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zenga
05-16-2011, 08:33 PM
For my new 5x frost mage team I've made a CC (polymorph) setup in isboxer, But I guess I did it a bit too complicated, and thus asking if there is a simplified version of this. I use the build in FTL setup from isboxer for everything btw.

A] / (on numpad) is bound in isboxer to target the leader of the party and broadcast to all slaves

B] Have 5 buttons on my G13 game pad:

button1 -> sends ctrl/shift/num1, a new mapped key in isboixer send shift+1 to char in slot 1
button2 -> sends ctrl/shift/num2, a new mapped key in isboixer send shift+1 to char in slot 2
button3 -> sends ctrl/shift/num3, a new mapped key in isboixer send shift+1 to char in slot 3
button4 -> sends ctrl/shift/num4 , a new mapped key in isboixer send shift+1 to char in slot 4
button5 -> sends ctrl/shift/num5 , a new mapped keyin isboixer send shift+1 to char in slot 5

each char has this same macro on its actionbar that corresponds with shift+1:

/focus targettarget
/stopmacro [@focus, noexists][@focus, noharm]
/run SetRaidTarget("target", 2) (the raid icon varies per macro of course)
/emote sets star on %t

-> so all slaves target the leader at this point, I click on mob that needs to be cc'd, and click corresponding button on G13, so that slave sets that mob as focus and puts a raid icon on it. stopmacro is fallthrough in case the leader has no target or when it's a friendly player. click next mob i want to cc, click button, and that slave puts the next mob in focus + different raid marker ... x5

C] On G13 I have another button that sends shift+2, isboxer sends it to all toons, and it triggers this macro on the actionbar for everyone

/stopcasting [@focus, exists, harm]
/cast [@focus, exists] polymorph

The toons that had their focus set will now CC it and keep their focus till mob is dead or I clear it. Stopcasting obviously to resheep if needed, but only when focus is set to an enemy.

D) On G13 I have another button that sends shift+3, isboxers sends it to all toons and it triggers a simple /clearfocus macro to reset everything

...

So in short:
5 toons target me
5 buttons to set the focus for the respective toons
1 button to cast polymorph to all toons who have focus

besides this I have a simple roundrobin button to cast polymorph, on the leaders target (less hassle, better for a single mob or pvp)

TL:DR

is there a simplified way to do this with isboxer?

cheers
z

Toned
05-16-2011, 09:40 PM
I use an actiontargetgroup cc

I have 1button that sends an FTL focus current windows target. This is on round robin for the target group.
Then I have 1 button that is /cast [@focus] ccspell

zenga
05-16-2011, 10:52 PM
lol that is indeed quite a simplified version
was unaware that isboxer has a 'focus current windws target' functionality

cheers

Ualaa
05-16-2011, 10:59 PM
You have:
- FTL Target Me
- FTL Assist Me
- FTL Follow Me

You could build it into the same macro.
One step.
- FTL Assist Me
- Send Keybind to Slot/Character for CC Macro.

You can do it in two mapped keys or two steps on one mapped key.
Key A, or Step 1.
- FTL Assist Me
Key B, or Step 2.
- Send Keybind to run the CC Macro.
If you went this route, it could execute a step on press or release.
And the delay between acquiring target and setting the target as the focus, would account for latency.

You could have all your mages in an Action Target Group.
Instead of Send Keybind to Slot/Character, use the ATG as the target.
And round-robin within target group.

There isn't something for your slaves to focus the target of the current window.
But you can have your slaves target what you're targeting now.
And once you have assisted, set that as your focus.

zenga
05-17-2011, 05:32 AM
What is the advantage of an action target group round robin when I play 5 mages all of the same spec? I guess only when I was to replace 1 of the toons for a tank or healer so the round robin would not iterate through tank/healer?

Leovindica
05-17-2011, 06:28 AM
Zenga, you could check this thread. http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34218

Ualaa
05-17-2011, 06:47 AM
I have two mapped keys for Death & Decay.

One of them sends the keybind to all of my DK windows (the DK ATG).
And it has a Send Next Click action, to all of the DK's too.

The other is set up to send the keybind to the ATG.
With the check box to round-robin, within the group.
And it also does the Send Next Click action, same target group.
Also with the box checked for round-robin within the group.
Because both the Send Keybind and Send Next Click use the same ATG, the order syncs up with both.
End result is a mouse-broadcast Death & Decay, for a single toon at a time.



