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scottig
02-23-2008, 03:53 AM
What do you guys do? You set-up different cast bars for each alt with /assist macros? Wait till they all die 8D.Was just wondering, I'm new to multiboxing. I have 4 shaman on Hamoarush. I really enjoy boxing till the main dies then it gets hairy. Link to any threads would be appreciated.

bodefeld
02-23-2008, 09:20 AM
This is discussed in the macros forum.

Basically, what you have to do is work with "/focus charactername".
In a normal situation, the focus of all characters would be set to the main character. Any damage spell would then be typically macroed as "/assist focus /cast spellname".
When your main character dies you simply hit the key that assigns the next-in-line character to be the new main. And so on.
This way you generally only need one type of macro per spell. You do need, however, N-1 keys to assign main characters in a group of N.

Regards.

elo
02-23-2008, 04:01 PM
I made a macro to Release Spirit on all at once. :)

bryanc
02-23-2008, 04:11 PM
I don't let my main die. 8)

Since I'm a PVEer -- running pally, priest, magex3 -- when my tank falls that's usually a wipe. When it happens I try to keep calm, bubble up, go all out with the mages and try to keep the priest up. If I'm lucky the battle was almost over and then I can rez.

PS: you can continue to target with the main after they are dead.

Xzin
02-23-2008, 04:28 PM
When my main dies, I am usually out of mana on my squishies anyway - and respawning is generally faster in BGs than rezzing up or regrouping. But I do highly suggest /focused based targeting.

Diamndzngunz
02-24-2008, 06:05 AM
Like they said..

I use the F1 - F4 keys to /focus (Character Name)
Then F5 to /follow Focus

This is something I had befor.


I got you covered. This is how I have my macros set up, and let me tell you I dont have to worry about nothing, no more /assist.

Toon1 (Main)
F1 /focus Toon1
F2 /focus Toon2
F3 /focus Toon3
F4 /focus Toon4

F5 /follow Toon1
F6 /follow Toon2
F7 /follow Toon3
F8 /follow Toon4

Toon2
F1 /focus Toon1
F2 /focus Toon2
F3 /focus Toon3
F4 /focus toon4

F5 /follow Toon1
F6 /follow Toon2
F7 /follow Toon3
F8 /follow Toon4

Toon3
F1 /focus Toon1
F2 /focus Toon2
F3 /focus Toon3
F4 /focus toon4

F5 /follow Toon1
F6 /follow Toon2
F7 /follow Toon3
F8 /follow Toon4

Toon4

F1 /focus Toon1
F2 /focus Toon2
F3 /focus Toon3
F4 /focus toon4

F5 /follow Toon1
F6 /follow Toon2
F7 /follow Toon3
F8 /follow Toon4


So When I'm on my main I hit F1 to /focus my self my alts will then focus me.

I run around and hit keys to cast spells. Now when I hit a key when I have a mob targeted my alt will also cast that spell without having to target the mob

Some macros I use

/cast [target=focustarget] Chain Lightning
/cast [target=focustarget] Earth Shock
/cast [target=focustarget] Frost Shock
/cast [target=focustarget] Lightning Bolt


You bind these to keys on all your characters you will have no problem with playing. This made the game so much easy.

I hope this helps you. If I die. I just change the screen to the next character and change the focus and follow its easy

Skuggomann
02-24-2008, 10:28 AM
If i die on one i just try to die on all and rezz upp :)

blaznbox
02-24-2008, 02:11 PM
If i die on one i just try to die on all and rezz upp :)This is also what i do, but i only run 3 characters(all locks). So if one dies the rest seem to follow rather quickly.

Toned
02-24-2008, 03:13 PM
The setup I use is /focus macros for each toon bound to the insert, home, page up, delete, and end keys. Then I have all my other macros based with /follow focus, /cast [target=focustarget] spellname etc... So I can swap mains at any given moment without missing a beat :P.

Lokked
02-24-2008, 05:10 PM
Do not use /assist for targetting.

Use /cast [target=focustarget] XXX Spell

F1 on all chars>>> /focus {main char name}
F2 on all chars>>> /focus {2nd char name}
F3 on all chars>>> /focus {3nd char name}
F4 on all chars>>> /focus {4nd char name}
F5 on all chars>>> /focus {5nd char name}

1 on all chars>>> /follow focus

Similar to whats stated above.

