Question about new program

[Individual]

Hello, Im just curious about if people would find another software for multiboxing attractive.

It would be for one computer boxing.

Things it would include:
Key sharing ofc.
Mouse Sharing (Hotkey to share mouseclick, and possibly a mouse region where mouse clicks are broadcasted.
Fast tabbing (Could be like Numpad1-5 for the diffrent windows, and possibly something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7RXteGefEA
and ofc free to use :)

[Lax]

Of course people are interested in more free software alternatives, if that's the question I'm not sure it needed to be asked! ;)

The most important thing is that you have to have something unique, and that's what kills most of these threads -- every multiboxing software claims those features. That and to attract people from using HotkeyNet you have to allow them to duplicate their HKN configuration through your software.

Don't let me discourage you, though. If you can do something unique, see it through. And I mean that sincerely. Best of luck! :)

[Individual]

Wasent planning on using script files tho, just an easy configuration with dropdown boxes for diffrent hotkeys and pic your key sharing options inside it ofc, in a easy way, u find the keys u want to be shared and select the key and press add key, and set up hotkey for mouse sharing and also make mouse areas by pressing a button then drag the mouse over the screen where u want the region.

But idk, have to check thrue how hotkeynets scripts look etc, never rly used any other tool for multiboxing than ones i have created for myself.

Thanks for the tips and reply tho, ill do a little work on it as time goes by, actually its mostly converting it into suiting all resolutions that is needed, got what i needed setup already, but cant expect everyone to use my settings and addons, and ofc broadcasting to 5 windows instead of just 2

[Freddie]

It was apparent during the Mojo alpha test a couple of years ago that there is a lot of demand for a multiboxing program that requires no configuration by the user and broadcasts key strokes and mouse clicks to all WoWs. Such a program:

1. Installs with a few mouse clicks.


2. Requires no network configuration (it connects automatically to multiple copies of itself across a home network).


3. Finds all running WoWs dynamically in real time without help from the user.


3. By default, whenever you press keys or click mouse buttons in a WoW window, automatically broadcasts the same events to all other WoW windows on the network.


4. Contains a "black list" dialog box that allows the user to say, "Don't broadcast this particular key or mouse button."


That was the basic core functionality that many people wanted. Of course you could add more complex features on top of that. Launch WoWs, send events selectively only to certain WoWs, etc.

I don't think it's practical to parse HotkeyNet scripts. HotkeyNet's script language is primitive as such things go, but it does have If-statements, variables of a limited sort, and a primitive template feature. It would be a tremendous amount of work to parse these scripts and derive something from them that you could duplicate in your program, and it's not worth the effort. I would recommend implementing what I described above. Many people wanted such a program.

[ElectronDF]

I think he was saying, if you could do it in HKN, to win those people over, you would need to be able to do it in your new program. Like, round robin (toggle). If your new program can't do round-robin, it might not win people from HKN, since you can do it there. If you can't do white list or blacklist (I press "2" and only computer #2 repsonds to it or don't broadcast anything other than 1-0 and F1-F12), then it might be limiting. If you can't talk to multiple computers, again, probably won't win new people. I wouldn't worry about having to do everything that everything else can do. You can expand later, just get something that works first.
If you want to do something no eles has done, Mac and PC use hasn't been done. Mouse broadcasting has been done, but it is mostly a WOW thing (camera position and player facing) more than a broadcasting thing (my opinion).

[Freddie]

I think he was saying, if you could do it in HKN, to win those people over, you would need to be able to do it in your new program.
Yeah, I think I took the discussion too literally. But your interpretation -- that the new program should duplicate HotkeyNet's features -- wouldn't be practical either because it would take too long, and I don't think it could be done with a GUI interface. HotkeyNet has too many features, and I don't think it's possible to design a GUI that would allow the user to define all the behaviors that can be defined with the script language.

Some random examples of HotkeyNet's features:

-- HotkeyNet lets people paint panels of buttons on the screen using their own artwork, and they can assign the buttons to execute pieces of scripts conditionally based on many different conditions.

-- HotkeyNet lets the user kill mutexes to which external processes hold open handles;

-- HotkeyNet allows people to use the chat line in a game as an input field for commands that are defined in HotkeyNet's scripts;

-- etc.

There are dozens of non-trivial features like that in HotkeyNet. Each of them would take a substantial amount of time to reimplement, test, and document.

