Is it possible to make all 5 clients on Keyclone maximized to full screen then use hotkey for pip to switch between them?

[LancerX]

Is that possible?

[keyclone]

in theory, yes. setting it up would be a pain

keyclone/setup/maximizer
reset
hit '+'
adjust for full screen
set name properly

hit '+' again
adjust for full screen using the edit fields at the top (avoids potentially clicking background region)

repeat for all your regions
--

then in keyclone/setup/command editor
set maxfps to 40+
set the maxfpsbk to 5.. you won't see them, so drop it real low until you bring to the foreground

let me know how that goes.

[LancerX]

in theory, yes. setting it up would be a pain

keyclone/setup/maximizer
reset
hit '+'
adjust for full screen
set name properly

hit '+' again
adjust for full screen using the edit fields at the top (avoids potentially clicking background region)

repeat for all your regions
--

then in keyclone/setup/command editor
set maxfps to 40+
set the maxfpsbk to 5.. you won't see them, so drop it real low until you bring to the foreground

let me know how that goes.

Ok man thank you so very much for such quick and awesome replies. This is why I really love keyclone and recommend it to everyone because the support is so freaking awesome.

Anyway I got it working like you said and it works really great. Its running perfect now, thanks. One problem is my keyclone will crash sometimes and then I have to shutdown all my wow clients and use keyclone to launch them again in order to use pip correctly. Any suggestions on a way around this? Again thanks for such great help.

Ok i just tried to go in and uncheck auto add and now if keyclone crashes I have to manually add each window back and pip then want work still. Any suggestions?

[Diamndzngunz]

One problem is my keyclone will crash sometimes and then I have to shutdown all my wow clients and use keyclone to launch them again in order to use pip correctly. Any suggestions on a way around this? Again thanks for such great help.

Are you running Vista.

And just a tip, you don't have to ask a whole question for the name of a thread. A simple title like "A quick Question" then a question in the thread would be 10x better.

[The IT Monkey]

One problem is my keyclone will crash sometimes and then I have to shutdown all my wow clients and use keyclone to launch them again in order to use pip correctly. Any suggestions on a way around this? Again thanks for such great help.

Are you running Vista.

And just a tip, you don't have to ask a whole question for the name of a thread. A simple title like "A quick Question" then a question in the thread would be 10x better.Actually, personaly I prefer at least a hint of what the question is in the subject.
It does several things,
1) Lets me know if I can help them with their question without having to even go into the thread.
2) Lets me know if this thread has a possible answer to a question I have.

Just saying the forum gets awful crowded with "Question", "Quick Question" and "Need Help". None of these let me know anything without me having to go in and read through the entire post (past the "first off let me say great site"s and "I love such and such program BUT"s).

I would rather see post titles the way Lancerx did it than a "Is this possible?" title.

Just my two cents.

@Lancerx: Sorry, have no answer for you there... I would suggest just biting the bullet and restarting your instances of wow with Keyclone. Are you experiencing a LOT of crashes? I run pretty stable for at least a couple hours every night... and by pretty stable I mean no crashes.

[keyclone]

if its crashing i would like to know what youa re doing to crash it. that way, i could weed it out and resolve the issue.

as for restarting keyclone and pip regions... that's on the list

[bryanc]

EDIT Oops, I didn't catch IT Monkey's post above mine... my comment was completely redundant. I agree with him.

</hijack>

[LancerX]

if its crashing i would like to know what youa re doing to crash it. that way, i could weed it out and resolve the issue.

as for restarting keyclone and pip regions... that's on the list

Ok well I stopped using Pip because it was causing some resource problems I believe. I am running 5 clients on one pc, one of the clients, my main is running max gfx. My machine is pretty fast but when trying PIP I started having some crashes and severe lag issues so I stopped using it and everything seems to be working fine again. I wish I could use Pip , so if you can give me any ideas to make it runner a little smoother I would be all ears, its such a great feature. MY specs btw are a AMD Phenom Qaud 9700 3GB Kingston Low latench memory PC8500, SATA 300 HDD 32mb buffer 500g, BFG 8800GTS graphics card. I think thats the basics of what I have and it runs 5 clients with no lag even in Shat unless I run PIP, which really makes me sad :( , cause I love that feature. I even tried setting it up where I had 1 big screen on left side my LCD and 4 small sqaures down the right side but that just made it worse. Anyway maybe you guys have an idea of a way I can run pip maybe. Thanks again to everyone for all the help.

