[EVE] Any EVE boxers out there?

[Bradster]

Just wondering if we have an EVE players in here. Currently 5 boxing EVE, started back in December. After a long break of MMO's it's a refreshing experience so far, really enjoying myself. :thumbup:

[Stabface]

I ran 3-6 accounts in EVE off and on for a couple of years. It wasn't really multiboxing in any sense of the term though as I was focused on the industrial side of things. So log in every day or few to deliver and start new manufacturing jobs. I did do some big mining ops but that's about as fun as watching paint dry, and about as challenging. I know some people who actively run multiple accounts for missions or hunting NPCs, it's pretty effective.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

How the heck do you box in that game? When I tried it a couple years ago, most of the targeting/jumping/etc. were menu-driven, which wouldn't seem to lend itself very well to multibox-ish play.

[Morganti]

Yeah, from my experience in EVE I would think anything other than mining ops in secure space would be horrible for boxing. MAYBE ratting in like .5 or .6, but PvP? I just can't picture it. Would be too easy to lose big money on ships because of lack of control due to boxing. I'd like to hear your experiences and thoughts Brad.

[Crazylike]

I've got 3 accouns in EVE which I play with sometimes, but how do you box in EVE brad? :)

[Bradster]

You can box it, but pretty much the old fashion way.

As many of you stated mining ops, Run 3 miners, a hauler and a rat spawn killer (low sec). Not too challenging. Missions are pretty easy, I either run 2 Ravens or a Drake or Raven combo depending on the missions. Haven’t seen a reason to run more then 2 for missions, might drag another one with me to salvage and loot collect. That’s about it.

For PVP I find it like wow in regards to class selection only ship selection. If I run 4 of the same type ships I can be pretty effective. The key really is having an interceptor as the 5th. First warp in with that, little management required since they can’t kill the interceptor due to tracking issues. Then just warp the fleet in and go to town.

Most importantly to make it a lot easier use Caldari ships. No range issues just spank and tank. From my experience thus far I realize that there’s real potential here on who and how many I can take on. But I’d like to keep the challege in this game; otherwise I feel I’d get bored here like I did for wow for that same reason.

Last night I had a pretty decent fight, Battle Cruiser vs. Battle Cruiser, I won! 8o http://www.bradster.net/movies/wootage.divx Pirate and I agreed to a fight, one I’ve had a bad history with and happened to run in to him as I was passing by. That was great.

Anyway, was hoping to find some active EVE players still. Also to toss out there that I have 4 65 warlocks that I’d be willing to trade for EVE characters ^^

[Morganti]

How are you making your money Brad? I had a couple of 2mil SP toons in EVE, but I always found that money was my limiting factor in most cases. That combined with the slow progression of skills left me feeling like the progression was just too slow. I liken it to seeing level 70's running around in WoW while you are level 40 and only being able to go up a level every 14 days even though you dont have to do any work to get there.

[Morganti]

Just watched your vid. Wow! That's a hell of a tank you're running there. If the guy had hit your drones instead of you it would have been bad though ;) <3 the drone skillz though.

[Bradster]

How do I make money. Well I do it a lot of different ways, just depends on what I’m in the mood for.

Because you only have 2m SP I can give you a couple pointers on how to make some decent money. First try level 2 DED. Fly in with a frigate, shoot everything. Then come back in a destroyer and loot and salvage everything ( in the first stage only), then also salvage all the other wrecks in there. On a good day in 10mins I’ll get around 16 Trit bars, those alone sell for 400K each. Not bad vs. the time. Do that every couple hours during the day between whatever.

Once you hit level 3 missions ISK income becomes pretty decent. Key is to make sure to loot and salvage everything.

My main has 25m SP, where as my alts have 5-6M. I normally run a level 4 with Ravens clear it really fast. Book mark it, turn it in, then if the next mission is small do that and book mark it. I then return to those 2 missions with 2 salvagers and a hauler. Last Saturday I went from 2m to 155M Isk just doing that. That’s just one way.

Other days I’ll run 3 Hulks and a Hauler. Or often while I’m do missions with 2 toons, I’ll be ice mining with the others. With the slow cycle times the ice miners sit there for 10mins to their cargo is full (8 blocks each) Then I just dock them up and send them out again. Per block is 150K for pretty much doing nothing.

If I’m doing well with money I often like to turn what I mine in to things to sell, this weekend I made 15 Thoraxs for sale. Currently working on standings to place a POS for the 100% yield to ice refine, and at that point I’ll start investing in BPO’S research and sell copies.

Also I haven’t done much with trading but something that also helps is saving all your loot until you can fill a hauler. Then take it to a big market trade hub with good prices (but for the love of god not Jita!).

About the slow progression I can agree with you. I played EVE a year ago for about three months and thought, screw this I want to advance! But after three years of wow, I was left bored accomplishing everything I wanted, or not being able to do what I wanted because of needing other people. Eve is different. You can accomplish anything you want; it’s just a matter of time. It was hard for me to have one character and wait for the skill training time, but once I got a couple accounts I prefer the long ones, as I do a lot of micro managing with them. Anytime you finish a big skill its like hitting 70 in that aspect of the game, feels pretty good.


As for that fight you’re going to laugh. I only have 2.5M in drone skills, that’s the first time I ever tried or flew that ship. Drone skills aren’t there yet to technically be in that ship. I saw a video with that setup and thought I’ll give that a try! Glad I did. You don’t need a lot of skill points to be effective in PVP; it normally comes down to fit. As an example in that fight, she/he has over 50M SP, I have 25M. If you look up “the forge” video on eve forum there’s a guy that starts pvping with a freshly made toon with a rifter. That was before when you started out with 200SP now new ones start with 800SP. If you stick and focus to one thing at a time you can fly that one ship very well. But if you want to PVE mission too then it’s going to tank you a lot longer. I have one Pirate alt now that I created a month ago. Soon he will be God in a Thorax. Already can use T2 Armor, Guns and drones. That there is plenty of SP to kill with. Yarr :)

[PyrostasisTDK]

I have a 30 mil sp character and a roughly 18 mil sp character that I reactivate about once every 2 - 3 months to train. I have just had a fvery hard time getting into the game.

My main beef with the game was, unlike UO, that you have to spend a rather large amount of time pve'ing to afford pvp. In UO I could pve for an hour or two and spend the rest of the day pvping. Eve just has a higher cost per death ratio.

Im planning on reactivating soon once I tire of the WAR beta, might hook up with you there brad if your still playing at that time.

[Bradster]

I have a 30 mil sp character and a roughly 18 mil sp character that I reactivate about once every 2 - 3 months to train. I have just had a fvery hard time getting into the game.

My main beef with the game was, unlike UO, that you have to spend a rather large amount of time pve'ing to afford pvp. In UO I could pve for an hour or two and spend the rest of the day pvping. Eve just has a higher cost per death ratio.

Im planning on reactivating soon once I tire of the WAR beta, might hook up with you there brad if your still playing at that time.Awesome,

My main is Chimay. The rest of my guys are in their own private corp and I try to keep them unassociated with my main. They are my care bear high sec dwellers. Currently seeking a new corp for more active people on the times I play in 0.0 with Chimay. Had a couple alliance offers i'm looking to too now, end result i'm looking for is more PVP then I do now.

[PyrostasisTDK]

I wanted to try and setup an empire war corp. Hang around some of the level 4 mission areas, find out what corps are running active missions and such, war dec them, then kill them till they pay us x amount. Pretty profitable business, and contrary to popular belief a lot of those carebears have teeth hehe.

But its rather hard to start a corp with one man, and the whole 0.0 blob 500 v 500 stuff while cool... just never really did it for me personally.

[Morganti]

Damn you Brad....you've got me itching to load up EVE now! :P

[PyrostasisTDK]

yeah I hear yah... bastage is making me reactivate 2 of my accounts

[Morganti]

Accounts reactivated :P I was wrong, my fighting guy has almost 7million SP and my industrial guy has about 5million.

[Bradster]

I just joined ROADKILL Alliance last night, thus far looks awesome. After talking with them for a couple of hours mining is possible with out much problems out there. Right now i'm leaving my other accounts in high sec until I get my feet wet. Plan do some ratting tonight, i'm told 60M an hour easy out here!

