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Morganti
04-27-2011, 12:29 PM
This is still in the planning stages, so opinions and ideas are welcome from all:

EVE Multiboxing Invitational Tournament 1.0

Basic Rules

1. 3v3 Teams
2. All ships are T1 Standard Frigs
3. All modules are T1 Tech Level 1 (no named modules)
4. Location would be CTR's wormhole (to avoid the Popo and other pesky interruptions), so entrance would be somewhere in hisec.
5. Some sort of entry fee (5 million isk?) with either a winner take all or some sort of 1st, 2nd, 3rd place winnings (depending on the number of entries).
6. Multiboxers only (no single boxers joining a multiboxer either, you must control all 3 ships).
7. Time and date is variable, but based on the number of invaders we see during the weekends a weekday would be a better time to plan it.
8. Contestants will be required to post a short write up after the tournament about both the thoughts behind their setup, problems they have, strengths they notice, and how everything actually worked out for them in the tournament. This is to foster improvement in pvp multiboxing for everyone in EVE.

ADDED RULES: SET A

9. To recreate normal pvp conditions the attacking group will be required to prevent at least 1 ship from the defending group from being able to warp away. This is to prevent a completely long range engagement where either player could just run away with no losses. This means every player will be required to have at least one tackler ship on his team of ships. Losing the tackler during the fight negates this requirement for the remainder of that particular fight.
10. Any player that warps one or more of his ships away from the fight automatically forfeits that round, even if they are ahead in kills. A fast alpha strike and run IS a viable strategy normally, but we are trying to expand our abilities here.
11. Attacking group and defending group will be determined randomly (I'll probably flip a coin). Being that every player will be required to have a tackler there is no ship setup bias as to whether you are an attacker or defender, so everyone is on equal footing.
12. No rigs
13. No drones other than light combat drones
14. Repeating for effect: NO NAMED MODULES (i.e. ONLY standard missile launcher 1, not arbalest or malkuth missile launcher, etc).

General thoughts:

First off, why 3v3? Easier entrance requirements pretty much. Not everyone has or wants 5 accounts (or more).

Why T1 Frigs? Low cost so people won't be stressing when their ships go BOOM and lots of options for different styles of playing.

Why T1 and Meta 1 modules? Mostly cost, but also to keep it from being a "I threw more money at my setup than you did and won because of it". Yes, it will make some fits harder...live with it :)

Location? This is variable, but I'd like people to be able to use their own fleet broadcasting, so we cant just make one big fleet and shoot at each other in hisec. If anyone has a good idea with this I'm all ears.

Entry fee? This is a variable amount, but walking away with some "prize" is always nice (other than the bragging rights of course). This fee won't be super high in any event.

Why only multiboxers? Because I want to see improvements in pvp multiboxing in EVE. I want people to feel like they have an idea of what multiboxing pvp is (even if you get your ass kicked in a fight, knowing that you did your best versus the 12 T3 Tengu's will make you feel better. Nothing worse than freaking out and fumbling all over your keyboard when you could have at least killed some or escaped with minimal losses).

Time and Date? All variable. Weekend is doable if someone gives a better idea for a location.

Post game write-up? This is a nonnegotiable part of the event. You will benefit by getting feedback about your plans/tactics and your readers will benefit by getting different angles on how it all went down. Everyone will get a chance to see the winner's tactics and planning and the winner will see what the competition was thinking too. Think of this like the PVP section of the forums here where people share ideas and tactics. Anyone who skips the post game write-up will not be eligible to join in any future events!!

Thoughts? Ideas? Speak up!

Grondir
04-27-2011, 01:21 PM
I'd be up for this mate, you know how I panice when out in the WH and something unexpected occurs lol. Timing is going to be the hardest part for me now, work is getting very busy so may not be able to multibox during the week.

But if we get a set date and time, I'm sure I could arrange to be home (Sorry, can't work today. Major eve boxing tournament :))

Let's see some more interest....

And I promise to only use 3 accounts and not 12 stealth bombers for a super gank :)

Morganti
04-27-2011, 01:39 PM
Stealth Bombers aren't T1 Frigs anyway ;)

Grondir
04-27-2011, 01:55 PM
Yeah, but when its a super gank, who's going to notice lol

theios
04-27-2011, 02:25 PM
I'm in! Mainly because no matter how poorly I do, I know I'll learn something from the experience.

Grondir
04-27-2011, 02:31 PM
That's my reasoning too, and I know I'll do quite poorly due to very little frigate skills and no PvP experience at all

Kedash00
04-27-2011, 03:17 PM
i'm in also! time to start training for something other than mining

RobinGBrown
04-28-2011, 01:03 AM
I'm in too, got 3 Caldari pilots and a bunch of kestrels ready to go. Only issue may be one of timing of the event as I'm not always available.

