Buying computer for 10boxing

[beeq]

Heya again!

when 5 Beeqs wasn't enough, I'm leveling 5 more at the moment for 10boxing purposes and now I ask your opinions for the new hardware I'm about to buy.

Motherboard: Asus P8P67 PRO B3 Intel P67 LGA1155 ATX
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.4 Ghz LGA1155, boxed
Memory: 2x Kingston HyperX Genesis KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB
Video card: 2x Sapphire Radeon HD6950 2 GB GDDR5
HD: OCZ Agility 3 120 GB 2.5" SSD SATA III
PSU: Corsair GS800W ATX

You think this setup would run 10 accounts? I think the most important component is the memory, since wow uses like 500MB each client, that's why there's 16 gigs of it.

Please do comment, throw suggestions, feedback etc

thanks in advance
runtu

[EaTCarbS]

Ive run 9 toons on lesser specs than that, so I don't think you'll run into any problems.

[HPAVC]

Agreed, over kill. It will be fine.

[Littleburst]

The thing I recall being said in every topic about 10 boxing is that people get 2 pc's because that's cheaper.

[Ashley]

Heh, I just got that exact spec (diff graphics card and no SSD) for 5 boxing :<

[beeq]

Heh, I just got that exact spec (diff graphics card and no SSD) for 5 boxing :<

Quite common components I guess atm yeah.
I got lost in youtube, and should'nt had looked those videos about that video card. Ordered it twice for crossfire setup..
Going to prove that human can live a month by eating just the pasta (or anything really really cheap food)

[MiRai]

Quite common components I guess atm yeah.
I got lost in youtube, and should'nt had looked those videos about that video card. Ordered it twice for crossfire setup..
Going to prove that human can live a month by eating just the pasta (or anything really really cheap food)
For the 1,289,882nd time... don't use SLI or Crossfire to multibox.

[EaTCarbS]

For the 1,289,882nd time... don't use SLI or Crossfire to multibox.

Seconded. It gives you nothing. You're better off using more displays.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Ya 16G is good (you will also need the Win7 that can go to 16G, not the home version). Wise to plan to have more then enough ram and not push it with 8G. Make 100 percent sure the rams are on the motherboard approved vendor list, won't be fun if your MB turns out not to be able to use those rams.

If its 600W I would move up to 750 at least.


I do always recomend more chepo computers to save bucks but 10boxing on a single seems to be the trend and of course you end up with a nicer computer for other puposes instead of two junk ones, but this should work for 10 boxing.

You gonna 9 tile the alts on one screen or use two?

Your big decision will be if you tile at same resolution as the main so you get instant swaping with isboxer vs. not doing so and getting slower switching but not stressing your video card so much. This is where more computers is better, as you have one monitor/computer for the main and one monitor/computer for the alts

[beeq]

I've been playing only wow for a long time so the crossfire setup is more likely for other games I couldn't enjoy in past few years.
One of the prios still is though, that I can 10box WoW with that computer.

I was thinking to set up ISBoxer to stacked full screen layout with some video feeds. Got another monitor with I could tile the 9 toons, but I think the stacked might serve my needs better (so can use dvb-c card for channel surfing while raiding)

And aye, had to drop 600W and got GS800W instead.

[dragoneye]

i've been 10boxing for awhile and i end up 5boxing more and the only raids i can clear are old/out-dated content because all the new cata raids are too hard to 10 box for me.... =(

i'd love to hear of what 10boxers can do in cata so i can get my butt to it... =)

[Lyonheart]

Well the current raid content is getting nerfed hard.. to make new 80s gearing up for Firelands easier. So I'm sure some of it will be easier to box after the patch. I'm building my PC to be able to 10 box down the road. But i will also be 5 boxing Rift.

[HPAVC]

Not sure why with that configuration two systems would be cheaper, he could remove a video card depending on what his monitor setup if he is just using two 1920x1200 monitors or whatever his eye strain likes.

That system is pretty tame for the modern gamer.

I would add a bigfoot card (2100, unless your guild or other games use mumble), I see more boost out of that than the ssd once the game is playing. You have a great (sic) windows 7 64bit os with overkill ram, when zoning you shouldnt have problems if your system is properly symlinked to mimic deduplication. All the data files are in memory once they are loaded once, all the slaves will take advantage.