I play from 12:30am - 5am EST -5 (night shift worker) of any of you play the same hours send me an EVE mail and i'll pass it along to the recruiter, seem like pretty cool guys. Age range looks to be 20's - 40's

In game name is Chimay

[thinus]

There is no way to see character details of deactivated accounts, is there?

[Hippieman]

Ah, EVE... Used to two-box, Mathra (main, fighter/industrialist with aobut 20m SP), Mathrasslave(miner/transporter).

Was a pirate, tho, yarrr. We bring cookies and burn your ships

[Los]

Eve, still a great game, it has a lot of very very good features they could get into wow for me. But the pace is soo slow, granted I only have 2 around ~4 million sp chars but still.

btw for money, eve is one of those games where time card trading just gives you a bucket load for a low amount of cash, and its allowed.

[Morganti]

Wow Brad, you work nights or something? I definitely dont play that late (I'm in Louisiana....Central time zone).

My current 2 toons are Baton Rouge (fighting guy) and Morgaanti (Industrial/Mining). Prolly gonna pick up at least 2 more (gotta do some testing and see how 2 clients run on my dualcores.

So, now that we have a few people re-activating and playing anyone got an great hints/tricks/tips for boxing in EVE? Does key broadcasting anything help at all?

[Slats]

Brad is what you Americans call a 'Second Shifter'? No idea what hours that means, but imagine its late :D

[Contents]

1st: 8am - 4pm
2nd: 4pm-12am
3rd: 12am - 8am

Sounds like Brad works graveyards. Got to love those hours.... if you have the day off when you're actually awake, almost nothing is open, and everything on TV is infomercials.

[Hippieman]

Wow Brad, you work nights or something? I definitely dont play that late (I'm in Louisiana....Central time zone).

My current 2 toons are Baton Rouge (fighting guy) and Morgaanti (Industrial/Mining). Prolly gonna pick up at least 2 more (gotta do some testing and see how 2 clients run on my dualcores.

So, now that we have a few people re-activating and playing anyone got an great hints/tricks/tips for boxing in EVE? Does key broadcasting anything help at all?IIRC there IS a "supporttarget" or "autotarget"-function implented, I just can't remember how it was used. At any rate, the best solution for boxing would be using keyclone(I dare say) to sort out the windows and use "focus follows mouse" for quick clientshifts.

[Los]

hmm think you will be stuck with jumping while being in a gang?

[PyrostasisTDK]

Eve, still a great game, it has a lot of very very good features they could get into wow for me. But the pace is soo slow, granted I only have 2 around ~4 million sp chars but still.

btw for money, eve is one of those games where time card trading just gives you a bucket load for a low amount of cash, and its allowed.Not sure Id call 15 bucks per 200 million a steal... but Im just a poor college student living on ramen noodles! If you look at third party sites you can get isk at about half that rate. People like me use the GTC for isk deal to play the game for free. IMO the real people buying tons of cash are buying from third party sellers as its much cheaper that way.

It is rather slow, but if you can find a good corporation the game play can be very exciting. Just a pita to find a corp that shares the same goals as you.

As for boxing, the main issue with making boxing effective IMO is the lack of any form of assist.

[Bradster]

Yeah guys I work nights.

I play from 12:30am – 5am EST. Been on this schedule since… 2003 I believe. And Contents hit the nail on the head, nothing open, and nothing but infomercials. That’s why I turned to MMO’s. Work 4, 10hr days 2pm – 12am.

What’s funny is I haven’t watched TV since 2003, and people think I’m crazy “Did you see this show, this commercial?”. Nope haven’t watched TV in over 5 years! ZOMG

As far as tips and tricks, don’t have any as of late. If it was possible to multicast a mouse with perfect Sync things could be very interesting. But I don’t think something like that exists. Even so I’m not that interested in doing more then 2 in combat. I enjoy a lot of other aspects of the game and like to focus on that with my alts.

This weekend was pretty awesome. I found a rare moon in my travels doing some moon probing. Setup my own POS and I’m now harvesting it, yes this is in 0.0 where I live, so it works out.

Just recently joined this alliance I think on Friday, it really is quite amazing how much the game differs when you have people playing the same times you do and living out in 0.0 space compared to empire. One thing is for certain I’ll never move back to empire.

Some funny stories worth mentioning.

After a pretty successful nights of hunting, we were heading back to our home. This night we decided to hit lowsec empire and hope to grab a mission runner or 2, no loot worth mentioning on this run.

As were heading back I’m the first to jump the gate, there on the other side is a neutral pirate with a bounty in a Battle ship. I think nooooo problem I’ll tackle this dude in my battle cruiser while the other 2 gang members get here. Now I’m a noob when it comes to PVP, I don’t even know all the ships yet (I’m getting there). So my friend jumps and told me to run like hell. But his words came too late.

What did I tackle? A faction fitted Nightmare! My ship melted in about 15secounds. I couldn’t stop laughing; they still make fun of me about it.

Last night I tried stealth bombers for the first time. I was pretty impressed at the volley burst damage on a frigate, I one shot an interceptor in enemy space. I really didn’t expect that kind of damage. In wow terms it was like an epic pyro blast crit on a level 1 gnome.

[Gurblash]

Don't post much on the forums, been a lurker since June... but I've been an IRC whore since September, most the guys know me pretty well. Wilbur still gives me shit for not posting :(

Anywho, Hippi and Morg got me intriuged with EvE so I installed and snagged me a paid account. Games kick ass thus far.

Playing hours are 7am PST - 12am PST *winter layoff blows*. STill a very newbish character but have 2 accounts one is gunning to be a gas harvester and the other is my Missile Boat.

In game name is Gur Taukenon. Hit me up if ya see me Brad, currently playing with Hippi and Morg when he's on.

[banksie]

All this EVE talk is damaging my WoW multibox inspiration. Feel like activating my account again :D

Have had a char for a long time, maybe 15M sp. I've been activating it once or twice a year just to check up on EVE.

Never got into a proper corp, prolly the reason i don't play it :S

[Los]

Don't post much on the forums, been a lurker since June... but I've been an IRC whore since September, most the guys know me pretty well. Wilbur still gives me shit for not posting :(

Anywho, Hippi and Morg got me intriuged with EvE so I installed and snagged me a paid account. Games kick ass thus far.

Playing hours are 7am PST - 12am PST *winter layoff blows*. STill a very newbish character but have 2 accounts one is gunning to be a gas harvester and the other is my Missile Boat.

In game name is Gur Taukenon. Hit me up if ya see me Brad, currently playing with Hippi and Morg when he's on.Rofol, a gurblob at a jumpgate! hahahaha, eeugh *cough*, hmm shrug

You almost get me to activate my other account gurry, would be fun playing wit you retards ;)

[Gurblash]

You should lossie... I'm 17days away from having my T2 Mining Barge and being a gas harvester and I'm sure I'll be needing some backup :D. My Missile Boat on the other hand should get my Cruiser here today. The Progress is limited which is nice. You can't really power level your toon up to being a bad ass it just takes time... although you can 'twink' him with the best he can handle which is always fun, bearing you've got the ISK.

[Los]

that close to your hulk? this fast? hmm nice ;)

already have mine on my second account :P

[Gurblash]

Yea I'll have the Hulk in 12 days if I plow for it and don't miss a skill completion timer. Time to start setting alarms for 2 and 3am to change skills... oi lol.

[Morganti]

No reason to set your alarm, just switch skills to short timered ones when you're playing and long timered ones when you arent. You dont lose you place in training a skill by switching to another. You'll still end up with the same amount of time being played and the same skills. The pain in the butt parts are when you are leaving the computer for 8 hours and your skill only takes 6 to complete and theres no other great options to switch to.

[Bradster]

If you guys are interested in 0.0 living, contact me in game “Chimay” and I’ll get you in contact with our recruiter. He’s a great guy I normally spend most of my time in fleet with him killing someone or some thing. . Doesn’t matter what time you play there are always ton’s of people on. Heck I log in all hours of the night and I was in a 90 man fleet the other day. Keep in mind the 90man fleet was created within 15mins ready for attack from those who were just in the area.