Morganti
04-28-2011, 08:53 AM
I'll do my best to accommodate everyone's schedules so that the max amount of people can participate. Still working on some particulars and trying to find a good way to hold it in hisec without the usual issues.

Morganti
04-28-2011, 10:51 AM
Added more rules to original post to flesh out the plan.

Lax
04-28-2011, 01:43 PM
This sounds like a pretty cool idea, I would love to see that. Someone should take video :)

I don't know what I'm doing yet but I would gladly join in this fun if people want to make it a regular thing.

Morganti
04-28-2011, 02:31 PM
I was indeed thinking of video and/or shoutcasting the fights from a cloaked ship nearby (don't shoot at me little frigates!). Obviously the other participants won't be allowed in the nearby area of a fight to watch (you don't want to catch a stray missile in the windpipe or anything), so vid/sound would be the logical choice.

Kedash00
04-28-2011, 06:54 PM
i thought this would be a battle royal type fight, like you bring 3 ships and we all meet up and have a huge fight, rather than 3v3 then another 3v3, and so on.
Either way sounds fun but i like the arena type battle royal better imo

Morganti
04-28-2011, 07:47 PM
Battle Royale would be fun, but not nearly as good of a learning process IMO. After all, getting jumped or jumping someone else during normal play isn't anything like a Battle Royale. Remember, we're trying to have fun while at the same time gain a little more expertise and knowledge of how to multibox pvp in EVE (or at least how to not crap your pants when you get attacked and keep a cool head).

RobinGBrown
04-29-2011, 06:02 AM
There's one other possible option for hisec hijinks - use Faction Warfare mechanics. My Caldari trio are in their own separate corp so that I can join FW (if I'm ever ready).

I'm not sure if the advantages outweight the disadvantages with FW but it's a possibility.

Morganti
04-29-2011, 08:58 AM
I hadn't thought of FW, but it sounds risky if we're around anyone else doing faction warfare as well.

Morganti
04-29-2011, 11:26 AM
Current count of those interested:

Myself (depending on the amount of people I may just run things)
Grondir
Theios
Kedash00
Robin
Lax


Anyone else? I want to start nailing down a date/time/place over the next week or so, so if you'd like to be included in the process of deciding date/time you need to post and be added to the list above.

Kedash00
04-29-2011, 01:00 PM
i'm off sunday and monday, or late at night. like 9pm to midnight central.

Ughmahedhurtz
04-29-2011, 02:28 PM
I'd be up for this.

Kedash00
04-29-2011, 04:41 PM
3 frigs, outfitted and ready for destruction! gimme a time and place.

Ughmahedhurtz
04-29-2011, 06:35 PM
Something I might suggest is a moratorium on intel between fights, so no forum posts, video, IRC, killmail, whatever until things are over or you'll just have guys stacking resists/capabilities to target whoever the next fight is.

Morganti
04-30-2011, 02:30 PM
Everyone will already be in the wormhole with no way to change fittings.

Ughmahedhurtz
05-01-2011, 02:05 AM
/smacks forehead

Kromtor
05-02-2011, 07:11 AM
heh, just remembering a goonfleet frigate tourney that I entered, it was a free for all with no restrictions. people had decked out insane ships worth ridiculous amounts. i had my 13 frigates with moderate equipment, probably about 10 million each. we all warped to a location and a smart bombing party pooping BS warped with us and obliterated nearly everyone. Hundreds of ships gone in a couple moments though it took about 10 minutes for my overviews to catch up with what had happened. i lost all my ships and had no spares so it was a bust for me but still pretty hilarious.

so be careful for suicide gankers and dont clump up :)

Grondir
05-02-2011, 07:20 AM
we'll be running it inside our C1 WH, so shouldn't happen lol

Sounds like an interesting idea though......:)

aboron
05-04-2011, 11:09 AM
Wow, happy to see this hasn't gone off already.

I'd be willing to join, i've never 3-boxed pvp before. (i don't count structure bashes since that's not much to coordinate)

I've also got some little faction goodies i could donate as prizes.

Morganti
05-04-2011, 05:36 PM
Announcements coming shortly!! Get to work on those setups! :D

Morganti
05-05-2011, 12:18 AM
Ok, I've been playing with some ideas and have found one that will give us the ability to have the tourney in hisec while still having the ability to use broadcasts. This setup comes with a requirement!

EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TOURNEY MUST HAVE LEADERSHIP 2 TRAINED ON ONE OF THEIR TOONS!

Let me repeat that:

EVERYONE who wants to be in this 3v3 needs to train leadership 2 on one of the toons they will be bringing. This will be your squad leader and will allow you to have a 4 man squad (but you only need 3 for this tourney). I will be fleeting the current fighting teams up with Baton who can support multiple squadrons and each team will be given his own squadron. At that point it is a simple matter of clicking a few buttons to be able to only broadcast targets to your group. I'll throw up some screenshots of this at a later time so no one can claim ignorance, and we will be testing to make sure you aren't broadcasting to the whole fleet before the fight starts.

