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Multibocks
11-30-2011, 03:44 PM
I've been unable to try LFR due to work, but how is it turning out? Worth the effort?
Shodokan
11-30-2011, 05:17 PM
friend did 4/4 in an hour
the next 4 bosses will be released in a week for LFR
Multibocks
11-30-2011, 05:49 PM
Well that is much better than I thought it would go!
Cleard - works pretty good and easy almost tank n spank nonstop
Its very easy, got my first shoulder token, actually I won both of the tokens with high roles and then gave one away, cuz they went mad...
Anyways really good news is, the items are tradeable, meaning we can multibox this
Yes we can.. this is so retarded easy, that Multiboxing this is NO PROBLEM at all!
In that case it means we are making 4x rolls pr item and wer way more likely to win, and if of char already has that item he wins, trade it to your clone
This is a real dream for us :)
Toned
11-30-2011, 06:34 PM
Did 4/4 in less than an hour and got my tier gloves on my pally. It's retardedly easy you can basically pull without explaining too much.
Nikita
12-03-2011, 07:35 PM
I did this with my 4 shamans. Got 2 pieces of tier 13 and some really nice boots :) I love it!!
Multibocks
12-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Did anyone give you shit for being 4 players?
jstanthr
12-04-2011, 04:59 AM
When I went they started with the shit talking but then I told them my slaves auto pass on random loot and then they shut up. And afterwards they seen my "nuking" capability I gained 3 more real-I'd friends hopefully it will be a consistent group. I'm hoping they'll be as happy with all 5 instead of 3.
zenga
12-04-2011, 11:36 AM
Did 4/4 in less than an hour and got my tier gloves on my pally. It's retardedly easy you can basically pull without explaining too much.
You must 've been lucky, took me 4 queues to go 4/4 on my main. Took me 3 tries when I boxed shaman/spriest/lock (none had a clue I was boxing btw). The shear amount of complete useless morons is stunning in lfr. There were fights where I did double the dps than what #5 was pulling ... even with gear advantage it's still pretty hilarious.
Seriously, this lfr and the first 7 fights were designed for multiboxers. 1 player who commands 5 toons with a steady macro decrease my chances to have a moron in my raid.
Lyonheart
12-04-2011, 11:55 AM
I tried to play a few days. I have to run random normals because my guys are not geared. I could not stand it! I have not boxed this expansion much. When i know a new MMO is coming out soon, it messes with my brain if I try and play anything else. Ill have to play swtor long enough to know if Its a keeper before I can enjoy any other MMO again.
Mokoi
12-04-2011, 12:17 PM
I did some solo-box LFR.. but I was doing 5 of them at once. on all 5 of my mages (they are in full pvp gear and no gems / enchants, so i was worried about the ability to kill any bosses with all 5 in the group (I since had no problem with the first 2)
It was pretty awesome. I got to play in 5 different raids at once, and just mash my arcane blast button non-stop for 3 windows, and some minor running in a circles for the other 2 (4th boss).
I won a set of shoulders and a head on my first run with them. then I got some bracers and a wand in the second run (a bit more split up)
LFR is.. awesome if you want PvE gear. I don't, but its fun :)
Multibocks
12-04-2011, 01:14 PM
Pretty impressive! Why didn't you try them in just one raid? Also how did you get your hit high enough in pvp gear? I plan on running all my shaman and tank through that once a week. It's amazing how fast you gear up just running the new party instances. My tank went from 352 to 372 in 4 instance runs.
smalltanker
12-04-2011, 08:26 PM
I did 3 of 4 with 4 of my 5 shammies. Sad thing was even boxing I wasn't the bottom of the 17 available DPSers. I need to gear my last toon. I did manage to get tier legs for one toon and a belt. The belt will replace a PVP one and the legs replaced a 312/318 quest green... ugggh. The moving ice wall caught my entire team on the 4th boss. Luckily I can queue again tomorrow after work.
I need to get a two step macro to work. So this week will be spent working on optimizing my set up to be able to do better DPS.
