Best Heroic instance to start with?

[Motoren]

Im playing 1 prot pally, 1 holy priest and 3 arcane mages and i was wondering witch heroic instance would be the easiest one to start with?

And Dur i can see you are running the same setup as me, would you like to share some of your macros so i can see if i miss some important ones.



Best regards

Giz

[opt]

id consider mechanar except boss #2. Because your a pally you will be able to tank the ads on the last boss, if your gears upto it.
I think ill try mechanar first, i did that place about 30 times on my warrior trying to get suneater.

[Silly Gooooose]

Slave pens IMO.

First off it's just the easiest heroic ever, IMO.

Second, you have lots of sheeps.

[Toned]

Slave Pens = easy, Sethekk halls = easy

[Motoren]

I tried ramparts a few weeks ago and they hit semi hard on my pally, my gear is not that good.. mostly blue and a few purple pieces. been trying to get my rep up lately so i can buy some stuff for the quartermasters. But i would like to get a badge now and then if i can manage it. I will give it a try again tomorrow and see how it goes.

Giz

[junx]

I would suggest also doing the 'easy' bosses in an instance when you are first starting and then moving on to the next one. Like doing the first two bosses in slave pens and then hungarfen in underbog(the pull before him is harder than he is on heroic). That way you can start getting badges and some gear without banging your head against the wall. Also the trash before the final bosses always tends to be harder and more of it. For instance mana tombs is just a ton of trash after the second boss. Sethek heroic was also nerfed pretty hard after they put the Druid epic flight form quest in there so that is another good place to start.

[Kicksome]

You could do the first boss in heroic mana tombs - he does 0 melee damage - all shadow damage. Just get your pally some shadow resist junk gear on the AH (total cost maybe like 50 gold max). Get pally's Shadow Resist up to 200+ with your pally aura. I can do it without too many problems. I have 1 pally tank, 1 holy priest, 1 shaman, 2xmages and a few epics on each. It's not too hard to do and there are only like 7 packs or so before you can pull the first boss.

[Motoren]

I just tried slave pens and they hit very hard up to 2k on my pally... guess i need to get him some better gear before doing those.. i have 11k hp and ok block parry but i guess not that great after all hehe.

Team Giz

[Motoren]

I have been doing alittle heroic the last few days... i have been able to kill the first boss i slavepens 3 times now without too many problems, normally he dies in the first try now. I have killed the first boss in ramparts 2 times now and just killed the 2nd boss there too, my shadow resist is 161now with buff, but it seems to me that its not me taking dmg its how fast my mages can burn him down due to the hounds eating me :) more to come i hope.

Giz

1pally 1priest 3mages

[donfran]

hi just adding my 2cents worth

Try to gear up doing the normal instances as much as possible. Heroic bosses aren't that hard, but heroic trash can be a bummer.
We all know how hard Bog Lords hit :(

Heroic Instances that I did once i dinged 70: Slave Pens, Underbog, Mechanaar. However, my group often had an offhealer, like a spriest, elem shaman etc. to tide over certain hard trash pulls.

If you're really confident, try out the ones I mentioned. Do note that Mech and in parts of Botanica, a warlock makes it much, much easier.

[Nixi]

What's a rough ranking of the heroics ?

Easy:
Slave Pens
Mech
Seth Halls
Botonica



Medium:
Underbog
ramparts
Mana-tombs
Blood Furnance
Steamvaults


Hard:
Shattered Halls
Shadow Labs
Crypts
Arc


Does that sound about right? (In approximately that order)

I have 0 multiboxing experience in heroics beyond watching my pally die on the first pull in slave pens. I had just turned 70 when I tried it and haven't tried any since. Although my toons are a bit better geared so I'm looking to start the easy ones.

[marvein]

What's a rough ranking of the heroics ?

Easy:
Slave Pens
Mech
Seth Halls
Botonica



Medium:
Underbog
ramparts
Mana-tombs
Blood Furnance
Steamvaults


Hard:
Shattered Halls
Shadow Labs
Crypts
Arc


Does that sound about right? (In approximately that order)

I have 0 multiboxing experience in heroics beyond watching my pally die on the first pull in slave pens. I had just turned 70 when I tried it and haven't tried any since. Although my toons are a bit better geared so I'm looking to start the easy ones.



