cover the entire area (same size as your Click Bar).
- Hit the Sync button to synchronize the window with your Slave character (who should have a grey area appear over his/her Party Frames now).
- Click on Save As Auto.

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At this point you should have a working Repeater Region over your Party Frames that will pass mouse input to your Slave.
You will however notice that if you click on a target, the Repeater Region will stop working.
The reason for this is that once the click passes through the Repeater Region it also hits our Click Bar and our Click Bar jumps to the foreground and blocks our Repeater Region.
You might also have noticed that the Click Bar is blocking our Lead character from clicking on his/her Party Frames. This is a biproduct of using a Click Bar, but also a necessary function for us as we don't want our Lead character to switch targets in combat when healing with our Slave.


CREATE ISBOXER KEYS
Go back into ISBoxer, it's time for us to set up some keys to make this setup work as we want it to.

Set up Healing Ability key (Optional)
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it after the ability you are going to use.
- In the first step right click on Actions then choose Keystroke Actions, New Keystroke Action. Choose your Slave as Target and your ingame keybind for Key Combination.
- Make sure to choose ON in the dropdown list for "Hold any Keystroke Actions while Hotkey is held" for this key, if you are using a modifier (Shift, Ctrl or Alt) for your ability ingame.

Set up Mouse1 Healing key (This will be used with our Click Bar)
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it "Mouse1 Healing" (or whatever you want).
- Choose "pressed OR released" in the dropdown list for "Execute a Step when the Hotkey is" for this key.
- Add a second step to the key and leave the first one empty.
- In the second step right click on Actions and choose Keymap Actions, New Do Keymap Action. Choose Window: Current as Target and then choose your Healing Ability key.
- Right click on Actions and choose Repeater Actions, New Repeater Regions Action and type in Auto in the box for "Load region set named".

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The image above shows my ability key (Deliverence) and my Mouse1 Healing key.
The reason that we leave an empty step in our Mouse1 Healing key is because we want the press of our Left Mouse Button to go through the Repeater Region that we set up and choose a target for our Slave, and the release of the button to do the actual healing.
We are also reloading the Repeater Region in the second step so that it jumps back to the foreground (infront of the Click Bar) and allows us to use it again.

Set up Mouse# Healing key (Optional) (# can be any number, set up whichever mouse buttons you want to use)
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it "Mouse# Healing" (or whatever you want).
- Hotkey this to the Mouse# key.
- Choose "pressed OR released" in the dropdown list for "Execute a Step when the Hotkey is" for this key.
- Go into the first step, right click on Actions and choose Keystroke Actions, New Keystroke Action. Choose your Slave as Target and Mouse1 as the Key Combination.
- Add a second step for this key.
- Go into the second step, right click on Actions and choose Key Map Actions, New Do Mapped Key Action. Choose Window: Current as Target and then choose a Healing Ability key.

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You can repeat the step above to set up any Mouse Button you want to use to heal (see picture for example).
However it should be mentioned that you cannot use the Right Mouse Button since that will make your Slave right click on a Party Frame and open up a menu.
You also need to think about that Mouse1 and any Healing Ability key you choose, will always be sent when you use your Mouse# button. This is generally not a problem, but Mouse4 for example is by default used to toggle autorun for your character in Star Wars: The Old Republic.
You can however make this a non-issue by enabling/disabling it in your Mouseover key.

Set up Load Repeater Region key (this will load our Repeater Region when we load or reload our Character Set).
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it "Load Repeater Region" (or whatever you want).
- In the first step right click on Actions, Repeater Actions, New Repeater Regions Action and type in Auto in the box for "Load region set named".
EDIT: - Also disable all your Mouse# Heal keys (except for Mouse1) in the first step of this key.
- Go up to Character Sets in the ISBoxer menu and click on your team.
- At the bottom you'll find "Perform this Mapped Key when Character Set is loaded or reloaded", click on the button beneath and choose Window: Current as Target and then the mapped key you just created (Load Repeater Region).

