How many new boxers have you seen give up before lvl10?

[bodefeld]

I have now seen the fourth player that wanted to box on my server give up.

This is their story:

- They see me, start chatting with me.
- I tell them to read the guides on this forum before considering getting serious about boxing.
- They say they are serious, and get the accounts and soft-/hardware tools.
- I try to help them set it all up (TS/vent).
- Then they notice that they have to write some 50 macros.
- Then they notice that looting is unpleasant.
- Then they notice that there is no "I win"-button.
- Then they give up before lvl10.

I am really sorry the necessary effort is so much underestimated.

[TEEJ]

ok here is how to make multiboxing simplified to 4 buttons and 2 macros

have a follow key (for me, g12 on my g11 keyboard)

have a way to break follow. i just use my "spread out" buttons
bind f11 to strafe left on 2 alts. bind f11 to strafe right on 2 alts. bind f12 to strafe left on 1 already strafing left. bind f12 to strafe right on one already strafing right.

have a "i win" button key. i use 3. here is the macro. /focus Maincharacter /use Racial /use Trinket /castrandom Ability1, Ability2, Ability3, Ability4, Ability5 [target=focustarget]. for Ability1, etc. just type in the names of every single class ability.

there you go, multiboxing in 4 buttons with keyclone support.

if they ever need to heal (not usually since all multiboxers are immortal), /cast Heal1, Heal2, Heal3, Heal4 [target=focustargettarget, focustarget, self, whatever (still working on this one)] bind to 4.

if they want to look cool doing the same nuke coordinated-like, bind 2 to Starfire/Shadowbolt/Pyroblast/Aimedshot/Chainlightning.

so maximum, 6 buttons are even bound.
only 2-4 of them being macros that can be copy/pasted from a text file on your desktop.

As for the looting problem, just explain that multiboxers don't require loot as they outdps 90% of wow players on a toon by toon basis while naked, simply due to actually playing the character. do dailies on a 70 5 times, mail 5 alts 50g each for skills, powermoonfirelolspamtolevel40, upgrade to SM gear. if all classes are the same and ranged, nobody needs loot aside from hunterbow/etc until level 58 outland quests. if you have 1 tank and the other 4 are ranged/healer/whateveraslongasitsnotmelee then only the tank needs gear, so the solution is for tank to be master looter, or set it to free for all just to get the tank gear. that way you can tank SM later.



i know how the quitters feel. initially i was overwhelmed by the amount of macros i'd have to write/bind/rememberwhereitsbound. now, with my castrandom every skill idea, i can see myself rolling 5 of any class and mashing 3 a lot, enjoying the hillarity of randomizing the whole skill library. <ezmode> anyone?

my only uncertainty is if it should look like this
/focus Maincharacter
/castrandom nuke, nuke, nuke [target=focustarget]
or this
/focus Maincharacter
/castrandom nuke [target=focustarget], nuke [target=focustarget], nuke [target=focustarget]

[keyclone]

- Then they notice that they have to write some 50 macros.
what macros? ahhh... AHK.

yea, that would make even me quit.

there are easier alternatives :D

[Xzin]

Nobody ever said multipimping was easy.

[Narcoz]

Well, KeyClone to be honest KeyClone (the app) does not write your WoW ingame macros eighter does it? ;) (Ye I just checked the KeyClone setup tutorial on the solidice site). I'm pretty sure bodefeld was talking about the ingame /assist and /follow etc. macro's and that work is more or less the same if you choose AHK or KeyClone (the app) from what i read.

[Xaedra]

I multiboxed my locks for 30+ levels and I only had to make 2 macros.

Keyclone FTW.

[Xar]

Clone DPS classes are easymode for macros because you just have your targeting/assist and follow macros. When you get into traditional groupings creative macros help a lot. On my 70 priest + 70 lock or 66 tankadin...my macros on my priest can target (ctrl + numpad) or fire particular heal spells (numpad [nomod]), fire that heal on the tank without leaving current healing focus (mod:alt).

On my baby 5xdruids I designated 1 as feral for tanking and 1 resto for healing and the resto has a few extra macros and mappings to heal only the tank [target=focus] (focus set up at group time) and then all druids besides the tank druid have key mappings to the same macro so in an emergency I can quickly put 5 rejuv's and/or 5 regrowths on the tank all by using macro modifiers of [target=focus] so they never leave their dps target.

If you haven't done any multiboxing before it's probably much easier to stick with it by playing with all the same casting class and start small, 2 or 3 max (until you can get the feel for being more than one toon at once). I played 2 (lock + priest) using synergy for a long time and it took a while for things to sink in and I sucked at it badly. After things started clicking together the 2 became 1 working together and I could think with both of them at the same time.

[elo]

Heh, personally I love it when people are all 'zomg ezmode!' and then quit before they ever really get out of the gate. and really it's good that if they're gonna quit they quit before they have to pay that first month's subscription.

The fact is this takes a while to get your head around and you've got to put in some upfront work to get things setup. Then once you've done that you've turned every quest into ezmode but made every instance quite a bit harder. On the rare occaision I play one of my 70's now to run an instance I literally just about fall asleep. With multiboxing though there's PLENTY going on and for boss fights I even have to pause my movie so I can concentrate. :)

All of this goes into why I never try to talk people into multiboxing. I think it's something that fits a certain kind of person and they've got to come to it on their own. I've had many people tell me they think it's cool and would like to do it, and I'll help them once they've decided, but never press the issue and actually advise them to really consider it first.

[Narcoz]

Yes I love the misconceptions about boxing to. I was standing in Thunder Bluff one day and talking to a very friendly lvl70 warlock that wanted to take a screen shot so i placed my chars into a formation for the shot. Afterwards I set them on /dance for fun while chatting. Then some 45ish hunter came by and started flaming me like: "Is it worth ~60eur a month to dance in TB?", "Worthless if you ask me!", "For people who cannot play one char ..." etc.

So I told him that it's not complete easy-mode and that one usually take on the new challenges if single person quests get to easy. To make a long story short he continued flaming until the 70 warlock said to him: "Hey loser ST*U! Don't U see his gear. Since he has played these levels solo inspect him for BoP gear yourself! It's you who need to L2P so get going!"

Nothing is better than when somebody backs you up, so you don't have to take the argument yourself :)

[The IT Monkey]

I find the people who say it's easy mode tend to shut up when I say "Every collection quest in the game TIMES FIVE".

[Blokus]

Too bad it doesn't work this way but /played would give these results if it could:

Single Player: 10 days played, 5 days waiting on PUG to form

5 toon Multiboxer: 10 days played, 0 days waiting on PUG to form

[Vyndree]

Judging almost completely by the forums, and when I see people coming and going... It looks like once you pass SM, you're either going to make it or you're going to fizzle out.

For some reason I don't see many people kicking it out after 40. Could be that instances start getting more difficult (though the real challenge starts when you try multiboxing outlands instances), could be that questing gets more spread out and there's less to pick and choose from, could be that the push from 1-40 wasn't enjoyable and there's a long road ahead of the same sort of thing. Who knows.

I nearly kicked the bucket at level 40 -- but that was because 2.3 was still in it's "nerf ele shammies spelldamage coefficient" stage and I was demoralized times 5.