[Ashley]

Well...

i7-2600K
12GB RAM
ATI HD 5850 1gb GDDR5
650w power supply

The above let me take 10 hunters into stormwind
http://ash.gdkr.net/wow/10boxing.png

[MiRai]

Well...

i7-2600K
8GB RAM
ATI HD 5850 1gb GDDR5
650w power supply

The above let me take 10 hunters into stormwind
http://ash.gdkr.net/wow/10boxing.png
You have more than 8GB of RAM seeing as you're using 8.27GB in the pic with 69% physical memory usage.

12GB * 0.69 = 8.27GB RAM

The next question is... why do you have 12GB of RAM? Dual-channel utilizes 2/4/8/16/32.

[Ashley]

Sorry, I meant 12gb. I bought 12gb RAM because it was advertised as being compatible with the mobo and was the highest quantity of bundled RAM within my price range. It was only after purchase someone told me about the whole dual-channel thing in IRC.

Well, it works, might not be as efficient as it could be (difference won't be that much of an impact), and the only time I'll be able to do something about it is buying a heatsink that doesn't hog the airspace over the ram slots and getting a 4th stick, or by buying ram with a low profile that'll sit under the heatsink snugly.

Runs fine and is a 10x better machine than what I've come from (Q6600, 6gb RAM, 1gb Nvidia 9500 GT).

[alcattle]

The 6950 is a dual gpu, right so you would be quad SLI/X-fire? might need to work that out before getting 2 of them.

[Sam DeathWalker]

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2010/12/16/ati-radeon-hd-6950-review/1

6950 is single gpu.



Well, it works, might not be as efficient as it could be (difference won't be that much of an impact)

So true, don't spend any time to worry about that. Way better to have more single channel ram then to have less duel channel. (i.e. 12G is better then 8G even if the 8G is duel channel).

[Selz]

I like the system but you should really skip SLI / crossfire as people say
insted i would recommend you to get the Geforce 590 thats a really expensive one yes, but what it gives you is awesome
the new ATI card is actually better at performance but then again you cant throw anything on the 590 that it cant run, so basicly im just looking at the features the cards give you. and I must say the 590 brings something very interresting if you have in mind to get 3 big TV monitors later such as some cheap 3D samsung TVs just imagin the fun :p I would deffently go for this card

NOTE: This card is also useing dual GPU which isnt the supported for wow, yet i deffently believe you could run 10x wow even with 1 of thise GPUs

---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wMBS_bfkFk

[Sam DeathWalker]

How interesting there is a vram bottleneck even 2G ram cards ....

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/06/06/msi_n580gtx_lightning_xe_3gb_video_card_review/6

Go to the bottem of the page.


For WoW, I would not consider duel gpu cards. I would say the 580 3G card is the best you can get for multiboxing wow (unless there is a 3G AMD faster).

[Sajuuk]

How interesting there is a vram bottleneck even 2G ram cards ....

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/06/06/msi_n580gtx_lightning_xe_3gb_video_card_review/6

Go to the bottem of the page.


For WoW, I would not consider duel gpu cards. I would say the 580 3G card is the best you can get for multiboxing wow (unless there is a 3G AMD faster).

By themselves using software like keyclone, I would agree. But most people use isboxer, which allows you to assign clients different GPUs, splitting the workload between them. If you can get a bargain price, go ahead and consider getting a dual gpu card. Now, the ability to do this could vary between cards, I'm not certain. My information is definitely dated, but I was able to do it with 9800GX2s just fine.

I know when I rebuild my machine (it's a ways off, but whatever), going to do multiple gpus (not for wow, mind you. I play on running a 30" monitor. :p )

[MiRai]

I like the system but you should really skip SLI / crossfire as people say
insted i would recommend you to get the Geforce 590 thats a really expensive one yes, but what it gives you is awesome
the new ATI card is actually better at performance but then again you cant throw anything on the 590 that it cant run, so basicly im just looking at the features the cards give you. and I must say the 590 brings something very interresting if you have in mind to get 3 big TV monitors later such as some cheap 3D samsung TVs just imagin the fun :p I would deffently go for this card

NOTE: This card is also useing dual GPU which isnt the supported for wow, yet i deffently believe you could run 10x wow even with 1 of thise GPUs
WoW supports it, but it's not recommended to multibox with. Stock GTX 590's are underclocked GTX 580's...
which I find a waste. If you're going to get a GTX 590 you should go all out (http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/MATRIX_GTX580_P2DIS1536MD5/).

[Sajuuk]

WoW supports it, but it's not recommended to multibox with. Stock GTX 590's are underclocked GTX 580's...
which I find a waste. If you're going to get a GTX 590 you should go all out (http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/MATRIX_GTX580_P2DIS1536MD5/).


I thought they were 560s...

Eh, oh well.