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Ughmahedhurtz
05-14-2011, 01:28 AM
So I'm running 4x bards to play with a couple of buddies and so far, I must say I like them a lot. Healing by default while DPSing with extra group heals when needed and buffs out the wazoo do make for an extremely hard to kill group. Being able to "solo" major rifts and the elite invasions/bosses is nifty.

Alge
05-14-2011, 07:38 AM
I've played 1 warrior + 4 bards to 50 and am now playing a mixed team. There are a couple of important shortcomings you may run into:

1) no cure/cleanse (unless I completely missed it somehow)
2) bards don't qualify as healers in the LFG system, so no randoms :(

cichard
05-14-2011, 09:30 AM
yup and actually at higher lvls bards are not as good as chloro/archon. archon brings the same buffs to the table as the bards anthem. But the archon can have all the anthems up at one time instead of just one. So 1 mage can do the buffs of 4 bards. They only lack the run speed anthem.

Ughmahedhurtz
05-14-2011, 11:58 AM
I've played 1 warrior + 4 bards to 50 and am now playing a mixed team. There are a couple of important shortcomings you may run into:

1) no cure/cleanse (unless I completely missed it somehow)
2) bards don't qualify as healers in the LFG system, so no randoms :(

Understood. I'm more interested in playing through the 1-50 game at the moment to see how things scale and get a bit of experience in the game's mechanics. I'm sure if I like the bards at 50, I'll probably roll another team to explore some other mechanics. Bards alone definitely already have trouble with instances at level. +5 or so I'm OK but my ranger pets tend to get eaten alive at-level.

Lyonheart
05-14-2011, 05:53 PM
Bards can rez now too 8)

Alge
05-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Understood. I'm more interested in playing through the 1-50 game at the moment to see how things scale and get a bit of experience in the game's mechanics. I'm sure if I like the bards at 50, I'll probably roll another team to explore some other mechanics. Bards alone definitely already have trouble with instances at level. +5 or so I'm OK but my ranger pets tend to get eaten alive at-level.

Bards are great for doing that.

Norrin
05-14-2011, 10:13 PM
Well I think I am going to try out 4 bards + something else.
I finally got a full team running, but having 4 of the same thing, that can heal while dpsing, sounds good.
I only want to experience pve content, not even really interested in running instances right away.

Now if I could figure out how to make the video stream thingy in ISBoxer work for me that would be great.

Alge
05-15-2011, 04:34 AM
Now if I could figure out how to make the video stream thingy in ISBoxer work for me that would be great.

You must be on Vista or later, have Aero desktop enabled and be using only a single PC or it can't work.

Norrin
05-15-2011, 09:33 AM
Thanks Alge.
I meant more about how to put them to good use, than the technical requirements.
For example how you used them to ease npc interaction like quest givers.

I would love to find a way to get mouse over healing to work them.
There are times when I don't run my full team; where my wife and maybe my son jump in. In those cases healing with macros is difficult. I usually just end up controlling a healer as the main.

Alge
05-15-2011, 10:52 AM
I don't think video feeds (aka video FX) are the solution to healing in RIFT. I guess you could create an interactive feed of your healer's party frames but I think the very slight lag you get with video FX might be off-putting. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong.

Alternatively, if you can guarantee the raid frames are always available to you then this method (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=33614) might work. I haven't tried it yet for RIFT but plan to in the near future; I'm currently using a click bar + macro healing system that relies on knowing the names of all party members in advance. You can't do the method described in the above guide with the normal party frames because the order is not consistent across all characters, but it is for raid frames. Despite what the game says, there appears to be no xp or gold penalty for making your 5-man party into a raid.

cichard
05-15-2011, 12:28 PM
Well I think I am going to try out 4 bards + something else.
I finally got a full team running, but having 4 of the same thing, that can heal while dpsing, sounds good.
I only want to experience pve content, not even really interested in running instances right away.

Now if I could figure out how to make the video stream thingy in ISBoxer work for me that would be great.


if ur looking for ones that damage and heal at the same time do a warrior tank plus 4 chloro mages. u can be chloro/necro on 3 and chloro archon on hte 4th bring all the buffs bring 3 dps pets and all do damge plus heal. i guess alot of people do not realise that mages heal in this game. hehe

Norrin
05-15-2011, 04:11 PM
Alge I used that repeater region in WOW with Vudo (I cant remember the actual spelling). It worked beautifully.
I was thinking of having a video region somewhere on my main monitor that had the healer party bar that I could interact with.
You think the lag would nullify that though huh?

Cichard I was thinking of doing another team similar to that, or even exactly like that.
I do enjoy playing my Chloro mage solo, but not as much as my Warden/Purifier cleric.

Alge
05-15-2011, 05:46 PM
Alge I used that repeater region in WOW with Vudo (I cant remember the actual spelling). It worked beautifully.
I was thinking of having a video region somewhere on my main monitor that had the healer party bar that I could interact with.
You think the lag would nullify that though huh?

Only one way to really find out - try it! :) It takes all of about two minutes to set up if you use the in-game ISBoxer Control Panel. http://isboxer.com/wiki/Video_Feed