Mokoi
12-04-2011, 10:29 PM
Pretty impressive! Why didn't you try them in just one raid? Also how did you get your hit high enough in pvp gear? I plan on running all my shaman and tank through that once a week. It's amazing how fast you gear up just running the new party instances. My tank went from 352 to 372 in 4 instance runs.
Yeah, I might do some of the new instances on some of my toons, so i can make a 5 man DPS ranged team that can LFR and always roll need on stuff :)
I didn't do my 5 toons at once for the first raid I went on, since I didn't know what to do, or expect. After the first few fights on my first mage, though it was so easy I just queued the others up. My thoughts were at the time, that each mage would get a chance to roll on the gear they needed if it dropped, but having them in the same raid is better odds, I think. I may do that next time. And then you can switch gear around your toons much easier, to either pimp one out, or spread it evenly.
Also, I was not hit capped. My DPS was lame. it's LFR they don't say anything. One of my toons was stuck outside for one fight, and I still didn't hear anything about my DPS... lol and I still got my achieve for it :)
zenga
12-05-2011, 12:51 AM
Boxers could setup a pretty nifty system that gives guaranteed no competition for loot. Currently the rule is that you are only entitled to roll on loot on you first kill. Now this system recquires a full p remade, who each have an alt. It takes about 4 hours and some careful planning.
Run 1: you take a hunter, a priest and a dk main, all the rests are alts. This run only the hunter, dk & priest role on tokens, they are 3 different tokens, so no competition.
Run 2, you take out 3 alts, and bring in 3 new mains for this run ... lets say a shaman, pally & rogue who again share 3 different tokens, only those 3 can roll for tokens and any items they want, rest passes (tthe rest ain't even allowed for loot since they've killed the boss before)..
Run 3, swap 3 alts for 3 new mains, again 3 different tokens, ...
rinse and repeat, takes you about 8-9 runs, and if you have a decent group you can easily clear the first 4 bosses in half an hour.
If you do it with people you don't really know, you can just ask 10k deposit per player. Everyone who stays till the end of the raid gets his gold back, if the player leaves early, his deposit gets divided among the players who sat out the entire raid.
Mokoi
12-05-2011, 03:24 AM
Zenga, sounds good... but why are people going to your raid, if they have to give YOU money, you take loot and all they get back is their money back? What am I missing?
I think i will just join /LFR with my 5 shamans, and then leave the group if there are too many people who can roll on my stuff :) That way I get the loot almost guaranteed, and i can spread it however I want on my toons.
Same for my melee toons, i will just bring 4x DK in, and make sure there aren't too many plate users in the raid :)
zenga
12-05-2011, 03:33 AM
Zenga, sounds good... but why are people going to your raid, if they have to give YOU money, you take loot and all they get back is their money back? What am I missing?
I think i will just join /LFR with my 5 shamans, and then leave the group if there are too many people who can roll on my stuff :) That way I get the loot almost guaranteed, and i can spread it however I want on my toons.
Same for my melee toons, i will just bring 4x DK in, and make sure there aren't too many plate users in the raid :)
It takes 8 runs of 3 people who are entitled for loot (3 different tier tokens can drop). The money (deposit) is just a means to prevent strangers to fuck off as soon as they have their loot, and make em stay till the end (Obviously if you can get boxers to fill whole raid you don't need strangers.). If you think about it, it's less painful than take queuing up alone and get into a retarded group + you know you won't have competition for loot tokens for your 'main'. Worked well tonight and all signed up for next week again for my run.
Multibocks
12-05-2011, 05:24 PM
Huge warning about LFR:
When you win a item the game takes a little bit to send it to your character, sometimes upwards of 20-30 secs. I lost a shoulder token because I won and ported out ten seconds later thinking I had it in my bags :(
Svpernova09
12-05-2011, 06:22 PM
Huge warning about LFR:
When you win a item the game takes a little bit to send it to your character, sometimes upwards of 20-30 secs. I lost a shoulder token because I won and ported out ten seconds later thinking I had it in my bags :(
Put in a ticket, make sure you mention the time the raid was, they'll go back verify and send you the item. Had a similar thing happen in a really bad HoT run where I won and item and wanted to gtfo the instance.