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Without the Load Repeater Region key the Click Bar will be infront of our Repeater Region when we load or reload our Character Set (everytime we launch our team for example or if you make any changes in ISBoxer that you then export to Innerspace).

Configure the Click Bar
- Click on your Click Bar that you created earlier and set Cell Size Border to 0, to make it completely invisible.
- Click on Buttons and then click on your button twice, to bring up the option to use a mapped key when left clicking on the Click Bar ingame.
- Choose Window: Current for Target and then choose your Mouse1 Healing key that you set up before.

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And that, ladies and gentlemen, means that we are finished and that you can now Save and Export everything to Innerspace and enjoy healing using your Party Frames.

[Norrin]

WOW awesome.
That was an amazingly well written guide.

I have not jumped in boxing SWTOR yet, but might try this on my Sorc for healing my wife.

[Lax]

Nice job on the guide, very well done. :)

With some minor tweaks you a) wouldn't be restricted to left clicks (use any hotkey by temporarily enabling a Key Map with the Click Bar button's "Mouseover" option) and b) the Repeater Region can be dropped (use a Sync Cursor Action, and a Keystroke Action with Mouse1 on it if needed).

Not sure whether or not you got the idea from this guide for WoW or not, but if not there's more details in a couple posts by me and some screenshots of implementation by Jafula right below it: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=30511&page=2#post284546

[chazz]

REPEATER REGION ALTERNATIVE
If you have any problems at all using the Repeater Region you could instead use Sync Cursor Action.
This will however require that you first choose your target by clicking once on your Party Frames and then another click to do the actual healing.
Here's how you can do this;

- Remove your Repeater Region if you have one set up.
- Go into the first step of your Mouse1 Healing key, right click on Actions and choose New Sync Cursor Action. Choose your Slave as the Target.
- Go into the second step of your Mouse1 Healing key and remove the Repeater Regions key as well as your Healing Ability key. Right click on Actions and choose Keystroke Actions, New Keystroke Action. Choose your Slave as Target and Mouse1 as Key Combination.

You would then need to set up additional Steps to do the healing.
This can be done in a identical fashion for any other Mouse# key. We do however want to keep our Click Bar and NOT hotkey our Mouse1 Healing key, since that would mess up our Left Mouse Button that we so often use ingame for other things.
You also want to add your Mouseover key to your Click Bars Mouseover option.

[Rulgan]

Thank you making this guide Chazz.

This will help me get everything setup without having to figure it out for myself.

[Lax]

This will however require that you first choose your target by clicking once on your Party Frames and then another click to do the actual healing.
Did you try setting the "Execute a step" drop-down box to "pressed OR released"? When you press the button, Step 1 fires, when you let go, Step 2 fires. You should be able to get it to work like this instead of having to click twice :)

[chazz]

Norrin & Rulgan:
Glad you found the guide useful!

Lax:
I did, yes.
However you have to have the Sync Cursor Action on Step 1, the Mouse1 keystroke on Step 2 and the Healing Ability you want to use on Step 3.
If you put the Mouse1 keystroke on Step 1 it doesn't work and if you put the Healing Ability on Step 2 the character fires that off before receiving the new target.

EDIT: By the way, since this got removed from my reply above when I edited it, thank you for linking to that thread! :)
I had never read it before but skimming through it I realized how I could solve the limited Mouse Button issue, which I did (the guide is updated).

[Pyro_box]

Chazz

Thanks so much for taking the time to provide every detail in terms that dummies like me can comprehend.
After such a long break from multi-boxing, and with SWTOR not utilizing having macros implemented into the game I have found that my memory is lacking. ((Was very spoiled by WoW and all the addons that good folks provided me with) Posts like yours, and especially those of Lax, and others, reinforce how committed this community is to helping others enjoy the passion/obsession that is multi-boxing.

