im clueless, is this ok?

[tundra622]

The deal is im clueless about computors. im making the transition from 2 to 5 boxing WoW accounts and from what i can see this seems to be a good deal.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-INTEL-Core-i7-2600-3-40GHZ-DESKTOP-PC-8GB-Ram-/110683641339?pt=AU_comp_dekstop&hash=item19c54255fb

any feedback would be great!

i should probebly add some more info.
I am planning on playing on 1 monitor which i have (please mention if you think i should get more)
as for how much im willing to spend... i don't realy know not more than $1500 i hope.

[MiRai]

The deal is im clueless about computors. im making the transition from 2 to 5 boxing WoW accounts and from what i can see this seems to be a good deal.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-INTEL-Core-i7-2600-3-40GHZ-DESKTOP-PC-8GB-Ram-/110683641339?pt=AU_comp_dekstop&hash=item19c54255fb

any feedback would be great!
First off, there's no video card in that system, just integrated graphics, which you won't successfully be 5
boxing on regardless if the IG is Sandy Bridge or not.

Second, the RAM and PSU brand names are completely unknown to me and after a quick Google search there
doesn't seem to be much information on either of them except for the fact that A-Power PSUs are garbage.
Here's (http://www.amazon.com/-Power-850W-4-pin-SATA-PCI-Express/dp/B001LK195S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312098156&sr=8-1) an 850W A-Power PSU for $41. I personally wouldn't touch an 850W PSU that cost $41 with anyone's
PC that I didn't want to play a mean and dirty prank on.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Go to my website and read the post:

http://samdeathwalker.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282

It will get you on the right track.

Case, CPU cooler and Powersupply are still ok. As is getting 4G ram sticks even if you get 8 or 12G total. If you get 12G or more you might not need a SSD, although many will resonably argue otherwise.

Motherboard might be dated, and a i7 2600K is the rage now days. The $119 video card in my other post on this forum is a real steal.

Just see what MB's others use with the i7 2600K (get a name brand like gigabyte or asus or intel) and get the rest of the stuffs I suggest, you will still be well under 1500us.


Don't touch that prebuilt with cost cutting all over the place. Just put something together yourself or get yur neighborhood geek to do it for you.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Never heard of the motherboard in that system (never even heard of that brand). Avoid like the plague.

[MiRai]

Never heard of the motherboard in that system (never even heard of that brand). Avoid like the plague.
Wow I (for some reason) just assumed it was an Intel board and didn't even look it up.


J&W
The possible of impossible
http://www.jwele.com/motherboard_detail.php?1029


I would definitely avoid this pre-built computer.

[Knytestorme]

Since OP is from australia I checked out our version of Newegg/Tiger/etc to make sure I was correct and I was as they list a J&W motherboard so I wouldn't discount it out of hand

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=17185

I haven't checked OP's link but people need to remember that OP is from australia so advice like Sam's, while well meaning, can be a little less than useful since we have limited hardware options and we still get screwed on prices even though $Aus > $US now

[Knytestorme]

I just checked pccasegear.com.au and put together a similar system using better quality parts and adding a video card in that I know will work for boxing. It's more expensive but you could save a little by going with the 2500k rather than 2600k or going down levels in videocards but if I were putting together a small system purely for boxing I don't think there is anything I would change in this setup apart from a Z68 mobo rather than the H61

BitFenix Survivor Core Black Gaming Case (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17936)- $89
Intel Core i7 2600K (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16416) - $315
Western Digital Green 2TB WD20EARX (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17282) - $85
Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15517) - $75
Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17348) - $25
ASRock H61M-VS Motherboard B3 (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16898) - $59
Corsair CX-600 V2 Power Supply (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17374) - $99
Sapphire Radeon HD6950 2GB Dirt3 Edition (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17637) - $279
BitFenix Spectre 120mm Black Tinted White LED Fan (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17462) x 3 - $28.50

Total - $1054.50

[EDIT]
If you remove the 6950 and add

Antec KUHLER H2O 620 CPU Cooler (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16986) - $99
Gainward GeForce GTX 580 3GB Phantom (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17016) - $609[/url]

you will be at $1483.50 but I'd ignore the Kuhler (unless you are looking at overclocking) and change the mobo to

Gigabyte GA-HA65M-UD3H-B3 Motherboard (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=17186) - $105

which is only $50 more than the ASRock and will allow you to expand to 16Gb in future if you wish

[Sam DeathWalker]

They have Thermaltake cases, in fact this one might even be better then the shark, don't even have to open the case to add a HDD lol.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_1081&products_id=15189

Not the cooler I suggest but about as good:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_845&products_id=17015

They have the MB I suggest:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16815

The power supply I suggest is available world wide.