0.0 living is fun! You can make around 64m an hour mining out here (with T2 Crystals) Even so without them, still a ton. You can also make that ratting. Last night my friend got a faction drop worth over 300m (Dread Invul Field). Just in the short time I’ve been with them it’s changed the entire game for me. I never had this much fun in EVE before.

Here’s some of the things I accomplished thus far with the new corp. I have my own personal POS, I use it to mine a rare moon. Not only got to go on the Journey, but had to tank THEE hardest Exploration Plex in the game. (I have part of it recorded if you’d like me to upload it). I’ve made tons of isk compared to empire no matter what the heck I do. Been apart of large fleet battles. Had the satisfaction of chasing away over 150 reds outta our system due to team work. Most of all I’m actually starting to move up on the kill board compared to before being solo.

I really just can’t explain it, it’s just something you have to see for yourself. Take the BLUE pill and let’s go hunting, yarrr.

Right now I have 5 guys.
2 in the Alliance
3 in their on private corp. I ice mine on 2, and haul with the 3rd.

Main almost finished Advanced Drone Interfacing 5 (18D skill!)
Then going to work on Warfare Drone skills, then continue to work on gun skills. Right now his gun skills are only 2m but my Thorax still does 532DPS. That’s not a typo. My lolrox setup only cost 16m total as well. I have a clip of me raping a Hauler with that setup if you’re interested in seeing the damage output.

Alt in the Corp will be completely done learning skills in 12D (Advanced 4). He was my old main with 6m SP. Next step is Exploration/Ship probe skills. That’s about 50D to max it to make it perfect. Then on to Logistics (10D) so I can solo those hard 0.0 Plexs I find. That last one we did I tanked over 30 Battle Ships, ton of Frigates and tons of cruisers and Battle cruisers, along with Sent guns and Seiage guns that hit for 500. Mind you this was all at once. If that doesn’t make your heart rate go up I don’t know what will! That’s a preview of 0.0 life!

2 miners both drive Hulks/Machs
Both finished Ice mining 5 today, working on Mining 5 Then off to T2 Crystals.

Last alt, finishing off learning skills, then training for Freighter then Jump Freighter, ETA 43D just for the Freighter.

I normally have a skill plan laid out for the next 40D and make a new one once I completed them all. When you have 5 guys, with the exception of learning skills they go by pretty fast. I have a laptop with EVE installed here at work just to keep up with the training. Speaking of which I need to do that now.

Before I go I should make it clear, that although my post is filled with wonderful great experiences, this is after all 0.0. We are currently with war with three other Alliances, which the normal is only 1. One is always to be expected but not 3. But were excited, more targets! Some times things are quite, others you have to put down the miner lasers and go out there and show them how it’s done. Really think about if you can sit there and mine for days with out getting bored to the next week having local fill up with over a 100 REDS and camp you inside for the rest of the day. These things happen and will! When I’m trapped with my pants down I simply logon to my alts and start mining. Wouldn’t recommend putting all of your guys in 0.0 space for your own sanity when you get camped in or out of 0.0.

[TEEJ]

i used to play more than i do now, mostly i play wow at the moment. i still log on my eve toon (Theteej) to train a new skill when i learn one. and he has like 270 million isk. i fly a drake decently, and a mining barge decently. currently i'm finishing up maxing the tier 2 learning skills. memory and int tier 1 and 2 are all at 5, per/will are tier 1 all 5, tier 2 4 and 5, charisma is like tier 1 at 4 tier 2 at 3. another few weeks and i can either work toward exhumer or get better at flying drake. i still mine occasionally but i don't have refining skill yet, so i just stockpile the ore. i wana kill stuff in my drake but i don't have faction enough to get even level 2 missions yet lol.i used to play in a pvp corp but i work too much to be active.

[Bradster]

This thought occurred to me last night.

Let’s pretend there is a Mouse Multiplexer out there in existence and you currently have it. It’s still not going to work very well. The reason why is the over view.

In a perfect world if you were to take on a single target, that happened to be in a roid belt. Then yes the only target at the top of the overview (properly setup) would be in that said ship. So you could focus fire. However in a most cases like a Gate, station etc you will have many targets lurking about. Because you are randomly placed upon jump the distances would differ. Player A, B, C and D would have different ships in the overview, only if sorted by distance the targets would differ.

Thinking about it more, I think it could still be possible but you would have to setup the overview to sort by Name, or perhaps ship type. The question I’m unable to test right now is, IF you can sort by those perimeters. I don’t think you can, but I’m unable to test right now.

[Bradster]

There is a lack of target assist, however! With the broadcast window, you could broad cast who to target. Assuming you have a mouse Multiplexer you could then click on the broadcast window and target that way. At which point during the locking phase you can click orbit on all of them at the same time and start spamming f1 – f9 for a great time :thumbsup:

[Morganti]

I've been debating exactly what we CAN do in EVE and these are my thoughts thus far:

Key broadcast your attack keys across all guys (as soon as you gain a target you'll start firing)
Key broadcast your drones across all guys (there are drone shortcuts you can bind)

You wouldn't want to broadcast your active tanking modules, as you would burn needless cap on a lot of guys.

With a G-15 or nostromo you could one button fire your entire fleet, and could at that point worry about targeting/movement individually.

I know you could use AutoIt to move your mouse to a certain spot and click, but I'm not sure how legit that would be. That's the closest idea I can come to an assist in EVE.

[zashi]

Have a coupla accounts. Between the two of them, I can fly carriers, freighters, covops/cruisers, t2 cruisers, exhumers (mmm, gistii hulk), and have a bunch of good refine skills (been playing since 04)

Last time I really played, ISS was still together. Reading this is getting that itch itching again, bah!

I'd be interested in some kind of close knit corp: empire pvp, shifting goods around, or just being a nuisance. Not really too excited about mining or ratting out in 0sec anymore, the monotony of that killed the game for me. Add that to the fact that ore prices have plummeted...

[Bradster]

Morganti

Your right you can broadcast using the key board multiplexer (and perhaps software like Keyclone?)

I wasn’t aware you could bind your drone attack. That’s interesting.

However without some way to use a mouse across all the clients I don’t see how it’s possible to acquire the target. Unless there is some Mouse Multiplexer out there with a perfect Sync I don’t think it would be possible.

On a good note I did discover you can sort the over view alphabetically. So if and when find a way to have a perfect mouse sync it would be possible to target the same thing at the same time. To be honest I haven’t put forth much effort in to researching what is out there, mainly because I have no desire to 5 box pvp here. I enjoy the mmo aspect of fighting in fleet vs. fleet and have no desire to change that.


Zashi

I know what you mean. I more or less enjoy a tightly knit group myself. Even being apart of a large alliance I have a group of people I normally hang out with. We click and enjoy the company. A typical night includes about 6-10 of us doing small gangs. Doing plexs, pirating or ganking other alliances war targets. Two weeks ago we all went to our enemy’s space in Stealth Bombers. We’d uncloak and insta pop anyone that came in. Was pretty funny. That’s just a random idea one of us had. Something is always going on that’s fun at least.

Mining still has it’s value, Can still make a good 50-60M an hour, which is pretty decent, and note this is per toon of course if you box. As for living out in 0.0 I hear many people
Have different experiences with it, my very first experience was pretty bad with my first choice. However this 2nd choice is pretty amazing. Only thing it cost’s me is 10% tax, which I’d pay that in empire anyway.


I’ve been trying to get my irl friend to play EVE for a while now, he created a new account and has been skilling towards Battle Cruiser, but already he’s bored waiting. Thankfully he is almost done skilling for it and can move in to 0.0 this week and he can see the game for what it really is. I wanted to give him a preview so I tossed together a small video of just Saturday.

We decided to do an interceptor gang with a single Black bird, just messing around. Well it was pretty effective, even managed a battle ship with just interceptor dps, we couldn’t stop laughing. These clips are pretty much all from 1 day just in a random roaming gang, with the exception of the Caracal and BC fight. http://files.filefront.com/evepvpdivx/;9751178;/fileinfo.html ('http://files.filefront.com/evepvpdivx/;9751178;/fileinfo.html')

That’s just one day, lately I’ve been gate camping. Finally decided to drop the isk and Buy a Heavy Assault Ship. A lot more fun then the slow going Negatron.

