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Knytestorme
06-08-2011, 12:24 AM
Have been toying with the idea of running DK's with a friend healing and thought this might work, tell me what you think



Most of you may not use focus macros because it is difficult to actually use. If you do not have a naga... get one as they help so much with abilities you don't really use a lot or aren't super reaction dependent. That being said i will list keymaps and what they do, give a little explanation on how to fight some teams and thats about it.

Top of keyboard numbers
1= howling blast + necrotic spam (hb > frost strike > necrotic > frost > necrotic)
2= obliterate spam (obliterate x 2, frost strike x 2 + hungering cold spam)
3 = necrotic spam (2x necrotic, 2x frost strike)
4 = death strike spam (2x death strike, 2x frost strike)
5= deathgrip focus
6 = anti-magic shell
7 = trinket
= = horn of winter

Other binds
f = chains (w/ modifier for focus)
shift + 1 = lichborne
shift + 4 = pet sac
shift + 3 = focus silence
shift + 2 = icebound fort
ctrl + a = blood boil (for rogues)
ctrl + s = all put dnd down (for rogues)
ctrl + d = put dnd down 1 at a time (for multiple stealth teams)
ctrl + z = outbreak
3 buttons for heal self with death coil

Naga
shift + 1 (end) = silence focus
1-5 = target arena 1-5, set focus, clear target
6 = hungering cold round robin with no down do not go forward for X seconds.
7 = trinket
8 = burst
9 = death strike spam + lichborne + pet sac + heal self with death coils
10 = same as above but no death strike it just uses necrotic and hb (if you only really need the pet sac)
11 = dk 1+3 assist + focus X target
12 = dk 2+4 assist + focus Y target

3v3 strats i use
1: stack necrotic on any healer that is not a paladin, call for a hammer once it is at about 40% pop burst and use oblit spam (unless boped by a ret paladin)
2: make sure to pop ams against any caster team up front while you are on the target, if you are facing a mage make sure to grip it into you so that it has to run away to be safe from HB spam
3: when fighting rogues make sure you hand of sac on paladin incase they try to sap him opposed to a dk... you have your AOE abilities for that
3: any team with a hunter can be killed simply by sitting on the hunter, putting focus as the healer so you get strangs off on it, have the hunter hammered at around 40% as well, it wont live unless you get massive CC'd/it pops trinket to use detterence...if it does that go on the healer immediately
4: if a warrior pops recklessness switch to it immediately and kill it (they cannot heal through your damage + 25%), you will kill them even through shieldwall
5: any druid healer team or boomkin team the druid dies first... period.
6: if you run into a TSG sit on the warrior, focus grip the paladin in and hard switch to make bubble, peel off your healer with chains and have him freedom + AOE heal to run away behind a pillar... after bubble is down sit on the paladin till dead UNLESS warrior pops reck then kill him, if it is warrior + dk + any other healer just rape the healer.
7: against double warrior + 3rd dps... you lose unless your healer can hand of sac + bop one of your dudes and you spam your defensive cooldowns ASAP, if they pop reck outside of bladestorm it is a win, if they both charge + reck + bladestorm you lose.
8: Any team with a priest make sure the priest is always within range so you can grip them before they mindcontrol your healer (if hes off in the distance)
9: dk + rogue + disc priest... SIT ON THE DISC PRIEST AND SPAM NECROTIC + BURST + NECROTIC AGAIN, if they survive longer than 15 seconds game is over because of smokebomb + blind + cc from dk.
10: don't be afraid of when your healer gets CC'd, save your lichborne until you can use it for defensive UNLESS you are killing a disc priest.

Keep in mind you are a hard counter to aids (lsdv2) and a few other comps. If you play against another double dk team just focus down a dk and laugh because you are better coordinated than them.