Your links don't work Knytestorme but ok the hdd drive and cpu and ram we agree on. Your video card is better but my case, cooler and mb and ps are better.

He is still under $1500 if he upgrades his case, cooler and mb with my suggestions and upgrades his video card to your suggestion.

[Knytestorme]

They have Thermaltake cases, in fact this one might even be better then the shark, don't even have to open the case to add a HDD lol.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_1081&products_id=15189

Not the cooler I suggest but about as good:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_845&products_id=17015

They have the MB I suggest:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16815

The power supply I suggest is available world wide.

Which is all cool Sam, but if OP is looking at an ebay machine for $599 I think suggesting a mobo that's almost 50% of that price is not really going to help them tbh, or is adding extras like a $90 fan when the stock fan should make do (and tbh if I was going to add cooling to it I'd go with something like the 620 Kuhler for $95).

Having seen the edit the OP made about having a budget of up to $1500 then I'd make some changes to what I recommended but I really don't see anything that will make a major difference to their boxing experience if they are only looking at max 5-boxing.

[EDIT]
Fixed links Sam, thanks for pointing out.

I really would rahter see OP spend a little more on upgrading to on of the gigabyte Z68 mATX mobo's and spending more money elsewhere than on case/cooler as I don't think those will add anything to the experience in a noticeable manner compared to moving up to a 3Gb 580GTX for instance.

[Bollwerk]

I'd be VERY wary of buying something as complex as a computer on Ebay. What happens if something doesn't work? How is their customer service and return policy? How do you know the seller won't vanish or go out of business in a week/month/etc?
Better off buying something from a known, reputable retailer than Ebay, IMHO. It's just not worth trying to save a few bucks to get crappy quality from an unknown vendor.

[Catamer]

The deal is im clueless about computors. im making the transition from 2 to 5 boxing WoW accounts and from what i can see this seems to be a good deal.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-INTEL-Core-i7-2600-3-40GHZ-DESKTOP-PC-8GB-Ram-/110683641339?pt=AU_comp_dekstop&hash=item19c54255fb

any feedback would be great!

i should probebly add some more info.
I am planning on playing on 1 monitor which i have (please mention if you think i should get more)
as for how much im willing to spend... i don't realy know not more than $1500 i hope.

My experience with buying an ultra cheap PC was like this...
1. the motherboard video won't do anything more than web browsing so I bought a new video card. $$$
2. the video card was too much for the power supply so I had to buy a power supply $$$
3. now I have a hot video card and a hot power supply so now the case doesn't have enough air so I needed a new case $$$
by the time I was done I ended up paying more than if I just just built the PC from scratch.

[tundra622]

Thank you all for your input! and thank you so so so soooo much Knytestorme and Sam for you suggestions ill hopefully be buying parts this weekend if not sooner!
This all started from me finding Cataclysm expansions for $18 each =P

(http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17016)

[tundra622]

im still tossing up between the Sapphire Radeon HD6950 2GB Dirt3 Edition (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17637) and Gainward GeForce GTX 580 3GB Phantom (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17016)
if i go with the 6950 its not going to give me any problems will it?
and Knytestorme so the ASRock can't be upgraded to 16gb

[Knytestorme]

im still tossing up between the Sapphire Radeon HD6950 2GB Dirt3 Edition (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17637) and Gainward GeForce GTX 580 3GB Phantom (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17016)
if i go with the 6950 its not going to give me any problems will it?
and Knytestorme so the ASRock can't be upgraded to 16gb

I upgraded from SLI 460's last week to the 6950 and has worked pretty flawlessly so far with 5 clients. Can't go full-on with graphics settings but it's not horrendous...that being said, if you'll keep this machine a while I'd go the 3Gb 580, I just went this way as a stop-gap till new cards are announced.

The ASRock only has 2 RAM slots iirc so you are pretty much limited to 2x4Gb sticks while the Gigabyte (and most other non mATX boards) will have 4 slots.

Now sure where in NSW you are but you can also check MSY for options but I generally prefer pccasegear over MSY for better range and website.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I would not get a MB with only 2 slots.


The 6950 is a very good choice, of course the 580 3G is better but any 2G card is going to be solid and the 6950 is better then the 460 for sure.

The 6970 is not worth the extra $100 or so at pccase.

And they don't even have the 460 so for you the 6950 is the best buy for the buck.

The 580 will come down in price and you could upgrade to it later when its cheaper if needed.

[tundra622]

Was I suppost to mount the 3 fans onto eachother?

[Knytestorme]

if you went with the case I suggested 1 fan goes on the back and 2 on the front.

[tundra622]

Yew! Some of Stuff seems to be working! Yay for putting it together your self!