Main dies, press F2 (assuming second char is living) then press 1 (to have all chars now following 2nd char). Alts will automatically target off the 2nd char, in this case, as soon as you press F2.

Lokked

keyclone
02-25-2008, 01:10 PM
depending on your setup... as of v1.8d, you could also use keyclone's PiP to swap your dead main for one of your alts.
(BOOBS extension to be available tonight...)

this way, you can continue playing on the same screen but with a different character as main.

process:

1. main dies
2. curse the gods... swear.. bang desk... (you have <1 sec for this step)
3. hit your PiP hotkey and your desired clone's screen pops in front of you
4. hit your 'set focus to X' key ... setting the new focus for all your clones

5. seek revenge

no mouse movements required.
of course... PiP only works on the local machine
(how the hell would i move an app from one machine to another?! .. and yes, people have asked...)

Jaws5
02-25-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm assumeing that you mean PVP, BG.s etc. most of the time if you main dies others are close also. I still use main for traget even after death.
I still fire away with other 4 until OOM or death. I never run, never give up. also fight until last drop of mana, health. Most of the time I take them with me. ( I go you go) :)

Grelius
02-25-2008, 02:59 PM
I have a single set focus button. Using the nodead target modifier, if my main is alive focus is set to him, if he is dead, it moves onto the next line in the macro, which checks if my 2nd toon is alive and sets focus to him. It has a line for each of my toons in order.

So I set the order of the focus calls in the macro to align with my different wow windows, so when my main dies, I just move my eyes sequentially through my windows until I find the next person in the macro who is alive, hit the macro and now everyone is assisting the toon that I'm concentrating on.

Sorry, don't have the macro to type up here at work.

Pulphero
02-25-2008, 07:10 PM
So here's my issue... I get by. But lets say you doing PvP... your main dies. You hit your button to shift to your new Main. Which is what I do.

So now everybody is working fine - targeting right, following right... but lets talk about movement.

I use multi-box and dont pass my asdw keys... because they move my main guy around... but when he dies then the others just stand there.. So then I got this idea to use 'fght' on my second main... since I really only use 12 keys to fight. but then if my 2nd tank dies I am kinda screwed...

I hear that othres use Shift-asdw or shift&alt-asdw or shift&alt*ctrl-asdw, i tried this but being born with 4 fingers and 1 thumb per hand. how can I use 3 of them to hold the shift/alt/ctrl keys and still move...?

Quix
02-25-2008, 10:03 PM
So here's my issue... I get by. But lets say you doing PvP... your main dies. You hit your button to shift to your new Main. Which is what I do.

So now everybody is working fine - targeting right, following right... but lets talk about movement.

I use multi-box and dont pass my asdw keys... because they move my main guy around... but when he dies then the others just stand there.. So then I got this idea to use 'fght' on my second main... since I really only use 12 keys to fight. but then if my 2nd tank dies I am kinda screwed...

I hear that othres use Shift-asdw or shift&alt-asdw or shift&alt*ctrl-asdw, i tried this but being born with 4 fingers and 1 thumb per hand. how can I use 3 of them to hold the shift/alt/ctrl keys and still move...?I use the "Focus" way of doing things. For movement, I have a mouse connected directly to my 2nd "Main",,,, it takes about .3 sec to reach for that other mouse, & then I just use the mouse buttons for movement.

Atorifan
03-03-2008, 03:32 AM
I'm not sure what I was doing/did wrong. I made the /focus bj macro, hit f1, as suggested above, and cast the heal button. Bj healed the target, the one clone I was experimenting with healed Bj, not Bj's target.

Nixi
03-03-2008, 04:44 AM
My team has two guys that can CC so I avoided using the focusMain method for controling my guys. To the boxers that use CC, how do you sheep/banish/seduce/shackle/etc when you're not using focus for these abilities?

