vista sp1

[Catamer]

I didn't actually think MS could make Vista sux any worse than it already did, so I put SP1 on all 3 machines of mine.

Now I"m having problems with keyclone maximizer but only on one of the machines, works fine on the other two. Thank you so much MS for the spooge pack 1.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

If you knew 10% of the list of broken shit they fixed in SP1, you'd be putting in more effort to discovering the root cause instead of by default blaming SP1. :P Though I suppose that it's pretty telling when you think about some of the basic stuff that was fixed.

[Catamer]

I take it back, maximizer is having trouble on all 3 machines, it seems to have the best chance of working if it is a cold boot, a hibernate and it doesn't work.

I get a "MMDEVAPI device..." showing up in taskbar, if that happens wow never gets maximized and the keystrokes never make it to wow. usually have to kill wow from the task manager. I guess I'll try to uninstall SP1.

[elo]

I'm curious for the perspective of you Vista guys on what exactly Vista provides that XP doesn't. Let's table the security thing, just label it good and move on to features of the OS that would compel someone to upgrade.

I'm not a Vista fan (know of no compelling reason to use it, hence this post), but I'm not anti-Microsoft. I play in Linux and Windows XP daily. So let's hear it, off the cuff, Pro's and Con's.

[Shogun]

It came with the new PC (I was too lazy to build my own all over again for the 20th time) and I didn't see any reason to install XP. Had 0 problems so far, hoping Maximizer and SP1 will work though, else I'll have to delay installing SP1... Not having to use horizontal span for 2 screens to get a decent FPS is nice though ;)

[Ughmahedhurtz]

DX10 is the only thing I (occasionally) care about from Vista. That might change but it is still too new and driver support and overall stability just aren't where I want them to be yet. Arguably, I'm a picky sonofabitch when it comes to system stability, so take that as you will.

[Catamer]

I had tried to upgrade to XP ( because XP is an upgrade over vista on many things ) but I was unable to find drivers. I have found the coolest thing, I was able to slipstream all of the drivers I was missing into a new XP disk. I started with an XP-SP2 disk and made a new XP-SP2 + slipstreamed drivers DVD that was about 760M large. It worked perfectly and found drivers for everything on my motherboard and my video card. For those of you who might want to get rid of Vista for a more user friendly OS I followed the directions below, using nLite at the end to create my new disk image. took longer to dowload the drivers than it did to slipstream and burn a new disk. The only downside is that they only support 32 bit XP.

Follow the directions at this link to create your own slipstream disk.
http://users.pandora.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm
It is easiest to just add driver packs to the disk.
http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/overview.php
I would recommend adding The Chipset and Mass Storage at least.

[Stabface]

The reason I upgraded was I was building a new machine and needed a new OS license anyhow. So why buy XP when it's EOL soon... Vista Ultimate cost me 45$ (Microsoft store 4tw), runs everything I use just fine. Much improved 64 bit support from what I understand... the only app I've tried so far that doesn't work correctly is iTunes (won't rip/burn CDs or sync to iPod/iPhone - but that's actually a 64 bit thing and not a Vista thing). It's actually MORE stable than XP, the only time I've had it crash is when I had swapped some RAM and had the timings wrong.

I really think Vista just has a stigma about it, just like every other time MS comes out with a new OS or version of Office or what have you, it's always the same "oh god don't upgrade it's horrible" yet in 2-3 years everyone is using it even though the service packs really don't fix much.

/shrug.