Weird follow macro issue

[Ðeceased]

Hi everyone,
I've been multiboxing up a few lvls now but stumbled on a problem i've never come across before.
on my clones I made this macro so that no matter which main i used.. they would follow it

/tar [target=Kaiya,nodead,exists] [target=Ðeceased,nodead,exists] [target=Ælures,nodead,exists]
/follow

nice and simple (i guess i could use player1 or something but I will be going through all my maros to tidy them up eventually)
the problems is, it works for both Kaiya and Ðeceased, but not for Ælures..
Is there a maximum amount of condidtions to one action? or what is it stopping the macro frm working.. I can't see it being the wierd letters cos i have that on Ðeceased too

thx in advance guys and gals

happy hunting

[geoffdavison]

could it be the non-standard character you are using in the third name?

[The IT Monkey]

When are you testing this? Who would be following Ælures? The other two would have to be DEAD for them to follow.

Your macro goes like this

If A is alive and online follow A.
else if B is alive and online follow B.
else if C is alive and online follow C.

The only one that would EVER be following C according to your macro is C itself. C can't follow C.

Edit: If you are doing the PiP thing with BOOBS I would set up the key that you call that character with to also set focus on that character and then include /assist focus in all your macros.

So you have characters A B and C and they are called to the main frame by keys 1 2 and 3 respectivley.

Hitting key 1 brings character A to the main frame and sets the focus of both B and C to A.
Hitting key 2 brings character B to the main frame and sets the focus of both A and C to B.
Hitting key 3 brings character C to the main frame and sets the focus of both A and B to C.

I would make ONE follow macro and it would be /follow focus.

but that is just me.

[Ðeceased]

could it be the non-standard character you are using in the third name?

hmm well i went as far as transferring the letter from my main pc (which has a numpad) to my laptop through word.. logged on and copied he WFT Account letter.. went online to find it.. all of those in both capital and lower case and yet it still doesn't work :S
I might just change it to player1.. what's the exact wording for it?

/tar [target=Party1,nodead,exists]
/follow

?

or is that just an expression that ppl use to say insert ur party leaders name here

[The IT Monkey]

could it be the non-standard character you are using in the third name?

hmm well i went as far as transferring the letter from my main pc (which has a numpad) to my laptop through word.. logged on and copied he WFT Account letter.. went online to find it.. all of those in both capital and lower case and yet it still doesn't work :S
I might just change it to player1.. what's the exact wording for it?

/tar [target=Party1,nodead,exists]
/follow

?

or is that just an expression that ppl use to say insert ur party leaders name here
No, Party1 is the leader... but party2 is not going to be the same on each of your characters

Furthermore... changing it from the name to Party1 does not fix your inherrant problem of Ælures not being able to follow Ælures and everyone else in your party being DEAD.

[Ðeceased]

When are you testing this? Who would be following Ælures? The other two would have to be DEAD for them to follow.

Your macro goes like this

If A is alive and online follow A.
else if B is alive and online follow B.
else if C is alive and online follow C.

The only one that would EVER be following C according to your macro is C itself. C can't follow C.

Edit: If you are doing the PiP thing with BOOBS I would set up the key that you call that character with to also set focus on that character and then include /assist focus in all your macros.

So you have characters A B and C and they are called to the main frame by keys 1 2 and 3 respectivley.

Hitting key 1 brings character A to the main frame and sets the focus of both B and C to A.
Hitting key 2 brings character B to the main frame and sets the focus of both A and C to B.
Hitting key 3 brings character C to the main frame and sets the focus of both A and B to C.

I would make ONE follow macro and it would be /follow focus.

but that is just me.

soz didn't make it entirely clear.. all those characters are on my main account.. the macro is for use on my clones.
as for not wanting to use focus, I want to see if i can free that up so i can use it for stickytargeting in pve and for shocks in pvp to interrupt healers


Edit: apologies for all the typos.. my keyboard on this pc skips keys on occasion :P

[The IT Monkey]

Ah... then yes you can just use /follow Party1

You don't need all those other conditions in there. And you don't need to /target party1 and then /follow. /follow party1 works.

[Ðeceased]

shweet :) thx

quick question tho :P I am guessing if you join, say, AB as a group.. but don't end up in the same group, the macro won't work cos they'll be getting a command to follow different ppl.
Is here anyway to use the party you had before the raid as your base for following?
I ask this cos even when you join a BG you can still chat to you party outside the BG through /p and with the BG through /bg
there must be some way of separating the two right?

Edit: damn this keyboard!

[The IT Monkey]

Good question! And the answer is.... I have no freakin' clue.

I kind of doubt it though.... I think they would end up following whoever was the party leader in your BG party. Which would be way inconvenient even though HILARIOUS.

[Ðeceased]

hehe I can imagine it now :)

hmm.. U just gave me an idea.. for a laugh in a BG.. I'm going to set a focus for each of my clones and run as a personal support healer/dpser for 5 lucky players :)

[maqz]

could it be the non-standard character you are using in the third name?
hmm well i went as far as transferring the letter from my main pc (which has a numpad) to my laptop through word.. logged on and copied he WFT Account letter.. went online to find it.. all of those in both capital and lower case and yet it still doesn't work :S

Try to copy it inside the game instead, from the chat to the macro box. There are so many possible different encodings.

[Ðeceased]

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Try to copy it inside the game instead, from the chat to the macro box. There are so many possible different encodings.[/quote]

oo :) didn't think of that one! lets hope it works :) I'll test it out in a little while when i get back on WoW

[Djarid]

regarding using partyleader, I used to do this right up until my first BG at 12 then quickly switched all my macros to focus.

