5 mages

[Multibocks]

Just wanted to post some Mage updates. Learning from Beeq's movies I have cleared SFK and stonecore. I have had limited success with GB, VP, the crocodile instance. I have not tried deadmines (yuck) or the water instance(double yuck). I have done almost all the bosses that Beeq kills in ZA and ZG. Those places the trash is annoying, but doable. Highest dps I have hit is 45k per toon. My guys still need some upgrades so I should move up in dps.

I also tried farming BoT trash, but after 2 hours of grinding I gave up with no epics. I also tried Onyxia, but need more hit to take her out.

Anyways just an update on my Mage progress, curious what the other mage teams have done.

[Malgor]

My all mage team just hit 55 so it'll be awhile!

[Akoko]

That's very interesting that cataclysm heroics can be done without any sort of healing. Do you have to just blow up all the bosses before they can even hit you once or something?

I'm curious because I'm levelling up a team of 5 boomkins and I'm already having difficulty with certain bosses around level 25-29ish that can kill my characters in a several hits. Will 5 boomkins be good for max level heroics?

[Redbeard]

Its incorrect to say you can do heroics without a healer.(necessarily). Its not true across the board.

What is correct is that 5 mages have pwned most of the bosses / instances. They do this with a combination of very high dps and the mirror images cooldown.

I am working on 5 boomkin too but not sure how well theyll do, theyll never have that DPS and they dont have the cooldown... not sure.

[Multibocks]

images tank for 30 secs so no mage takes any damage except for cleave or magic damage. Mages are expensive in that you NEED to have flasks and use volcanic potions on every boss until your gear gets really good and then you can probably drop the flasks.

Mages work because Blizzard didnt foresee 5 of them blowing all CDs and killing a boss very quickly, because arcane mages eat mana so quickly its ridiculous. In fact the only thing limiting a few of my kills lately is that:
A. images disappear before boss is dead (too much movement to fight or phase transitions take too long)
B. boss has too much health (use all mana before hes dead)

I am limited to bosses of 5.5 million health right now, so I need better gear to kill them. Good thing is most heroic bosses are around 4 million health.

I tried the 3rd boss in City of Tol Vir (spelling?) yesterday and I can easily kill him except his phase transition takes like 10 secs and my images disappear before I can get back to killing him.

edit: Im getting pretty good at clearing trash now and I actually suicide before bosses because I have to wait for Timewarp debuff to expire. =(

[beeq]

If I remember right, the pumpkin soldiers act exactly like mirror images.
(summoned with The Horseman's Baleful Blade)

I don't have those blades atm, but I think the mighty Faxmonkey demonstrated it on one of his "Stupid mage tricks"-videos.
If the pumpkins wipe your threat while they are up, then it opens doors for other dps classes as well.
(also awesome when you can switch weapons in mid-fight, so when images fade, drop your soldiers to keep aggro for another 30? seconds ^^)

The reason why I think 5 oomkins would not work is the fact that after the pull the boss is already on one of your toon's skin. Also I can't imagine even epic-geared boomkins do the similar dps than an arcanemage is capable of.
(dunno how treants threat work tbh)

Thumbs up Multibocks! My experiences on setup of five mages have been awesome, and still is! My other 5 mages are now 81, and starting to 10man stuff in near future, old content 10hc/25man stuff so let's see what adventures that small army can still achieve! ;)
Btw, I just leveled alchemy for guild cauldrons. Much cheaper to spend 4 flasks and some stuff on a cauldron, than drinking 10 flasks each hour. Especially when guild cauldron flasks last 2 hours, on an alchemist 4 hours ;)

[balderrdash]

I can say that these mages are the most fun I've had with WoW since first learned to box with my shammies. I'm only low seventies but when I blew up a boss in nexus in six seconds I almost had a heart attack.

[Cookiebo]

Do I need full heirloom gear to get this team working, while lvling? or is heirloom staff x 5.. okay?

[Akoko]

The heirlooms would probably help in equalizing the mages' aggro so the mobs will bounce between them. But I would forsee some hard hitting low-level bosses being difficult to down without multiple mage deaths because at those levels you don't have the important abilities like Mirror Image and Time Warp.

