Multiboxing huntards in arena

[Nikita]

Comp:
This composition consists of playing 4-5 hunters.


Specs:
We have 3 different to chose from as a hunter.

- Beast Mastery
This is how I specc my main.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cfhfsoGdRRoZI0M

This is my specc for my alt hunters, The reason why I spec BM is the simple reason of insane burst while in BW, and crazy pet dmg. Pre s9 my pets were critting for 15-20 k on full PvP geared toons. And exotic pets can buff your team pretty good compared to "normal" pets.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cfhfsoGdRRofM

- Pets
For a PvP group I`d go with:
Hunter 1 - Devilsaur for 5 % critt, 10 % reduced healing debuff on target
Hunter 2 - Corehound for reduced casting time on target (and Bloodlust7Heroism for PvE)
Hunter 3 - Silithid for stamina buff and web ability (same as a priest buff)
Hunter 4 - Shale Spider for kings (same as a paladin buff)
Hunter 5 - Bear for reduced physical dmg taken (if you run with 5 hunters)

- Marksmanship
I havent gotten too deep in the MM tree, but have tried it a few times. The spec does have some potential in arena. You can round robin scatter shot and silence to lock down 1 healer.
Specc for your main.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/Butterbow/talent/primary

Spec for your alts.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#Yc01!Y!ShkdjbbQhd!Pad

- Survival
*saved space for later*


Glyphs:
- Beast Mastery
Prime: Glyph of Kill Command, Glyph of Arcane Shot, Glyph of Kill Shot
Major: Glyph of Disengage, Glyph of Bestial Wrath, Glyph of Mending
Minor: Glyph of Feign Death, Glyph of Revive Pet

- Marksmanship
Prime: Glyph of Chimera Shot, Glyph of Arcane Shot, Glyph of Kill Shot
Major: Glyph of Disengage, Glyph of Masters`s Call, Glyph of Concussive Shot
Minor: Glyph of Feign Death, Glyph of Revive Pet


- Survival
*saved space for later*

DPS rotation:
- Beast Mastery
Main DPS shot for a BM hunter is Arcane Shot and Kill Command. Its important as a BM hunter to allways keep Kill Command on CD, use it everytime the CD is off.
1.
/cast Hunter's Mark
/petfollow [target=pettarget,exists]
/cast Mend Pet
/petattack [target=pettarget,noexists]

2.
Kill`O`Button
#showtooltip Bestial Wrath
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rabid
/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Bestial Wrath
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/use 13
/
use 14

3. Spam Arcane Shot/Kill Shot
If you run out of focus use this to regen focus. This will shoot Cobra Shot, and use Kill Command everytime its off CD.
#showtooltip Cobra Shot
/assist focus
/castsequence reset=6 Cobra Shot, Cobra Shot, Cobra Shot, Cobra Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command

If you are locked down, use this on all hunters. These abilities can hit pretty hard when 4-5 hunters are hitting you.
/assist focus
/cast Raptor Strike
/cast Wing Clip

Disengage macro:
I have this macro on my main hunter
/cast Ice Trap
/cast Disengage

On my other hunters I use this:
/cast Explosive Trap
/cast Disengage


- Marksmanship
For Marksmanship I use the same macros as in Beast Mastery spec, except my Kill`O`Button.
This uses Aimed Shot as your primary attack, with Chimera Shot closely followed.
When it comes to rotation Id start with sending pets in, pop trinkets/CDs, shoot Chimera Shot first then spam Arcane Shot. If you run out of focus, use this:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/assist focus
/castsequence reset=6 Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command


Disengage macro:
I have this macro on my main hunter
/cast Ice Trap
/cast Disengage

On my other hunters I use this:
/cast Explosive Trap
/cast Disengage

If you are locked down, use this on all hunters. These abilities can hit pretty hard when 4-5 hunters are hitting you.
/assist focus
/cast Raptor Strike
/cast Wing Clip

- Survival
*saved space for later*


Gear PvP:

- Gemming

Agility ftw! No matter what specc you are in!

- Enchanting
As a BM hunter you can mix it up. But a pure mastery build combined with mastery use trinkets would give you insane pet critts. I havent tried this one yet, but am going to try it the next two weeks. Will let you know how it went.

Strats:
- Healers
As any multiboxing comp you need a solid healer such as a priest or holy paladin. Mix it up to suit your playstyle.

- Arena
The idea of multiboxing hunters in arena is to suprise the opposing team.
Start in stealth, dont move at all, and make sure your healer is not LOSing you, or is too far away. Let them come to your healer before you use my 3 step kill recipe. Its the basic start on every map, except Dalaran Sewers. Here you cant start stealthed, would be washed out and the opposing team would know what to do (most of the times)

- BG
In BGs its crucial that you team up with a healer, especially the smaller BGs. Hunters dont have healing abilities, so a healer is a must here!

- RBG
I havent tried RBG yet on my hunters. Will be doing that in the upcoming weeks.
Id run with 4 hunters as an attack team with a personal resto druid.
Get 1 war, 1 DK, 1 mage, 1 holy pala and 1 disc priest/resto shaman to guard towers and call out incs while your team assists whoever needs some Horde/Alliance bastards killed.

If I`ve missed out on anything crucial, please let me know. And im not a grammar god, so trolls keep out!
Nikita <3

[Ualaa]

Not sure how far you'd get.

Hunters rock at range, more so than most.
But you cannot always guarantee range.

