Crashing with Multiboxing.

[Goliith]

I recently came into having the resources I needed to be able to Multibox WoW without feeling guilty about doing so. I spent a few hours researching scripts for AHK and learned how it worked, a few hours later and I had a functioning script that did everything I needed it to do.

Fast Forward a little while and I have 5 accounts, and am excited as hell to finally getting to multibox (Having been 'old schooling' it by Dual Boxing with /follow and playing both characters by hand for years now)

But wait! A giant ass bear has spawned and is blocking my way to glorious solo experiences.

Running all 5 accounts at once at first was no trouble, started them all up and was just controlling one, walking it to the spawn location of the other bots (It having been a Night elf, the other 4 Draenei) All was good! But then out of no where, right after all 5 characters met up, my computer bogged down to almost 0 activity, my Processor sky rocketed to 100% use and everything stopped responding. Needless to say, a restart followed Shortly thereafter.

Fast forward again and I've lowered all the video settings to absolute minimal, and start all 5 WoWs up again.

System failure again.

All following attempts to run 5 accounts at one time end in system lock up.

Getting very frustrated, I decided to try and just run 4 accounts, as before, everything was fine and dandy, this system would go to shit the moment the 5th account logged in.

about 10-15minutes of getting macros set up and UI's organized and I get to kill a few mobs! System crash.

I've been trolling and searching the forums here to try and find some help on the issue, but all attempts failed so I decided to make my own post, in what is very possibly the wrong section.

My PC should be able to run 5 copies of WoW on minimal settings without any hint of a problem, Hell I get 900FPS with only 1 copy running on lowest settings.

PC Specs:
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair IV Formula
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T (6-Cores)@4.15Ghz(3.2ghz Stock)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80 WaterCooler
RAM: 16Gb DDR3 Corsair 6-6-6-18
Graphics: Geforce 480 GTX @780/1560/2000 (700/1400/1848 Stock)
PSU: GameXtreme 700w
OS: Windows 7 64Bit

Hopefully someone out here has an idea as to what the issue is...game time is ticking away D:

PS: The game is at 1920x1080, though running it at...1366x768(I think that's it) didn't change performance one way or the other.

[F9thRet]

I know this sounds like a rookie suggestion, But are the Video Drivers upgraded? Also, what kind of HD are you running off of? ie. 5400 , 7200, 10k RPM or SSD. The last thing may be Internet speed, but I doubt that.

Sorry man, I can't be much more help, I've got a huge headache right now, and just can't focus on much. Damn Flu is coming on I just know it.

Stephen

[Goliith]

No worries man, your health comes before anyone else's problems for sure.

Yes, it's the newest Video Drivers,

It's a 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive.

Internet was fine, Only about 75Ms latency when 4 were running.

I'm really lost at to what could be the problem, and it's driving me insane D:

I'm going to try running 4 again with every Diagnostic/Monitoring tool I have running on the second monitor, see if I can't see any thing slowly rising before it crashes


Sad face :( Loaded up the 4 clients, logged them in. 3 were dead so I left the 4th on the character select screen while I got the three back to their corpses. System locked up before I could get them in a group and alive :(.

Resource Monitor Showed the processor was only at about 24% load when my monitors locked up, Memory was around 10Gb free, HDDs were good, Graphics card was only at about 77°C with fan speed at 40% There's really no reason I can see why this should be happening, 3/4 of the clients of WoW were using less processor power than MSI Afterburner!

PS It's not some kind of stability issue to those who might guess that, I can play games like Skyrim and Battlefield 3 on Max settings all day and never crash, can run Prime 95 for like 9 hours.

[Cptan]

Is the 5th, or rather account number 5 causing problem? or the problem occurs whenever 5 wow accounts running?

[Goliith]

At first it appeared to be when the 5th copy of WoW logged in, but just earlier I went to test again, but my system crashed before I even got around to getting the 5th copy in the world (It was however, sitting on the Character select menu) (Also thank you to the unnamed mod who moved this to the correct location, my apologies on my rushed decision of topic location.)

[confusedtx5]

Tried resetting your BIOS to defaults and booting wow?
Specs are fine (similar to mine). the 480s tend to run too hot (dodgy fan speed controller imo), but at 77*C that's obviously no the issue here.
Can you open all 5 wow windows without using AHK? I don't know how AHK works, but its worth ruling out the possibility.
I've experienced ridiculously low fps when my Graphics ram maxes out, but again, it's never crashed me.

