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LightWrath
07-10-2011, 01:37 PM
Good evening,

Was wondering if anyone would put some input on shammy macros, Focusing on the AOE spell
Even though i beileve i have setup depend macros for boss fights, for trash i wanted to make use of chain lightning and fire nova.
Problem is that with assisting i'd have to keep changing the target on the tank at the end of everyone FS, FN, CL.
So far I have this setup:

Keymap > (Reset on last press 3.0)
STEP 1 > (Timed 4.5)
> Macro >>>

/cast auto attack
/castsequence reset=1 Flame shock, Fire Nova, Chain Lightning, -

STEP 2 > (Timed 1.5)
> Macro >>>

/cast Lava Burst

Step 3 >
> Macro >>>

/targetenemy

Idea been that the Auto attack selects a random first target, Dots it and uses the AOE spells then gets to the to the " , - " Dash part to stop the macro from restarting and using flame shock again (if for whatever reason it takes less then 4.5 as set in that keymap step.
After that it does lava burst on the same target and the first macro has a time of 1 second to reset, so i'll reset while doing lava burst.
Then is step 3, /targetenemy is done to act as pressing tab and starting over on the same target.

Now i thought in theory this would be brutal on say 5 mobs, but it seems that the /targetenemy isn't really working as i'd hoped, Am only really getting on most 2 active flame shocks, even if i have a load of mobs, At level 82 in half normal instance gear am only really getting 5K DPS in AOE, which is less then my pally tank.
Is there any better way of doing this, My current efforts just seem to not been applied as well as first hoped.

topgear
07-10-2011, 03:04 PM
Flame Shock has a 6sec cooldown (without talents) so against trash mobs 2 shocks equals around 12secs which should approximate the duration of the fight.. Are you using a Magma Totem for AoE?

LightWrath
07-10-2011, 03:28 PM
Magma totem is used, not on this macro but on another along with thunderstorm.
Cd for my flame shock is 5 seconds, meaning i can get a flame shock off every 5 seconds with this macro, but well now am thinking of changing this to try and get it so that they are all used when off cooldown, rather then depending on the cooldown of flame shock.

Still for some reason, in many fights am finding that the targets arn't changing, it's just rebuffing the same target and nor changing to target 2, 3, etc. even though they are right next to each other.

THe shammy will target a suitable mob with just the /cast auto attack, dot and nova it, but then it just repeats that on the same target, even though the /targetenemy is used.

>>>
Latest idea to further improve this would be to have fire nova and chain lightnng on a /click in the maco so they are constantly pressed when off CD. rather then waiting the 6 seconds for the macro to be done again.

topgear
07-10-2011, 03:50 PM
If your shaman is an alt and not your main you could try adding /assist(main) and use your main to manually choose a target for your shaman. I also see that Chain Lightning has a 2sec cast but a 3sec cd so I wander if that is interferring somehow with the 5sec cd on Flame Shock (as in chain lightning is delaying your 2nd or 3rd shock by a sec or two)?

topgear
07-10-2011, 04:10 PM
You could also try an addon like Hermes which shows the cooldowns on your alts so you can trigger everything off cds (like you posted above).

LightWrath
07-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Well i could do that, but when i first tried that. It felt somewhat restrictive, if i was to look aggro on a mob i'd have to target it and therefore that work be re-dotted and dps'ed.
also with using that, due to the lag of me changing target and the shammies actually seeing the target change on their game client from the main. this lag can sometimes cause the spell rotation do go out of sync i found.

An overveiw of time scales:
Macro one has 4.5 seconds to run it's duration.:
Flame Shock (1.5 sec GCD) + Fire Nova (1.5 sec GCD) + Chaining lightning (1.5 Sec GCD, 1.38 Sec Cast) = 4.5
Macro 2 with just 1.5, which is just Lava burst cast, My LB been a 1.38 second cast
>>>

Looking at the feature of /targetenemy
I found a post on some other long lost fourms regarding this
Quote:

I remember hearing that the semi-broken tabbing in WoW was Blizzard's solution to the "tab-dar" addons that put every selectable target in range on their mini-maps.

For me, I have to mash Tab twice to get it to cycle to the next target. I've kind of gotten used to it, but I often find myself mousing targets instead because it's often faster and more accurate when I tank.

Which looking on the dummies, at times the target doesn't change, other it does, i can't seem to see a pattern in what is causing it to not move to the next target but i can confirm it's clicking the /targetenemy macro and it not changing. but then out of combat it always works :S

Yeah i'll have to take a look at that addon. I really need to get some addons downloaded. Not even re-downloaded Jamba yet ... Shameful.

topgear
07-10-2011, 04:22 PM
I'm curious (and maybe someone else could answer for sure) whether the strafe left/right plus /targetenemy would be quicker for selecting a new target since moving the shaman would put it closer to a new target?

LightWrath
07-10-2011, 05:10 PM
That does seem to work to a point, but then it requires moving to the nearest target, which even though that works on dummies if your tanking them and they all grouped, it's going to be a job getting them in line to select the next target on.

I've found that when the /cast auto attack is used, it seems to stop changing target, atleast on the dummies, when a target is selected to start with without entering combat on targeting, it seems to work. but then after the first switch it stops working again.

LightWrath
07-10-2011, 05:35 PM
I beileve i finally have what i wanted in my AOE macro, got a little more complex then i first wanted. but here it is:

Ingame configuration:
Button 1: /target focustarget ----> Has to be this, as using /cast auto attack or assist to select the first target for me caused the switching not to work.
Button 2: /cast Magma Totem
Button 3: /castsequence reset=3 Flame shock, -
Button 4: /cast Fire Nova
Button 5: /cast Chain Lightning
Button 6: /cast Lava Burst
Button 7: /targetenemy

Keymap configuration:
Step 1: Don't advance for 1.0 sec > Keymap action Button 1, Button 2
Step 2: Don't advance for 1.5 sec > Keymap action Button 3
Step 3: Don't advance for 4.5 sec > Keymap action Button 4, Button 5, Button 6
Step 4: Advance on press ---------> Keymap action Button 7
Step 5: Don't advance for 1.5 sec > Keymap action Button 3
Step 6: Don't advance for 4.5 sec > Keymap action Button 4, Button 5, Button 6
Step 7: Advance on press ---------> Keymap action Button 7
Step 8: Advance on press ---------> Keymap action Button 7
Step 9: Advance on press ---------> Mapped Key step action: Set to: Step 2

Might be wondering why it repeats it self, but well i found that on the first press of /targetenemy it would change, but then on the second it would not, so on the second it had to be pressed twice. and the repeat.

Thank you for your suggestions, should help me a lot on the trash in my current runs :)

topgear
07-10-2011, 06:15 PM
Keep me updated on your results/progressand good luck