Even with 5 sturdy boomkins, I find myself having to shift out of form and heal very often in low level dungeons, and I can only imagine that while mages do a bit more DPS than boomkins, they are a ton squishier and most bosses would be immune to slows or CC.

[Cookiebo]

The heirlooms would probably help in equalizing the mages' aggro so the mobs will bounce between them. But I would forsee some hard hitting low-level bosses being difficult to down without multiple mage deaths because at those levels you don't have the important abilities like Mirror Image and Time Warp.

Even with 5 sturdy boomkins, I find myself having to shift out of form and heal very often in low level dungeons, and I can only imagine that while mages do a bit more DPS than boomkins, they are a ton squishier and most bosses would be immune to slows or CC.
ye okay.. maybe I should Q them up.. and BG.

[Starbuck_Jones]

This reminds me of my first 5 man group. 4 mages and a priest. They got to level 67-68 ish before I gave up on them in The Burning Crusade. Your math of 5.5 mill hp reminds me of the same math I calculated for my group. If it had xxx,xxx hp or less it was going to die, If it had more, then I was going to die. I got bored with the simple math game and went for the Paladin 4x druid team now 4x shaman team.

[Multibocks]

ye okay.. maybe I should Q them up.. and BG.

Yeah dont bother til you get mirror images. It's too many deaths to be worth it.

[Mokoi]

5x Boomkins will die fast.. you need mirror images.. but if you have 5 druids and want to do instances.. one bear one tree and 3 Boomkins should be fine. Slow, but fine.

[Lyonheart]

So what horde race..i cant pick goblins atm. will be a few weeks before i can buy 3x wrath. i have 3x Cata but cant get the wraths for a bit. sooo I'm stuck with bc and backward races. I like goblins for the perma extra haste and gadgetry feel to them.. being short is cool as well.. down the road i can race change if i feel the need.

So i was thinking Trolls have the burst of being able to add haste to their burn macro. Undead for PvP could be nice for WotF and BEs for ae interrupt. choices choices! I like them all.. so its hard to choose!

[Multibocks]

Trolls for the burst haste, but really when haste matters you are going to be using lust/hero and any more haste won't even take affect.

edit: tbh I would wait for goblins

[Lyonheart]

Trolls for the burst haste, but really when haste matters you are going to be using lust/hero and any more haste won't even take affect.

edit: tbh I would wait for goblins

i want too.. but with raf.. ill have a few teams to 80 by the time i can buy 3 wraths

[Kris1234]

Have you guys worked on a focus magic macro for your 5 mages?

Thought i'd ask before i go about sorting one out :)

[Quiding]

Have you guys worked on a focus magic macro for your 5 mages?

Thought i'd ask before i go about sorting one out :)

on CharA: /cast [@CharB] Focus Magic
on CharB: /cast [@CharC] Focus Magic
on CharC: /cast [@CharD] Focus Magic
on CharD: /cast [@CharE] Focus Magic
on CharE: /cast [@CharA] Focus Magic

Atleast thats how i do it :)

[Kris1234]

on CharA: /cast [@CharB] Focus Magic
on CharB: /cast [@CharC] Focus Magic
on CharC: /cast [@CharD] Focus Magic
on CharD: /cast [@CharE] Focus Magic
on CharE: /cast [@CharA] Focus Magic

Atleast thats how i do it :)

cheers, this will come in useful

[balderrdash]

I added Arcane Intellect after the Focus Magic cast so I didn't have to retarget, they've still got the targets locked and then I don't have to buy reagents.

[Kris1234]

I currently have this in isboxer, altho i would like it to be a bit more dynamic then it already is as i will add a 5th mage later on

!if (character is "slot 1" and character in "Class Mages Arcane") /castsequence [@{SLOT2}] Focus Magic, Molten Armor, Arcane Brilliance
!if (character is "slot 2" and character in "Class Mages Arcane") /castsequence [@{SLOT3}] Focus Magic, Molten Armor, Arcane Brilliance
!if (character is "slot 3" and character in "Class Mages Arcane") /castsequence [@{SLOT4}] Focus Magic, Molten Armor, Arcane Brilliance
!if (character is "slot 4" and character in "Class Mages Arcane") /castsequence [@{SLOT1}] Focus Magic, Molten Armor, Arcane Brilliance

EDIT:- made some changes. before you mention about molten armor im not yet lvl 68 to get mage armor :)

[Kris1234]

I added Arcane Intellect after the Focus Magic cast so I didn't have to retarget, they've still got the targets locked and then I don't have to buy reagents.

isnt that replaced with arcane brilliance now? and requiring no regent and applyed to all your party? or am i missing something

[Multibocks]

No you are correct, only one Mage needs to cast that.