Some people love them in BG's.
Many have tried and given up on them.
Not saying you cannot make them work, or that they're not workable.
If you have hunters, at any level bracket, you could test them out.

[Jeremiah]

Hey,

I've had the same thought but I agree, they'd stink in an arena if you came up against....say another boxing doing a 4 DK team or 4 Ret team.

In BGs however, especially the larger brackets, you'd own! I'm doing a 3 hunter team at the moment with only questing greens and I've swung battles against entire BoA toon teams. They just have unrivaled damage at a distance. You're right, no one can outheal or defend against that.

[katsurahama]

I had five bm hunters at 70 during wotlk. They were devastating in av. Id stand on the hills overlooking choke points and put a ring of frost traps, ice traps, and flares around them team. Id keep 1 or 2 pets with me to bestial wrath/intimidate sneaky rogues. Only mages could match the range and a single mage versus five hunters meant instagib if i had any mana at all. Hunters are a fun class but with all the movement and LOS in arena i would think it would be very frustrating.

Keep us updated!

[Nikita]

Well, hunters can run when stealthed giving a great advantage in arena. And lets face it, if you kill a healer on the opposing team, your chances for a win is good :) blizzard gave hunters a larger utility of pets in cataclysm! With 4-5 hunters you can stack great buffs which will give you awesome survivability in BGs and arena! Im currently leveling 5 hunters, main is lvl 81, rest is lvl 73. And I must say, Ive never had this much fun in BGs. Not even my 4 x lvl 85 shamans have this kind of dmg or burst :D right noe Im using a devilsaur for reduced healing debuff + 5 % critt, corehound for 25 % reduced casting time + bloodlust, raptor for 12 % reduced armor debuff, silithid for stamina buff and going for a shale spider once my main dings lvl 82 for the kings buff :)

[Nikita]

Just a screenie of my hunters :)



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[Fat Tire]

Cool, if you plan to stay in the 60s, youre all set.

At 85 you will get wrecked.

[Multibocks]

yep, maybe BGs will be ok, but arenas will be bad =/

[Nikita]

Have you tried hunters @ lvl 85 in arena? :) or is this just speculations?

[Multibocks]

no and Im glad to be proven wrong, but I think it will be ugly

[Nikita]

Of course some pratice is needed, but been playing hunter since TBC. And really feeling optimistic about this team. Atleast more then my ele shamans which suck atm. Something to spend my time on while waiting for blizzard to wake up and give ele shamans the burst they deserve :)

Lets talk tacticts here!

What target to go for first?

Id pick targets based on health pools, but mostly on classes who cant pop "Shield" abilities like mages with iceblock, hunters with deterrence, palas with divine shield, priests with that gay purple cloud.
The perfect target would be shamans, druids and locks perhaps. Thou locks have some insane healing abilities.

What specc for arena?

Leaning more and more for MM specc, chimera shot which heals you for 5 % is pretty sweet. And you got readiness which finished all your cooldowns, meaning you have 8 x freezing traps to CC melee swarming you. BUT BM is also kinda sweet, insane dmg for a limited amount of time, and having insane pet dmg which gives your team pretty awesome buffs.

Which healer is the best for this combo?

A resto druid would be nice, running in stealthed with my hunters. And staying @ range of the opposing team. Making them split apart, trying to find my team. Giving me the opportunity to pick a target and nuke down before their DPS/Healers can react. Holy pala is awesome aswell, but then Id blow my cover by giving him all the buffs from pets and myself. The opposing team would see what buffs he had, and probably group together behind a pillar waiting for that reveal-all-stealthed-mofos orb to come up.

Pets?

Id go for silithid for stamina buff and web ability, devilsaur for 5 % critt and 10 % reduced healing, raptor for 12 % armor debuff (clothies will die), and the last pet would either be a cat for str/agi buff or a owl for 10 sec dissarm every 30 sec which kinda rocks.

Gems?

Again it depens on what specc, for MM id go for pure agi gems, but for BM Id go for pure AP.

Opening wave?

Running in camo`ed, laying down 3 x freezing traps and 1 frost trap to prevent melee swarming me giving me some time to reposition if they start humping my hunter legs. Then send in pets to your target, and popping all you got. BM would rock here with insane dmg, pet stuns and such. Too bad we cant use bloodlust/heroism/time warp anymore in arena. Core houd got that ability, and that would rock in arenas :/

[Ualaa]

You could try a twink bracket.

If you go 70, in the 70-74 bracket, you can do arena too.
If you go 72 or 74, you're stronger in battlegrounds, but cannot do arena.

The 70-74 is a very populated twink bracket.
Lots in the 80-84 bracket too, but not sure if that will remain a twink bracket or if it is people leveling up.

If you go with a twink bracket...
A single weekend of dedicated play, will get you a full set of PvP gear including weapons.
Which will never need to be upgraded.
You'll equal everyone else for Best In Slot, at least for PvP gear.
So you'll win, based on your coordination, timing or skill.
And will not lose because they outgeared you.

Not sure how Hunters will fare in the higher twink brackets.
But doesn't hurt to experiment in each bracket, to see if you like one.
If you do, disable experience and you're set.
If you don't, continue to level.