Bollwerk
12-05-2011, 06:57 PM
I had no problem boxing all 4 bosses.
Looking forward to when they open up the other 4 for LFR.
Multibocks
12-05-2011, 08:06 PM
Put in a ticket, make sure you mention the time the raid was, they'll go back verify and send you the item. Had a similar thing happen in a really bad HoT run where I won and item and wanted to gtfo the instance.
Yeah I put in a ticket, not hoping too much. They mentioned in patch notes that GMs would be unable to handle loot disputes, whether this qualifies as a dispute...
Good news was I won 4 things that run. Everyone hated me, but I was trading items around with a resto shaman so it wasnt like I kept it all to myself.
Mokoi
12-06-2011, 03:11 AM
The LFR is pretty crazy, as DPS i have been able to just buy the lvl 377 pvp gear off the AH, and then queue up, and faceroll to epics. Silly, Silly game lol. But, free epics means /whatever for now :D
smalltanker
12-06-2011, 03:29 AM
@mokoi: I basically did the same thing. I crafted 5 x 377 items to get to queue in my quest greens/blues for the new heroics. Grabbed what ever would boost my iLevel and had caster stats (cloth, leather, mail) and after doing the quest lines plus the 3 instances went straight into the LFR. And the sad thing is I still did more damage than some of the dreaded "single-boxers" that are staight up hacking the game... nothing like upgrading 318 green legs to T13 legs... too easy to get gear and be competitive if you pay attention. I will be back in LFR again this weekend with all 5 of my shammies this time as elementals.
I might also try a group of 2 resto shammies in some LFR. Figure do a /focus cast@focus macro for ES, riptide, HW and then CH for each tank... should be fun.
Mokoi
12-06-2011, 04:33 AM
actually I was thinking that, as well. but I was thinking 2x resto druids, and 2x shaman for the tank heals, PLUS the AOE heals on rotations, and then spot heals on idiots who need it. Basically, the other two healers would be in charge of raid heals, while you look after the tanks, and use your AOE whenever it's available. Especially in LFR, with the appropriate gear, you control better the outcome of the whole raid..
BUT that being said.. it's a LOT easier to just go boomkins and ele and DPS / faceroll to epics, as well. BUT it takes longer to find a raid, but that's why they invented weights, so i can justify my time away from my computer to work out.
All in all, LFR is fun, and when all my toons have the gear to join, you just have to do it once per team (MAYBE one night a week) and then the rest for PvP - Fun and you are done :)
Mercurio
12-06-2011, 09:28 AM
I got 26 of my toons through LFR the first week without buying any PvP gear to increase their item level. It is great fun.
Personally, I made sure my guys were properly gemmed/enchanted/hit capped before queueing up. My DPS was definitely competitive, typically having the 6th, 9th, 11th, 12th highest DPS if I took four toons. Not uber, but far from the worst.
I'd feel a bit bad about having the 18th highest DPS in a raid, getting completely carried, and sucking up loot. Seems to add to all the "moron-ity" that we all complain about. I know that I don't like it when I see guys doing 10K or less DPS. I suppose that if the raids aren't wiping due to low DPS, it might be OK to just buy 377 PvP gear and bring in some scrub toons with crap gear. I just hate to add to the "boxers suck" mentality that many people have. Then again, I tend to want to be an ambassador for good for our little community :)
Anyway, doing these LFRs with guildies is absolutely fabulous. It is a lot of fun to be able to see the raid content and raid as a guild. It is an easy way to get a lot of us geared up so we can consider doing "real" raid content togehter. Great stepping stone and one of the best things Blizzard has ever done. Kudos Blizz!
zenga
12-06-2011, 11:51 AM
Apologies for my first post (that got removed apparently), which turned out to be an exploit (got fixed meanwhile). Given the massive scale I didn't even think it being an exploit (as in I didn't even realize it). Got an 8 day ban for that, which is well deserved in the end. Lucky me I felt it coming and account transferred the particular toon to one I no longer use, so my main isn't affected (I progress raid on 2 different toons with 2 different guilds). Hope no one else was so stupid to try it out and got a ban. If so, sincere apology!