[Gurblash]

:thumbup: Kick ass video Brad.

Mind sharing how you got your overview to list alphabeticly? I think Morg has a trick up his sleeve for MBing his guys in PvP, were just trying to work the kinks out.

[Bradster]

:thumbup: Kick ass video Brad.

Mind sharing how you got your overview to list alphabeticly? I think Morg has a trick up his sleeve for MBing his guys in PvP, were just trying to work the kinks out.Thanks

To sort the overview alphabeticlyjust click "name" and that's it. Sorted :D

[Morganti]

Ok Brad, pony up....How do you mine 50-60mil in an hour?? From what I hear mining Gas only nets you 30mil an hour tops.

[Gurblash]

LOL /palmface

so painfully obvious.

Cheers!

[Los]

LOL /palmface

so painfully obvious.

Cheers!/shrug

Cool vid bradster, tell me, did you get out of the bubble at the end? :D (btw what ship/outfit where you tackling with, couldnt place the 2 lower right fittings?)

[Bradster]

Ok Brad, pony up....How do you mine 50-60mil in an hour?? From what I hear mining Gas only nets you 30mil an hour tops.Can't logon right now to update the values for todays market. But here's a base by hour.

[Hulk]Omber 14m
[Hulk]Hedbergite 20m
[Mack] Dark Glitter 23M
[Skif] Mercoxit 38M
[Hulk]Crokite 51M
[Hulk]Arkonor 54M

Now you can make more then that provided you have gang bonus, implants and don't have to fit a tank. Edit: and mining drones

[Los]

nice help for the new miners

http://www.files-firetech.pioneerx.co.uk/

Download and read a bit through: completeminersguide_ver2.0halada.pdf

[Los]

Anybody in a corp with +8 faction for [insert faction here] so i can make and move my jumpclones (if that is still possible since obtaining info for these jc's has been a bit hazy)

[gmbattletech]

Just as the Title states.. how do u run more then 1 Copy of eve on a PC

[Gurblash]

Just run the Client as many times as you want them open.

[Los]

use evemonitor to make it into a windowed thingy! as i believe the normal client still doesnt do that?

Yarrr!

o7

[Voigtkampf]

Ok, thats it, been lurking these forums for a while now, but this topic lured me out in the open finally. :rolleyes:

I was playing with the idea to box WoW for a long time, but busy life, loads of work and then decreased joy in WoW made me cut down on the game entirely the last summer. I was working 16 hours a day and raiding 4-5 days a week (even though I was a real hard core raider only for several months) and regularly fell asleep over my keyboard while the guild members chirped on TS in the late evening about how we are going to make the 5th attempt on this boss and try to remain the "best epic guild" on the server... :whistling: I am playing WoW again since last few weeks, but as completly casual fella, and even leveling some new toons on obscure new servers. :rolleyes:

Anyway, nuff' was nuff', and I finally let it all go and devoted my time to EVE in a far greater fashion.

I won't tell about the beauties of EVE; if I want to play today, I will, if not, I won't, and need not to worry about DKP and falling behind. Money does matter in the game, and intelligent approach gets you somewhere. Most importantly, I as a one single player can bring down entire corporations if I feel like it. :thumbdown:

Now, I got 5 accounts and struggling hard NOT to get more. 8o But I am mostly running only 2 accounts at the same time, since I got characters in my own private corp and some major alliances out there, spread all over the galaxy. And yes, I even know folks from Roadkill and have at a given point supplied some Corporations there. Lot of trit in some titans that are being built up there in the north came from my stocks. ;)

I'd love to start boxing EVE decently, I would very much appreciate any tips you got for me. I tried running several accounts on one PC, but even with the premium content turned off, I found to experience odd CTDs, especially when mining ice with 50 macrominers around me. Bradster, I love the look of your desktop, btw! Would you be as kind as to give me some tips on the PC configs of the rigs you got there? what would be a good config, able to run EVE smoothly, and even perhaps server as to box WoW eventually? I am not really interested in any key programs, just about the details on the rigs you got, how you connected them and so on.

Thank you in advance, mate! If you'd care to talk to me ingame, for what reason ever, find Voigtkampf and feel free to open convo. ;) Same goes for all of you boxers out there! Cheers!

[Voigtkampf]

What, no cmments, no advice, no tips and hints? ;(

[donfran]

hmmm.... can I just sidetrack and ask abit.

Is there anything that make Eve Online more synergistic than say, WoW or EQ II ?

Like in WoW you control 5 chars and can do heroics etc. 5 shamans can pawn the BGs/ Arena.

What about Eve online? How does controlling multiple accounts help besides more firepower? Are you able to do specific maneuvers (combat or otherwise) that will help you utilise the synergy of having 5 accounts?

Hehe just curious :)

[Los]

well, depends but i guess that if you mine/trade/run missions/pvp there will always be a way to utilise more then 1 account?

allthough playing with 2+ might be very difficult in pvp, then again, set targets, press f1-f7 (head against keyboard method) will make all your hotties fire, guess you will have to find your own way of helping yourself by having more then 1 account

[Voigtkampf]

There are many ways on how to utilize several accounts in EVE.

Unlike WoW or many other MMO's out there, EVE has fully functional economy system wherein money really does matter. There is a demand for almost anything one can make or get from missions or killing NPC in asteroid belts. Since you lose ships, you need minerals to build new ones, or you need money to buy ships from the industrialists. Gun, missile launchers, countless modules, they all need to be crafted by players. The innovative conquering system of EVE allows vast regions of space to be conquered by players, their corporations and alliances. That so called 0.0 region is basically lawless, without the Concord NPC police and authority, its free for all, you can shoot and kill anyone. Why hold these regions, other than mindless PvP? Well, the most valuable ores in asteroid fields are found in 0.0 space, valuable moon minerals, much bigger rewards on the NPCs in belts, better mission agents who give more money and better rewards for the mission runners.

As for the use of multiple accounts, well, I'd say that PvP is least valuable option, IMHO ofc. EVE PvP is getting more and more about roaming gangs of 10, 20, 30 people - strength in numbers. Of course, you can quite easily go pirating in low sec and find many single targets, but, the possibility of loss of several ships in PvP is not really encouraging.

First place where you can use several accounts well is missioning. Level 4 missions are soloable with characters with proper skills, most of them, that is. EVE is all about time=money equation. With one character, depending on his/her skills, you can make, say, 10 million ISK per hour of missioning. Thats Empire missioning, in "safe space" where the Concord NPC police takes care of people attacking you unprovoked. Not always before they kill you, but thats another story, heh.
What useful here is, say, to run a mission with two or three accounts. There are different setups. For one, you can use the main char to "tank" and the second one to "heal" you, using remote shield or armor repair modules. Or you can use both of them to dish out DPS on the same target. More DPS; faster progress, more money earned. The third account would be used to loot the wrecks (wrecks drop modules which can be used or sold on market) and then salvage the wrecks (salvaging wrecks provides you with components that enable one to make rigs for ships that increase energy grid, shields, weapon damage). The beauty of this all is that the aggro system in EVE is nothing like WoW. You enter a mission and aggro a group, and they will hardly ever let go of you in order to attack your second char or even your third, salvaging char. Only need to take care of new incoming spawns and pick their aggro right there. If they attack the wrong guy, you can - mostly - warp out and leave the aggro to the main.

This means you cut down the missioning time maybe threefold, and by the time you completed mission, you are almost done with salvaging too.