[Nikita]

So far Ive rocked every bracket and BG since I started leveling, hunters are simply OP in low lvls, similar to rogues you'd say! Talked to some high rated hunters @ lvl 85 and they keep telling me about 25-35 k critts on full pvp geared ppl, so cant wait to actually verifie this :D

[Nikita]

A new screenie of my hunters rolling through Gundrak on normal mode :) Starting to farm tier5 for the 2 set bonus real soon, pets starting to take alot of dmg on large pulls. Main is named Butterbow, alts are CPbow, retardbow, crabsbow, pewbow. Following pet names are yousuck, youlame, youcake, youstink and youstupid! :)

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[Nikita]

Update on my 5 hunters rocking Northrend atm!

Utgarde Keep
Violet Hold
Azjol-Nerub
Ahn`kahet: The Old Kingdom
Drak`Tharon Keep
Gundrak
Halls of Stone
Halls of Lightning
Utgarde Pinnacle
The Nexus
Trail of the Champion -- What a fucking shitty instance, damn mount fight, damn splash dmg!! Lost 2 hunters @ the last 10 % on the death knight. But when I ding 80 ill probably run trough this like a hot knife in butter.

All done on normal mode, havent tried the other dungeons, BUT did these without any problems, now that my hunters have misdiretion, my tank bear can pwnd through large pulls without losing aggro. Havent countered alot of splash dmg so far, but UP gave me some nasty poison debuffs I had to splitt my group in being able to survive it :) Bosses die fast, and loot is raining :D Thinking about upgrading to wrathfull bows once I hit 80 with my alts. What do you guys think? save the honor and wait for Cataclysm greenies or upgrade my bows?

Status on Lvl:

Retardbow 78, 2/3
Cpbow 78, 2/3
Pewbow 79, 1/3
Crabsbow 78, 2/3
Butterbow 82, 1/4

[shadewalker]

I would save the honor and go for the cata greens

[Nikita]

You know where I can get the first Cataclysm ranged wep @ lvl 80? Cus the wrathfull bow is pretty sweet, would be a huge upgrade from what I have now. Currently running with a 156 dps gun, and the wrathfull bow got like 298 dps on it.

[cmeche]

Green Cata Bow (http://www.wowhead.com/item=59771)
Wrathful Bow (http://www.wowhead.com/item=51394)
Not much difference in stats. I would say that if you are Honor capped now, then buy the Bow. If not then go for a quest reward.

And here is a list of the quest reward Bows (http://www.wowhead.com/items=2.2?filter=minle=260;maxle=400;cr=166:18;crs =4:1;crv=0:0).

[Nikita]

Hmm, sitting on 3 k honor on each hunter! Would love to have good dmg when starting om cata dungeons :)

[katsurahama]

I'd like to see some videos of your team, if you have any.

[Nikita]

Havent recorded anything, but will look into it this weekend! Supprised that this havent been done and recorded before with 5 hunters! Insane survivability, and good dmg. Mostly running with lvl 70 quest items :)

[Boylston]

I'm away for a few months and nothing changes....

Seriously?

[Fat Tire]

I'm away for a few months and nothing changes....

Seriously?

Dont bother, this guy is delusional. He thinks that just because his hunters are OP in the lower tier brackets(hint all boxing is OP in the lower tier) that it will some how translate to 85 bgs and arena.

Just another theorycrafting champion.

[coglistings]

dual healer arena will make for near impossible for a single target burn. Mixed range and melee will be interesting as well.

[Ualaa]

I'm definitely turning experience off, with my Shock/Exorcism team.
Just need to get a bit more frustrated with arena on the DK's, and switch teams again.

But if you don't mind the wait... queues aren't terribly slow.
Turn off experience in a bracket that you destroy in.
Your gear will eventually cap for your level.
If you're 70th or 80th, there is even pvp gear for honor.

[Nikita]

Dont bother, this guy is delusional. He thinks that just because his hunters are OP in the lower tier brackets(hint all boxing is OP in the lower tier) that it will some how translate to 85 bgs and arena.

Just another theorycrafting champion.

You are flaming me? There is not a single class who can combine this much CC, burst and buffs to a team without having to mix up teams! And we all know that sucks in arena! The reason why Im hoping this will work is the fact that I can run stealthed, giving me time to pick my target, and let the other team splitt up. Not saying this is a 2 k team, but there is a better potential boxing hunters then ele shamans. I know this, I have 4 x ele shamans in lvl 85. 4 hunters can lock down a single target for 8 sec or more, you have 4 x charges from pets, 4 x intimidations + 4 scatter shots. I believe multiboxing hunters will be stronger in arena, and Im willing to bet my ass that I can reach 1500 rating or more in 5s this season.

[Fat Tire]

You are flaming me? There is not a single class who can combine this much CC, burst and buffs to a team without having to mix up teams! And we all know that sucks in arena! The reason why Im hoping this will work is the fact that I can run stealthed, giving me time to pick my target, and let the other team splitt up. Not saying this is a 2 k team, but there is a better potential boxing hunters then ele shamans. I know this, I have 4 x ele shamans in lvl 85. 4 hunters can lock down a single target for 8 sec or more, you have 4 x charges from pets, 4 x intimidations + 4 scatter shots. I believe multiboxing hunters will be stronger in arena, and Im willing to bet my ass that I can reach 1500 rating or more in 5s this season.

Nope I am not flaming you.

I am calling you a theorycrafting champion. You didnt prove my point or anything though with the rest of your post.........

[cmeche]

But if you don't mind the wait... queues aren't terribly slow.
Turn off experience in a bracket that you destroy in.
Your gear will eventually cap for your level.
If you're 70th or 80th, there is even pvp gear for honor.