Kekkerer
12-06-2011, 01:28 PM
To be honest I don't think that bans were warranted in this situation, they should just have removed the gear.
Quiding
12-06-2011, 02:08 PM
Just did the 4 bosses on my 4 DKs in full PvP gear and was top 3-10ish on DPS on all bosses, this is to easy !! :)
Klesh
12-06-2011, 02:12 PM
To be honest I don't think that bans were warranted in this situation, they should just have removed the gear.
Really?
WoW Terms of Use:
C. Rules Related to Game Play. Game play is what World of Warcraft is all about, and Blizzard strictly enforces the rules that govern game play. Blizzard considers most conduct to be part of the Game, and not harassment, so player-killing the enemies of your race and/or alliance, including gravestone and/or corpse camping, is considered a part of the Game. Because the Game is a "player vs. player" game, you should always remember to protect yourself in areas where the members of hostile races can attack you, rather than contacting Blizzard's in-game customer service representatives for help when you have been killed by an enemy of your race. Nonetheless, certain acts go beyond what is "fair" and are considered serious violations of these Terms of Use. Those acts include, but are not necessarily limited to, the following:
(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;
So it's a well deserved suspension for those exploiting a bug.
Multibocks
12-06-2011, 02:42 PM
I got 26 of my toons through LFR the first week without buying any PvP gear to increase their item level. It is great fun.
Personally, I made sure my guys were properly gemmed/enchanted/hit capped before queueing up. My DPS was definitely competitive, typically having the 6th, 9th, 11th, 12th highest DPS if I took four toons. Not uber, but far from the worst.
I'd feel a bit bad about having the 18th highest DPS in a raid, getting completely carried, and sucking up loot. Seems to add to all the "moron-ity" that we all complain about. I know that I don't like it when I see guys doing 10K or less DPS. I suppose that if the raids aren't wiping due to low DPS, it might be OK to just buy 377 PvP gear and bring in some scrub toons with crap gear. I just hate to add to the "boxers suck" mentality that many people have. Then again, I tend to want to be an ambassador for good for our little community :)
Anyway, doing these LFRs with guildies is absolutely fabulous. It is a lot of fun to be able to see the raid content and raid as a guild. It is an easy way to get a lot of us geared up so we can consider doing "real" raid content togehter. Great stepping stone and one of the best things Blizzard has ever done. Kudos Blizz!
How many are you queueing together? 5? all 10?
olibri1
12-06-2011, 05:25 PM
I had no problem boxing all 4 bosses.
Looking forward to when they open up the other 4 for LFR.
Boss 5 is a lot harder. Anyone got a macro for Heroic Will?
Then again, the LFR version might dumb it down a lot. We'll see.
Mercurio
12-06-2011, 06:22 PM
How many are you queueing together? 5? all 10?
First time through, I did one DPS just to check it out. Then one tank. Then one healer. After that, did a tank and a DPS, then 3 DPS a few times, then four DPS a few times.
I really don't see an issue doing at least four DPS at once, perhaps more. I'm not sure I would be a good healer if I was running that many toons, so probably won't do that.
Again, being an an overall positive or at worst neutral for the LFR is my goal - I'd rather not get carried if I can help it.
dancook
12-06-2011, 07:31 PM
I took two mages into LFR today came 1st and 3rd in raid damage on the end boss:)
Though if you take multiple then you're going to lock out multiple simultaneously... is it worth it?
Multibocks
12-07-2011, 12:36 AM
yes it is, because then you can win something that the other already has and trade it to him.
Mercurio
12-07-2011, 01:28 AM
I did LFR a few times with Fishbeak today and we had an idea. With the size of our guild on KJ Alliance, we could easily fill the 16 DPS slots on a raid.
We would just bring a clothie, boomkin, shammy/hunter, and plate DPS that hadn't done LFR before and cover all the other DPS spots with toons who had already run it and couldn't roll. That way when DPS drops occur, there would be no competition. Heck, boxing 8 DPS is the exact same level of effort as "boxing" one for me and we'd guarantee guildies would get DPS drops if we ran this way. Same for tank/heal loot of course, but that might require more effort.