Second, and for me even more valuable option is to mine. Now, one perfectly skilled miner with the best ship available and best modules can mine, in Empire, around some 10m per hour. Thats about the optimum figure. You can ahve some skills that will enhance your mining yield, but those work only if you are grouped in a fleet and all chars in the same system and the char with the, say, mining foreman/mining director skills is the fleet leader. Unlike WoW or some other MMOs where you can easily kill 20 mammoths and stuck their heads in your bag, in EVE the volume of materials have a significant meaning. So, basically, while you mine, your cargo fills up quickly, and you empty it to a space can. Now, you get your alt, and haul the ores to the station. Otherwise, you'd have to haul it with your main, which would mean docking to the station and emptying cargo hold and going back, or, going to station and changing into an industrial hauler and going back to your can. This leaves place open for ore thieves, gah, not so fun. Now, if you have two miners and one hauler, you can earn 20m per hour. And mining is basically the AFK gaming style. You set your lasers on a rock, empty cargo hold every few minutes (click and darg to can) and eventually haul the stuff to station. Minimum effort required.

Now, imagine mining in a relative safe 0.0 system. There, you can mine up to 50-60m per hour!!! Take that times two for two miners, damn, thats some sick money. Mind you, in EVE you can use ingame money to buy game time cards, 3 month gaming card costs 400m ISK. Plus, you can sell those GTCs for real money, and all of it is perfectly legal. I know of a guy who quit his job and is now earning his living playing EVE. And its all perfectly legal.

Now, there are other possibilities of using multiple accounts, like scouting for your main, opening cyno fields so your main can jump with the jump drive equipped ships, and many many other possibilities...

[Lorune]

I multiboxed eve is the past, for mining, and more recently for exploration. me and a friend run 5 acc's total and sniff out sites, and then bring in the firepower so to say :)

Anyways, i myself am in Razor Alliance at the moment, mostly doing industry related stuff.

[donfran]

There are many ways on how to utilize several accounts in EVE.

Unlike WoW or many other MMO's out there, EVE has fully functional economy system wherein money really does matter. There is a demand for almost anything one can make or get from missions or killing NPC in asteroid belts. Since you lose ships, you need minerals to build new ones, or you need money to buy ships from the industrialists. Gun, missile launchers, countless modules, they all need to be crafted by players. The innovative conquering system of EVE allows vast regions of space to be conquered by players, their corporations and alliances. That so called 0.0 region is basically lawless, without the Concord NPC police and authority, its free for all, you can shoot and kill anyone. Why hold these regions, other than mindless PvP? Well, the most valuable ores in asteroid fields are found in 0.0 space, valuable moon minerals, much bigger rewards on the NPCs in belts, better mission agents who give more money and better rewards for the mission runners.

As for the use of multiple accounts, well, I'd say that PvP is least valuable option, IMHO ofc. EVE PvP is getting more and more about roaming gangs of 10, 20, 30 people - strength in numbers. Of course, you can quite easily go pirating in low sec and find many single targets, but, the possibility of loss of several ships in PvP is not really encouraging.

First place where you can use several accounts well is missioning. Level 4 missions are soloable with characters with proper skills, most of them, that is. EVE is all about time=money equation. With one character, depending on his/her skills, you can make, say, 10 million ISK per hour of missioning. Thats Empire missioning, in "safe space" where the Concord NPC police takes care of people attacking you unprovoked. Not always before they kill you, but thats another story, heh.
What useful here is, say, to run a mission with two or three accounts. There are different setups. For one, you can use the main char to "tank" and the second one to "heal" you, using remote shield or armor repair modules. Or you can use both of them to dish out DPS on the same target. More DPS; faster progress, more money earned. The third account would be used to loot the wrecks (wrecks drop modules which can be used or sold on market) and then salvage the wrecks (salvaging wrecks provides you with components that enable one to make rigs for ships that increase energy grid, shields, weapon damage). The beauty of this all is that the aggro system in EVE is nothing like WoW. You enter a mission and aggro a group, and they will hardly ever let go of you in order to attack your second char or even your third, salvaging char. Only need to take care of new incoming spawns and pick their aggro right there. If they attack the wrong guy, you can - mostly - warp out and leave the aggro to the main.

This means you cut down the missioning time maybe threefold, and by the time you completed mission, you are almost done with salvaging too.

Second, and for me even more valuable option is to mine. Now, one perfectly skilled miner with the best ship available and best modules can mine, in Empire, around some 10m per hour. Thats about the optimum figure. You can ahve some skills that will enhance your mining yield, but those work only if you are grouped in a fleet and all chars in the same system and the char with the, say, mining foreman/mining director skills is the fleet leader. Unlike WoW or some other MMOs where you can easily kill 20 mammoths and stuck their heads in your bag, in EVE the volume of materials have a significant meaning. So, basically, while you mine, your cargo fills up quickly, and you empty it to a space can. Now, you get your alt, and haul the ores to the station. Otherwise, you'd have to haul it with your main, which would mean docking to the station and emptying cargo hold and going back, or, going to station and changing into an industrial hauler and going back to your can. This leaves place open for ore thieves, gah, not so fun. Now, if you have two miners and one hauler, you can earn 20m per hour. And mining is basically the AFK gaming style. You set your lasers on a rock, empty cargo hold every few minutes (click and darg to can) and eventually haul the stuff to station. Minimum effort required.

Now, imagine mining in a relative safe 0.0 system. There, you can mine up to 50-60m per hour!!! Take that times two for two miners, damn, thats some sick money. Mind you, in EVE you can use ingame money to buy game time cards, 3 month gaming card costs 400m ISK. Plus, you can sell those GTCs for real money, and all of it is perfectly legal. I know of a guy who quit his job and is now earning his living playing EVE. And its all perfectly legal.

Now, there are other possibilities of using multiple accounts, like scouting for your main, opening cyno fields so your main can jump with the jump drive equipped ships, and many many other possibilities.../salute

Thank you that is exactly what I wanted to hear about the synergy of multiple accounts on EVE online.

I was hoping more for the synergy of precision flying and tactical accumen but I guess in most MMOs numbers just matter in the end anyway. (And skill)

Thanks,

[Voigtkampf]

You are welcome, Donfran.

Lorune, if you would be so kind to give me a hint what kind of software and hardware you are using for that multiscreensetup in your sig? Would that be possible with EVE? Would certainly make me a happy bunny, thats for sure! :thumbsup:

[Bradster]

A few of you contacted me in EVE requesting an invite, or wanted to know more information about the 0.0 area i'm in. So far I had one invited, another 2 are interested and last I heard was moving their stuff near by to join.

I haven;t been on much. Last weekend my internet was down as they were doing upgrades and spitting the node (Internet speed up and down is now doubled woot!) Then this week I had to switch to double shifts as the shit has hit the fan at work. I was going to logon the other day but the patch was going on. So for those that contacted me, I haven't forgot about you, life just happened that's all :)

Just finished the big project and should be home around 6-7pm which is a rare thing! I normally get off at 12am. I'll play for a few hours. Friday I have to work but I expect it to be a short day and then i'll be back to my normal play times. I've been so busy the only 2 things i've done is work and sleep. Sorry about the little communication.

-Brad

[Bradster]

As Voig stated pretty well the advantages to having multiple accounts, I’ll list off what I do.

Both in 0.0
Player A is my main. I use him for PVP, Rating and scouting.
Player B, Hauling, Added DPS/Off tank. Skilling for Logistics (healer) and Scan probes for finding players and plex.

Empire
Player C and D Miner in hulk/mach working to max mining skills
Player E (new) Skilling for Freighter, right now I move stuff out of 0.0 to .5 with Player B, then Player E moves it to Jita (so I’m free to haul without getting attacked by war targets).


I stick around 0.0 most of the time, I normally Ice mine on Player C and D while I’ll play A and B. It’s pretty easy to manage.


When I lived in Empire I just had 4 accounts, 3 Hulks and an Industrial which also doubled as a duel raven combo for missions. I keep C, D and E in empire for safety, that and if I’m in a camped in situation I can feel free to do whatever I want on the other guys.

I’ll have my hands full tonight I’ve been using Player C and E to move POS fuel that I mined across 32 Jumps (on this laptop at work). I need to move a months supply for both of my POS’s for Player B to pick up while A scouts. Hehe

Edit: Finally get the play but I'll have to work in-game tonight. Least I made a little over 100m while my POS moon harvesters worked for me all week. Sometimes like now it;s pretty nice.