I know its a little different while boxing, but recently I played my wrathful geared sub rogue for the first time since Cata came out. My hp was around 35k, but I was playing against lvl 84's with anywhere from 70k-100k hp. And not only do they have higher hp, but their damage topped mine.
So, I would say that if you are thinking about turning xp off dont do it untill you hit 84.....and then then find some good ilvl blue 333 gear and proceed to become godly. My rogue is now 83, running around 50k hp wearing cata greens and damage is ALOT higher allready. I am sure that resilience helps a little, but I would advise on lvling to 84 then turn xp off.

I am thinking about doing this with my rogue, where there are much better upgrades pre-85 than what I have now.

K, scratch that thought. I thought they changed the seperate BGs for twinks. But i just turned Xp off to test and Average wait time for a Random is Unavailable

[Nikita]

If you read the entire thread you would see that I have 4 x lvl 85 ele shamans, and do know what 4 k resilience can do with your burst! And ofc I know multiboxing @ any lvl and bracket is OP! I can only hope that I will kick 2/3s of what I do now in lvl 80-84 bracket! Multiboxing is hard no matter what class you use, but I think multiboxing hunters will give you a higher chance to get the first kill in arena, dont you agree?

[Ualaa]

The 70-74 bracket is the primary twink bracket (imo) for disabling experience.
There are a massive number of players at this level range.
Queues are relatively fast.

Your level 70 PvP gear, is basically best in slot, with the exception of a bit of Sunwell gear.
A weekend of battlegrounds, gets you gear that will never need to be upgraded ever again.

And there are a lot of compositions that can dominate in that bracket as a boxer.
Far more than at 80-84 or 85.

Plus if you want to arena, so stick at 70th with your team.
An equal number of 74's won't automatically beat you, every time.
Try saying the same, for a boxed group of 80's against an equal number of 84's.

[Nikita]

Twinks aint good enough, and for this team to work I need camoflage :) which is only obtainable @ lvl 85

[Nikita]

So been working on specs lately on my 5 hunters.

Dungeon spec BM:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cfhfskGzRRodrM
Running with 2 bears, 1 for tanking, other one for 10 % reduction to phsyical dmg and intervene.

PvP spec BM:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cfhfskGdRRofM

PvP spec MM:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#ccoZrdGkGRMudoG <-- Only 1 hunter needs 1 point in Trueshot Aura. And the reason I take rapid killing is if you kill 1 guy in arena or a BG, your next Aimed shot, cobra shot and steady shot will do 20 % more dmg, and thats alot!

PvP spec Surv:
Still trying to figure out what is best here. Wyern sting on all targets would be sweet. + you have some nice cooldowns on traps and such. + you can apply the whole opposing team with serpent sting with multishot which would give the healers some dispelling and healing madness for a few secs :)

/target arena1
/cast Wyern Sting
/target arena2
/cast Wyern Sting
/target arena3
/cast Wyern Sting
/target arena4
/cast Wyern Sting

[Nikita]

Update on hunters:

Main 82, 2/3 to lvl
Alts are 81, 1/2 to lvl


Did some boss quests today in Mount Hyjal, used 2 GCD to nuke down 184 k hp. 5 x aimed shot and 5 x kill shot. Pretty happy about that :) Cant wait to try arena in 85.

[TeamGrizzly]

Tried leveling 5 hunters to 80 during WotLK. They rocks in world PVP and BGs but gets raped bad in Arenas.

[Nikita]

Well, in 80 we didnt have camoflage. And thats the only reason I Think this will work :) I dont think this comp will reach 1800 rating, but will be able to get my weekly cap

[Nikita]

Just finished Blackrock caverns today on normal mode. Only had a wipe on 3 boss, rest was easy! Gonna do this instance for some decent xp :)

[katsurahama]

Youre clearly having fun and thats what matters. i loved it when i had five hunters.

You should try AV just for kicks and see how it goes.

[Nikita]

Been doing sota and AV and have been crushing every alliance player out there! Won every BG since I started in the 80 bracket :)

[Nikita]

Update on hunters:

Main: 84
Alts: 83

Did The Stonecore today, had zero wipes on the 3 first bosses. Last boss was a huge issue due to the fact that she spawned 30-40 adds at the same time, while I needed to dps in order to heal my pet (tier5, 2 set bonus). Taking alof of dmg, worried about HC trash in lvl 85 :/ But after 5 wipes I got her :)

[Multibocks]

You 85 yet?

[Nikita]

Main 84, and 78 % into lvl. Alts are lvl 84, and 10-30 % into lvl. Been cruising the last lvls in my own pace. Doing stonecore for rep, dragon mount, trinkets and weapons. Finished twilight highland ring of blood quest thingy last night for the sweet 333 item lvl bow :) gonna do some more quest here for an awesome stamina + mastery trinket for pet tanking, then switching to vortex pinnacle for the last xp. Got around 3,5 k honor saved up, gonna buy the pvp helmet when I ding

[Glenni]

Sounds sweet, let us know how it goes once you hit 85 :)

[Jeremiah]

I'm working on a 4 hunter and 1 healer team for AV and IoC. Plan to use it on top of bunkers/chokepoints or as a solid backline in turtles in AV and as an offence squad in IoC, jumping into enemy base and holding down the guns in a tower for when we do a lemmings strat :)

Also, I agree. They'd get raped in arena. Any 4 DK + Pally boxer would make mincemeat out of you

[Nikita]

Jeremiah, what kind of pets are you using? :) Well, I know I can get my 5 wins each week! They will probably do just as good as ele shamans atm! And thats okay by me :)

[Nikita]

Update on hunters:

main is 1 % from lvl 85. Currently locked because my alts are missing around 50 % to lvl 85. And I wanna do BGs with my whole team :)

Alts are at 47 to 60 % to lvl 85.