[chazz]

Chazz

Thanks so much for taking the time to provide every detail in terms that dummies like me can comprehend.
After such a long break from multi-boxing, and with SWTOR not utilizing having macros implemented into the game I have found that my memory is lacking. ((Was very spoiled by WoW and all the addons that good folks provided me with) Posts like yours, and especially those of Lax, and others, reinforce how committed this community is to helping others enjoy the passion/obsession that is multi-boxing.


Glad to hear you found it useful! :)

I have also updated the guide to include a flexible assist & follow system. This can be found in the third reply of the thread.
(Would be great if a Moderator could move that reply to the first reply slot, if you guys have access to such a feature)

EDIT:
A question to anyone with the knowledge. Is Target Party Member 4 (F5) ever used? We have F1 to target ourselves and then F2-F5 to target all four party members; which should mean that one of those would target ourselves as well? In my experience however it doesn't.
I haven't reached endgame yet, but as far as I am aware there are only 4-man parties in swtor, right?

EDIT#2:
Updated the guide to cover setting up a Mouseover key in the Repeater Region, to disable/enable assist and dps keys as well as the Mouse# keys for the Slave character while healing.
Also disabling any Mouse# keys (most important is Mouse4 since it by default is used to toggle autorun in Star Wars: The Old Republic) on startup.

[Bloodcloud]

/bump for sticky

[Kro]

/bump for sticky

Agree

[Mercbeast]

The one problem I think you may run into with the variable target system Chazz describes(unless I completely missed it!) is that occasionally your characters are not sync'd up in the group. What I mean by this is, Character 1 is slot 2 for Character 2, and Character 2 is slot 3 for Character 1.

This means that you cannot properly drive with both characters, you pick one, and if you run with the other one your slave follows and assists the wrong person.

With the Chazz system it seems to me the solution would be to define a second toggle key and tie each character to its own ATG. Toggle 1 cycles party 1 through 4 for others in ATG1. Toggle 2 cycles party 1 through 4 for others in ATG2. What this should do is only send the appropriate assist keys to the character ONLY if they are not the focus.

If you haven't run into the issue I am describing Chazz, it seems rare but it does occur where the party re-orders and your characters are not sequential in their positioning.

[chazz]

The one problem I think you may run into with the variable target system Chazz describes(unless I completely missed it!) is that occasionally your characters are not sync'd up in the group. What I mean by this is, Character 1 is slot 2 for Character 2, and Character 2 is slot 3 for Character 1.

This means that you cannot properly drive with both characters, you pick one, and if you run with the other one your slave follows and assists the wrong person.

With the Chazz system it seems to me the solution would be to define a second toggle key and tie each character to its own ATG. Toggle 1 cycles party 1 through 4 for others in ATG1. Toggle 2 cycles party 1 through 4 for others in ATG2. What this should do is only send the appropriate assist keys to the character ONLY if they are not the focus.

If you haven't run into the issue I am describing Chazz, it seems rare but it does occur where the party re-orders and your characters are not sequential in their positioning.

This is absolutely true Mercbeast, if you are playing more than two characters. For just two the current system should work (change Target Window from Character Slot 2 to All w/o Current).

[chazz]

EDIT:
New Set Target System (http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/46435-GUIDE-Set-Target-System?p=354740#post354740) guide.

[IMTrick]

Love the tutorial, and it all sounds great to me... in theory. :)

I'm sure I'm missing something, though. I can get everything set up, and it all works great (using the original method), except that my heal doesn't kick off on mouse up. I feel like I'm really close to getting this to work for my four-man group, but I can't for the life of me get the heal to go off, and I'm yanking my hair out trying to figure out why not. Targetting on my healer slave is working great, but then... nothing.

I'll admit I'm a bit of an ISBoxer noob, though I think I do all right with it. I think I've seen references to a debugging mode, but haven't been able to find one. Is there a way I can figure out what's actually happening when I let go of my mouse button?

[chazz]

IMTrick:
As far as "debugging mode" goes I would advise you to contact Lax, as I cannot answer that myself.
Otherwise it would be helpful if you could provide a bit more information regarding your issue and I can try to help you out.

