Who's Your Top Dawg DPS?

[Redbeard]

So I have a group going that I am hoping will be successful in heroics.. working on some character transfers to get it going.

I want to start up a good secondary group that will just destroy.

Curious how your groups are doing and who is on top right now? I ask here rather than the wow forums as you guys are obviously more aware of the issues boxers sometimes have maximizing dps.

I already have my "fun" group, I am just looking for death now =P

Anyways.

[katsurahama]

In my experience, I've found that the easiest classes to get maximum dps from are demonology warlocks, hunters, and cat druids.

If I ever get everyone to level 85, I'm looking forward to running the following groups in BGs to raise hell:
5x demon locks
5x shadow priests
5x frost mages
4x rogues + druid
4x hunters + priest
4x dks + priest
4x enh shaman + druid

Added: I recently read somewhere that shadow priests are currently the highest DPS class in the game. I don't remember if it was pve or pvp or even where I read it...

[Chilaxx]

You can check max dps for PvE here: http://stateofdps.com/

I haven't multiboxed in a long while, so can't help with the ontopic question ;-)
Good luck tho!

[zenga]

You can check max dps for PvE here: http://stateofdps.com/

I haven't multiboxed in a long while, so can't help with the ontopic question ;-)
Good luck tho!

That site (and many others who show top parses) are not really showing the state of dps, but rather what can be done. Some specs are heavily depending on procs /crits and the buffs they get (as a shadow priest or feral druid you are much more likely to get dark intent in our raid than as an ele shaman)? What it shows is basically the top 200 parses where rng was totally in your advantage. Just an example that I make up:

- if the average fire mage does 20k, then the top 200 there will do 40k due to extreme luck of crit procs
- if the average ele shaman does 19,5k then the top 200 there will do 30k, since it's limited how many spells can crit extra

That would show you that fire mage does 10k more dps than ele shaman, while actually it would only be 0,5k.

Again fake example, but just to show you whats stateofdps is showing.

Best way for me to compare dps is compare the simcraft parses of each Best in Slot gear list per spec. That is way more accurate than stateofdps.

[Ualaa]

You could look at WorldofRaids or Wow Web Stats, or whatever the currently used raid parsing tool is.

Take a look at a lot of different logs.
Especially guilds that are as progressed as your current guild.
To get a feel for an 'average', or happy medium.

Someone might have an exceptional night one night.
But looking at a larger group of logs gets you closer to a true average.

[Svpernova09]

Mangle spamming feral druid.

[Redbeard]

I was more interested in your personal anecdotes rather than uberepeenraiders, but I will go peek around those sites.

And curse you svper, I still never figured out why my mangle macro I made did more dps than my shred one. You sir tell no lies.

[Ualaa]

So far in Cata...

I've only really played Frost DK's and Feral Druids for DPS.
My Disc Priest's with their Smite spam (low 80's now) doesn't quite compare to either group at 85th.

Druids easily out DPS the DK's and by a large margin in worse gear.

#show
/castsequence reset=target Mangle(Cat Form), Rake(Cat Form), Mangle(Cat Form), Mangle(Cat Form), Rip(Cat Form)

[Kang]

Are you looking for pvp death or pve death?
For PVE, Arcane mages are very good at blowing things up very quickly.
Shadow priests are good dps, but the rotation is tricky to optimize.

Are feral druids heavily gear dependent? I could never put out very good dps with mine. I switched to boomer and bumped up my output considerably. I had better ilvl caster gear from healing, but not by a huge margin.

[Redbeard]

PVE.

Im not sure on the gear dependence, but dps druid suffers somewhat from positional requirements.

[Ualaa]

Melee are fairly dependent on having a good weapon.

My Druids have 346 crafted two-handers.
My DK's have 359 pvp two-handers.

The Druids basically have full honor gear.
The DK's have full honor gear, plus have replaced weapons and two additional pieces with Conquest upgrades.

[Shania]

Arc mages vary but can do around 11k dps using 2 step macro.
I dont understand why when I use fire and step macro that my dps drops as much as 3k or more.

In middle of leveling my locks and druid so soon too see how they go

[luxlunae]

Arc mages vary but can do around 11k dps using 2 step macro.
I dont understand why when I use fire and step macro that my dps drops as much as 3k or more.

In middle of leveling my locks and druid so soon too see how they go

i found this too! Maybe its my lack of gear (about 330 ilevel) but getting much better dps on heroic length fights as arcane.

My boomkin also does a good job, my frost mage (for replenish) does terrible dps, and my shadowpriest does the highest dps BUT is also my healer when I don't bring an outside healer so she's the only caster rocking any bought epics, so its not a fair comparison.

In retrospect I would have planned to get my replenish from a second priest or a lock and not double mages, because of how pathetic the frost mage is.

[Shania]

My hunter would be the top dps but thats cause its geared ahhhah, then again surv hunters dps with less gear does pretty damn well too.

I still do not understand why my mages as fire do very bad dps, might actually post in macros and see if anyone has ideas

[zenga]

I still do not understand why my mages as fire do very bad dps, might actually post in macros and see if anyone has ideas

Fire mages are really heavily dependant on rng / crit. It seems to be either all the way or nothing.

[Svpernova09]

Fire mages are really heavily dependant on rng / crit. It seems to be either all the way or nothing.

This and they're also very proc dependent. If you're not using your procs or combustion well, you're DPS will really suffer.

[Shania]

Maybe my 4 mages are cursed by rng :(

Will have to have a closer look at them again as fire and see if they are all using their procs, Im sure they were.

They were terrible in BG as Fire, took them in as fire for fun, and it was far from fun lol.