Finished up the Vortex Pinnacle today + the first boss in the Lost City of the Tol`Vir. But trash is hitting hard now on my pet, hard to keep him up from time to time :/

[Ualaa]

Also, I agree. They'd get raped in arena. Any 4 DK + Pally boxer would make mincemeat out of you


While a given composition might not work against another boxed composition...
And it is fun to be the stronger boxed composition, when you encounter another boxer...

I'm more interested in how it works against masses of normal players, as you'll face groups of 1-10 individual players quite often in battlegrounds.
For me, the battleground question is: Can your composition consistently handle larger groups of opposition?

I don't see Hunters working too well in Arena.
But would love to be proved wrong.

[Nikita]

Well, today in eots I met around 6 alliance players from 82 to lvl 84 at the same time when defending mage tower! My 5 lvl 84 hunters crushed all and was praised in BG chat! This comp is so much fun to play with, you have all these different pets, traps and skills which is awesome for multiboxing. Ofc they lack healing, but you got first aid and food! I know there is a huge gap in the 80-84 bracket, but god damn I rocked :D cant wait to get vicious bows and 2H for my team. And if 5s aint working out there is allways 2s and 3s :)

[katsurahama]

Any videos yet? I'd particularly like to see one of your hunters in AV.

[Ualaa]

My hunters have alchemy.
For the WotLK era, the unlimited use healing potion is close to a 40% heal.

And I always try to spec into Spirit Bond.

They're doing their daily Truegold transmute (experimenting with 25x Truegold a day; mats cost a lot more than Life > Air... see if its more profitable), and of course their Grizzly Hills dailies.
The Priests are mid 77th, having only done 6 minutes of Grizzly Hills dailies, faithfully everyday since level 73.

[Nikita]

Not yet Im afraid :) but will be making one in the upcoming weeks as I gear up in the lvl 85 bracket

[Toned]

While a given composition might not work against another boxed composition...
And it is fun to be the stronger boxed composition, when you encounter another boxer...

I'm more interested in how it works against masses of normal players, as you'll face groups of 1-10 individual players quite often in battlegrounds.
For me, the battleground question is: Can your composition consistently handle larger groups of opposition?

I don't see Hunters working too well in Arena.
But would love to be proved wrong.

I dunno marksmen is pretty nuts right now.
Openning aimed shots + arcane + killshots could do some dmg.

Survival does alot of burst had has an extra cc, so you could have traps and sleeps going.

After the opener i have no idea how well the hunters would fair. 4 Hunters + a healer (non-boxed) probably a better comp if you were to get serious with multi-hunters.

[Nikita]

For 5s im not going 5 hunters, I have a disc priest friend of mine with over 4 k resilience and a shitload of hp! In arena I would go MM specc! All in camo, picking target, send in pets who are stealthed, 4 pet stuns, load up 4 x aimed shots and nuke as hell :) should be able to kill someone faster then 4 x ele shamans! And when melee close in I pop 4 x explosive trap + 4 x snake traps. That should take a big chunck of their hp.

[katsurahama]

My hunters have alchemy.
For the WotLK era, the unlimited use healing potion is close to a 40% heal.

And I always try to spec into Spirit Bond.

They're doing their daily Truegold transmute (experimenting with 25x Truegold a day; mats cost a lot more than Life > Air... see if its more profitable), and of course their Grizzly Hills dailies.
The Priests are mid 77th, having only done 6 minutes of Grizzly Hills dailies, faithfully everyday since level 73.

i dont want to hijack this thread but i have to ask Ualaa:
How do you do these in only six minutes? It takes me at least that long just to do that one stupid bandage quest. And walking those shredders back to the quest giver probably takes that long too because theyre so slow. I can see doing the ones near the lighthouse area that quickly but not all the dailies, especially the logging camp ones.

Which quests are you skipping?

I do 3 at the lighthouse area, 3 at the logging camp, and 1 at the small logging camp. I also do the pirate bombing quest and gargoyle shooting quest in hiwking fjord, though the bombing one probably takes too long for it to be worth doing. It takes me at least 30 minutes to do those nine dailies. Probably more like 45 since i dont have epic flight.

[Ualaa]

I fly over the edge (Amberpine Lodge) and grab the daily overlooking the area with alliance/horde npc's.
Basically just apply a dot to each horde npc in the area, running along not even stopping.
Then run back towards the NPC, to turn the quest in.
The NPC's kill each other, and one dot is enough for kill credit.

I fly (epic flyers on all teams) north to the area where the pieces are on the ground.
I only take three quests here.
Bandage friendlies, kill hostiles and collect parts.

I initially ignore hostiles and friendlies and concentrate on the parts.
Just basically run a big circuit, and collect everything, PiP swapping as necessary so nothing is wasted.
Probably average three circuits to finish for everyone, sometimes need a fourth.

Anytime there are 3+ friendly NPC's in the same general area, I have each toon banadage a different one.
Also do this, in a few places (like the south area by the river) where one can break follow and bandage one NPC, while the others run up and get the gear and spring, then come back down.