I doubt i'm overlooking anything. It's a choice you have to make when setting up how control your toons. You either use the focus to follow and assist your main with no easy way to target for CC, or use another method to target leaving the focus function for crowd control.

beyond-tec
03-03-2008, 06:19 AM
easiest way is a focus macro where you check if the toon you want to focus is alive.
if not the macro continues until it has found a living toon =)

then assist the focus

but the main problem most people ignore is:

I use my focus function for polymorph + re-polymorph during a combat
so I can't use focus + assist-focus :)

creating big /assist if nodead macros which checks each toon are too long
for the macro function of WoW so I only check two toons:

assist tank if alive, if not assist priest, if both are dead do nothing and just die :)

accused
03-03-2008, 06:48 AM
just a quick comment for the one who uses f1-f4 for focusing main and f5-f8 to follow that main:

why not combine those into 1 key? my f1-f4 keys are used to both focus and follow whoever i choose as my main. i've never really had a random problem that i needed my alts to NOT follow me, so this just made sense.

this is an actual question tho, not rhetorical. is there a benefit that you gain by seperating these functions into 2 keystrokes?

Toned
03-18-2008, 08:09 PM
you only need 6 keys... 5 focus keys, and 1 /follow focus. Actually with some [conditions] you might be able to break it down to 2 keys. The master focus key and /follow focus.

Bigfish
03-18-2008, 08:25 PM
My "main" is a 17.7k health Pally who's sole purpose in PvP is to draw fire from people thinking "kill the brain". Works amazingly well a lot of the time. Chances are, if he dies, the others are soon to follow, so I just roll with it if it happens. Or rez him if the group finishes off whoever is left.

In PvE, he's the main tank as well, so yeah he goes down, they all go down.

yarr
03-18-2008, 10:59 PM
depending on your setup... as of v1.8d, you could also use keyclone's PiP to swap your dead main for one of your alts.
(BOOBS extension to be available tonight...)

this way, you can continue playing on the same screen but with a different character as main.

process:

1. main dies
2. curse the gods... swear.. bang desk... (you have <1 sec for this step)
3. hit your PiP hotkey and your desired clone's screen pops in front of you
4. hit your 'set focus to X' key ... setting the new focus for all your clones

5. seek revenge

no mouse movements required.
of course... PiP only works on the local machine
(how the hell would i move an app from one machine to another?! .. and yes, people have asked...)

so is that why keyclone costs 20 bucks now? :D

I was a bit surprised at that when i DL'ed it on my laptop, but if i can figure out how to do what you've just described, i will be pretty impressed! =P

keyclone
03-19-2008, 01:03 AM
@yarr
does this help?

[Keyclone] PiP explained ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=4534')

pinotnoir
03-20-2008, 12:13 AM
You only need two macros..

Set Focus Macro
/focus [modifier:lshift] pinotblanc; [modifier:alt] pinotnoir; [modifier:ctrl] shenlong;[modifier:rshift] icewine;pinotgrigio

(you could make it say just mod instead of modifier.. I am too lazy to change it.)

Bind this to a key... I use F9
1. If I press the Left Shift + F9 it makes pinotblanc focus
2. If I press alt + F9 it makes pinotnoir focus
3. If I press ctrl + F9 it makes shenlong focus
4. If I press the Right Shift + F9 it makes icewine focus
5. If I press just F9 it makes pinotgrigio focus

Next macro is the follow macro.
/target focus
/follow

This is bound to my Page Up key. I press that when I want them to follow me. I bound my page down key to have them spread out so its close to the follow.

I am pretty happy with this and it cut the amount of macros and keys I need to bind. If one of your guys dies in battle just change focus with the F9 and modifier and continue nuking.

yarr
03-20-2008, 02:34 AM
@yarr
does this help?

[Keyclone] PiP explained ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=4534')

Not exactly.

I use wowmaximizer manually, not through keyclone, don't exactly know how to use keyclone's maximizer.

I've set up 4 regions on the maximizer tab of keyclone (even set up hotkeys) but cant figure out how to actualy use them.

not exxactly the correct thread to be discussing this so apologies to everyone else. If need be keyclone can just PM me the answer =D

JoeWunsch
03-20-2008, 05:26 AM
Personally I use this macro :


/clearfocus
/focus Toon1
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
/focus Toon2
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
/focus Toon3
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
/focus Toon4
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]

Basically what it does, if the main character is alive, it will focus him. If he is dead, will focus the 2nd, if first two are dead 3rd, then the fourth.

It doesnt work in some situations, like if the entire party is dead, you must manually /focus the main character.

Works very nice for pvp though, if my main dies, i can switch to my second character and have the clones following him in about 3 seconds.