Are you talking about the "Mouse1 Healing Key" that you are using on "Left Click" with your Click Bar? If so, make sure that this key has "pressed OR released" checked so that it triggers Step 1 on Mouse"down" and Step 2 on Mouse"up".
Also something I sometimes do for "manual debugging" when something seems to be wrong is to insert a Pop-Up text message in my keys to see if they fire off at all, or if a certain step fires off as it should etc.

[IMTrick]

Are you talking about the "Mouse1 Healing Key" that you are using on "Left Click" with your Click Bar? If so, make sure that this key has "pressed OR released" checked so that it triggers Step 1 on Mouse"down" and Step 2 on Mouse"up".
Also something I sometimes do for "manual debugging" when something seems to be wrong is to insert a Pop-Up text message in my keys to see if they fire off at all, or if a certain step fires off as it should etc.


Thanks... not sure which step isn't firing, though I do have my Mouse 1 Healing key set to "Pressed or Released."

The pop-up thing is a great tip, though. I'll give that a shot. I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious, and that may just me enough to point me at where I've screwed it up.

[balrog78]

I have the same problem sometimes. But it also works sometimes. Currently it is very random to me, I cant find a pattern to analyze what I am doing wrong. I will also try with the popup text to get more information.
What I noted is that I am often able to click through the click bar. So my main is actually targetting the group members. Of course in that case the heal is not casted and also the repeater region not loaded again.

[Apps]

Chazz,

K, first. Excellent info there. Its taken me a little bit to get my head wrapped around whats going on there. So I got a couple questions.

1. How does this differ / is better than negating the use of the repeater region completely, and just using the clickbars coupled with the "Target Me" and a particular mapped key for the healer on an aux action bar?

(Reason being, the Mosg/Apps method for healing.. which we stole from Remanz...hehe... works flawlessly. Instant window swaps to handle a toon specific emergency or movement, with synced bars, still allows for the same heal setup from any window) Could we not also use another method of click targeting and click healing by the way of a video feed from each toon, to each toon, saved as Auto within the setup screen, interdependent for each, and a simple clickbar or bar(s) for each to "click through" heal?

2. If we're currently using a click to heal method, have you tried a multi key from mouse for healing? I.e. both left and right mouse buttons for shielding? Or would the driving toon move forward too much? would we have to disable mouse movement on the lead window? (this seems a bit more cumbersome now that I put it in writing.)

[IMTrick]

What I noted is that I am often able to click through the click bar. So my main is actually targetting the group members. Of course in that case the heal is not casted and also the repeater region not loaded again.

Yep, that was exactly what I was running into... The click bar wasn't getting clicked. After screwing around a bit in the console and saving/re-exporting/yelling at the click bar and repeater area a few times, it's working great now.

Oh, man, is this easier than how I was doing healing before. I'm a happy boxer.

[balrog78]

Yep, that was exactly what I was running into... The click bar wasn't getting clicked. After screwing around a bit in the console and saving/re-exporting/yelling at the click bar and repeater area a few times, it's working great now.

Oh, man, is this easier than how I was doing healing before. I'm a happy boxer.

If you start a 2nd team you might run into the issue again. I had it perfectly working until I switched to my 2nd team. But maybe your setup is more stable than mine.
What I have now is F1-F4 to do the healing. for me it is also easier than having to move the mouse pointer.

[chazz]

Chazz,

K, first. Excellent info there. Its taken me a little bit to get my head wrapped around whats going on there. So I got a couple questions.

1. How does this differ / is better than negating the use of the repeater region completely, and just using the clickbars coupled with the "Target Me" and a particular mapped key for the healer on an aux action bar?

(Reason being, the Mosg/Apps method for healing.. which we stole from Remanz...hehe... works flawlessly. Instant window swaps to handle a toon specific emergency or movement, with synced bars, still allows for the same heal setup from any window) Could we not also use another method of click targeting and click healing by the way of a video feed from each toon, to each toon, saved as Auto within the setup screen, interdependent for each, and a simple clickbar or bar(s) for each to "click through" heal?