Another nice thing is that doing it that way would be a great benefit for all the other random healers and tanks that ran with us since there would be so few people rolling on tier pieces. Our DPS seem to be in the middle of the pack on the runs I've been on anyway, so it isn't like we'd be hurting the raid with low deeps. Seems like a win for everyone involved.
dancook
12-07-2011, 07:14 AM
yes it is, because then you can win something that the other already has and trade it to him.
Good call :) thanks!
I will be five boxing my mages in there once I get them all up.
I was getting VP cap for a third mage last night - took me 2 hours! 3-4 instances I joined at last boss :) bonus.
Toned
12-07-2011, 06:29 PM
Boss 5 is a lot harder. Anyone got a macro for Heroic Will?
Then again, the LFR version might dumb it down a lot. We'll see.
/Click ExtraActionButton1
I took two mages into LFR today came 1st and 3rd in raid damage on the end bosshttp://www.dual-boxing.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Though if you take multiple then you're going to lock out multiple simultaneously... is it worth it?
Having 4 rolls on tokens = profit, I got 2 piece on one of my DKs... Working on getting my last shamans iLvl high enough to get into raid finder (shamans have been benched since season 9).
Don't hate me Fenril... Forgot to multi-quote.
Ran LFR with 4 dks and got kicked out of 2 groups because people didnt like multiboxing. My dps on all my guys was in the top 10 too
Toned
12-07-2011, 06:35 PM
Ran LFR with 4 dks and got kicked out of 2 groups because people didnt like multiboxing. My dps on all my guys was in the top 10 too
I had this happen in the first group I went into last night. Some effing hunter pet agro'd the boss when 1/2 the raid was low health/mana from trash. Then 1/2 the retards didn't get on the right color'd add. It was obviously a wipe, so I said "just stop and wipe it I'll mass res I have a Brez ready to use on one of my DKs". Long story short they all vote kicked me for "not pulling my weight". Got into a fresh run after that no issues was in top 10 dps on all 4 toons every boss kill (. I wasn't even using obliterate just FS > HB > PS, and full pvp gear.
Multibocks
12-07-2011, 08:52 PM
ya that worries me... I dont want to waste my time. Wish I hadn't named my characters like I did since its obvious from the names that I box.
Oh one other thing, its best not to talk at all in LFR. People dont notice the ones who are silent. I was yelling at tanks that they need to taunt when other has 3 stacks and everyone jumped on me for being "rude." I'm sorry next time I'll ask them in whispers to kindly taunt the boss....wasnt like I was swearing at them.
zenga
12-07-2011, 11:36 PM
Here is a post from a dude (http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/208604/i-will-never-go-back-to-normal-raiding-again) that says it all ... they guy never ran a raid in cataclysm and is now 8/8 through the raid finder. The truth is that all the success of these retards is centred around good players carrying their sorry asses. And the only reason these good players have to queue up is completing their set bonus. Once that's over (couple of weeks), there is zero reason for them to queue up any more for the LFR. The retardness of some people is unbelievable ... you explain what target they can't kill whatsoever, that the only thing they should do is nuke skull and stand on the marked player, and move with him, and yet they still manage to fail.
I've ran it multiple times now, and almost every time the top 5 dps did 50% of the damage (I had fights where #2 was doing half of my damage), yet the nabs are still entitled to roll on the same gear as you. And that is quite perverse in this whole setup. But it's a problem that will solve itself: either they pick up how fights work or they just mass murder eachother vocally as soon as the 'boosters' are gone.
Ughmahedhurtz
12-07-2011, 11:43 PM
But it's a problem that will solve itself: either they pick up how fights work or they just mass murder eachother vocally as soon as the 'boosters' are gone.