You could use that for anything you want your toons to do in sequence.
One step will have them round-robin within the selected target group.
Rather than needing to have five steps, with a different target on each step.

If you were to mix and match toons.
You could add a tank and healer to the team/character set.
And just remove two names from the ATG.
Your round-robin within group (ATG of mages as the target), would work without further modification.

If you take a look at Aragent's thread (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=42878), it attempts to provide macros for groups of toons.
You could put all of your Elemental Shammies into an Elemental Shaman ATG.
Do the same with all of your Balance Druids, etc...
And mix and match your teams however you want to do them.
Then have a generic keymap that applies to all of the teams (drag it onto the character set).
Or move the mapped keys onto the General Keymap, which also applies to all teams.
Then by virtue of being in the correct ATG, those toons run the correct macro or set of macros when you spam your DPS.



With all five being the same, there is less benefit from ATG's then if there were differences.
You might want to manually control one, and have the four slaves in an ATG; I could see this in particular if you were playing a 5x melee team, but did not want your main to IWT.

If you were to spec one Frost, and four of them Arcane... you might then want separate ATG's, because each spec has different abilities.

If I were to run 3x Frost and 1x Unholy DK's, with my Paladin, an ATG for the Frost DK's, which would round-robin Hungering Cold within that specific ATG would be a decent option.



In the past, I've experimented with two Action Target Groups for PvE play.
The team was, Prot Pally, Destro Warlock, and 3x Caster Shammies.
One of the Shammies was dual-spec Resto/Elemental, the other two were straight Elemental.

ATG A - Certain healing keybinds would go to all of my Shammies.
ATG B - Those same healer keybinds only go to the Resto Shaman.
Then have a two step mapped key for toggling my state.
Step 1 -- Adds all shammies to ATG A, and removes the Dual-Spec shammy from ATG B.
Step 2 -- Removes all shammies from ATG A, and adds only the Dual-Spec shammy to ATG B.

End result, Dedicated Healer mode = only that one Shaman does healing, the other two were straight DPS... receiving my one-button spam click castsequence, even when I pushed a button that would normally be a heal.... but DPS mode = all shammies were DPS, none are the dedicated healer, so Lesser Healing Wave and Chain Heal go to all shammies.

zenga
05-17-2011, 08:11 AM
@leovindica

- yeah in that thread you linked I see mostly setups that look like mine
- see you are playing on kul tiras eu as well (i play horde however)

@ualaa
Cheers for the write out/up. I clearly see the advantage of ATG's. However think that i'll stick to my cc setup for now, just incorporate the step where all slaves have to target me into the acquire focus step. I'm not short on buttons anyways since I use G13/G11 + naga, and it only takes 1 spot on my actionbars. It's easy to translate this to a shaman team or mix in later any other classes. And I prefer the each button per toon over a roundrobin for this as I'll be lost at which step in the loop I'm at. (this next to a simple round robin poly button for quicker cc where I don't mind who is cc'ing).

Leovindica
05-17-2011, 08:58 AM
Zenga, I know you are on KT;-) I have encountered 2 other boxers on alliance side. 'We Are One guild' and another new boxer. We Are One I haven't seen for a while now, he is on these forums aswell.

Sam DeathWalker
05-17-2011, 09:09 AM
Not sure if stuff has changed a lot but (this before round robin added to isboxer)

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=33327

Toned
05-17-2011, 11:11 AM
What is the advantage of an action target group round robin when I play 5 mages all of the same spec? I guess only when I was to replace 1 of the toons for a tank or healer so the round robin would not iterate through tank/healer?

This

Ashley
05-19-2011, 06:39 AM
You guys are making CC too hard...

/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph


Put one of them on each char, sorted.

zenga
05-19-2011, 07:15 AM
I don't really like the random approach. One of the things I really want as a boxer is (try) to be in total control of what my toons do, including cc. I've tied some of my earlier steps together and have a just 5 buttons on the G13, 1 for each toon. Can easily swap in 1 class for another without having to change macro's or setup. Really got the hang of it now after running some dungeons and it does the job for me the way I want/like.

Cheers for all feedback

Toned
05-24-2011, 02:11 PM
You guys are making CC too hard...