2. If we're currently using a click to heal method, have you tried a multi key from mouse for healing? I.e. both left and right mouse buttons for shielding? Or would the driving toon move forward too much? would we have to disable mouse movement on the lead window? (this seems a bit more cumbersome now that I put it in writing.)

The difference between using this and just using Click Bars is that you can target and heal by clicking the actual Player Portraits in the Party Frame rather than a Click Bar placed next to it, which at least to me is more intuitive and doesn't clutter my UI with unnecessary graphics. However using Click Bars will give you an extra Mouse Button. I used Click Bars to heal my companions when I was dual-boxing and VideoFX to display their healthbars beneath them.
As for your second question I have not tried that, as far as I know it isn't even supported in ISBoxer?



Yep, that was exactly what I was running into... The click bar wasn't getting clicked. After screwing around a bit in the console and saving/re-exporting/yelling at the click bar and repeater area a few times, it's working great now.

Oh, man, is this easier than how I was doing healing before. I'm a happy boxer.

Glad it worked out for you.
Regarding the issue you and Balrog78 seemed to have; I have never experienced that myself. But I haven't played my team with a healer in it for a few weeks now, so maybe it's a bug that has snuck in through an update of ISBoxer or something.

[OldRod_KS]

used Click Bars to heal my companions when I was dual-boxing and VideoFX to display their healthbars beneath them.

Would you be able to show how to set up this VideoFX (in idiot-steps preferably :))? I love the click bar healing I have set up for my 2-box now, but having to look at the secondary screen to see the other companion health bar is annoying :)

[Apps]

The difference between using this and just using Click Bars is that you can target and heal by clicking the actual Player Portraits in the Party Frame rather than a Click Bar placed next to it, which at least to me is more intuitive and doesn't clutter my UI with unnecessary graphics.

Sorry, thats not right.

If a person were to make a keymap for the heal skill or anything really, and set up that mapped key to use assist, or target, or specifically press a "Target Party Member X" function in game, and reference that mapped key when setting up the click bar, you can absolutely target the player and heal them. Really, how else would you heal them if you didnt target them?

Example. I lead with Toon A. Toon B is the healer. Toon C needs a heal. On Toon A window, I click the 90% translucent clickbar. Toon B heals Toon C. I didnt have to target anything, press any key combination, nor did I have to swap screens or even look at Toon B or C windows, because I can see it go off from the Party portraits on the side. And as you mentioned, if using the clickbars, a person can set up multiple functions, name it, color it, hell, just for grins n giggles, I set up 4 click bars for heals, and mounting. Then I turned off my UI completely, as the clickbars sit on top, and I completely cleared out my screen for "cluttered UI". Pressing "1" through whatever key for my dps rotations, and the 4 click bars... the game functions perfectly, with NOTHING on the screen but my team.

I hope this doesnt sound like a "Negative Nancy" cause your stuff looks good. Just seems like doing it the hard way.

[chazz]

Sorry, thats not right.
You missinterpreted what I was saying.
I haven't played my team with a healer for quite a while now and have no access to the game nor my team at this moment, so I can't verify/re-check this, but;
When I created my first team I noticed that the Party Member Slots got shifted around and they didn't seem to stick to any logical arrangement, which meant that the first player in the Party Frame could be "Party Member #3" for example.
Due to this I came up with the idea of using Repeater Region & Click Bar to allow me to always target the correct Party Member by simply clicking on their portrait, which is the most intuitive way since their entire portrait is a health bar.

If this has changed in any way, or if by some miracle I ran across a bug when setting up my first team, then just using the transparent Click Bar could potentially work just as well. And give you an extra Mouse Button to boot.

[Apps]

Ahhhhhh. I see now.

I always invite my members in order. So the way I have ISBoxer currently set up works every time. I can definitely see how if that wasnt the case, the clickbars would still work, but not for the right toon.

Now that I understand, your method is a very good solution to that problem, AND use a clickbar to heal.

I gotcha. I did misunderstand.

