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zenga
05-21-2011, 05:57 AM
My current account setup looks like this:

A (main): 2x ele shaman, dk, priest, prot/ret pally
B: ele shaman, dk
C: resto shaman, priest
D: ele shaman, dk
E: ele shaman, dk

So In other words I have a 5x shaman team and a 4dk + priest. Now I like to lead with one of the toons on account A, toons that I tend to play solo as well. First option was to level up a new dk on C, together with some lvl 60ish toons I have laying around on the other accounts, but for who I don't have immediate plans. Second option was to go priest or holly pally (depending on my mood) on A, 3x dk and enhance on C.

But what I eventually decided was drive with shadow priest on A, 3x frost dk and heal on C with disc priest: The disc priest will be on follow to the shadow priest.

The way I see the team work is 3 dk IWT with the target of my shadow priest. Shadow priest has all spells macro'd to both focus and target, with obviously a quick setfocus/clearfocus macro. This way the dk's can sit on any target of choice, while the shadowpriest can dot up all others and put some pressure on a 2nd target.

If the shadow priest is being trained -> dispersion + fear from disc. Other way around, fear, run off, leap of faith + fear and he should be save.

Having 2 fears 2x fear ward and psychic scream combined with 3x peel deathgrips, should offer enough protection on the 2 priests. What makes this interesting is that I can play around with 2x leap of faith. It could work out well to los a healer (leap a dk, dk dg's healer, leap another dk who dg's healer 2nd time behind los).

Vampiric Embrace brings another AOE heal

What I really like about this idea is that I can use a bunch of tools on the shadow priest while my disc does his healing job, switching between offence and defence depending on the situation. 2x mana burn, throw in some extra shields, put an extra renew on trained target, 2x mass dispell. This while dot's are ticking. Shadow priest has a pretty strong execute as well. 3 frost dk's will eventually kill their target anyway.

Any ideas/recommendations?

AgentSnipps
05-21-2011, 10:23 AM
Only thing I can think of is the priest dot nerfs might hurt next patch if they stick but other than that it looks good to me. Sounds like your looking to the Spriest for utility anyway and not so much raw damage wo maybe the nerfs wont inpact you to much.

On a slightly reltated note I've been toying with the idea of a 5 disc priest pvp team and had the thought to make one shadow for the fear/disarm and silence that the disc priest all lack. The downside is it lacks the full effect or round robin pain supression, power word barrier and mass power infusion I'm looking forward to.

zenga
05-21-2011, 10:35 AM
If I was to go 5 priest i'd go 2 shadow, 2 disc 1 holy on first glance.

Acidburning
05-21-2011, 12:26 PM
What makes this interesting is that I can play around with 2x leap of faith. It could work out well to los a healer (leap a dk, dk dg's healer, leap another dk who dg's healer 2nd time behind los).


I like where that is going.

SaraiE
05-21-2011, 03:41 PM
What about holy pally as heal, 3 spriests and 1 dk?
the attack dog is the dk, spriests can be range attack. Pally drive and heal, when focussed, hit god mode and bubble. spriests can also do fear when melee comes in. so pally is safe from melee attack. if spriests are being focussed, do dispersion on the focussed one. three silence against casters/mana burn. Mindflays slow melee 50%. Use deathgrip on their healer, once in range, the three silence on roundrobin can basically shut down all healing on the deathgripped toon. No heal on other team equal death, more or less.

I am thinking of coming back and restart again, been reading and watching videos of mosg2's stuffs.

zenga
05-21-2011, 04:10 PM
Well that's a non-option for me as I don't have the required classes. And having only 1 dk is not enough pressure imo. You have to run with your priests against melee cleave, thus limiting the output from the pally. Having 3 dk sitting on a target is a ton of pressure and force the other side into peels, if the opponent leaves the 3 dk (with stacked necrotic strike) sit on a target too long it will drop dead. This while the dk's can always DG off any damage dealer that is trying to put pressure on one of my priests.

Littleburst
05-21-2011, 05:07 PM
I really don´t see that working in pvp. Unless you´re able to control a second keyboard with your toes. You got your dps cycle. the CC from the DK´s. The heal spells from Disc priest. The dpsspells/rotations and the defensive spells from the Spriest.

Besides that i think that a Spriest doesn't add more then a frost DK.

I'm really curious if you go for it though, all the luck with that :D Pretty awesome CC with the double fears and Hungers.

Noids
05-23-2011, 09:40 AM
I sort of prefer the idea of going with the enhance shaman rather than the spriest. Shammy gives you extra fear protection, snare protection, hex and the odd heal on the side. Not to mention I find it a nightmare running a combination of ranged and melee dps in PvP.

Your other option would be to keep resto shaman and work out some 2 heals tactics possibly.

Apps
05-23-2011, 02:54 PM
What makes this interesting is that I can play around with 2x leap of faith. It could work out well to los a healer (leap a dk, dk dg's healer, leap another dk who dg's healer 2nd time behind los).




I like where that is going.

Wait, DKs can Death Grip Friendly targets now!? When did I miss that?

Shodokan
05-23-2011, 11:01 PM
Wait, DKs can Death Grip Friendly targets now!? When did I miss that?

Opposing healers, but doing this sort of thing isn't really all that possible.

zenga
05-23-2011, 11:38 PM
After playing with this setup around in bg's, I see perspective. 3x frost is still good dmg. double mana burn, double dispel, 2 life grips, double fear, ... that's a lot of toys.

I play my shadow priest as if was to play him solo, except a dot castsequence. Every dps ability on the priest is mirrored to a 2 step iwt dps macro for the dks, need to add a different single target rotation to not break HC through a modifier.. DKs attack my target, all shadow priest offensive spells have priority to my focus. The ability to dps 2 different targets is something what I miss in a 4x dk setup.

Also have a setup to lifegrip in a dk that pops a strangulate, dk deatgrips my focus and runs towards target again (2step dps macro kicks in as soon as he is in HB range again). Deathgrip is followed by a fear on one of the priests.

Grid is quite huge with half of it being repeater region for disc priest, other half is for shadow priest if required.

Not saying this team is better than 4x dk, but it's different (something I enjoy by default), and easier to play than you might expect. And the damage comes from 2 sides rather than from 1.

Ztar
05-26-2011, 08:32 AM
How can a DK death Grip your foucs? Focus as far as i know can't be interacted by another toon...

//Ztar

zenga
05-26-2011, 11:11 AM
main does target focus, dk acquires my target after setting me as target, and then targetlasttarget to switch back, out of the top of my head, not logged in atm

AgentSnipps
05-29-2011, 08:35 AM
Well atleast your haveing fun with it, sounds intresting to be honest. Not sure if it's your kind of thing but any chance we can get a vid of you killing some stuff?

zenga
05-29-2011, 09:53 AM
Oh yeah, once i get them the gear they need and I step into arena, definitely. If my upload speed was any decent I wouldn't mind making a vid straight away. Reality is that I fraps our progression kills, and a 6-10m fight takes about half a day to upload.

AgentSnipps
05-29-2011, 11:37 AM
Awsome to hear can't wait to see the team in action and thanks for takeing the time and effort to give people like me stuff to do.