[Cookiebo]

Should I lvl in arcane spec, frost or fire ? i got full heirlooms... ?

[Quiding]

I did 1-70 frost then went arcane in instances, and x5 arcane barrage at that lvl instant kills quest mobs

[Cookiebo]

I did 1-70 frost then went arcane in instances, and x5 arcane barrage at that lvl instant kills quest mobs
I been doing instance from lvl 15.. and 36 now.. but its abit hard sometime on bosses, because of mana..so were thinking frost or fire would be better?

[Kicksome]

I leveled my mages as frost from 1-85. It's nice to have ice barrier - and frost has a lot more survival. I did not run any instances though, all questing or BGs till 85.

[balderrdash]

I just checked on Wowhead, apparently I've had Arcane Brilliance since 58 or so and never noticed . . . I wonder if I missed anything else important! I haven't had a mage in a few years since it used to be my main so I just figured I'd notice a reagent cost.

[Multibocks]

I really enjoyed leveling as arcane. You hit so hard nothing has a chance and soon as you hit 51 you can take out any dungeon boss of appropriate level.

[Cookiebo]

almost dinged 38.. so far only boss I cant kill is the one in Scarlet M. ( armory) He hits damn hard.. the rest is easy..
The 5x sheep macro setup, were ALOT easier then I would think of.

Some time ago, I found some awesome mage macro´s here on this forums, but cant find them now.. damn.

[Quiding]

Dinged 85 a few days back, and i've been farming BoT trash since, got about 10epics so far, not much but okay.
Im kinda confused though, I've only been able to down 3 bosses in HCs yet, first bose in SFK, first boss in Stonecore, first boss in DM.
I mean should I be able to take down whole stonecore or any other instances for that matter?
If so i must be doing something wrong. im not sure what though.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Q%C3%BAiding/simple

[balderrdash]

Quick mage question since I don't see a real definitive answer on elitestjerks or wowhead through a perusal. What controls sheep breaking in PVE instances? I think spell penetration is only PVP, so is it hit chance? If I have 0% chance to miss an even level target and it's still breaking super fast it must be something else (speaking of trash in raid zones that's even level, and the packs towards the back end of VP).

I just hit 85 yesterday on my mages and am having a grand time otherwise.

[death]

Quick mage question since I don't see a real definitive answer on elitestjerks or wowhead through a perusal. What controls sheep breaking in PVE instances? I think spell penetration is only PVP, so is it hit chance? If I have 0% chance to miss an even level target and it's still breaking super fast it must be something else (speaking of trash in raid zones that's even level, and the packs towards the back end of VP).

I just hit 85 yesterday on my mages and am having a grand time otherwise.

Hit chance or could be immune to sheeeping

[Cookiebo]

what spec are u runing with in Bgs? atm im running arcane, but im thinking fire would be good?

[Lyonheart]

what spec are u runing with in Bgs? atm im running arcane, but im thinking fire would be good?


Solo mages play frost in PvP

[Cookiebo]

Solo mages play frost in PvP

what about 5x mages? - also frost?

[Lyonheart]

what about 5x mages? - also frost?

If you know how to play a solo Frost well.. I'm sure 5 would be that much better. its all about control and big ice lance crits! I have not played one, I just know some really good ones in my guild, so you might have to study up a tad. When i get my mages to 85.. ill know more 8)

[Quiding]

Quick mage question since I don't see a real definitive answer on elitestjerks or wowhead through a perusal. What controls sheep breaking in PVE instances? I think spell penetration is only PVP, so is it hit chance? If I have 0% chance to miss an even level target and it's still breaking super fast it must be something else (speaking of trash in raid zones that's even level, and the packs towards the back end of VP).

