So who's tired of the SWTOR hype?

[Igg]

Anyone else wished this damn game was never developed?
I mean it's been in development forever, and all they ever do is release a screen shot or some stupid trailer to keep the hype alive.

[ElectronDF]

How long does it take for Blizzard's Titan to show up? 4-5 years? How long does it take Diablo III to show up after hearing about it, 3-5 years? Since people can't wait 6 months for a major patch, it seems like an eternaty (spelling) for a game from a big company to show up. In my mind it is mostly about marketing.

If you release with no annoucement, you get less people.
If it takes you 5 years to make it, then if you mention it 3 years out, you can tell how many people want it by the people responding to the hype.
If you don't release when it is coming out exactly, you don't get other companies releasing products on top of your release and diminishing demand.
If you don't show all that it can do (no demo, no long gameplay trailer, etc), you don't get other companies copying what you can do and beating you to it.
If you don't like the game before it is released, why worry about it? Do you go around and say, "I don't like Olive Garden, why don't they just shut down?"

[HPAVC]

I doubt its hyped any more than other average titles, likely likely responsive to the advertisements / buzz. i bet there is more page impressions about the wow 4.2 patch that there is for starwars in total.

This is likely due to the paid bloggers making insane money off (in ad revenue) off those beta keys and other giveaway shit that accompanies this garbage, I blame them.

[Apps]

How long does it take for Blizzard's Titan to show up? 4-5 years? How long does it take Diablo III to show up after hearing about it, 3-5 years? Since people can't wait 6 months for a major patch, it seems like an eternaty (spelling) for a game from a big company to show up. In my mind it is mostly about marketing.

If you release with no annoucement, you get less people.
If it takes you 5 years to make it, then if you mention it 3 years out, you can tell how many people want it by the people responding to the hype.
If you don't release when it is coming out exactly, you don't get other companies releasing products on top of your release and diminishing demand.
If you don't show all that it can do (no demo, no long gameplay trailer, etc), you don't get other companies copying what you can do and beating you to it.
If you don't like the game before it is released, why worry about it? Do you go around and say, "I don't like Olive Garden, why don't they just shut down?"

Perfection.

No more instant gratification please.
Blizz has proven its a crappy way of doing business.

I dont mind waiting for a good product. I dont mind one bit, if lucasfilm wants to be involved and help create a superb, well written, well produced, well displayed game. Who am I as Joe Schmo consumer to complain about it. Whens the last time someone could be heard saying "Star Wars movies suck"... uhh like next to not at all.

No, for me. Im excited that finally a game developer has decided to not buy into the whining and pleading of massess of nerdy teens, and instead build a good comeptitive product.

/trolling. Besides, even the act of making an anti hype thread, does what??? What are we talking about???

[Gomotron]

Just please, for goodness sake, don't make it Star Wars Galaxies 2.

Although if it is, I'll laugh my arse off.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I haven't noticed much hype for SW:TOR, maybe because it's not on my attention radar. The last Star Wars game I enjoyed for more than 5 minutes was Tie Fighter. /shrug


Whens the last time someone could be heard saying "Star Wars movies suck"... uhh like next to not at all.You mean like people complained about Jar Jar? Or how the guy that played teenage Anakin was a bad actor? Or how the movies went from a darker, dirtier shade of sci-fi in episodes 4-6 to the shiny, sparkly, kid-targeted movies in episodes 1-3? Or how Samuel L. Jackson should never, ever have been cast as a Jedi?

Yeah, nobody has complained in the slightest about the newer movies.

Bad choice of analogy, IMO.

[Khatovar]

Star Wars movies suck. Trek all the way, baby.

[Multibocks]

Im tired of the hype only because it will ruin my opening day experience. I expect a lot from this game and I think I will be disappointed due to those expectations. It will be "Star Wars: the WoW Experience" I'm sure.