[Bradster]

Bradster, I love the look of your desktop, btw! Would you be as kind as to give me some tips on the PC configs of the rigs you got there? what would be a good config, able to run EVE smoothly, and even perhaps server as to box WoW eventually? I am not really interested in any key programs, just about the details on the rigs you got, how you connected them and so on.thanks,

Check my sig goto my site then my forum. My whole setup is listed. My "Alt" machines do ok, not great FPS compared to how they ran wow. But if your looking to draw the line some where I wouldn't go below what I got, with just running windows, and EVE (no other software not even an anti-virus) they run smooth under normal circumstances, any fleet fights.... well forget it hehe.
As for Titans being built, I can confirm that is a rumor, far as the Roadkill side some think we have one so we just go with it. But honestly we don’t. Smash I’m pretty certain doesn’t either. Now our other friends in the area, possible but I wouldn’t know much about them.

[07drewgt]

I used to play Eve a while back. Had at one point 7 accounts running.

1 Carrier tanking/fighter support.
5 hulks,
1 It5' Maxxed. T2 expanders, and T2 Rigs.

it got boring.. spend that time building and saving and building just to lose a 3 billion Isk carrier in a fleet battle/Pos battle was zzzz

[Voigtkampf]

Thanks for all the info, I appreciate it very much! Actually, I found your website before, but didn't dig through the forums for the setup, eh.

As for the Titan, well, Hot Space from ToG is horrible with english, that silly Belgian, lol...

I run three accounts in windowed mode, works fine, but doesn't win any beauty rewards. I have a similar setup, as for my toons, but my A and B "main" ones are currently maxing up all learning skills and acquiring +5 implant sets. C is a pure PvP toon, whereas D and E are industrialists/researchers/uber-miners.

I am getting myself a new PC according to those speccs, will be more than enough running 4 accounts at the same time, 2 on each PC... For starters. ^^

I will be mining ice on 3 accounts with hulks, always had a hauler along, but now its going to be a hulk with cargohold optimization rigs. Need to keep that POS running.

[Bradster]

Last night I finally said screw it. I’ve decided to bring all but 1 account to the 0.0 corp. For a couple of reasons.

I was making great isk selling ice. However since the return of the macro miners prices dropped from 150k per block to 120k, with over 30k for sale on market. The ice simply doesn’t sell. With out a freighter (30 days away) I’m screwed right now. I did cut a few deals via the alliance selling direct, but market was limited because I’m unable to delivery 1000+ blocks.

Another reason is, Ratting is fun, however the best systems for ratting that has the best chance for a rare/named spawn is always crowded. To deal with this I rat at one of my systems I have a POS in, however the common rats I get are 1.2m which aren’t great. In the mean time I see tons of ore, and not many miners.

Other people that would like to mine, can’t with only using one account without a 400m tank (named shield booster and cap recharge). So now I can run 3 Hulks, 1 tank and 1 hauler, plus anyone who also want’s to get some mining in can do so if I’m mining.

If I mined the low stuff Hedbergite that’s 20m per Hulk x3 60m an hour. That’s the least amount I could possibly make. Or mining Crokite (I don’t see much Arkonor) Crokite is 51m per hulk x3 153m an hour. Even 60m hourly is an improvement over ratting. That’s a content flow with out interruption (no competing for belt spawns or waiting for respawn). Just seems logical at this point to go all out and mine like mad there.

Tonight around 11pm I can leave my personal corp and move them in. Already have the hulks in the 0.0 waiting to go :thumbsup:

[Voigtkampf]

Now my palms are itching as well. I got only my PvP toon in 0.0, where as I got the two uber-miners on standby, at the edge of the great lawless sea... Only thing that reverts me from going down there to 0.0 is war, and I am wondering just how much peace and quiet can I get by mining in there. I will be leaving my two main chars in Empire, they are now maxing up learning skills while I am earning money on others. Decided to bite the bullet and max their learning as well as get them +5 implants, thinking long term here, doubt I'll ever leave EVE again. The 3 toons that are supposed to be earning money will def go to 0.0 now, though.

I found a nice, ore rich system, its a dead end and somewhat off the beaten track, and going to set up a POS there. Now, I am going to use 3 accounts for mining there, wondering about the right setup though. I got a PvP toon which can also haul, and two miners. One of them was going to be a Rorq pilot, so that leaves me with one PvP toon and one miner. Not too great... So, considering, these are my options.

1. Mine with one, haul with other, use a tank as third.
2. Mine with two and warp off to the POS to dump the ores, or, eventually, which I also don't like at all, warp off with the PvP toon, switch to indy and come back to haul off the stuff.
3. Mine with two in the belt, aligned and ready to flee, whereas my PvP will haul.
4. Get another miner/hauling toon. :rolleyes:

Should be able to fly a Rorq within some 20+ days, but that would also mean one less miner. Plus, sieged, Rorq is a sitting duck and very, very desirable target...

Only thing that is truly bothering me with this setup are my dodgy connections. I am leaving outside the city, nice and quiet out here, lots of space and the nature is just charming, but, since I am some 6km away from the central, my connections can be very dodgy sometimes, and I got used to live with DCs. One thing to DC in WoW, die and corpserun, other thing to go in EVE, DC with a friend in a simple mission which one man could solo, and reconnect to find myself in my pod, since I was webbed. Jolly fun. :pinch: I'd be running 5 accounts in a jiffy, buy me new miners and roll, but not when I am risking half a billion ISk when I DC... :|

[zashi]

Dunno if it has been changed since I played... but you used to be able to fit a gistii booster to a hulk and tank most of the 0.0 spawns.

Is anybody a part of an empire corp that does fun things?

[Voigtkampf]

Yes. Gistii setup for a hulk that can then tank 0.0 spawns. And thats a ,5 billion hulk setup. Meh, somehow, I prefer the vanilla hulk and guards.

I got an Empire corp but I kind of cannot make it go big time. I got half a dozen very good friends that play with me, all of them are older people (25+) and most are rather casual, so we mostly play one, two of us at the time. I am kind of torn between quantity and quality, between recruiting en masse and just having quality people around me. We mostly run missions and mine when we are online. Preparing for takeover of EVE galaxy.

[Bradster]

Well this weekend I started using all my guys in 0.0 I made about 200m mining in two days. About 6-8 hours of mining (I didn’t keep track well). The pro’s and con’s. I didn’t have a dedicated tank, which I’m able to do. However the system I picked is one of our busy homes. Many would come in and kill the spawns I was tanking thus it deemed the tanker useless, respawn would agro a Hulk instead.

To make it work well I’d need to find another system to mine which isn’t crowded with ratters. Right now I’m limited by systems with stations since POS refine on ore is only like 40%? It’s terrible. Ice however is 100% I only had to warp my miners twice in all that time from neutrals coming in to the system. Over all a good experience. I did have to warp every 20mins or so due to rat respawns, slight interruptions but not bad.

To start our own corp?

Now I’ve been thinking a lot lately. I was thinking of possibly starting my own corp for Multiboxers, For empire and 0.0 . What I need to know first is how many here would be interested in joining? Also a count of how many toons you have and your play times in -5 EST format please.

Corp objective:
Both PVP and Industrial stuff. Personally I like both!
Kill and make money, sounds good to me!
Group play, Team work and dedication for other corp mates

Don’t get me wrong I love to PVP, but there’s also satisfaction from helping one another out, that is if their willing to do the same for you, that’s what it’s all about. I want everyone to be able to make tons of isk in 0.0 when their ready to move. Mean time empire side of corp is always there for you. The one thing I learned boxing is that having a complete group of toons to your self can get lonely, as it removes the mmo aspect out of the game. What I want to do is get a group of boxers together. Run Plex’s, PVP just make our mark and have fun.

I like the idea of a long term goal of Capital Ship building for one another. Things like that cost too much. Take 5 people with 5 accounts that’s 20 (example mining) Building something like that isn’t going to take that long. To me mining a few hours a week to make us strong as a whole sounds like a solid plan. Best of all we get to see the results as So and so now has <Insert freshly made ship here>. To me that’s just cool, I’ve never seen a corp. do that. That’s something that could work.