I just hit 85 yesterday on my mages and am having a grand time otherwise.

Be sure you're not using
http://www.wowhead.com/item=63839 (http://www.wowhead.com/item=63839)
It proc on sheep, and yes cost me a few wipes on BoT trash lol, worst mage trinket ever

[balderrdash]

Hey that's my off trinket, damn. Thanks for the tip it was making me nuts.

[balderrdash]

Darkmoon cards all around.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I cannot see anything but fire for pvp.

Isnt the 5 yard extra range on Scorch (and zero mana cost) worth the 1.5 casting time as both can be cast on the run?

And 5 living bombs on a target ....

I just can't see see anything but fire .....

[pinki104]

so when doing pve how do i get the clones to tank ? is there a /petattack for them or something because otherwise i cant see the mobs attacking anyone but my other chars

also how do you setup the sheeping so you can sheep all the pack apart from one

[Cookiebo]

so when doing pve how do i get the clones to tank ? is there a /petattack for them or something because otherwise i cant see the mobs attacking anyone but my other chars

also how do you setup the sheeping so you can sheep all the pack apart from one

I only use image on bosses.. since you just sheep adds on pulls.. they auto attack.
To the sheep questing, just search after Sheep focus, i think you will find it, very easy to setup.

updatet: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=44359 second post.

[Fat Tire]

My question is this....

If blizzard ever decided to change mages what would kill this setup? Mirror image?

I gotta say looks like a ton of fun. It reminds me alot of how 5 ele could zerg an instance down back in the day.

[Cookiebo]

My question is this....

If blizzard ever decided to change mages what would kill this setup? Mirror image?

I gotta say looks like a ton of fun. It reminds me alot of how 5 ele could zerg an instance down back in the day.

Mirror image is a must i think..but still without it, would be fun in bgs.

[pinki104]

ty for info on sheeping .

[Multibocks]

My question is this....

If blizzard ever decided to change mages what would kill this setup? Mirror image?

I gotta say looks like a ton of fun. It reminds me alot of how 5 ele could zerg an instance down back in the day.

Yes without mirror image all bosses would be impossible except for low health ones like Corobus.

[Littleburst]

I cannot see anything but fire for pvp.

Isnt the 5 yard extra range on Scorch (and zero mana cost) worth the 1.5 casting time as both can be cast on the run?

And 5 living bombs on a target ....

I just can't see see anything but fire .....

Exept that it's useless to be able to run while dpsing. The only way that's usefull is when someone is running away. If someone is, you allready won.

Since I had my shaman, I really don't see any use in the "Lightning bolt while running." Nothing major atleast.

[Multibocks]

You can do IWT and just LB spam them. Sounds funny for elementals to be in there meleeing like that.

[Sam DeathWalker]

You have to be moving all the time in pvp. Gonna stand in the dk thing or in a mage blizzard? Boxers are weak against aoe attacks and getting away from them asap is critical, thus dpsing while moving seems to be to be most important.

Plus you are able to get closer to whereever you are going or to whatever objective, or you can run away. Sometimes you can stay still and be effective but seems to me moving and dpsing is a big advantage.

Ok what about 5 living bombs on your oppenents ... Plus you hit them (40 yard fire range) before they hit you, first hit with mages in pvp (given they are offensive and little defensive) is big plus.

[Toned]

Why haven't people brought up orcs for the bonus spell power :)

[Multibocks]

How much is it?

[Cookiebo]

isthe the haste buff better ?

[Multibocks]

Haste buff won't matter when you are using hero/lust. You are global CD limited with 15% haste and lust, which is pretty easy to achieve.

[pinki104]

dont you lose out on alot of marks ect due to not being able to use dungeon finder

[MiRai]

dont you lose out on alot of marks ect due to not being able to use dungeon finder
But you make up for it with millions of gold by farming raid trash and getting epics. :)

[Tonuss]

How much is it?
584 at level 85 (or 1169 attack power). The downside is that it doesn't scale with anything but level, so over time it becomes a smaller and smaller bonus, percentage-wise. But it's extra damage on a timer without taking up a gear slot.