[Apps]

I haven't noticed much hype for SW:TOR, maybe because it's not on my attention radar. The last Star Wars game I enjoyed for more than 5 minutes was Tie Fighter. /shrug

You mean like people complained about Jar Jar? Or how the guy that played teenage Anakin was a bad actor? Or how the movies went from a darker, dirtier shade of sci-fi in episodes 4-6 to the shiny, sparkly, kid-targeted movies in episodes 1-3? Or how Samuel L. Jackson should never, ever have been cast as a Jedi?

Yeah, nobody has complained in the slightest about the newer movies.

Bad choice of analogy, IMO.

Hmmm, I had totally forgotten and overlooked those. Very true. No argument. I think the general movies were good enough to have skipped over these blips. Sort of like a pink pony tail gnome.

God I severely dislike Samuel L Jackwaggon. R2D2 can "out-act" him. Hell, his counter to being a hero is "snakes... on a plane" @@

[Mosg2]

I'm too horrified to say anything other than: The third prequel movie was one of my favorites, Sammy did a great job as a Jedi and Hayden it potentially the worst actor I've ever seen.

Oh, and Star Wars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Star Trek.

[Tonuss]

I always thought that Empire Strikes Back was the only one that was worth a damn.

As for the hype, I haven't noticed it, but I don't follow gaming sites and as someone else said SWTOR isn't on my radar. Gaming companies working on such large and ambitious games have to do a pretty tough balancing act. You know that it can take a long time to develop a game like this, and that you might miss the release date by weeks, months, and sometimes years. But you also need time to develop some momentum for the release, because if initial sales are weak your game might be dead before people realize that it's fun to play.

So you have to generate buzz early and often, knowing that if it takes longer than expected to release it, you might wind up either driving up expectations (and players feel let down even if it's a good game) or you drag it out too long and people lose interest. Getting the timing right is less of an art and more a stroke of luck.

[remanz]

SWTOR.

EA + BioWare, I did have some hope about this game BEFORE they released the game play screenshots and footages. Rumored budget of what ? 300 mil ?

I have to say, the screenshot looks worriesome. The game needs some serious help in the tech department. It looks worse than vanilla wow. Maybe they choose this route to reach out to more audience with mid level machines. While I don't want another FF14, I certainly don't want 2001 graphics either.

My conern is that if you sacrifice graphics, you have to make it up with game play. Fast action, non-target based combat, so far I haven't seen that. The game reminds me of Mass Effect 1 while story telling and character development are strong. The graphics, animation, and combat are subpar.

[defactoman]

I actually thought everything looked about normal, and that's the problem for me. Aside from the story elements it looks like every other mmo out there, just with a different theme. Look buttons and target windows with pre-set animation..woooo omg so awsome!

Now the story part might set it apart, but ill be honest I have a hard time getting how they plan to make a MMO with the story telling awsomeness of their single player game while balancing all the classes and making your choices matter? I dunno i guess if anyone can do it it's bioware

That said, normal usually means good for multiboxing on a technical level.

[remanz]

its simple really. Being cartoony, I compare it against DC Universe online. So far it shows it look worse than DCUO. DCUO had some content issues, but at least combat was ok. Being boxing friendly is a good point.

maybe it will be a good game to box.

[Velassra]

Star Wars movies suck. Trek all the way, baby.


Star Trek Online is way better than it was at release.

No Darth Vader tho....lol.

[Apps]

It looks worse than vanilla wow. Maybe they choose this route to reach out to more audience with mid level machines. .

I dunno about worse. I played wow from day one. No, not worse. Not even close.

However, Its no secret the decision to make the game less graphic intensive was not an accident. Just like wow, its expected to have multible video settings options, depending on your hardware. I read on the swtor2 page (a year ago?) maybe more;... there was much research and market studies to indicate, high graphic games, Aion, Lotro, AoC.. although had better graphics than WoW, simply didnt do as well, because they didnt have enough market space, nor had enough content. Joe Schmo consumer's parents couldnt afford the machine to power them.