[chazz]

I can definitely see how if that wasnt the case, the clickbars would still work, but not for the right toon.
Precisely. If the Party Frame had logical arrangement of 1,2,3,4 in descending order then the Repeater Region wouldn't be necessary. But in my experience, when I created this, it didn't.

OldRod_KS:
I'm afraid I can't give you a super clear step-by-step guide at this moment, but the rundown of it is;
You create two VideoFX Sources on your Slave character. Place one over the health bar of his/her Companion's portrait and then make your Lead's companion the focus target on your Slave and place the other VideoFX Source over that health bar as well.
Then on your Lead create two VideoFX Viewers and place them wherever you want them and resize them to your liking (same procedure as a Repeater Region).

One thing to note is that the health bar of your Lead's Companion will be mirrored and thus the health will drop from the opposite side of your Slave's companion. Not sure if it's possible to flip the VideoFX Viewer in any way.
I also used a 'ToggleFX' key I created to toggle the Click Bars and VideoFX Viewers off and on, so that I didn't have to have them visible when I wasn't using my Companions.

[Apatheist]

When I run 3 Sages, whichever window I'm currently on won't heal because there's no option in repeater regions to target "All with current", only "All other".

Any idea how to fix this?

[chazz]

When I run 3 Sages, whichever window I'm currently on won't heal because there's no option in repeater regions to target "All with current", only "All other".

Any idea how to fix this?
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. A Repeater Region repeats the actions from the current window to other specified window(s).
And if you're using the 'system' from this particular guide, I'm not sure just how you are trying to use it for several characters (as in theory it wouldn't work for multiple healers without changing things around).

[Apatheist]

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. A Repeater Region repeats the actions from the current window to other specified window(s).
And if you're using the 'system' from this particular guide, I'm not sure just how you are trying to use it for several characters (as in theory it wouldn't work for multiple healers without changing things around).

It works fine for multiple healers, just not the primary window. When you configure repeater, it doesn't have the option to pass clicks to "all w/ current". It's not really a big deal though, it's just as easy for me to target the person and use a basic assist key with my healing.

[chazz]

It works fine for multiple healers, just not the primary window. When you configure repeater, it doesn't have the option to pass clicks to "all w/ current". It's not really a big deal though, it's just as easy for me to target the person and use a basic assist key with my healing.
If multiple healers are working fine for you then you are probably doing something different than what this guide describes, since this guide has the Lead character block off his/her Party Frame with a Click Bar (so if you were sending mouse clicks to the Lead from a Slave the Lead wouldn't be able to aquire a target).
Also I'm still not sure what you mean by "all w/ current" for the Repeater Region, since a Repeater Region sends whatever mouse input that happens within the region on the current window to the other windows. Meaning it doesn't function like a Mapped Key/Action where "all others" only sends the key to the other windows but not the current one.

EDIT:
I should clarify that I assumed, due to how you worded the beginning of the following sentence; "When I run 3 Sages, whichever window I'm currently on..."
That you mean that you are trying to be able to heal from all three characters.
Of course this guide would work for multiple healers, as long as you're 'controlling' them from the same character. Otherwise you would run into the problem with the Click Bar blocking off the Party Frames as I described above.
Getting it to work for all characters is however probably possible and something you might already have done, seeing as how you said it worked fine, but it would require doing things differently than what this guide describes (not using the Party Frame for targeting for example).

[sylvanelf27]

I'm having a little trouble. I followed the guide to the best of my ability, but I'm missing something. I have it when I press mouse 1 I case my HoT, when I press mouse 4 I cast my big heal, and when I press mouse 5 I cast my shield. The only problem is I'm not changing targets depending on where I click in the "group bar". My sage just casts on whatever is last targeted. Any aid would be helpful on where to look.