5v5
1: druid healers die first
2: hunter + hammer like in 3's
3: warrior pops reck against 4 dks he is dead period even through tripple healer.
4: ret paladins need to be made to bubble ASAP
5: do not grip them all in at once, that tactic doesn't work... simply focus down one healer while the other gets silences through the split focus system
6: paladin healers should be gripped in, then hard switch to something else, they just need to take flack damage to make them feel pressured and waste some sort of cooldown
7: if you play against a skilled RMPLS you will lose unless you get both healers down within the first 25ish seconds.
8: dispels are as important as healing, don't forget to dispel shit you know can be dispelled
9: flack damage is important...the more targets you can hit the better...you need to oom their healers a lot of the time.
10: save at least one hungering cold for peeling off of your healer
11: chains of ice is awesome, especially against druids and huntards
12: warlocks are the squishiest class in the game, they have zero defensive cooldowns... if they have a lock and no paladin healer silence both of their healers and kill it right off the bat.
13: make sure to try to make their shadowpriest use their dispersion relatively quickly.

Danger list:
Warrior > ret paladin> shadow priest > hunter> rogue > dk > rest

Anything that can get rid of bubble needs to die, FAST... thats the goal of playing anything with warrior/disc or warrior/shadow... kill the warrior or priest (to make warrior recklessness and switch)

Ualaa
06-08-2011, 01:15 AM
If its working for Shodokan (to 2000+), it should work for you too.
That's assuming you have equal reaction time, equal vision to notice what is going on around you, etc.

Worst case scenario, it is a good place to start.

Noids
06-08-2011, 03:11 AM
Rofl. That is fken hilarious mate. When I saw that he had taken his post down I was pissed that I hadn't copied it so I could just repost it too. +1 internets to u ;)

Toned
06-08-2011, 03:35 AM
Lol

Svpernova09
06-08-2011, 09:07 AM
There's a lesson to be learned here...


I'm not sure if it's the "I'm not the only sarcastic asshole here" lesson, or the "Don't piss off an entire community and then ragequit like a 12 year old" lesson.


For those that may not get the reference: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?p=336258#post336258

Kruschpakx4
06-08-2011, 09:09 AM
Thanks for posting yo!

Ashley
06-08-2011, 09:11 AM
Half of these tips will be redundant in 4.2 anyway so GG.

Poyzon
06-08-2011, 09:17 AM
<Removed until stuff gets taken care of>

Kruschpakx4
06-08-2011, 09:22 AM
<Removed until stuff gets taken care of>

http://memedepot.com/uploads/1000/1256_a9qbm.jpg

Fat Tire
06-08-2011, 09:25 AM
Let me just say that anyone can get atleast 2200 in 2s,3s or 5s atm boxing or not with the current mmr exploit. Where your mmr is around 3000 and never moves, usually people dont set it that high but you can. Play as many games as you want you will only go up. You can still google it I believe. I hope no one takes arena or wow in general seriously because its beyond stupid with as many bugs/exploits/cheats within the game.

Edit: Shodokan I laugh at joo. No one owes you anything. You never post self congratulatory threads, ever. The only people who care are the ones who want to copy you and they usually want a guide(snap!). Personally looking at one of those screenshots it doesnt look right, so I think they tanked or you paid, either way though I dont care. Hopefully you play for yourself now instead of trying to be cool in a video game on the internet.

Khatovar
06-08-2011, 09:30 AM
Arena and WoW iz syrius biznisiz. Forums is sooper syrius.

/hissyfit

Fat Tire
06-08-2011, 09:51 AM
Arena and WoW iz syrius biznisiz. Forums is sooper syrius.

/hissyfit

damz modz be trollin

/needz mors coffezs

ebony
06-08-2011, 10:25 AM
epic post

i find arena a pain in the back sometimes i find 2 groups thats win tradeing in 5v5 both groups i can roll over & over and manged to get my rateing to 1695 before they quit (or got there cap) then find other groups where the group sould be like 2220 and there got a MMR of 1300 and are so good not going to kill them whatever i try i look them look them up on armey and there 3v3 group is like 2400 this system is so bugged its crazy (players allways leave as well thats infact a bug if it silly works)

just to make stuff worse blizzard are not reseting the MMR at the end of the season,

Vecter
06-08-2011, 10:27 AM
Have been toying with the idea of running DK's with a friend healing and thought this might work, tell me what you think

That my friend is awesome!! Thank you SO much for posting this. I am going to try it out straight away. Love it when people contribute to the community!!