If I were writing a multiboxing program from scratch, I would forget HotkeyNet and implement what I described above (the feature set of old Mojo). Such a program can grow in any desired direction, so there are no limits. But that's what I would start with.

[Akoko]

Freddie, just wondering what happened with Mojo. I remember following it about a year ago but I stopped multiboxing. Did you discontinue the project? Can't seem to find any links to it or the site on google anymore.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Yur wasting time, IsBoxer is so far ahead of anything that there is no competition.

No offense ment to the very well meaning posters in this thread but spending money on 5 accounts and a computer good enough to run them at the same time; and then using "free software" is like buying a $50,000 race car and then going to the junkyard to find "free tires" for it, and then complaining when you lose the race.

[Khatovar]

Yur wasting time, IsBoxer is so far ahead of anything that there is no competition.

No offense ment to the very well meaning posters in this thread but spending money on 5 accounts and a computer good enough to run them at the same time; and then using "free software" is like buying a $50,000 race car and then going to the junkyard to find "free tires" for it, and then complaining when you lose the race.

Yes, everyone should stop doing anything in the world because everything is fine as it is.

If someone wants to try something, there's no reason to tell them that they're wasting their time. That is not what this community is about. How many times have we seen "impossible" or "impractical" things come up here only to have them become all the rage a month later?

There is no one way to do anything, there is always room for alternatives and one never knows where innovation can come from.

[Individual]

Thanks for all replies, but its not just a project i want to do cause i think i can make it better than programs like IsBoxer which i know i cannot beat. Its just the simple fact that i enjoy coding things as a hobby, and why not make a workable program that some people might find intressting to use, juse makes the coding the application more fun knowing that it might get used by other people than me, hence this question on this site.

Cause right now i have fixed it so it works fine for me except for mouse region, just made an example of mouse region tho, just have to add so you can have several of them, not juse one, anyhow.

so to sum this up, im not creating this program cause i think i can do it better, i do it for the fun of coding and for gaining experience in coding.
If its used thats a huge plus cause i enjoy seeing things i make being used.

Thanks for all tips etc so far.

PS. This is going to take quite some time with my current job i dont have much time for coding, but ill work on it every now and then when i find it i have the time, sadly time is limited.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

My mother would be a happy user of your software as you've defined it. Octopus was borderline for her to set up, and that was only because I was able to help with questions about macros and setting up a few hotkeys. She'd never be able to get ISBoxer up and running without me coming down and doing it all for her.

So yes, you'd have a market for an easy "plug-and-play" boxing software. ;)

[Akoko]

My mother would be a happy user of your software as you've defined it. Octopus was borderline for her to set up, and that was only because I was able to help with questions about macros and setting up a few hotkeys. She'd never be able to get ISBoxer up and running without me coming down and doing it all for her.

So yes, you'd have a market for an easy "plug-and-play" boxing software. ;)

I would agree, the market for a plug-and-play multiboxing software is still wide open.

The only problem is, the population in that "market" is extremely transient. The vast majority of multiboxers, once they become familiar with the basics, seek increasingly finer and finer control over what their characters can do. A plug-and-play solution would be nice, but I can't see anyone sticking with it for more than a few days or a week once they've grasped the basics of movement, targeting, etc. Even the concept of multiboxing itself defies simplicity, so it is no surprise that the software leading the multiboxing market right now can accommodate even the most complex of setups.

If you'd want to go with the "magic simplicity" route, you'd have to be pretty damn good to do something more magical than the ISBoxer quick setup wizard that already sets up FTL for you...

[Daeri]

There is already an example of such a software (minus mouse broadcasting which is planned for next major version) but sadly limited to French language friendly folks. It's called MoW. Very popular within the French-speaking wow multiboxing community, mainly because others solutions lack non English translations & tutorials or even support. A video tutorial (http://www.dual-boxing.fr/forum/showthread.php?tid=2143&pid=21888#pid21888) shows how to get it up and running in a few minutes. An user provided a tool which adds easy FTL functionality to the software.

My point is, of course there's always room for new solutions, all you need is to find a niche where your software can fits in. It will eventually grow from there.

[ElectronDF]

Damn, that looks cool. Je ne parle pas Francais. Oh well, maybe someone will come up with a way to add English to it.

[Jurimaxelf]

Many of Wow indeed looks cool, in case anyone wants to use it, but has some troubles with the french part, just holler (french is my second language).

Cheers