[chazz]

I'm having a little trouble. I followed the guide to the best of my ability, but I'm missing something. I have it when I press mouse 1 I case my HoT, when I press mouse 4 I cast my big heal, and when I press mouse 5 I cast my shield. The only problem is I'm not changing targets depending on where I click in the "group bar". My sage just casts on whatever is last targeted. Any aid would be helpful on where to look.
Make sure you are reloading the Repeater Region in your heal keys so that it gets brought back into the 'foreground', otherwise the Click Bar will block it off after the initial click goes through.

[sylvanelf27]

I had forgotten to set up repeater region so it wasn't clicking through. I hate to ask for help again, but I can't seem to get it right. I now have no HoT (rejuvenation) when I left click, and it will often try to cast wherever I click, not just in that region. And it's even messing up my main window. Spent another 4 hours on it today messing around trying to get it working.

[chazz]

I had forgotten to set up repeater region so it wasn't clicking through. I hate to ask for help again, but I can't seem to get it right. I now have no HoT (rejuvenation) when I left click, and it will often try to cast wherever I click, not just in that region. And it's even messing up my main window. Spent another 4 hours on it today messing around trying to get it working.
Make sure that you haven't hotkeyed Mouse1 in ISBoxer, that key should only be used with the Click Bar when you left-click on it (that way it will not go off on all left-clicks you do in the game).
Also make sure that you are disabling all the other Mouse# Heal keys that you are using (Mouse4 etc) in the 'Load Repeater Region' key and that you are enabling/disabling them in your 'Mouseover' key as well.
Those two keys will make sure that all your Mouse# Heal keys are disabled when you load your character set and that they get enabled while you mouse over the Click Bar and then gets disabled again when you remove the mouse from the area.

[sylvanelf27]

Thanks my friend you made an awesome guide. I am still a n00b, but after I decided to figure out what everything was doing exactly, I was able to figure out what was missing. Thanks for the help and an awesome addition to isboxer.

[hakkiri]

Set up the Mouserover Key
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it Mouseover (or whatever you want).
- Set it to "pressed OR released" and add a second step.
- In Step 1 disable the Assist and DPS keys for your Slave and in Step 2 enable them again. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.
- In Step 1 also enable your Mouse# keys and in Step 2 disable them. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.

I'm new to this. Please explain the meaning in disabling Assist and DPS keys?

[Igg]

Chazz,
I could not get this to work for the life of me, anychance you can post your isboxer xml so we can dissect it / adapt it ?
Worse case, see the full setup that you did so we can make it work?

Thanks

[chazz]

Set up the Mouserover Key
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it Mouseover (or whatever you want).
- Set it to "pressed OR released" and add a second step.
- In Step 1 disable the Assist and DPS keys for your Slave and in Step 2 enable them again. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.
- In Step 1 also enable your Mouse# keys and in Step 2 disable them. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.

I'm new to this. Please explain the meaning in disabling Assist and DPS keys?

Disable and enable the keys that you use for Assist and DPS in two steps (Step 1 disable, Step 2 enable) so that when you're mousing over the area; the healer doesn't try to assist or do dps and interrupts his/her heals.


Chazz,
I could not get this to work for the life of me, anychance you can post your isboxer xml so we can dissect it / adapt it ?
Worse case, see the full setup that you did so we can make it work?

Thanks

Unfortunately I don't have my XML file available anymore and my SWTOR subscriptions have been cancelled.
But if you can try to explain where/when you get lost or have issues; I will do my best to help you out.

[recitative]

Set up the Mouserover Key
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it Mouseover (or whatever you want).
- Set it to "pressed OR released" and add a second step.
- In Step 1 disable the Assist and DPS keys for your Slave and in Step 2 enable them again. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.
- In Step 1 also enable your Mouse# keys and in Step 2 disable them. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.

I'm new to this. Please explain the meaning in disabling Assist and DPS keys?

I still don't understand this. Select which key? where do you select the key? Anyway you can provide a step by step with image tutorial from the start. I feel like I have too many key maps or they are not set up correctly.