[Nikita]

You can do IWT and just LB spam them. Sounds funny for elementals to be in there meleeing like that.

Ive won arena fights cus of this! Its really fun to watch and makes the melee not able to hit me since im sometimes behind them!

[pinki104]

do you get better drops from doing heroics or is it best just to do the raid trash constantly because if the raid trash is better it mite be worth boxing 10 mages or 5 mages and another team you have there aswell

[pinki104]

just about to hit 85 on my mages now, which heroics can be done easy with just a few epics

[beeq]

I'm happy to see lots of mage teams running around now :)

I have got several questions about "what now?" when people ding their teams to 85, and they're looking forward to access Bastion of Twilight and Firelands epics.

There is no superfast way to do this.

When I dinged my mages to 85, my item levels were like 285-300 on each mage (gear from quest rewards). Then I moved to non-heroic Cata dungeons for 333 loot off from the bosses. Then I started to grind reputations up with some factions with 359 exalted rewards. I equipped faction tabards and farmed mostly in The Lost City of Tol'vir heroic for world drop epics and for the faction reputation. I did this quite a long time (a month or so) before I entered TBoT10 just for the lulz and my goal was just to kill one mob and hoping he had an epic on his loot table..

TBoT10 trash as low geared (300-333) is not fast. I used to farm 4 first mobs in that instance. I used to sheep melee, healer and hunter and then bursted down the one mob which can't be sheeped (with mirror images tanking). When the first mob was dead, I waited for mirror images cooldown while kept the other 3 mobs sheeped, then nuked down the healer one while interrupting their spells (round-robin counterspell), then waited mirror images cooldown again and bursted down the melee one (mirror images tanking him as well).. Then there was only the Twilight Crossfire ranged mob left, I used invisibility on all toons, and the trash pack respawned and I did all of this again, and again, and again..

Later I realized that I don't have to wait the mirror images cooldown, just needed to have round-robin on frost nova and talented cone of cold, so I could root the rootable mobs while nuking them and rerooting and they never reached my team.. So there I farmed some 359 weapons and gear for my little soldiers.. and each epic I got, the easier the job was..

If you can afford leveling like 5 engineers, then I'd suggest doing that for the 359 helm, since it's pure awesome.

Head: Lightweight Bio-Optic Killshades (Engineering)
Neck: Nightweaver's Amulet (Firelands dailies)
Shoulders: Jan'alari's Spaulders (Jan'alai heroic drop in ZA, not easy, better to farm 346 hc shoulders)
Cape: Rippling Flamewrath Drape (Firelands dailies)
Chest: Firelord's Robes (Justice Points)
Bracers: Bracers of the Dark Pool (Bastion of Twilight drop, 359 BoE)
Hands: Firelord's Gloves (Justice Points)
Belt: Embereye Belt (Firelands reputation - Honored, or tailoring 359 BoE ones)
Pants: Firelord's Leggings (Justice Pointsm or tailoring 359 BoE ones)
Feet: Desert Walker Sandals (Ramkahen - Exalted)
Ring1: Band of Secret Names (Justice Points)
Ring2: Lavishly Jeweled Ring (Deadmines heroic boss drop, need a real party for last boss)
Trinket1: Darkmoon Card: Volcano (crafted 359 BoE)
Trinket2: Soul Casket (Justice Points)
Weapon: Spire of Scarlet Pain (FL trash, also tBoT10 trash drops 359 staves)
Wand: Touch of Discord (ZG heroic bosses)

So here's something to aim for. If you feel like farming Justice Points or Baradin Hold or just gold, that's one sort of shortcut. If you ding 85 and got 275-300 item level, and you want to go cata heroics for 346 loot right away, I'm afraid that's not gonna happen like that.

Better to spend some gold on (crafted) BoE 359 stuff.

Also remember to cap your hit to 6% and haste to around 15%, because that's all you going to need.

[Lyonheart]

thx Runtu! It looks like the lvl 85 normal mode bosses drop JPs when you kill them. Since i have a tank and healer on a separate account, i made two teams of tank..healer and 3 mages ( i have 6 mages now ) I think I will farm normal mode bosses and get JP items as fast as I can. And do FL dailies.