Once three of the toons are complete and I'm working on #4 and #5, I kill the horde NPC's.
Then do turn ins, and hearth to Amberpine Lodge.

Four dailies for me, versus nine for you.
That would be the time disparity.

[katsurahama]

Thanks, Ualaa.

Back on topic:

Make some BG videos, Nikita!

[Nikita]

Update on hunters:

Main lvl 85 :)

Alts missing around 30-40 % xp. Should take 2-3 hours or so. And today I got the mount drop from the Stonecore. Little picture I took infront of the instance :) Enjoy

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1431/stonecoremount.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/stonecoremount.jpg/)
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[Toned]

For 5s im not going 5 hunters, I have a disc priest friend of mine with over 4 k resilience and a shitload of hp! In arena I would go MM specc! All in camo, picking target, send in pets who are stealthed, 4 pet stuns, load up 4 x aimed shots and nuke as hell :) should be able to kill someone faster then 4 x ele shamans! And when melee close in I pop 4 x explosive trap + 4 x snake traps. That should take a big chunck of their hp.

Ya... 4 Ele's landing kills is rare most of us have gone 4 DK !

[Nikita]

Im more of a gimmick guy, Im looking for something that no one else has been sucsessfull with. Thats why I chose hunters

[Ualaa]

Hunters are fun.
And it is nice to be the pioneer, rather than one of the sixteen that have the same thing.

Hopefully you can make it work in arena.
I have no doubt of the ability to dominate in battlegrounds and world pvp.
And hunters have done a lot of PvE progression.

[Nikita]

Thats the thing, why dont try something that havent been done before? What IF Im able to reach 1800 rating in 5s with 4 hunters and a priest? Would be like a dream come true for me. Ive allways loved hunters, and been playing em since TBC. And I know I can make this team work, with a little practice, some tweaking and new gear :) Only problem now is to get the last 30 % to ding 85 on my alts. GOD Im bored of leveling.

[Nikita]

Update om hunters: dinged 85 today on all 5 hunters leaving me @ 98 k hp on all with pet buffs! Bought the bloodthirsty head right away since Ive saved up some honor from leveling, have enough for one more piece :) dropped an epic plate dps back today in Tol'Vir normal, in need of some gold for en enchants, glyphs and gems! Thinking about what prof to chose, I'd love to have alchemy for pots to do dungeons, and herbalism for minor healing and haste buff. But JC + herbalism is sweet aswell for kick ass gems stacked with haste and healing spell! Alch + herb = PvE proffs. JC + herb = PvP <-- what to chose?

[Ualaa]

I would strongly consider the PvP Gloves.
If the bonus is anything even half worthwhile to Hunters, this is probably the way to go.
You'll definitely be choosing between Chest, Legs, Gloves and whatever the other piece is, for the two piece Resilience bonus.
And have the PvP 2 minute trinket very high on your list as well.

After that, if you bought the crafted PvP sets... upgrade the slots without Resilience first.
If you did not buy the crafted sets, then probably get the four-piece bonus.

Make arena, whether 5's or 2's a priority.
The Conquest weapons are much better than anything previously available.




I would recommend Alchemy as one of your two professions on all of your teams.
The double duration potions is nice, and you can make a flask with unlimited uses, +80 to your attack stat.

The profession benefit is decent, but the main draw is the transmutes.

Initially take either of the other two specializations, then spend the gold to respec to transmute master; that is much cheaper than acquiring Primal Mights.
You could have a Potion and an Elixir master, if you'll make your own potions for use, but personally I'd go Transmute master on them all.

Take them only to 485 skill, for Transmute Elements.
Purchase Volatile Life (15 per toon).
And in Uldum (so you get Volatile Air, every time), do the Transmute Elements.
(You can park four of the five at Vortex Pinnacle, and have the fifth in Org/SW; instant-mail from the same account to the 5th toon, use the Summoning Stone, distribute Life, Transmute, transfer Air+Procs to the 5th and Hearth).
Air sells for more than twice Life, on my server... and while the value for each is slowly dropping, it is consistent and easy gold.
This transmute will grey out at 520 (of 525 max) skill; the cheapest path to 525 is 15x Whiptail + 15x Alicite per toon, which opens Truegold.

I'm sitting at +400,000g since the launch of Cataclysm, with an army of 29 transmutes per day.
I've missed a day here or there, probably 20 or so days of transmutes, but still basically 3 months of transmutes for 400k profit.
With 20% as many alchemists (initially), I would be +80k at this stage.

If you've recently done RAF, toons only need to be 75th to train Alchemy beyond 450.

[Mokoi]

Sounds fun, but what do you expect camouflage to do for you? lol the enemy can still see you, just cant target you right?

but if you can do it, go for it. i think its going to be a frustrating first week of BGs and arenas, though hehe.

[Ualaa]

BG's, at least the larger scale ones... probably not that frustrating.
Arena will likely suck initially... but once they have most of the honor gear, I've won in 2's with hunters in all three specs.

In 4.1, whenever that comes, the rate we gain honor is supposed to double.
4.2 is the new raid content/arena season, so no gear reset until then... plenty of time to get arena stuff, gradually.
And to have maxed out honor points to buy any of the (current) Conquest stuff that is missing when they change over.