[keyclone]

@LancerX

you need to restrain the fps on your wows. set their maxfps to 40-60 and maxfpsbk to 5-20.

if you don't, then wow will try to max out its fps, not leaving much for anything else. PiP is just resizing windows... which does take some processing power to scale up, but that's brief. if you left enough cpu/gpu by restraining the fps, your PiP should be fine.

let me know how it goes.

[LancerX]

@LancerX

you need to restrain the fps on your wows. set their maxfps to 40-60 and maxfpsbk to 5-20.

if you don't, then wow will try to max out its fps, not leaving much for anything else. PiP is just resizing windows... which does take some processing power to scale up, but that's brief. if you left enough cpu/gpu by restraining the fps, your PiP should be fine.

let me know how it goes.
ok Ty, I will let you know how it goes. I was running a ton of addons on all my clients but I went through and took out what I didnt need, hopefully this will help performance. Ima go try PIP now and see how it works.

I guess with 5 clients running ima restrict maxfpsbk to 5 and maxfps to 40. Do you think this would be wise? I was concerned if I went to low on a client that it would cause fps lag.

[keyclone]

reducing the maxfpsbk will nto effect how your character performs in the game... just how it renders on screen. and since you won't see the clients, since they will be behind your main window, 5 fps should be more then enough

[asonimie]

reducing the maxfpsbk will nto effect how your character performs in the game... just how it renders on screen. and since you won't see the clients, since they will be behind your main window, 5 fps should be more then enoughWhat about my setup - I run a main window and 4 smaller pips along the top 15% of my screen with maximizer, so although the clone windows aren't "active" in front, they are still visible... will running the lowres macro and setting maxfpsbk to 5 kill my clones ability to maintain follow etc... or help it. Right now I havent messed with the maxfps or maxfpsbk settings and things run pretty well. If im runnin through shatt in primetime and hit a lag spike sometimes I'll lose one of my shared cpu clones (5 chars - 4 cpus = 2 clients share a cpu... which is just a tad slower than the standalone clients). How would you recommend I set this up to maximize fps but still maintain functionality with my clones.

Thanks!

[asonimie]

edit: double post

[zanthor]

@Lancerx: Sorry, have no answer for you there... I would suggest just biting the bullet and restarting your instances of wow with Keyclone. Are you experiencing a LOT of crashes? I run pretty stable for at least a couple hours every night... and by pretty stable I mean no crashes. My KeyClones been running for 8 days now... I close wow each day but leave KeyClone up and running while I do other things...

[keyclone]

(asonimie ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=11024') casts resurrect on the thread)

if you are seeing lag spikes in such areas, and your alts are already @ 5maxfpsbk, it most likely has to do with the amount of memory you have on your system (assuming your details are too high)

@zanthor
i believe those problems were resolved... about .. 8 months ago :D

[asonimie]

No I haven't set up any keyclone maxfps settings yet, but I would like to as I'm sure it will maximize my setup over just letting wow allocate resources equally among the clients. My question was, given my setup as described above, would setting maxfpsbk to 5 or so help considering my windows aren't buried or minimized, they are just smaller and positioned above my main.

BTW: my system is 2.8quadcore, 8gbram, 512 8800gts playing on a 24"LCD split into 5 regions with maximizer.

[keyclone]

your system specs are similar to mine (i'm using 260s)... and i run them at 30/42 just to insure i have plenty of cpu/gpu left over.
setting them to 5/42 would also work and would leave even more cpu/gpu for spike situations

of course, i also have the details set to low
http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Macro:Graphics_Settings

[Jheusse]

One significant savings in resource usage I haven't seen mentioned:

Turn off sound for all but 1 WoW window. Makes a big difference. Esc>sound and video>etc

And Keyclone's right, get the Low, Medium, High details for graphics settings macros from the wiki, they help a lot too.