[Shodokan]

Any strats for 5 boxing the trash in FL?

[Kicksome]

Any strats for 5 boxing the trash in FL?

With 5 Mages at least, you can bypass the first giant, just go by him on the left, no need to invis.

Go up to that root on the ground on the left of sorta a arch shape. Stand to the right of it.

Sheep the pack of the lizard guys when the pat close to you.

Kill them all, one at a time, except for one. If you get a bad dot on you, just iceblock. Loot the 4 dead. Go back to the root thing, invis, when the pack resets, sheep the main guy with the most hitpoints again (this will stop the pat), then sheep the 4 others, loot, repeat!

I do this on my 10 mages in 25 man mode, where the pat is 10. Just to minimize the invis downtime.

[Shodokan]

With 5 Mages at least, you can bypass the first giant, just go by him on the left, no need to invis.

Go up to that root on the ground on the left of sorta a arch shape. Stand to the right of it.

Sheep the pack of the lizard guys when the pat close to you.

Kill them all, one at a time, except for one. If you get a bad dot on you, just iceblock. Loot the 4 dead. Go back to the root thing, invis, when the pack resets, sheep the main guy with the most hitpoints again (this will stop the pat), then sheep the 4 others, loot, repeat!

I do this on my 10 mages in 25 man mode, where the pat is 10. Just to minimize the invis downtime.

Is it even worth the time leveling a group to do 10 man with 5?

[Kicksome]

Is it even worth the time leveling a group to do 10 man with 5?

I like my mages a lot actually. Only second to my DK team. I can bring 3-4 to BH and they do like 23k DPS, it's nuts. So much more dps than any other class I have with the same gear.

You can also farm BoT, do BGs - which is pretty fun, but not as good as the DKs. So I love then, it's a great team for when you're bored.

[Shodokan]

I like my mages a lot actually. Only second to my DK team. I can bring 3-4 to BH and they do like 23k DPS, it's nuts. So much more dps than any other class I have with the same gear.

You can also farm BoT, do BGs - which is pretty fun, but not as good as the DKs. So I love then, it's a great team for when you're bored.

But is the farming aspect worth it? BoT trash doesn't interest me unless i have 10 mages really >_> Too little gph

[ebony]

i just started mages from my change of heart from warlocks

Warlocks do have the same as MI with there two cooldown pets they drop argo as well but 10mins cooldown would take dungeons and there not as good dps as the mages but u get sort of tanking pets to week to do a lot with at 85. kinda stucks

atm am level 20 just cleaned out deadmins really fast (posting video soon) then tryed SFK but that place is nuts! no CC as its all undead makes trash a pain and the bosses hit like being hit by a trunk at 100mph

like to see what there going to offer to me though.

[Lyonheart]

I have had bad luck with 10 man FL trash ( the Naga pack of 5 ) last few times i have been there. I will keep gearing up my mages though. If you get lucky and get an epic or two.. its worth it. They are selling for more now since the nerf to the trash. ( or buff rather, cant snare some mobs )

The best thing is, I'm sure future raid trash will be doable as well. Next time ill be ready when a patch goes live and the loot is dropping like candy. ( before they nerf the drop rate )

[Quiding]

Hmm, on Grim Batol the armor pieces only go for 2-5k each and have only gone down lower since i started farming :(
The weapons/trinkets still sells pretty nice tho 15k+, I guess I'll keep grinding untill i reach my goal of 2m :P

I'll also be ready for next raid patch :P, if farmable it'll give good :)

[Lyonheart]

Hmm, on Grim Batol the armor pieces only go for 2-5k each and have only gone down lower since i started farming :(
The weapons/trinkets still sells pretty nice tho 15k+, I guess I'll keep grinding untill i reach my goal of 2m :P

I'll also be ready for next raid patch :P, if farmable it'll give good :)


You farming 10man trash? The Nagas? or all of it? I have not got an epic to drop in days ( about 2 hours a day )

[Quiding]

You farming 10man trash? The Nagas? or all of it? I have not got an epic to drop in days ( about 2 hours a day )

Ye im just farming 10man the nagas, I've had a few lucky hrs with alot of drops I guess :)

[Machoclown]

Started a 5 Mages group too!. 5 * Sheep is hilarious :)
I want to level trough dungeons. BTW this is my first Mage group ever.
Anyone knows which dungeons I can run? (for Sheeping), as far I understand is to avoid zombie/skeletons/etc dungeons.
level = 22 now and I can't wait to hit 50 for Mirror Imaging that will be a blast especially with bosses.
Thanks for all the tips and hints in this threat!