Or nobody will care and life will continue as usual. Also, LFR alt runs...
zenga
12-07-2011, 11:47 PM
That's what i meant actually
If you don't like it, don't use it ;-)
zenga
12-08-2011, 01:13 AM
If you don't like it, don't use it ;-)
It's not like I have a choice ... the day I stepped into 4.3 I lost 7k single target dps due to various nerfs and changes. Need the 2p T13 to regain some of that and be competitive. Since acquiring set pieces is completely random & rng, and I haven't seen a single shaman/hunter/warrior token drop in like 4 full clears (including lfr) , so I have little choice not to run it. Besides it's the main motivation behind making the tier items drop only and no longer obtainable through points, so that the seasoned raiders would run LFD.
And I didn't say I don't like the LFD, I love the concept in general, I just raged a bit on that post from that guy.
Kekkerer
12-08-2011, 06:46 AM
Here is a post from a dude (http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/208604/i-will-never-go-back-to-normal-raiding-again) that says it all ...
Well I do agree with him but from a different perspective. I was someone who was in a pretty good raiding guild, I got world 50th pre nerf Muru and raided 5 days a week with double raid on Sundays and I can't stress enough how sick and tired I am from having to schedule my life around a leisure activity. Now and then I get carried in alt runs to so that I'm able to see the content but that's not exactly fun, LFR on the other hand is a great tool for me to mess around in with my multiboxed characters and the greatest thing about it is exactly what he said: "No more obligations. No more schedules. No more cares! I AM FREE! From here on out, I can kill EVERYTHING and owe NOTHING TO ANYONE! HOORAY!".
Multibocks
12-08-2011, 10:13 AM
Be ready for banging your head on wall. I can't tell you how many times we had to run spine on LFR before beating it... People cant stack for the dragon rolls I guess.
Mercurio
12-08-2011, 10:58 AM
Last night was amazing fun. Four of us from Legion of Boom queued up as 13 of the 16 DPS in LFR. We ended up with good rolls and came out of there with NINE tier pieces for our guys. With that many toons, we could trade things around to ensure people were getting two piece bonuses or that the toon with the biggest upgrade got the drop. A couple of us ran some toons that had already done it, so it was good for everyone as there was less competition. We blew through every boss and on the slime guy we just talked in Skype about which color we wanted to kill and did it ourselves instead of paying attention to what the raid leader was spamming.
Raid Leader (RL): "GREEN"
RL: "GREEN"
RL: "GREEN!!!!"
RL "I said GREEN!!"
(blue slime goes down)
Random person: "OVERRULED!"
Lots of "LOL!"
It was hilarious, but everyone was very happy b/c we were one-shotting everything (not that that is a huge accomplishment, but it certainly doesn't happen on every LFR run due to morons). The raid actually did wipe once on the last boss because a few healers got hit by the ice waves and the others couldn't keep the tank up after the first cycle, but that had nothing to do with the DPS. Besides that wipe, I don't think any of our toons died even once. :)
What we were postulating last night is that tanks and healers are fairly used to taking responsibility and doing the right thing b/c if they don't, people yell at them and wipes occur. Not so for DPS, so many of them don't play very well. On the last boss, 3 of our DPS died in the first ice cycle. Yep, the three that weren't played by Legion of Boom. It was hilarious. Anyway, we figure if we just keep taking the majority of the DPS spots, the moronity of the randoms is extremely reduced by taking up the "moron-attracting" DPS spots.
No one in the raid said anything about us boxing even though we were all running around together standing on top of each other - I suppose b/c things were going so smoothly. That LFR had the most unbelievable focus fire I've ever seen in an LFR, even though no targets were marked. ;)
I think Pinot is going to post some fraps of it. We were all laughing and having a great time. It was the most fun we've had in a while.
The nicest thing is b/c we are boxers and have plenty of toons, we can do it and continue to get loot for many nights to come.
Toned
12-08-2011, 12:28 PM
Here is a post from a dude (http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/208604/i-will-never-go-back-to-normal-raiding-again) that says it all ... they guy never ran a raid in cataclysm and is now 8/8 through the raid finder. The truth is that all the success of these retards is centred around good players carrying their sorry asses. And the only reason these good players have to queue up is completing their set bonus. Once that's over (couple of weeks), there is zero reason for them to queue up any more for the LFR. The retardness of some people is unbelievable ... you explain what target they can't kill whatsoever, that the only thing they should do is nuke skull and stand on the marked player, and move with him, and yet they still manage to fail.