A list of things that would need before creation.
A name! Zerg or any variant is taken.
Corp Tag Someone creative that can make our Corp tag look good (I’m bad at this!)
Recruiter(s) Boxers only, someone to spam the OP daily
Director’s at the very least one, ideally two that will share management of the corp.
POS fueler Freighter driver
Diplomat: Level 5 in smack, level 3 in Bullshit? lol

[These last’s ones, an experienced individual someone can turn too for direction]
Production
Mining
Combat trainer
Etc

Joining an Alliance:
This is something that will have to wait for a month. The cost to join is 1billion isk CCP charge. I also have to figure out what is expected from us as a contribution towards the Alliance. Or we could make our own Alliance; we would need one hell of a convincing guy or results to entice a corp to drop 1B isk to join us. Personally I’m interested in Road kill, as that’s where I’m at now and I really enjoy how they all work.


So there’s a rough draft of my thinking. Pipe dream? Perhaps but it’s totally doable if we have a few here to start with. The hard part is the finding those that match the Corp Manifesto so to speak. I’m also open to suggestions as well, that is IF we have anyone interested in building something from the ground up. I won’t sit here and tell you this is going to be easy. But over time we can take a step back and say Holy Shit we did that! Behold the fleet of 20 cap ships lol. That would be funny.

Speaking of big ships a Titan one shot my Raven along with 38 other battle ships at once this weekend! @#$%@#$% Red alliance 8| :cursing:


EDIT
Allready have a private Ventrilo Server

[Sutekh]

I have for some time been trying to figure out how to multi-box EVE in pvp as I have 6 clients. Is there a program I can put on my computers that would allow me to do basic mouse and keyboard operations.

I need the F1 – F8 keys. Ctrl + Click (this is how we target things)

I figure if I made my UI exactly the same on each client it would work perfect but I don’t know of program that just exactly reproduces 1 keyboard/mouse onto multiple computers.
I have thought about buying 6 sets of the same wireless keyboard/mouse combo’s and just using one keyboard/mouse and hooking all the receivers up.. Any comments on that idea?

[Bradster]

I have for some time been trying to figure out how to multi-box EVE in pvp as I have 6 clients. Is there a program I can put on my computers that would allow me to do basic mouse and keyboard operations.

I need the F1 – F8 keys. Ctrl + Click (this is how we target things)

I figure if I made my UI exactly the same on each client it would work perfect but I don’t know of program that just exactly reproduces 1 keyboard/mouse onto multiple computers.
I have thought about buying 6 sets of the same wireless keyboard/mouse combo’s and just using one keyboard/mouse and hooking all the receivers up.. Any comments on that idea? I use Synergy across 5 PC's. One keyboard and mouse to control the whole thing. I just recently installed Synergy; thus far it's much better then having 5 mice. So good in fact combat with 5 would be pretty doable.

At this time there is no Multicast to split the mouse signal. Synergy is basically the only package that's helpful right now.

I'm sorry wireless mice will not work. Wireless keyboards will. But because of the mice sync issues and how quickly they go out of sync it would be pretty much impossible to use it, especially with eve due to the small areas to click in the overview


Here's my setup, and as you can see I've tried the wirless mouse route before

http://bradster.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=44d8b4d13376e823267fe9d8ea037a 53&topic=9.0 ('http://bradster.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=44d8b4d13376e823267fe9d8ea037a 53&topic=9.0')

[Morganti]

I'm PVE'ing with 5 guys doing level 4 missions and I don't find it horrible to play all of them at once. My method of doing so is I have a raven with 78k range that I attack at range with, 2 harbingers that I use for short range damage (once the Raven gets aggro I also charge battleships with afterburnerd harbingers while the Raven pops frigates and other BS's). Medium drones on the Raven chew on cruiser and larger ships and drones off the harbingers chew on frigs. My 4th ship is currently an Augoror that continually pumps cap into the Raven so I can active shield boost while not paying a ton of attention to my tank (I liked the Drake passive tank much better for this, but Raven damage is nicer). 5th ship is a destroyer salvager that comes in mid-fight and cleans up the trash.

Multiboxing combat is quite doable, just have to practice it. I can't speak for doing it in PvP, but IMO if you have a reasonable tank on your ships and can dictate the fight either via CC or numbers you should have a reasonable shot.

Edit: BTW, I'm not broadcasting any keys, I'm just using multiplicty (basically a nicer synergy) to jump between computers with 1 mouse/keyboard. I don't see how broadcasting would honestly help a ton in EVE from what I'm seeing.

[Voigtkampf]

As for the EVE corp, I generally like the idea, however, for myself personally, I see two problems; first of all, I cannot really pass as a multiboxer, only yet to get my second machine for this, and second, I have 5 accounts (struggling not to get more!) oh which two are in my own corp I run with my friends, some half dozen of them (most of them in Europe timezone), whereas I've sent 3 of my other toons down to 0.0, where they do dwell... Mostly, that is. Also, if you should limit yourself to multiboxers only, you will probably have difficult times recruiting enough people for it.

I could offer you sanctuary in my own corp, if you would like, and would be prepared to help you folks out with research and freighter service if you should need it. Maybe a mix between multiboxers and "normal" players would be a possible solution as well?

[Bradster]

As for Multiboxers only, the same could be said for WOW at the start, I’m sure there’s a lot more out there in EVE that were not aware about. However that said they are most likely invested in their current corp which makes your problem a concern.

That was the reason behind the alliance. Right now I hang out with only one person from my corp. All 46 of us in this corp have our groups of people we hang out with from all different corps in the alliance.

My idea more or less was for a community like this one, help each other out and take part in some unique things such as 10 boxing ops or more and so on. More to gain as a whole rather then solo even with a ton of toons at once J

On a good note I decided to sell my 2 POS’s on rare moods (Plat, Chron) I made 1.4B isk! A nice profit, I must continue moon scanning again soon! I preordered a Freighter in 20 days my newest alt can drive it. I also finally broke down and decided to buy a Navy Issue Raven since I’ve wanted one for so long. I’m in high sec this week. Wanted to do a couple of missions because believe it or not I miss doing them. Figured I’d collect a ton of rig parts have a little fun then jump back to 0.0 this weekend. Yes the Navy issue is in empire, and no I will NOT take that to 0.0 I’m not THAT rich. Basically it’s my little retreat from 0.0, very quite no one local place to relax. My alt is like 3.9 standing. Figured I’d boost it up to 5.0 in the event I want to place a POS down here. I want to start stocking up now for building things when that time comes. Weather it be my own corp or someone elses.

[Voigtkampf]

Quite willing to give it a go and discuss it, will contact you ingame and see if we can brainstorm something.

[Bradster]

Quite willing to give it a go and discuss it, will contact you ingame and see if we can brainstorm something. Sounds like a plan.

For the rest of you


For those that contact me in game. I’ve had a lot of people contact me on the forums and directed them on who to join for what their looking for. If you’re looking for a 0.0 corp and ask me to get you invited into the one I belong too I will do just that. However recommending you, your actions reflect on me.

Recently someone asked me for an invite, they left corp shortly after. The reason given was that their account got hacked. I got them invited again, they left again same thing was stated. At this time I have reason to believe because of the length of time that has passed the person that contacted me for the invite from here was the hacker of the account. And the person playing it now is the correct legal user of it.

So please don’t pull this shlt with me, I’m trying to do the community a favor for those of us who like the 0.0 experience, lets not ruin that mkay?

[Bradster]

This weekend was awesome.


First I went back to empire on Friday and decided, what the hell I’ll do a mission. I wanted some rig parts and well it’s one of the best places for it. So I got “Worlds Collide” level 4. If you didn’t know this already this is the hardest mission in the game. Many like myself always skip this one as it’s just too damn hard. Not me!

I’m in the process in finishing off making this video at x8 speed complete clear duel-boxing it, I cleared every single room. Also got an overseer spawn that dropped a Slave implant worth144m isk.

On Saturday back in 0.0 I decided to do some exploration. A few more skills finished and I thought perhaps it would be enough to find one. So I started dropping Multipecs around a few systems and got a unknown hit. Setup my quest probes and book marks. Hour past and my probes expired. Setup the probes differently and new book marks and tried again (thank go I can do other things on the other accounts). 4th scan I got a result!
Fast forward I found 4 results and finally found a Gate. Gurista Military base. I read in the Plex database this plex required 10 battle ships and was extremely hard.

