Does this count as wintrade?

[Emo?]

Hello, this morning i decided to get the arena cap for my DK team, i am atm lowering my MMR to be able to cap my pts for the next 3 weeks. Anyway im going with 2x 2v2 teams at the same time and i manage to get in the same arena with my two teams. So i had to decide which ones are going to win etc.

Will blizzard count this as a "personal wintrade" or how do you think they react? Im on 0-300 rating with my 2v2 teams and are only caping pts, so its like 3-5 games this occures.

Best regards

[Ualaa]

Doubt you'll have any issue.

If you're going for five wins per team.
And not as a top rank team that is trading wins to get Gladiator or whatever.
It probably is win trading in practice, but in a way no one would care about.

Also meeting once, whatever.
Meeting fifty times...

[Emo?]

Yeh and in a way i cant change the outcome off, i have to queue with one team and wait for with the next one to queue ultill they are inside a fight, which woudnt make sence. Its not my intention to do it, but cant do anything about it if thats the way the system works.

[Nikita]

At what time do you que your team? Actually not a bad idea to get your points each week, instead of paying/begging ppl to boost you.

[Svpernova09]

It is against the rules. I think it falls under what Blizzard would claim "spirit of the game". However the likely hood of your accounts being "caught" is unknown. Seems most things like this only ever draws Blizzard's attention if it gets reported to them.

[AgentSnipps]

Hello, this morning i decided to get the arena cap for my DK team, i am atm lowering my MMR to be able to cap my pts for the next 3 weeks. Anyway im going with 2x 2v2 teams at the same time and i manage to get in the same arena with my two teams. So i had to decide which ones are going to win etc.

Will blizzard count this as a "personal wintrade" or how do you think they react? Im on 0-300 rating with my 2v2 teams and are only caping pts, so its like 3-5 games this occures.

Best regards

Legal or not you could always have them fight to the death for your amusement, thats what I would do anyway.

[Fat Tire]

They will not care enough to spend the manpower for an investigation and in general win-trading in 2s is much more difficult as usually there are many more teams playing at any given time.


This new region wide arena matchmaking system that is being implemented in the patch will make near impossible to win trade.

[Nikita]

Better do this quick then to get your weapons before they implement these new changes to arena matchmaking.

[Emo?]

Yeh, well as i said, Its not my intention to Wintrade, i just think that if i meet myself in 2s its just a plus for me to be able to decide who is going to get pts i gues.

[Kicksome]

Last season, one battlegroup had 12 teams who all worked together to tie for the #1 spot. So they'd all get the Wrathful glad title, or whatever it was for the #1 rank.

I believe all Bliz did was take away their titles after a few weeks investigating it. And probably 100's of people complained about it.

[Negativ1337]

Yes, this is wintrading.

First guy ever wintrading was in season 1 with 10 accounts, queue them up on a tuesday around 03.30 AM and start winning on both teams. And yes, the guy got banned.

[Kicksome]

Lots of people were banned in 2008 for win trading - some 72 hours, some for good. Since then it doesn't seem like there has been a lot of bans for win-trading, but you never know. I think there were some pretty big exploits back in the day where people win-traded up to very high ratings and caused them to get banned.

Anyway - what you could always do is don't take the Q on both your teams at the same time. Or the safe bet of not Qing both teams.

You could just tell a bunch of your guild members to Q up so the wait time isn't as long. If you win you win, if you lose you lose.

[ebony]

Can not help the system putting your groups togaver really i think its a f**ing silly system letting you play your guild friends or whatever at silly times of the day to be fair

[Littleburst]

It's win trading. But blizzard isn't actively looking for it. So if you 'wintrade' yourself to a subpar rating nobody is gonna care and I doubt you'll get even contacted for it.

[Emo?]

K sounds reasonable, as i said its not my intention but cant help if i get into the same arena, not like its my fault :/ Cant se it as a banable reason anyway. Wel se.

[Feehza]

I queue my 2 teams at the same time too, cuz i wont wait 1-2 minutes. Mostly both teams gets invites. So i play 1 team and the others will lose their game being afk (they lower their ratings, thats nice too).
Sometimes i must play vs myself, very annyoing. ;)

[Emo?]

Yeh im in the same spot. Cant help it just go with the flow i gues =)

[Fat Tire]

Since S5 no one has gotten perm banned for wintrading that I have heard of, not saying there hasnt but I keep up with that stuff. The harshest punishment that I have seen since S5 is they have gotten their teams reset and gear taken away. No biggie.

I personally have wintraded a shit ton, not so much this season but from S5-S8 basically all of Woltk. Mostly it was to get teams past a certain threshold(rating) of counter comps so they/we wouldnt have to dodge. In S9 there is also alot of trading going on, basically for the fact that the match history can no longer be seen by the pvp police.

In short, play how you want, understand the consequences(if any) if you are breaking the rules. I dont think emo is breaking any rules. However, like I said in an earlier post win trading is going bye bye(4.1) and with that dogding and sniping. Which I think is overall great for the game and I think its great for boxers as well. For teams that play gimmick comps, once you blow them away teams will change tactics and usually you wont be able to win again against them and with the current system you are most likely going to face them again and again. Now with more teams in the pool at any given time meeting the same team is much less likely.

[Emo?]

Coudnt agree more, thanks for your input. :)

[Kang]

Here's your solution:

If both teams pop in the same match, line them up in melee range. Tab target at random intervals and spam the hell out of your dps macro. Keep doing this until one side is dead. It is all up to RNG and you are not predetermining an outcome. Once one team has 5 wins, stop queueing that team and finish your games on the other team.

[Ualaa]

Personally, if the random game thing decided to put me up against my own team, the side that needed wins more would end up winning.
I've gone the route of playing one toon, with someone else playing the other toon, and running two's... so will never be in this situation.

It might be because both sides spammed DPS, but the side I was actively controlling one toon on, managed to manually (not part of spam) get off a Hungering Cold, while both sides forgot Trinkets and were spamming their single target Obliterate sequence.