I've ran it multiple times now, and almost every time the top 5 dps did 50% of the damage (I had fights where #2 was doing half of my damage), yet the nabs are still entitled to roll on the same gear as you. And that is quite perverse in this whole setup. But it's a problem that will solve itself: either they pick up how fights work or they just mass murder eachother vocally as soon as the 'boosters' are gone.
Last night on my rogue on the warlord fight I broke 50k dps... 2nd place guy was 25k, a rogue that did 23k dps won a belt and token, and the other token went to a druid who was BELOW THE TANKS DPS...
All I said was "Glad I'm carrying you guys so you can get loot, and I get screwed" - They vote kicked me lol.
zenga
12-08-2011, 12:34 PM
What we were postulating last night is that tanks and healers are fairly used to taking responsibility and doing the right thing b/c if they don't, people yell at them and wipes occur. Not so for DPS, so many of them don't play very well. On the last boss, 3 of our DPS died in the first ice cycle. Yep, the three that weren't played by Legion of Boom. It was hilarious. Anyway, we figure if we just keep taking the majority of the DPS spots, the moronity of the randoms is extremely reduced by taking up the "moron-attracting" DPS spots.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. I personally would love to tank or heal for a bunch of boxers that know what they are doing. It has so many advantages and you even make agreements with tanks/healers for multiple runs and loot distribution, etc.
But still it remains hard to figure out what happens in the brain of the somepeople ... I just had this gem of a dk tank an hour ago in an ultraxion lfr, We wiped due to tank taunt fail. Mass rezz and then this happens in raid chat ...
http://i39.tinypic.com/bfjfyb.jpg
I truly believe that dk was genuinely trying to learn/get better by joining the LFR, kudos to him. I just can't grasp what happens in these people their brain, when they believe it's ok to join a raid without having a clue about tactics as one of the most important roles. When they fail and cause a wipe it's the others who didn't explain ... it didn't pop up in his mind that he could 've asked. I'm still stunned by his reasoning :P
drevil
12-08-2011, 12:44 PM
i really glad i played classic .. that was the good times.. now its only a joke :-)
Multibocks
12-08-2011, 08:52 PM
Last night on my rogue on the warlord fight I broke 50k dps... 2nd place guy was 25k, a rogue that did 23k dps won a belt and token, and the other token went to a druid who was BELOW THE TANKS DPS...
All I said was "Glad I'm carrying you guys so you can get loot, and I get screwed" - They vote kicked me lol.
Yeah we had a rogue that did 60k dps on DW! Pretty crazy, he pretty much carried the raid and I said thank you to him :D
Mercurio
12-08-2011, 10:22 PM
Last night was amazing fun. Four of us from Legion of Boom queued up as 13 of the 16 DPS in LFR.
We were all laughing and having a great time. It was the most fun we've had in a while.
i really glad i played classic .. that was the good times.. now its only a joke :-)
I believe I'm seeing a difference of opinion on this matter :p
Toned
12-11-2011, 07:07 PM
This patch is really good if you still multi-box.
I've cleared the 3 new heroics on my dk and shaman teams,as well as killed all 8 bosses in raid finder. It's pretty fun, makes me want to go 4 box firelands for the lols.
Overall I think this is one of the best patches they've released in a really long time.
dancook
12-14-2011, 06:53 PM
I just got kicked out of a LFR :( downed the ooze boss.. and some guy noticed there were three mages with the 'same' name. Then someone said I was doing <15k dps.... when actually it was more like 25k dps, I peak around 30k
obviously the rest of the sheep just went with it and kicked me
pinotnoir
12-14-2011, 07:18 PM
I just got kicked out of a LFR :( downed the ooze boss.. and some guy noticed there were three mages with the 'same' name. Then someone said I was doing <15k dps.... when actually it was more like 25k dps, I peak around 30k
obviously the rest of the sheep just went with it and kicked me
I feel your pain. It happened to me once. I try to run LFR with guild members so we have enough in there to kick anyone out if they start shit. This is the best patch of Wow. It makes me not even want to play SWTOR.