So I called in some friends on short notice and there were 6 of us I was the tank and I had my alt in a Osprey taking care of the logistic part. Who ever said you needed 10 Battle ships was full of it. You could duo it with a logistic ship in tow. First room about 30 battle ships, 15 cruisers and 10 frigates (at once), at first I was on the line with my tank, it was extremely close to breaking, but after the frigs quickly popped it was doable. I did however ate up all my Cap boosters like candy to make it happen, but no warp outs.

2nd room omfg. Another large spawn, after it was cleared we had to destroy a station, this station does 6k EM damage (none of us fit EM as the npcs we were fighting didn’t use em) this station does that amount of damage every 30 seconds. In one volley I lost my alt Osprey, another volley later I had friends warping out. Three of us left we get it to structure and it finally stops (this thing has a ton of HP!) Down one Osprey every comes back, we blow up the structure (no Escalation) another group spawn with a 10.5 bounty dread spawn! All said in done our luck was not with us. No faction loot, just named crap, lost 2 Ospreys. But after the bounty and salvage still made out pretty good.

I stopped all my alts in their tracks training, to switch to Osprey training. With 4 Ospreys in tow I can tank 1600DPS and that’s just t1 fitted, and without the Raven running the shield booster. Should be finished on Tuesday and I can 5 box most 10/10 plexs.

The following day I find another site, but it noted it wasn’t really worth wild. I decided to go ahead and give it a try. I jumped in to the system and started making my way to the site with my Ferox first (Its salvagers destroy ships don’t last more then 1 second in a belt). As I begin to warp local filled up as I was now the victim of a logon trap. Knowing I had no chance in hell I figured I’d try to pull the same thing and logoff skid myself. When I logged back in he was in station at the cloning facility, live in learn that doesn’t work XD

But on a good note I always scout with the cheaper of the ships first so I was able to turn the battle ship around, get help and have my revenge AND got most of my loot back and enough to pay for another ferox lol.

Rest of the weekend was spent doing pvp, I think I got 22 kills this weekend which isn’t too bad. Decided to to try a ECM boat, and thus far I think I’m going to stick to using it for a while, I feel it brings more to the fleet.

A crow fully fitted costs 18M and has shlt dps (but it’s not designed to be a damage dealer).

A Blackbird fully fitted is 5m and I can jam 3 ships at once. Crap dps for a cruiser of course but its better then a crow. So I flew this extremely cheap shit all weekend and it wouldn’t die! I haven’t lost it in fleet vs. fleet yet. I had to warp out a few times being primary but over all I experienced the effects it has in a group environment and I like it. Pretty soon I’ll be training for Heavy Interdictor, which really isn’t all that long 20d to learn the ship and the warp bubble. The bubble is what takes all the time.

[Voigtkampf]

Great report, amte, sounds like awesome fun you've had!

Sadly, I've had tons of work recently, and could barely log into EVE, and when I did, I didn't find you online. Should get better these days. Almost let a POS run out of fuel, gah. :rolleyes: Fancy dealing with Worlds Collide, I am looking forward to see that video.

Still working on getting dual boxing started, lots and lots of work, gah, not enough time to play... :pinch: See you online soon, hopefully!

[Nirthal]

I played EvE for over 3 years under the name of Chronus26. I used to be a pretty active community member, so my name might ring some bells somewhere for the older players.

I used to run 2-3 clients (1 box, alt-tabbing) most of the time, and have been known to Pvp on multiple clients... usually Carrier-Battleship, but I've done Carrier-Dread-Battleship, Carrier-Carrier and Carrier-Recon-Battleship too... the hardest thing had to be running two BS and fleet commanding at the same time...

I stopped playing Eve when I started playing WoW back in September. I cancelled my subscriptions a couple of weeks ago. Eve just ain't what it used to be.

[Crazylike]

I've been playing EvE since 2005 on and off. Got 5 accounts, but my friend has taken over 2 of them for aslong as he plays. I usually only play with 2 accounts at the same time, doing missions. One for tank/dps and the other for looting/salvaging/gangboosting. I use 2 computers, 2 keyboards and 2 mices and this setup is annoying the crap out of me. I have been using Synergy now and then, but one of the clients seem to CTD a lot when i use it. After reading this thread, I'll check out Multiplicty and see if that's any better.

I have all of my toons in the same corp, which also got some of my friends in it, but they rarely play nowadays. I was in a corp that was a member of the Foundation alliance a while back, so I was in 0.0 and doing fleet combat, but imo, it was usually very boring cause of all the lag. If we were lucky, only about 50 would join our fleet, and we would roam around ganking other fleets. But very often, we would have a 150+ fleet and.. well.. it lags. One time we camped a 150+ fleet outside a station and they all suddenly undocked + we had some more warping in on us. GAWD... the laaaag.. i couldnt do anything, and i have a fairly great computer (the other one I have is not "GREAT" but its decent for missions). So it didnt take long until I turned and headed back to empire.

Now I'm thinking about joining a corp with more people than just myself and the occasional friend popping in to say hello and then leave again. What i am looking for is level 5 mission running (never seen a lvl 5 before, but ive also heard they are not worth it right now), and most importantly, small gang combat. Me and two friends went to 0.0 not long ago, to try and gank single targets. We ended up camping a gate and we managed to pop a few targets but then a couple of nerds came and killed us. It was fun, but we lack experience. I'm the only one who has been to 0.0 before, the others have barely even done a mission, and they play too rarely to keep up with me. If anyone has such a corp, please let me know.

Maria Epiconthe ~ Main (Was alt before), can fly most caldari ships, frigs, t2 frigs, destroyers, cruisers, t2 cruisers, bc's, bs's.. i run a lot of missions, and have been in some fleet combat before.
*Secret from public* ~ Alt (Was my main before), can fly some minmatar ships, concentrating on looting/salvaging/gangboosting and in very near future exploration. Skilling for cheetah.
*Secret from public* ~ Alt, can fly megathron. made him to be a pvp char at first, but ive found out that ill just use maria for that since that char has a lot of combat skills and such already, so ive figured that i'll use this char for a dps boost in missions. only problem is, boxing in this game kinda seems to suck, and i already play with 2 clients

[hardcoded]

Chimay
My main is Chimay.ROFL. Hi Chimay. Funny seeing you here. :) I ran/run under the name AlphaGeek1 in eve, or HardCoded2 for more pvp oriented stuff.

I ran a corp for my alts and the alts of other multiboxers or otherwise hardcore players for some time. We worked with similar corporations as well(Hi again Chimay!). High-end multibox roaming or camping pvp was pretty fun imo. Mining with 6/7 characters paid the bills(hulks, itty 5s, someone running tank and gang mods), you could also run multiple characters to clear level 4 missions faster.

PVP was a bit tricky. For camping, pvp was awesome. You can have a carrier for support, delegating fighters out to other ships for extra DPS, have one client as an interdictor and/or heavy interdictor to catch your prey, one or many bs for some dps, and however many shield/armor boosters for fleet survivability, which could also be crammed with jammers.(these guys make survivability of the rest of your gang go waaay up, as they are likely to attract a lot of attention, and if not, they'll do a lot of good) Roaming is a bit more intense due to loading times after jumping through grids, so one or two per machine whatever configuration, although you want to pick shiptypes that have different frequency of use, like the setup I used for camping. I'd usually fly an interdictor(before hics), a jammer and a heavy hitter. For large fleet fights, multiboxing is pretty lame. Really you should only run one eve client per computer, as the simplistic client design maxes out your memory and connection, especially when grids load/desynch.

I haven't thought of how to other features of octopus or anything like that, but multiple characters provide a huge advantage in eve. I recommend it :-)

edit: that "extra" support character is really crucial in maximizng synergy, as they either provide passive buffs, abilities that you didn't have before (remote rep), and fill out your gang nicely. Remote sensor boosting characters in your gang is also a huge passive buff that you can just leave on and forget about, especially if you fit that character ina cheap ship ie blackbird or osprey.