[Nikita]

Arena update: did 3s yesterday, just wanted to try it out. Met a 122 k hp DK, 117 k hp hunter and a 123 k disc priest! They steamrolled over my hunters which only have 334 resilience and 96 k hp. Then decided om 2s, met a mage and disc priest with 120 k hp, FML :D so figured I needed more honor gear :) every match I did some dmg, and didnt lose a toon right away. Only did 1 match of 3s and 1 match of 2s

[Multibocks]

ah I see you are now enjoying the reality of it =D


5s are the only place I can see you having a chance because you can burst like crazy.

[Nikita]

ah I see you are now enjoying the reality of it =D


5s are the only place I can see you having a chance because you can burst like crazy.

Agree, 5s is the only place where 4 hunters can shine! Met a priest today when doing daily TB quests, and after sneaking up on him I gave him 5 aimed shots + 5 kill shots as a gift! He had 120 k hp, and went straight down. I know the damage to GCD some one is there, even with avg. 320 item lvl gear. But arena is another cenario, so just have to wait and see :)

[Ualaa]

Keep at it.

Until you have a fair amount of honor gear, you cannot be sure of the true potential of the team.
And the Conquest Bow/Crossbow/Gun, will be a rather large upgrade when you get it.
Once you have the tools, and you've played a bunch of games to learn what works and what needs to be changed...
Then you can decide the viability of the team.

Battlegrounds will place you a tier of gear behind the current best (arena/ratedBG's).
But with full Honor gear, you should be rather dominant in a lot of BG's.
Maybe not so much in the confines of a tower, but I'd imagine an AB style game (or AV between objectives) the Hunters would rock.

There are quite a few players out there with massive Resiliency.
I'd strongly consider paying if need be, to run 2's with your Hunters.
Conquest points cap each week is the most important thing.

[Nikita]

Thanks for all tips guys, best community ever :) been doing some BGs after Ive dinged, not as much as Id hope! Losing alot of BGs due to the fact some ppl cant play BGs, kinda annoying tbh. So today I met a full pvp geared warrior and rogue in Iland of conquest or something (they engaged me). Both got raped by my hunters, main toon had around 50 % hp left, alts around 80 % hp! Gonna try to put together some clips this weekend from BGs :)

[Ualaa]

BG's can be annoying, based purely on your teammates.

Recently, I rush Frost Wolf Keep (AV) with five other players.
We take the Reserve Hut, and one guy stays there.

I move to the choke point, the hill coming up the the entrance area.
I have to watch the entrance and the opening in the fence, but either way they basically have to go through me.
A resto druid is there with me, and the extra healing is nice; we repel several groups of 1-5 players.

The other three players tap East & West towers.

After a while the horde retakes the East tower.
So I head in, evidently a rogue/druid has snuck past me..
I run up the tower we still hold.. and the rogue finishes re-capping this one too.
I kill the rogue with ease, five on one.

What sucks, and the kicker...
There are three alliance in this tower, who did not stop the rogue from capping the tower.
They're just standing there.

Sometimes your team just sucks.
Not much you can do about that.

[Nikita]

Hehe, that sucks :/ thats life I guess. What kind of classes are you currently running with Ualaa? Gearing my hunters are going slow, BG ques are around 5-7 min wait time. Currently got 3 pieces of honor gear, havent bothered in getting the trinket cus I allways sneak @ the back in large fights pewpewing. Gonna pay some pro healer or dps to boost all my hunters in 2s until I get the weapons

[Ualaa]

Currently playing...

4x Frost Death Knights; Gnomettes named Cuddles, Huggles, Tickles and Snuggles.
Alt 130, for the final "e" in their names.
Intimidating names, and looks especially the pink pig-tails.

1x Holy Paladin; Human named Judsea.

Fairly close to following the DK Manifesto threads.
Have a thread, which is a text version of what I'm doing.
But I am constantly adapting what I have.

The honor grind is complete now.
Most of it was done during the last AV weekend; with four or five pieces slowly accrued since then.
Pally has the Conquest 1H healer mace, and full Honor gear including the two honor enchants.
DK's have full Honor gear, and are capped (in 2's) this week... two wins away from Conquest 2-Handers.

Pally, 3,353 Res.
DK's, 3,315 Res.

[Nikita]

And current rating? Ever played with shamans?

[Ualaa]

At 2k res, with crappy weaponry, did not manage a win or even a kill in 18 games played.

Had a thread looking for arena suggestions, and there were plenty that improved the set up.
And the suggestion to get better weapons.

Since they, I've finished their honor grind.
And am 2 arena wins (will have on Tue/Wed) from Conquest weapons.
Have not tried 5's since two weeks ago, but will give it a shot once we have the weapons.

In 2's, its always remake the team after 5 wins.
To reset the team rating to zero, for hopefully easier opponents.
At the end of a match, my MMR is 1300 or so when paired with a similar geared DPS.
The 2's rating sometimes raises to 800 or 900, before a reset, but is often reset at 500 or so rating.
Just disband, and make a new team with the same name.


I've taken Shammies into battlegrounds for mass pvp.
But have never done arena with them.

My arena background is a solo Elemental Shammy in 5's, during late BC before I was boxing.
And then dancing naked in arena for points, when losing was still points.
This is the first season I've tried to win arena as a boxer.
Fives were frustrating as hell, not even killing a single opponent in 18 games.
But the resilience was lower than any opponent basically, and the weapon sucks too.. 318 quest axe or something stupid.