valkry
12-14-2011, 07:37 PM
I did all the bosses as a dps first then went on my pally to tank them. Fights aren't hard and I got luck with good groups. can not WAIT til I'm back home so I can take all my shammies in. Will do 2 seperate groups of 4 first week then all 8 the next week I think. I'm just grinding out full 378 gear sets for them 1 by 1 in the heroics to prep myself so I don't anchor the raid :P
Mercurio
12-14-2011, 08:46 PM
I'm running eight of my guys at once in LFR now. I run four guys who can roll on loot and four others that roll on the same type of tokens. This is great for everyone because I know what I'm doing and do decent DPS and there is less competition for everyone rolling on the loot. I've found that if I'm eight casters, there isn't much competition for caster loot that drops.
Ran it five times in a row with this set up, rotating through four new toons that could roll on loot each time. Lots of fun and no one has ever noticed me boxing or said anything.
I like being one third of each raid I run :D
TheShox
12-14-2011, 09:23 PM
I'm really liking this patch as well. I haven't played a huge amount. I played Rift all day Sunday for some reason after not playing it since April. Only a level 25 mage.
I've killed all 8 bosses on 5 toons. Last week I multiboxed 4 toons (1 mage, 3 shaman) in Fall of Deathwing Wing and no one gave me crap about it. All 4 toons were in the top 8 dps. Now, when I play on the mage and I can concentrate on the rotation, the dps is much better. On Gunship v2, someone noticed the shamans and said, "Winning to the three shaman team", but really had 4 toons. I got zero loot with those toons on that run. Stupid RNG.
There are some pretty dumb people that queue that have a super hard time following directions. Its pretty simple. Like Zenga, I can't believe what goes on the brains of some of these people. Before I even joined the LFR are any toon, I watched videos of all the fights so I knew WTF I was supposed to do. But I do agree with linked post from the wow forums. I no longer need to schedule my life around raiding. This is the first expansion that I have not raided at all. Now. The LFR gives me that. Yes, some of the players piss me off, but atleast I can raid a little and maybe get some loot. I trialed for the current guild that I am in (they were US 15th Heroic LK). I failed, but they allowed me to stay in as a casual player.
The heroics are fun and are very doable. The only one I can't do is Echo of Baine.. Screw him. Anyone have a workable tactic? When a guy gets knocked into the lava, you have to manually run him back and by that time, he is jumping on one of the islands, so lots of damage going out. If you have a tactic, post in the End Time Heroics thread!
I haven't spent anytime trying to make money with the AH this patch. Actually spending too much for all the new enchants and gems.
Mercurio
12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
I noticed for Baine that if you step off the islands right before he does his jump, he lands in the lava and doesn't destroy an island. Might be the start to a strategy for doing him.
Multibocks
12-15-2011, 02:05 PM
Ran my three shaman through and not a person noticed. I won three tokens and a trinket, so sweet since one of my shaman now has four piece bonus now.
Toned
12-15-2011, 02:32 PM
Baine - was the hardest boss of all the new 5man bosses.
It took me 10+ attempts to get him down. With 4sham + Pal.
Make sure you dispell your tank if baine has touched the lava.
USE THE TOTEM THROW > This is key < You can use it asap for more dmg, or try to time it to stop the island break.
Plan ahead, position Baine and your toons with your next island in mind. This way you spend minimal time in the lava. > Save Tank cooldowns for after the first island break.
I haven't tried the tactic of jumping in the lava to avoid the break... I'll test this next time I get Baine.
Multibocks
12-15-2011, 02:40 PM
Use the totem throw??
Toned
12-15-2011, 09:03 PM
Use the totem throw??
When he throws the totem at one of your guys to knock him back. It leaves a clickable Totem on the ground. Pick it up and use the target circle to hit Baine with it. This stuns him and increases all dmg received.
Multibocks
12-15-2011, 11:56 PM
Haha, I didn't even notice.
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