Toned
06-08-2011, 07:28 PM
LOL Omg I missed all this drama. I wasn't even aware of this: (I was just browsing new posts I am clearly a couple days off. I saw that he rage quit but didn't know why.)

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php?p=336277&postcount=26

He PM'd me YOU STOLE MY 3s TEAM NAME!.
(This was before his PvP post went up I wasn't even aware of it till I saw the thread locked and had to read Svpernova's smartass remark. I knew there was one in there.)

I replied... I've been trying different setups trying different healers / strats for myself / etc... and I've tanked ratings and remade. I got sick of DKCleave (my team name from 5s), and JewishMonkeyCleave / PinkPandaAnusCleave/ Etc... any random fucked up name I can think of when I make a 3s team for the lols. So, to be funny I ganked HerpDerpCleave (it was on arenajunkies before too sorry to say.), but I told him I'd change it if he wanted. I had no idea I was part of this epic drama... amazing.

I was also 1950-1980 range in 3s (ptspls) and 5s (DKCleave) with my own setup and stuff I posted. That I'm still using and have pretty much posted (see my signature), and he accused me of stealing his UBR SECRET INFOS on a high populated battlegroup. Epic Lols.

Knytestorme
06-08-2011, 10:11 PM
That my friend is awesome!! Thank you SO much for posting this. I am going to try it out straight away. Love it when people contribute to the community!!

Thanks man, means soooooo much to me when people thank me for posting something, increases my self-worth immensely :D

And yeah, pretty much both of those Svper, when it comes to that pos(t)er at least :D

MiRai
06-08-2011, 10:29 PM
Thanks man, means soooooo much to me when people thank me for posting something, increases my self-worth immensely :D

And yeah, pretty much both of those Svper, when it comes to that pos(t)er at least :D
Let me one-up Vecter's grateful post and offer to send you cold, hard, wet, sloppy, cash through PayPal for
your efforts here on this forum. If not for your endless knowledge and exceptional wisdom we would still be
alt-tabbing between screens in this day and age. What would we do without you?

I /salute thee, Knytestorme of Dual-Boxing.com, and I pray that you continue to enlighten us as we strive to
embrace and live in your shadow.

Toned
06-08-2011, 11:22 PM
I <3 Knytestorme cock

New bumper sticker in before it goes viral.

Knytestorme
06-09-2011, 12:11 AM
I <3 Knytestorme cock

New bumper sticker in before it goes viral.

hahahahahah god had me laughing for a bit here at the office. I need to find out how to make bumper-stickers now

Mokoi
06-09-2011, 01:19 AM
Let me just say that anyone can get atleast 2200 in 2s,3s or 5s atm boxing or not with the current mmr exploit. Where your mmr is around 3000 and never moves, usually people dont set it that high but you can. Play as many games as you want you will only go up. You can still google it I believe.

Ummm.. they hot fixed this early season 9, I believe.. or is it a different MMR bug.

Kruschpakx4
06-09-2011, 01:27 AM
Ummm.. they hot fixed this early season 9, I believe.. or is it a different MMR bug.

http://www.arenajunkies.com/team/3v3/kr/%EC%95%84%EC%A6%88%EC%83%A4%EB%9D%BC/552334-%EA%B7%B8%EB%9D%BC%ED%8B%B0%EC%8A%A4%EA%B0%80-%ED%9D%89%ED%8F%AC%EA%B2%80%EC%9D%84-%EB%8B%AC%EA%B2%8C-%ED%95%A0-%EC%88%9C-%EC%97%86%EC%A7%80-%ED%83%80%ED%95%AB/

working as intended

Mokoi
06-09-2011, 01:36 AM
http://www.arenajunkies.com/team/3v3/kr/%EC%95%84%EC%A6%88%EC%83%A4%EB%9D%BC/552334-%EA%B7%B8%EB%9D%BC%ED%8B%B0%EC%8A%A4%EA%B0%80-%ED%9D%89%ED%8F%AC%EA%B2%80%EC%9D%84-%EB%8B%AC%EA%B2%8C-%ED%95%A0-%EC%88%9C-%EC%97%86%EC%A7%80-%ED%83%80%ED%95%AB/

working as intended


OK, I guess, but i thought they hotfixed the "leave the game" exploit a long time ago..