/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph

/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/targetnearestenemy
/cast Polymorph


Put one of them on each char, sorted.

Double check the wow API I believe they nerfed it so it only executes the /targetnearestyenemy once regardless of how many you stack. If you are pressing that and getting cc's it's random luck based off positioning.
I'll do some testing again, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the cata API changes. Also Randomness isn't that great all the time :)

Toned
05-24-2011, 02:15 PM
There isn't something for your slaves to focus the target of the current window

There isn't something by the default cookie cutter setup correct, but you can get as generic and flexible as you want with some crafty macros and ISBoxer knowledge.

Ualaa
05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
To a degree.

Toon A picks a target and makes it their focus, possibly with a focus mouse-over macro.
Toon A never actually targets their chosen focus.

Toon B has not clue which one Toon A set as their focus.
There is no macro command to figure out what Toon A set.
Toon B cannot even tell that Toon A has a focus set.

If you want Toon B to do something with Toon A's focus, Toon A will have to target it.
Even if the targeting is brief...
Toon B can do something at the Target of Toon A, which might be their focus too.
But they'll never actually use macro/mapped key language, cast at [target= The Focus Set by Someone Else].

You could definitely have Toon A's focus as CC option1.
Briefly have Toon A target it, the CC toon cast whatever, and have Toon A clear their target.
Not saying you cannot take advantage of setting various focus targets on assorted toons.

Lax
05-24-2011, 04:21 PM
I think you're both on the same page but there's a slight miscommunication ;)

"There isn't something for your slaves to focus the target of the current window" -- Toned is correct in pointing out that you can /focus the "target of the current window". The Quick Setup 38 macro set (from the Quick Setup Wizard in ISBoxer 38) includes this gem:

/clearfocus
/focus {FTL}
/focus [@focustarget]It should work fine given a proper Key Combination (it doesn't have one assigned by default)

And Ualaa is correct in responding that nobody but Toon A can determine Toon A's Focus Target. The quote just didn't say Focus Target.

Toned
05-25-2011, 05:55 PM
To a degree.

Toon A picks a target and makes it their focus, possibly with a focus mouse-over macro.
Toon A never actually targets their chosen focus.

Toon B has not clue which one Toon A set as their focus.
There is no macro command to figure out what Toon A set.
Toon B cannot even tell that Toon A has a focus set.

If you want Toon B to do something with Toon A's focus, Toon A will have to target it.
Even if the targeting is brief...
Toon B can do something at the Target of Toon A, which might be their focus too.
But they'll never actually use macro/mapped key language, cast at [target= The Focus Set by Someone Else].

You could definitely have Toon A's focus as CC option1.
Briefly have Toon A target it, the CC toon cast whatever, and have Toon A clear their target.
Not saying you cannot take advantage of setting various focus targets on assorted toons.

Ya, you lost me I wasn't sure where you were going. Lax basically posted exactly what I do. Focus the target of the Current window. I know you have zero visability at other characters focus.

Ualaa
05-25-2011, 06:31 PM
Current Window = the active toon.

The active toon (Toon A) can target its own focus.
But Toon A, has no clue who Toon B has set as their focus... unless Toon B targets their own focus.

Toned
05-25-2011, 06:41 PM
Ya I'll just end the thread I understand what you were saying, but wasn't sure if the tangent you went on was because of me posting my FTL focus on the Current Window / Active toon's target. If that got telephoned into me saying I was setting focuses/targeting base off the Current Window's Focus.

Sam DeathWalker
05-27-2011, 10:49 PM
/targetnearestenemy is protected

/targetenemy is basically the same as it picks the nearest.

I will have to check to see if you can only run it one time.

With the /targetenenemy -1 you can get two guys on different targets most of the time.

Doing a two step macro pressing the same key twice or three times should get your 5 guys on different CC most of the time.

If you have toon A and toon B on the first press with different targets you can have C assist A and then /targetenemy and D assist A and /targetenemy -1 and have E assist B and /targetenemy and get most or all 5 of your guys on different targets in 2 key press of the same key. Or even fire on the up and down of one key press ..... (I think thats ok forgot). Thats assuming you can only do one /targetenemy at a time.

The point is that by using /assist and /targetenemy you are 100 percent sure not to have both guys on the same CC (assuimg multiple CC in range of both).