[chazz]

Set up the Mouserover Key
- Create a new mapped key in any Key Map you want and name it Mouseover (or whatever you want).
- Set it to "pressed OR released" and add a second step.
- In Step 1 disable the Assist and DPS keys for your Slave and in Step 2 enable them again. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.
- In Step 1 also enable your Mouse# keys and in Step 2 disable them. Do this by choosing Keymap Actions, New Key Map/Mapped Key State Action.

I'm new to this. Please explain the meaning in disabling Assist and DPS keys?

I still don't understand this. Select which key? where do you select the key? Anyway you can provide a step by step with image tutorial from the start. I feel like I have too many key maps or they are not set up correctly.
The point of this Mouserover Key is to enable the healing keys and disable whatever keys you use to Assist and DPS while mousing over the Party Frame (the Clickbar), and then disable the healing keys and enable the Assist and DPS keys again when you remove the mouse from that area.

So you need to create the Mouseover key as instructed above.
Then create two steps in this key and in Step 1 right-click on Actions, choose Keymap Actions and then either New Key Map State Action or New Mapped Key State Action (depending on if you want to disable an entire keymap or just an individual mapped key).
Then choose your assist and dps keys here and set the state to OFF (if you choose individual mapped keys, you need to do this for all the keys as you can only change the state of one key at a time).
Do the exact same thing for your Heal keys, but set them to ON.
Now in Step 2 repeat the above process but set the Assist & DPS keys to ON and the Heal keys to OFF.

And again, when I say the "Assist & DPS keys" I mean whatever keys you have configured yourself in ISBoxer to assist and do your dps with, and the 'Mouse#' keys are the Mouse Healing keys you set up in this guide.
Actually now that I think of it I don't think you create the "Mouse#" keys until further down in the guide, maybe that's the cause for the confusion? I apologize for that.

[recitative]

The point of this Mouserover Key is to enable the healing keys and disable whatever keys you use to Assist and DPS while mousing over the Party Frame (the Clickbar), and then disable the healing keys and enable the Assist and DPS keys again when you remove the mouse from that area.

So you need to create the Mouseover key as instructed above.
Then create two steps in this key and in Step 1 right-click on Actions, choose Keymap Actions and then either New Key Map State Action or New Mapped Key State Action (depending on if you want to disable an entire keymap or just an individual mapped key).
Then choose your assist and dps keys here and set the state to OFF (if you choose individual mapped keys, you need to do this for all the keys as you can only change the state of one key at a time).
Do the exact same thing for your Heal keys, but set them to ON.
Now in Step 2 repeat the above process but set the Assist & DPS keys to ON and the Heal keys to OFF.

And again, when I say the "Assist & DPS keys" I mean whatever keys you have configured yourself in ISBoxer to assist and do your dps with, and the 'Mouse#' keys are the Mouse Healing keys you set up in this guide.
Actually now that I think of it I don't think you create the "Mouse#" keys until further down in the guide, maybe that's the cause for the confusion? I apologize for that.

How do I make assist and DPS keys? Can you talk me through that.

[Riiker]

This is a good place to start:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/46946-Index-of-Guides-Stuff-you-need-to-know-to-box-SWTOR

[recitative]

Thanks Rikker I actually found your guide and fixed my issue. Only thing I have to ask that there is a delay between recasts? How can I fix this so that recasts are instantanious?

[Riiker]

Thanks Rikker I actually found your guide and fixed my issue. Only thing I have to ask that there is a delay between recasts? How can I fix this so that recasts are instantanious?

Not really sure what you mean. Do you mean because of the timer involved? Also, there are only a few "instant" abilities in swtor

[recitative]

Trying to cast Dark Heal when I click on my click bar in game it sometimes takes a while before it actually casts the spell on my main sometimes it is quick. Anyway to fix this.

[Riiker]

Trying to cast Dark Heal when I click on my click bar in game it sometimes takes a while before it actually casts the spell on my main sometimes it is quick. Anyway to fix this.

Are you talking about not being able to use an ability during the Global Cooldown? The only other times there might be a delay is if you are moving and the ability requires you to be stopped then the ability won't activate unless you activate it again.