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Stu
03-03-2008, 10:23 AM
Hi guys,

I've been reading some of your guides over the last few days and been playing around with two machines.

My question is in fact very basic. How do I control two PC's with the same mouse at the same time, such that the two warcraft characters I am controlling stay in sync?

To further explain what I have tried so far:

I have two machines setup and I have been using Multibox to send keyboard and mouse input from my main machine to my secondary machine. This works just fine in Windows and moving about the login screen in Warcraft however shortly after I log in while moving both my characters with the mouse they go out of sync very quickly. Eg. If I turn my main character 90 degrees with the mouse the second character will appear to turn 85 degrees and this is clearly a huge issue.

I have read about the use of Y splitter mouse devices but I am confused as to how they operate. Would a Y splitter allow me to send the output of my mouse to both machines and keep them in sync such that my characters move and look in exactly the same direction?

I understand this is a newbie question but it doesn't seem to have been covered off in terms simple enough for me to understand elsewhere.

Many thanks in advance for your help,

Stu :cursing:

Eteocles
03-03-2008, 10:27 AM
Before someone else jumps you to read stickies, it's basically not feasible to move each alt manually; bottom line: Control/move main, set all alts to /follow main, there's no way to make them all stay on the same course through normal movement

Stu
03-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Thank you.

So basically mouse control of multiple machines is not possible.

Does anyone know why the alts don't follow the same course when I am issuing the same commands?

Wilbur
03-03-2008, 11:13 AM
Read the Stickies.

Its explained.

You clearly haven't bothered.

Stu
03-03-2008, 11:24 AM
As I said in my post I could not find a an answer that I felt covered my question.

Read the post Wilbur, I explained this. You clearly haven't bothered.

Dezeral
03-03-2008, 11:46 AM
The are a number of problems with trying to synchronize your control of multiple characters. First, each character is subject to things out of your control:network lag, differences in processors, micro delays in keyboard/mouse input, etc. Another problem you have to overcome is getting every character perfectly, and I do mean PERFECTLY, lined up. This is pretty much impossible. Here is a crude visual aid to help you see what you have to overcome.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3223/radialzf2.png

If you're in the green interior circle, it may seem like your characters are lined up, but the farther you move out towards the red circle and beyond, the more pronounced any variation becomes. Even if one of your characters is off by a tenth of a degree, it will take no time at all before he's running off from your other characters.

Wilbur
03-03-2008, 11:55 AM
As I said in my post I could not find a an answer that I felt covered my question.

Read the post Wilbur, I explained this. You clearly haven't bothered.

I read your post.

I know the answer.

I KNOW it is answered in the Stickies.

Stu
03-03-2008, 11:57 AM
Thanks Dezeral,

That sounds good.

Pretty much turns me off of multiboxing though, I love my mouse just too much, can't get used to playing without it.

Thanks again.

Stu
03-03-2008, 11:58 AM
Wilbur, clearly you are blind, stupid or both....

Goodbye.

Dezeral
03-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Thanks Dezeral,

That sounds good.

Pretty much turns me off of multiboxing though, I love my mouse just too much, can't get used to playing without it.

Thanks again.

I'm a little confused as to why this would turn you off of multi-boxing. You still control your main character anyway you would like. If you like using your mouse, great, use your mouse. Having the alts on follow has some limitations, but I certainly don't see any of those limitations as a game breaker. Any spell that gives your the targeting circle would be very hard to use multi-boxing. Circle strafing is of course something you will have to adjust to using the /follow command. Other than that, I don't really see the major problem with /follow. You might be surprised at how quickly you can adjust to positioning your crew with them on follow.

Slats
03-03-2008, 04:42 PM
Stu,



I am not 100% sure I understand your question with regards to moving characters but here is how I have my mice setup.
Mouse1: Main Mouse, control of main PC.

Mouse2: Wireless Mouse, linked to Four Recievers. Controls all 4 'clone PCs' at the same time.

Mouse 3-6: Individually Control each machine.



You needed to have 'enhanced pointer control' turned on all 4 PC's so that the pointer moves at the same rate. If one pointer wanders off or gets out of synch you push the mouse to the uppoer left/right etc of the screen and they all resync. I had some mouse software installed on one PC for awhile and its kind of fucked my mouse settings for that clone, so I recommend using the same brand of mouse and not using any 'mouse software' for the clones either.

Stealthy
03-04-2008, 12:02 AM
Stu -

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but it is you who are both blind and stupid. (stupid for calling someone else stupid without doing research first)

Here is the sticky you so carelessly overlooked: Multiboxing Wiki - My 5 (Now 10!) Boxing WoW Writeup ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=410') - The answer to your specific question is in there, I just chceked.

2nd from the top. :rolleyes:

It didn't really answer his question though. His question was about using one mouse to control 2 toons (i.e. wothout using follow), not about which mice setup you should use for boxing. Some people are a bit to quick to jump on the "that sounds like a noob question - beat him!" wagon. :)

This question has been asked and answered before (ages ago) but it's not in the stickies AFAIK. Perhaps updating the wiki with more info about what can be done and what can't be done with mice & multiboxing might be in order.

Stealthy
03-04-2008, 02:06 AM
Stu -

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but it is you who are both blind and stupid. (stupid for calling someone else stupid without doing research first)

Here is the sticky you so carelessly overlooked: Multiboxing Wiki - My 5 (Now 10!) Boxing WoW Writeup ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=410') - The answer to your specific question is in there, I just chceked.

2nd from the top. :rolleyes:

It didn't really answer his question though. His question was about using one mouse to control 2 toons (i.e. wothout using follow), not about which mice setup you should use for boxing. Some people are a bit to quick to jump on the "that sounds like a noob question - beat him!" wagon. :)

This question has been asked and answered before (ages ago) but it's not in the stickies AFAIK. Perhaps updating the wiki with more info about what can be done and what can't be done with mice & multiboxing might be in order.

You failed to read it too I take it?

There is a section it here about mouse broadcasting via wireless receivers. That's how you'd control multiple toons with one mouse.
Of course I read it. Reading comprehension 101 - the OP's question wasn't about setting up one mouse to broadcast accross both his PC's - he stated he's done that already in his first post. The question was how does he make his toons stay in sync when playing WoW. He thought that by moving to a hardware solution might fix the desync'ing issue when the answer is of course it isn't possible to keep two toons perfectly in sync.

Silly Gooooose
03-04-2008, 02:32 AM
Read the Stickies.

Its explained.

You clearly haven't bothered.TBH I have read all the stickies, and it was midly confusing, the bit I read.

Some parts said you could do it, if it was diff computers, some say you can do it with wireless, and so on.