Negativ1337
06-09-2011, 03:57 AM
Haha thats awesome

Loved your post in the Shokodan thread aswell before it got closed x))

If anyone was wondering where i was, i quitted multiboxing but going to play my DK's again today.

Noids
06-09-2011, 08:31 AM
How the hell do you get your MMR to 3000 plus without winning a shitload of games anyway though?

outdrsyguy1
06-09-2011, 11:48 AM
yeah, i'm not sure i understand the bug, as long as you leave before you lose your mmr goes up?

Kruschpakx4
06-09-2011, 04:03 PM
yeah, i'm not sure i understand the bug, as long as you leave before you lose your mmr goes up?

the bug with leaving has already been fixed

but there is another "bug", basically everyone can do it if you got ~2k mmr you join a 3s team with two people who have like 1100 mmr, then your queueing vs ~1650 teams and every win brings the 1100 mmrs ~+30, the 2kmmr gets like + 50 (thats how it actually should work)

so ends up with teamrating 2k
1,1k mmr people ~1600 rating
the 2k mmr guy ~2,8k

I got the same with my warrior in 2s and 3s, in 2s I'm doing feral/warrior, the feral got 2.2k mmr I started with 1.1k mmr, I dont know why but after 20:3 he was 2450 and I was 14-1500, team rating 1900;

And here comes the part that I'll never ever understand, my warrior started with 1500 in 3v3, played with two others who had 1700 and 1600 mmr. after like 30:10 I got 2.5k mmr and my mates were at 1900&1800 mmr.

I have no clue how that shit works and obviosly no one does. I know a lot of top players who are also saying the system is broken as hell

daanji
06-09-2011, 06:30 PM
So using this method, you can easily pump up your mmr, but it doesn't affect your team rating does it? You would still need to get a personal rating of 2.2k to be able to buy weapons. Unless somehow having an inflated mmr makes points easier to get.

I must be missing something.

Fat Tire
06-10-2011, 11:35 AM
Its an exploit where you take 1 person of a 3s team and they move to a different team and tank their mmr. Or you take 2 of that team put them on separate teams and they tank individually on separate teams. In short you are confusing the shit out of the mmr system by moving back on forth between teams- high and low and winning and tanking all on separate teams. There is a point where your mmr will never move its stuck no matter how many games you play, win or lose it stays the same. I am sure you will hear more about it after the end of the season awards. There are specifics I am leaving out on the process since everyone here is of high ethical values. My original comment was in general about shodokan taking his success however achieved as a standard worthy of recognition when the system itself can never be a measure of anything else other than in terms of time vs. entertainment value to the user and not to anyone else. In terms of this site or boxing in general I think everyone can agree that Mosg2's manifesto was worthy of recognition. Kinda like those videos posted way back when by Vyndree (thanks Ualaa). Here is my vote for Mosg2 with a rainbow name tag and Ualaa for a solid gold tag.

Edit: Fixed the name.


http://i.imgur.com/iR9rb.jpg

Mosg2
06-10-2011, 04:22 PM
Rainbow tag? srsly?

:D

Negativ1337
06-11-2011, 07:16 AM
I never understood that shit. The time the rating shit was at its best was in TBC.

Winners +15 points, losers -15 points.

If a low rated team beated a high rated team they would gain more, the other way around they would gain less.

Kruschpakx4
06-11-2011, 11:50 AM
If a low rated team beated a high rated team they would gain more, the other way around they would gain less.

its not very funny to queue vs #1 players @1500 rating if they make a new team

Atrocious
06-14-2011, 04:16 AM
its not very funny to queue vs #1 players @1500 rating if they make a new team

Nope, happened quite a bit with me when I tried my hand at Arenas, so gave up on that a bit until next season, and trying to get honor gear atm. Then when the new season starts I'll give it another shot. As I assume people won't be doing that too much during the beginning of a season, but rather as a thing to do towards the end to either help friends get better ratings, or something else.

It's not fun running into a guy in full pvp purples, and the other guy with mostly PvE gear. :)

Oh well, I'll figure out the PvP game soon enough. :)