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MiRai
06-17-2011, 01:06 AM
PHASE 1: Better yourself. Spread the message. Be the message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTQvEQVv_WM

Littleburst
06-17-2011, 07:02 AM
Right.

I wonder how much action this is going to give. I skipped half the video, rather annoying listening to that auto-voice thing.

MiRai
06-17-2011, 05:00 PM
Right.

I wonder how much action this is going to give. I skipped half the video, rather annoying listening to that auto-voice thing.
Sorry you hated it. I was just doing my part.

Littleburst
06-19-2011, 10:09 AM
Sorry you hated it. I was just doing my part.

Oh, sorry for a shallow reply :)

I don't hate at all and everyone should (almost) post what they like. It just seems like a new hype and I'm honestly curious how far it's going to kick it. I skipped half of it since like said, besides that I got the general point of the video. The postive energy in it is something that can't hurt eitherway.

F9thRet
06-19-2011, 11:38 AM
I knew there was a reason I liked Fenril, but sadly I am to jaded, too cynical to get to excited. Heck, I decided years ago to remove myself from the same problems mentioned in the video, and am Probably so far to the right, as being an anarchist myself.

Do they have my support? at least moral support right now.but I have seen measures like this come and go far too often, and unless they can resurrect Madison himself for their cause, I see a lot of pain and hardship for them down the road.

I do tend to over think things at times, and I do believe that failing to acknowledge each other as say in my case, Americans, as opposed to how it is now, where we are separated by social class, religion, Economic status, etc. etc. has done nothing but fullfill the separate and conquer tactics once used on the battlefield.

I have often said, if our leaders had any honor at all, they would fall on their own swords for the damage that they have done.

Anyways, sorry for the thread psuedo-hijack, I do like the video, but I just don't have much faith in the group yet.It's a wait and see thing for me.

Stephen

Mercurio
06-19-2011, 11:49 AM
I didn't get it.

Lots of flowery and imprecise language about how we are being oppressed and the how the system is working to manipulate us. Then telling us we need to come together and spread the message and eliminate oppression.

Unfortunately, there is no "there" there. There is no message. "If you feel as we feel, if you see what we see, join us". Join what? Do what?

The only specifics they said was to start growing your own produce and invest your money in gold.

Really?

Give me a real message that I can think about and determine if it is true or it if isn't, then commit myself fully, be a mild supporter, or reject it utterly.

This is like politician-speak taken to its natural limit: I get a vague feeling that something they said sounds sort of good, but what the heck did they say?

F9thRet
06-19-2011, 12:18 PM
Mercurio raises a good point. It does sound an awful lot like newspeak. (Orwell's works for those who are unfamiliar.)

I suppose I read into it more than I should have, as I see a lot of attempts at control from the government here. On the right, control of the bedroom, on the left, control of food. No offense to anyone here of course. I just view the last 40 years or so, as a massive power grab here in my country.

Stephen

F9thRet
06-19-2011, 12:35 PM
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/1965j.jpg/

I know I chuckled.

Stephen

MiRai
06-19-2011, 12:41 PM
Well, they have more videos on that channel than just that one. Here's another that pertains to Americans but
if you can't stand the Microsoft Sam voice then I don't know what to say; perhaps you should lend them a hand
in narrating their videos. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgE0NknFnNQ

Another nice one to spread around would be this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOCJ68Oxheo

Ualaa
06-19-2011, 01:42 PM
Historically, gold has not been much of an investment.
It has been a phenomenal hedge against inflation.

An ounce of gold buys as many loafs of bread today, as it did in biblical times.

EaTCarbS
06-19-2011, 07:16 PM
Unfortunately, Anonymous has a history of not being able to do much of anything.

drarkan
06-19-2011, 10:45 PM
I think since the movie V for Vendetta, groups like Anonymous try to duplicate in part of what happened in the movie to inspire change. Change takes a long time to happen as there are billions of people in the world, that to accomplish much of anything takes a lot of promoting and action. Hijack the TV stations, that's a start! Sorry to say its probably not as easy as it was in the movie, nor does anyone have the guts to do that.

After what I saw last Wednesday the 15th, my city was burning cause a bunch of morons decided to beat people up, burn cars, loot department stores just cause they had an opportunity to rouse a huge crowd and steal from people and businesses. The cops didn't want to be too aggressive when thats the time to show aggression. A person in the airport throws chairs around and he gets killed, a couple thousand looters smash windows, steal products from stores, and beat people up, get canisters of pepper-gas. 150 or so get arrested while police were fought against and why? A group of idiots saw an opportunity at the hockey game. Well its said that it was planned well in advance and the actual rioting started before the 4th goal was made. Police took 30 mins to put their riot gear on cause they didn't want to instigate the crowd into a riot because of their attire thinking the police are overreacting. Hell I say they should have had half the force waiting in cars just down the street ready to lay some whoop ass!

Starbuck_Jones
06-20-2011, 02:14 AM
Historically, gold has not been much of an investment.
It has been a phenomenal hedge against inflation.

An ounce of gold buys as many loafs of bread today, as it did in biblical times.



You can't eat gold.

Umbaalo
06-20-2011, 02:55 AM
You can't eat gold.

Very true, but there are plenty of self conscious schmucks that are so hung up on image or status that are willing to go to great lengths to trade reasonable amounts of any good for it. But in the end, it is still like the dollar in that it's only worth what the buyer thinks it is worth. Then again, gold can be used in industry or jewelcrafting... Paper money when it boils down to it's material value is kindling for a fire.

/psychobabble off (time for bed, lol)

Littleburst
06-20-2011, 06:27 AM
I think since the movie V for Vendetta, groups like Anonymous try to duplicate in part of what happened in the movie to inspire change. Change takes a long time to happen as there are billions of people in the world, that to accomplish much of anything takes a lot of promoting and action. Hijack the TV stations, that's a start! Sorry to say its probably not as easy as it was in the movie, nor does anyone have the guts to do that.

After what I saw last Wednesday the 15th, my city was burning cause a bunch of morons decided to beat people up, burn cars, loot department stores just cause they had an opportunity to rouse a huge crowd and steal from people and businesses. The cops didn't want to be too aggressive when thats the time to show aggression. A person in the airport throws chairs around and he gets killed, a couple thousand looters smash windows, steal products from stores, and beat people up, get canisters of pepper-gas. 150 or so get arrested while police were fought against and why? A group of idiots saw an opportunity at the hockey game. Well its said that it was planned well in advance and the actual rioting started before the 4th goal was made. Police took 30 mins to put their riot gear on cause they didn't want to instigate the crowd into a riot because of their attire thinking the police are overreacting. Hell I say they should have had half the force waiting in cars just down the street ready to lay some whoop ass!

And then people claim we're on the top of the evolution chain, right? :D
It amazes me how brainless/selfish people can act. Let's 'change' that.

Ualaa
06-20-2011, 08:58 PM
You can't eat gold.

I never said to eat the gold.
Just that it has had about the same amount of purchasing power over history.

You wouldn't have eaten the gold in biblical times.
And you won't be eating the gold in modern times.
However, in either time (or virtually and date in between), you could purchase close to the same amount of bread.
So while a countries currency might go up or down, gold retains its relative value.