Id say you got it right on your list though Ive found heric crypts to be quite easy each time ive done it. Perhaps being a resto druid rather than another healing class may be a big factor on that though, atleast on the first boss. So id personally list it under 'medium'.

In my experiences as a healer (shaman team isnt in outlands yet) the hands down hardest heroic ive had to do was probably the last boss of arcatraz just because there is so much dmg in that fight and its kind of random (or the first boss in arc, the voidwalker guy). Shattered halls is pretty rough too but for the most part the bosses are actually pretty easy, they just hit harder and its a really long instance (but worth 7 badges for a full clear, which is a ton)

For shadow labs the hardest part of murmur is paying attention and moving eveyone in and out of the ring at the right time, The first boss is just meh, blackheart is a luck factor and the summoner is just a dps race. The big pulls before blackheart are a bitch without CC though, the biggest check there is get your kill order right and burn the extras down super fast or you will get stomped.

IMO the easiest heroic Ive ever been in has been ramparts with the exception of the last boss. Who isnt bad if your tank is geared and stacks FR and sta since he doesnt hit that hard its just his breath attacks that hurt. Id almost go so far as to say the second boss in ramparts has got to be the easiest heroic boss ive ever killed I think. UB was always a favorite of ours too but our tank was also able to tank both bog lords before ungerfen at once, if that gives you any idea on his gear lol. heroic SP is pretty easy too because you can skip the ones you dont want (like the 2nd to last boss).

There are some good recommendations here, and one of the best ones is don't try to clear a whole instance your first go. Going in and downing the first boss in several instances still gets you some badges and its easier while you gear up. The second tip was farm, farm, farm those regulars to death. I have a love/hate relationship with blizzard changing the faction requirements for heroic keys. I hate it because now 70% of my heroic pugs have been epic fail. But I like it because I have geared up some of my characters from sources other than normal instances (crafts/boes/dailies/pvp) thus Im geared enough to do them but far from the revered requirement they used to be. That being said reaching revered with a faction is a good indication that your gear is probably pretty decent. If your team are fresh 70s or you just hit honored your not going to be doing much in any heroic. Its also true that most of the time what makes herics harder than normals are the trash pulls not the bosses. Shattered halls and Shadowlabs' 5-7pack pulls are in this category and the un-CCable twins in sethek as well. Where they were already kind of hard in normal they are pretty bad in heroic but the bosses are about the same but simply hit harder.

*edit* massive typos lol

[Motoren]

I just wanted to give you an update on my progress.

I have fully cleared slave pens and botanica and got a few pieces of epic from badged now. I have tried the fist boss in mana tombs a few times and im still trying to get the position right, seem like my team is getting hit way too hard by the shadow spells. I will try mechanar later today and see how it goes, i have killed the first and last boss in there in normal mode without any problems, the 2nd boss is just a pain hehe so im gonna skip her untill they all have 800+FR :)

Some bosses are easy with my team and hard with other teams. Fear is my main enemy, thats why i have only tried Shadow Labyrinth a few times, the fist boss is damn annoying.

Team Giz
1pally 1priest 3xmages

[Motoren]

I killed the first and last boss in mechanar last night.. The waves before the last boss killed me a few times or 5 hehe. Its very hard to run with the pally and at the same time find targets with the mages so they can sheep :) The last boss wasnt that hard to kill, i was ignoring the adds and just keept them on the pally and nuked away with the mages, he doesnt have that many hp and the adds despawn at 20%.

Team Giz

1pally 1priest 3xmages

[Jaws5]

What is your def rating on tank?

[Motoren]

I have around 490 def and little over 13k ac and im close to uncrushable need one or two more items. I got the libram and autoblocker trinket from heroic badges. the other characters are getting better gear now too.. priest is at little over 1300+healing and the mages have around 800+damage.

Team Giz

1pally 1priest 3xmages