With that said, the tourney WILL be in hisec at a secret location (no party crashers please). The location will only be given to those in the tourney and will not be given out until the day of the tourney (frigates fly fast...even 20 jumps isn't that far ;) ).

I'm tentatively looking at the weekend of May 20-22 as the dates. Everyone please post availability for those three days (I know we have some euro's who want to play, so keep them in mind US folks and vice versa). Post your available times in EVE time so we're all on the same page.

I will try to do some form of color commentary (most likely on vent if I can borrow Souca's for us to use or if someone has one that we can use) for each fight so everyone can stay interested and have something to entertaining to laugh at between fights ;)

Everyone who comes to the tourney will be parked in a safe spot and not allowed to go back to the station to change anything once they have come into the system. Failure to abide by any rules means automatic expulsion from the tourney as well as never being invited to join in any other multiboxing events. I will be scanning ships to ensure correct modules are being used (and no rigs), so everyone read the rules again and ask questions if you aren't sure about a certain fit or whatever.

aboron
05-05-2011, 09:47 AM
Will there be a way for a winner to replace a ship somehow for use in a later round?

It will rapidly be come a 1v1 fest (or 3 on 2) otherwise. Maybe just record the fits for each team member and allow getting the exact same setup as replacement, if you win but suffer losses?

Or are the rounds going to be so far apart that you can just reselect 3 entirely different ships based on the first experience?


As for eve times, I could be available:
20th - 2100 - 0500
21st - 1400 - 0500
22nd - 1400 - 0400

Morganti
05-05-2011, 10:07 AM
I was debating this. What do you guys think? 3 fresh ships for each round would mean having to go back to a station and pick up the ones you've lost, but recording the fits would mean you couldn't change fittings once everything started. The only downfall is the added cost for those without much funds. I'm willing to play it either way. At the most there would be 3 fights for one person (using a bracket system), so assuming you only survived with one ship each round that would require 7 ships total. Is everyone ok with that, or would you prefer to go for the "bring 3 and fight with what's left each round" setup?

aboron
05-06-2011, 10:27 AM
I'd really like to see each match start with 3 on each side so we can all learn better ways to control more ships at once, and the only fair way to do that after we've seen each other's ships is to record the fits and only allow exact replacements.

So in effort to drive this to be more about the multi-boxing performance, I'll volunteer a 40M isk grand prize and a 20M isk runner up prize. I'm also willing to help find/pay/incentive a trustworthy 3rd party to record and verify the fits each round, so all multiboxers who want to can participate.

This should then reduce everyone's maximum risk to the cost of 5 frigates, since anyone making it to the last round will be getting something back.

This can also eliminate the need to charge entry fees, so an entrant's median loss should be around 16mil, with first place definitely coming out ahead and second place breaking even or better depending on ship prices and prior round losses.

aboron
05-08-2011, 09:44 AM
My wife just reminded me that her family reunion is happening over the weekend of the 20th and we'll be expected to show up both days. Oh well, my offer for the prize money still stands even if this happens on a day I can't attend, with the stipulation that someone fraps it, hehe. I can still make it on friday night, or those previous times on any other weekend.

Morganti
05-09-2011, 12:04 PM
No one is saying available times anyway, so it doesn't have to be that weekend.

Grondir
05-09-2011, 02:23 PM
Sort out any dates matey & I'll try to attend. Weekends are easier for me to do due to work and if you can give Eve times for when its happening, I'll be there ):

Morganti
05-16-2011, 11:28 AM
No one is replying with available dates/times, so am I to assume that interest has waned?

Ughmahedhurtz
05-16-2011, 03:20 PM
Considering the family visits and work stuff over the next few weeks, gonna be tough for me to declare a time when I can be available. 9pm-2am CST is usually OK and weekends if family/friends aren't visiting or forcing me to come consume liquor and shoot things.

Grondir
05-16-2011, 03:27 PM
Same here, you guys are going to have to organise it and i'll just attend. Weekends are better for me because this will probably happen late at night for me but i'll definately attend :)

TheHatedOne
05-16-2011, 05:51 PM
Don't worry, we'll be occupied for a little bit....

theios
05-17-2011, 11:25 AM
I apologize for not responding with a time frame. Real life kinda blew up in my face the last two weeks. Due to a lot of uncertainty in my personal schedule, I really can't commit to anything right now. I might be able to play this weekend, or I might not. I really couldn't say. =(

Morganti
05-17-2011, 11:47 AM
We got war decced, so this is gonna be on hold anyway.

Kromtor
05-17-2011, 08:27 PM
What is this real life and why would one want one?

Who war decced you? I always thought I'd be war decced but it never happened.

Morganti
05-18-2011, 08:14 AM
Let Us Sleep wardecced us. Not sure where they got our name from, but I think they'll be disappointed when they find out there's only actually 3 people in the corporation for them to try to kill.