I have since reverted, using Vyndree's recommendation of using the following conditions on spells


/ cast [target=focustarget, harm][target=party1target, harm] whatever

and for CC


/cast [target=focus, harm][target=focustarget=harm] Polymorph

This allows me to use focus or partyleader for assisting etc.

but If I have a focus that is a mob then I can cast poly on it.

[Ðeceased]

My original intention to use:

/tar [target=Kaiya,nodead,exists] [target=Ðeceased,nodead,exists] [target=Ælures,nodead,exists]
/follow

or

/follow [target=Kaiya,nodead,exists] [target=Ðeceased,nodead,exists] [target=Ælures,nodead,exists]

and other such like macros, was to allow me to completely remove the focus based friendly targeting from my game play.. the reason is that I would like to be able to use focus purely for either outside party support or enemy CC/interrupts, or maintain single target dps while being able to select different targets for spothealing etc.
so whilst party1 has made this possible for me in a PvE environment, in BG pvp i would encounter follow and targeting issues.

I get the feeling I will have to resign myself to using actual player names to manage this, but unfortunately they take up a lot of space, and as I was asking originally, for some reason this one doesn't work with my last character.. (trying to figure out why atm)

is there anyway to shorten the above conditions for finding players? ie

instead of:

/follow [target=Kaiya,nodead,exists] [target=Ðeceased,nodead,exists] [target=Ælures,nodead,exists]


writing

/follow [target=Kaiya;Ðeceased;Ælures,nodead,exists]

[Djarid]

not that I know of

[maqz]

Compressing macros is fun! :D
if something matches [help] or [harm], it will also match [exists]. Since your characters are friendly, use [help].
You don't need [target=name] in a target command, you can put the name after the conditions.
/f = /follow (and /tar = /target, but you already use that).
Target will try to find the best match, so (with a little risk of targetting the wrong guy) you could
remove a few characters from the end (especially with your weird characters). Do you need any conditions on the last character?
/tar [help,nodead]Kaiya;[help,nodead]Ðecea;Ælures
/f

[Ðeceased]

Compressing macros is fun! :D
if something matches [help] or [harm], it will also match [exists]. Since your characters are friendly, use [help].
You don't need [target=name] in a target command, you can put the name after the conditions.
/f = /follow (and /tar = /target, but you already use that).
Target will try to find the best match, so (with a little risk of targetting the wrong guy) you could
remove a few characters from the end (especially with your weird characters). Do you need any conditions on the last character?
/tar [help,nodead]Kaiya;[help,nodead]Ðecea;Ælures
/f

silly me..


so i could potentially have a follow macro like this (stripped down to the bone)

/f [help,nodead]Kaiya;Ðecea;Ælures

quick question tho.. I was under the impression that the nodead and help/exists part went after the the target=.... to make the conditions applicable to the target. does this way of writing it not place the condition of following on your own character? so you only follow if you are [help] or [nodead] and not the target? what i mean by that is .. that the clones follow command would depend on whether they are alive and not if the main is/isn't... am I anywhere close to being right?

just like when you write:

/cast [swimming....] Seal form (i forget the exact name) it depends on your character..
so
/f [help,nodead]Kaiya would depend on whether you are dead or not



in which case you would be able to write

/f Kaiya;Ðecea;Ælures no?

[maqz]

quick question tho.. I was under the impression that the nodead and help/exists part went after the the target=.... to make the conditions applicable to the target. does this way of writing it not place the condition of following on your own character? so you only follow if you are [help] or [nodead] and not the target? what i mean by that is .. that the clones follow command would depend on whether they are alive and not if the main is/isn't... am I anywhere close to being right?

just like when you write:

/cast [swimming....] Seal form (i forget the exact name) it depends on your character..
so
/f [help,nodead]Kaiya would depend on whether you are dead or not



in which case you would be able to write

/f Kaiya;Ðecea;Ælures no?
You got a point. I guess I was wrong, you probably do need the [target=X,...] syntax. :S

Conditions are usually tested on the target. Swimming and mounted and so on are exceptions that are tested on the player. However, I believed that in a /target command, the conditions where tested on the unit you were trying to target (that's why I wrote separate /target and /follow commands.)

I don't know if /follow will work with a shortened name like /target does, you'll have to try that.

Options do not carry over a semicolon. That's great, because sometimes you want to test for different options. :)

How short do you need to make this macro? I suppose you have other commands you need to fit as well, it would be helpful to see the whole thing to see how small it needs to be. Oh, and by the way, did you ever get the last character's name to work?

[Ðeceased]

You got a point. I guess I was wrong, you probably do need the [target=X,...] syntax. :S

Conditions are usually tested on the target. Swimming and mounted and so on are exceptions that are tested on the player. However, I believed that in a /target command, the conditions where tested on the unit you were trying to target (that's why I wrote separate /target and /follow commands.)

I don't know if /follow will work with a shortened name like /target does, you'll have to try that.

Options do not carry over a semicolon. That's great, because sometimes you want to test for different options. :)

How short do you need to make this macro? I suppose you have other commands you need to fit as well, it would be helpful to see the whole thing to see how small it needs to be. Oh, and by the way, did you ever get the last character's name to work?

:) well as short as poss rly. basically I am trying to set my macros up so i can use them in Pve and Pvp for all my mains without having to use focus as a main targeting necessity. this way ensures that when I enter a BG i will also be able to follow etc without risking them all going off in different directions if I were to use Party1.
the only dissadvantage to using this way is the fact that I'll be running out of space in my macro box (255 characters).
The Idea eventually would be to include my clones in to the macro aswell incase my main dies and i need to switch to a clone .. this would mean that I am likely to have around 6-7 names as a requirement :S I will try and abbreviate as much as poss.. I hadn't rly thought of that ^^

"Ð" and all those odd letters would probably already suffice as 99% of the wow population doesn't use them.. I'll be posting the final one once I get it done :)

[Djarid]

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