[Goliith]

I could try resetting my BIOS I suppose, I'll have to do that tomorrow though.

Also, the game crashes with or without AHK running but yea, I use MSI to manually override the 480s fan when I'm gaming, at 100% fan speed it just about never goes above 88°C, though if left on default I've had it hit 105°C before.

Defaulting the BIOS is my only choice I guess, or at the very least scaling back the CPU Overclock to something ridiculously stable like 3.75ghz

Once the new 7970s come out I'll likely be jumping ship to AMD for Eyefinity.

[Tin]

download GPU-Z and tjek your memory and GPU load - it can tell your if you can run more than 4 client

[Goliith]

What is this Tjek you spoke of? Or was that a misspelling? GPU-Z is pretty obvious, but my GPU can definitely run more than 4 WoW clients on low, also it's not the memory either, I have 9Gb of RAM free with 4 clients up, and I regularly make use of 14GB+ of RAM, so the sticks aren't fried either. Thank you for the advice though.

I just recently set my CPU much further on it's Overclock,(3.8Ghz, instead of the 4.15ghz I had it at) and it was running 4 accounts for about 5 minutes, then they all DCed and I couldn't reconnect >.> Now I'm trying to get them to log on again to try out 5 clients. Though the 4 were having a lot of little 'stutters' despite getting 50 FPS on the main window.

[Bollwerk]

The way I would approach the problem is starting out by running 1 wow for 10+ minutes, then 2 for 10+ minutes, etc... until you figure out which number of wows is the breaking point.
Also, if anything is overclocked at all, reset everything to stock speeds, just to rule it out.

[johny_mnemonic]

do you use 1 or 2 monitor setup? also, if your system crash, make sure to run it without OC (CPU/GPU). I bet, that your problem would be with your system overheating. Download CPUID HWmonitor and check all the temperatures and fan rpm, you can also view the state of your HDD.

[Goliith]

I suppose I will have to try that. I set my Processor speed down to a VERY stable setting, but it still crashed after about 10 minutes with 4 accounts up, I dont want to reset my BIOS, but I guess it's my only option.

[Unded]

How old is the power supply?The older they get the less power they put out. From what I could find it has 4 rails for power out put-you should get get a power supply with a single rail-there is a formula somewhere(can't find it right now) for how much "power loss" there is with multiple power output rails.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I see you did list the timings on your RAM but just in case, go look up your memory manufacturer's recommended timings and make absolutely sure your BIOS settings match what they recommend. Once you have that set up, go get Prime95 (http://mersenne.org/freesoft/default.php) and run the torture test overnight. If it runs all night with no errors, then it is likely not a RAM or base system hardware failure, which would tend to point to the graphics drivers or hardware as the failure point.

[Goliith]

So it's been a little while (Thanksgiving will do that :O) But I've done some more tests.

BIOS are now completely default, RAM is at Manufactures settings, all settings Default.

PC is 100% stable.

WoW still makes it lock up after only 1-2 minutes of only THREE accounts logged in now.

Someone mentioned my power supply. it's about 2 years old. I doubt that it is the problem as I can play MUCH more power hungry games like Battlefield 3, or Skyrim on Max settings(And then some for Skyrim) and they can run all day without a hiccup.

I'm beginning to lose my mind over this, I've run 3 accounts of WoW on my PC on High settings all day back in WOTLK, and I've had 5 Accounts logged in for about 15 minutes before as well (Friends account's just dicking around)

I just....I have no idea what can be the cause anymore, Defaulted BIOS, no indications of Hardware at fault, newest drivers...Nothing ever shows there is any indication of a problem until WHAM whole computer locks down.

[moosejaw]

A few days late here. Maybe try the free trial of isboxer and see if it still crashes. There may be something in your AHK config that is causing the crash.

Alternately, the first thing I do when I have an unexplained wow crash is delete the cache.

[Moorea]

I'm having problems with 1 wow window crashing (as opposed to system lockup) but I made the mistake of changing 3 things at the same time : new graphic card, new ssd, new graphic driver (the latest on nvidia's site as of last week) and it was wow 4.3 patch day... that's with isboxer... I'm kinda wondering if the graphic card memory maybe has some issue - is there some program that would test the gpu memory's ?
(the card has 2gb and I suspect it works fine with games like batman but many wow take more texture etc... memory and maybe trigger something ?)

that or a bug in nvidia's driver or wow 4.3 - but if that was that there would be more reports from people here ?