Also, the game isnt meant to rival wow... compare to wow, or beat it out, or anything like that what so ever. The Dev manager has said MANY times, he and his main team of developers played wow, Aion, warhammer, AoC, Lotro, Guild Wars, Mass Effect... and all eventually settled on wow as the stamp of which to look up to.


If youre a smart engineer and want to build a bridge to span a river, and successfully last for years on end, you can take designs from the golden gate bridge and other good bridges... not build another entire golden gate bridge.

[jinkobi]

What you're talking about actually happened to me with WOW/Cataclysm. There was so much hype over Cata and the wait between WOTLK was so long. Then I wondered how every a-hole and their little brother got beta invites and I've never got a beta invite in 6 years of supporting Blizz.

Anyway! I'm not to that point yet with SWTOR. I'm not worrying about it or even thinking about it very much. Way too early to start getting excited about it really.

I'd rather they take all the time they need than release a bug infested half finished mess like Age of Conan.

[Littleburst]

What hype?

[remanz]

I dunno about worse. I played wow from day one. No, not worse. Not even close.

However, Its no secret the decision to make the game less graphic intensive was not an accident. Just like wow, its expected to have multible video settings options, depending on your hardware. I read on the swtor2 page (a year ago?) maybe more;... there was much research and market studies to indicate, high graphic games, Aion, Lotro, AoC.. although had better graphics than WoW, simply didnt do as well, because they didnt have enough market space, nor had enough content. Joe Schmo consumer's parents couldnt afford the machine to power them.

Also, the game isnt meant to rival wow... compare to wow, or beat it out, or anything like that what so ever. The Dev manager has said MANY times, he and his main team of developers played wow, Aion, warhammer, AoC, Lotro, Guild Wars, Mass Effect... and all eventually settled on wow as the stamp of which to look up to.


If youre a smart engineer and want to build a bridge to span a river, and successfully last for years on end, you can take designs from the golden gate bridge and other good bridges... not build another entire golden gate bridge.

well obviously it had level of details as every game does. But I think it would be foolish to show off screenshots on "non-max" settings. It must be maxed. and it looks out-dated. I take it that the looks can be subjective. But Like I said, compare it to DCUO, does it look better ?

As for comparing to MMOs, why compare to past MMOs that are mostly 5+ years old. and of course the devs had played those mmos. and that leads up to the decision to have poor graphics ? What's wrong with good graphics (highly customizable) + good content that you have to sacrifice graphics for content. If you want to compare, compare to the next gen MMOs from oversea. Compare it to Guild War 2, Blade and Soul, Tera, even those free to play MMO, Dragon Nest, and Vindictus, they are all (minus Dragon Nest, but that game has the fastest combat) looking better than SWTOR.

lastly as for gaming industry, Why is copying the old and successful games the best thing to do for us gamers. It only makes sense for those investors and publishers who care more about their investment than innovations and advencements in games. Its smart for them, but I am not supporting it.

[Multibocks]

I, too, am worried by the graphics of this game. Not much is exciting on that front.

[MiRai]

It looks worse than vanilla wow.

Maxed video settings at 1280x1024 -- WoW Alpha build from December 2003

http://multiboxology.com/bin/images/wow/alpha/WoWScrnShot_122303_174149.png

[remanz]

and this is what SWTOR looks like

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8973/newscreensfromtatooinei.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/200/newscreensfromtatooinei.jpg/)
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[MiRai]

and this is what SWTOR looks like
Ouch...

[Multibocks]

I think they made the zones too big so the art design isn't as nice, since it would take forever to fill them. Oh well.

[MiRai]

If you're using an SSD hopefully you've got the hard drive space.

http://uppix.net/d/c/f/8cebf262c6e75f42595e4b4564fe5.jpg

[eauxfolles]

... hope that's all the space which is needed. With all the Voice-Over I was expecting quite some demand.