[ebony]

Started a 5 Mages group too!. 5 * Sheep is hilarious :)
I want to level trough dungeons. BTW this is my first Mage group ever.
Anyone knows which dungeons I can run? (for Sheeping), as far I understand is to avoid zombie/skeletons/etc dungeons.
level = 22 now and I can't wait to hit 50 for Mirror Imaging that will be a blast especially with bosses.
Thanks for all the tips and hints in this threat!

i maged to do Deamines easy stockadis with a few wipes. SM Glav and SM lib the other 2 sm's the bossess hit to hard.

i mabged to do SFK but it was pain and took to long would of been faster questing after 30 i just did Questing at 45 i ran AV/questing and am back to dungons @ 60 the time to get to the dungons that fact some bossess hit to hard for the dps i doing i waited. just taking to much time. i was levelling in 40 mins on quest took a good hour for a dungeon for 50% xp.

i did dungeons in arcane
fire for av % questing after U get about 50 the aoe dmg makes questing very fast.

have fun!

[Machoclown]

i maged to do Deamines easy stockadis with a few wipes. SM Glav and SM lib the other 2 sm's the bossess hit to hard.

i mabged to do SFK but it was pain and took to long would of been faster questing after 30 i just did Questing at 45 i ran AV/questing and am back to dungons @ 60 the time to get to the dungons that fact some bossess hit to hard for the dps i doing i waited. just taking to much time. i was levelling in 40 mins on quest took a good hour for a dungeon for 50% xp.

i did dungeons in arcane
fire for av % questing after U get about 50 the aoe dmg makes questing very fast.

have fun!

Your right, Dungeon trash is very easy, with sheeping etc. But melee hitting bossess at par level are too hard to kill right now. I really need Mirror Images for that I guess. But still very much fun to play 5 mages though. So far I did Dead Mines and Wailing Caverns. Gonna try Blackphanton Deeps now and later Gnomer I still want to try dungeons for leveling if it's too hard I will do quests till level 50 for the mirror images :).

Edit: I just completed BFD and killed Aku'mai with 3 mages survived. A big dungeon bonus for the guild an a proud feeling!

[Machoclown]

Level 44 now, gear is from quests and dungeon boss drops. Doing a mixture of quests and dungeons.
Almost did all 4 of the SM dungeons. but coulnd defeat the 3th Boss Herod. But the other 3 portion of the instance where noo that hard.(Sheeping a lot) Just did Uldaman and still going strong. Defeated the last boss with 4 mages still standing :)
I have so much fun with the mages and now going for the Dire Maul instances!
I can't wait for the Mirror Images. :)

[Noids]

Does boosting with an 85 pally or other aoe toon still work? Just wondering if it's worth doing this until mirror images kick in...

[johny_mnemonic]

I have boosted with lvl 85 demo warlock, and I didnt find any other faster class, just run with hellfire on and let the demon finish mobs.

most runs took <12 mins, so it is perfect for limit per hour

[Ashley]

I personally prefer the low mana cost of the instant flame strike a fire mage can pump out.

It's beast for boosting, just do the AOE thingy on the pack of mobs with 0 cast time and run to the next pack and do the same.

DON'T STOP TILL BAWSS.

[johny_mnemonic]

I found that I prefer the warlock style "fire and forget" ie cast hellfire and just run toward the end of instance

[Pallarfo]

I've also created a bunch of mages (5), full with heirlooms (guild/sponsored from other chars).
Having a blast, hit 58 and went into Hellfire Ramparts right away, first boss and endboss are pretty easy.
Tried drake boss once, but failed and didnt bother again with him.
It's amazing, who needs a tank and healer so far :)