[Nikita]

I started with pvp in wotlk as hunter, only did 2s. Nothing fancy rating, always a tier behind. Started boxing 4 ele shamans late wotlk, grinded honor and bought full wrathfull. Soloed large masses of allies, and couldnt wait to do 5s and dungeons in Cata like I did in wotlk. So lvled to 85, geared em up, won some, lost some. Then I missed out on 2 weeks of points, came back and got steamrolled! And after that I stopped playing em, just waiting for ele shamans to get buffed, better gear and nerfs to resilience. Guess it will be like wotlk, the last 2 seasons boxing ele shamans kicked ass. Kinda hoping that will happen to hunters aswell :)

[Nikita]

Update on arena: tried 5s today with a priest, all matches was against a 2300 mmr team :P met em 4 times in a row. Each time I got their hpala down to 25-30 %, then he popped bubble, then I switched to their boomkin, had him down on 40 % hp. Didnt get a single kill, BUT was great fun :) My team only have about 110 k hp with fortitude and king and around 1100 resilience :)

[Ualaa]

The battleground honor grind, will put you close to 3k resilience... entirely without arena.

Not saying don't arena each week.
The opposite in fact; get your points how you can.
Fives is preferable, as the team gets points with the least number of total games.
But even 2's, with you driving both or one Hunter, can work.

But also, every week that you do the arena thing...
You will have more Honor gear and be better off than the previous attempt.

[Nikita]

Yeah, played 2s with 1 hunter to get my points this week. By next wednesday I should have the vicious bow :) along with the trinket and 4 set bonus. But its kinda wierd, my hunters didnt die right away like my shamans did, and my hunters did alot more dmg, even thou their item lvl is 325 compared to my shamans which is 354.

[Nikita]

Just did 5s with a priest. Setup was 4 BM hunters + a priest.

My first serious week of 5s went like this:

3 - 4 stat

2 wins was against a team comp of: 1 DK, 1 hunter, 2 warriors, 1 rogue. They had around 130 k hp each! Pretty much face rolled em pretty bad. Took 1 warrior down pretty quick, then went straight for the hunter.

Last win was against a team comp of: 1 warrior, 1 disc priest, 1 shadow priest, 1 resto shaman, 1 enhancement shaman. This fight took some time aswell, the warrior went pretty fast down, after that I was CCed (dont have trinkets). Had some fear bombs, then I took out the resto shaman pretty quick. Suddenly the priest came walking towards me with 3 pets on him with only 30 k hp left. Pets are critting for 5-10 k each, so strats will be to send all 4 pets om the healer, and focus a dps! They need to fear my pets in order to survive the first burst wave. But most comps dont know that yet :D

Lost 1 match due to my healer failed. He went aggressive against a team and LOSed me and ran into the other group beneath the bridge in the map.

3 other matches lost cus of me not playing aggressive enough. I let them pick a target and let them open. (Not a good idea when running 4 hunters).

Stats on hunters: 1,8 k resilience on each. Main had the vicious bow, rest had 333 item lvl bows. But last win gave me enough points to buy the bow for the whole team. Cant wait for tomorrow :D

[coglistings]

Just did 5s with a priest. Setup was 4 BM hunters + a priest.

My first serious week of 5s went like this:

3 - 4 stat

2 wins was against a team comp of: 1 DK, 1 hunter, 2 warriors, 1 rogue. They had around 130 k hp each!

Last win was against a team comp of: 1 warrior, 1 disc priest, 1 shadow priest, 1 resto shaman, 1 enhancement shaman.

Lost 1matche due to my healer failed on one of them. Went aggressive against a team and LOSed me and the other team.

3 other matches lost cus of me not playing aggressive enough. I let them pick a target and let them open. (Not a good idea when ruinning 4 hunters).

Stats on hunters: 1,8 k resilience on each. Main had the vicious bow, rest had 333 item lvl bows. But last win gave me enough points to buy the bow for the whole team. Cant wait for tomorrow :D

gratz man :)

[katsurahama]

My fifth account is missing a hunter. I have three priests on it that I transferred from old accounts.

I had a hunter team in wotlk so I know they can be fun.

You're making me wish I had five hunters again!

[Nikita]

Well, tbh you cant do much running 5 hunters @ lvl 85. Go for 4 hunters and bring a healer friend! With 4 hunters + a healer you can do heroics, random BGs (10-15 man BGs alot easier). With 5 you get pwnded if you let melee come close to your group, and forget about heroics at this stage. But all in all, its great fun :) havent had this much fun since I played 4 x ele shamans back in WOTLK with full wrathfull gear!

[Nikita]

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4062/hunterj.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/hunterj.jpg/)


New screenie from doing the random BG today! Was pretty fun,

[Nikita]

Been working on arena strats this week, found some good methods for getting that first kill. On every map I start stealthed, putting down flare + 4 x explosive traps + 4 x snake traps. If I do this, the opposing team wont see me and gladius wont pick me up om the radar. My healer will go offensive, running around right outside the door from where Im standing. This can make the team think my healer joined the fight alone, thus making him an easy win, but truth be told, im lurking in the shadows :P once their melee dps engages him, I send in pets and start nuking him. Even with 2 healers they cant outheal it, but if they are able to CC 1 or more hunters I lose! So basicly I gotta be lucky on critts for the first kill, but usualy I get it my way :) after that its just tank'n'spank really. Popping deterrence, dropping a new fresh set of traps, disengage and continue killing. After the first kill my pets run around wild killing everything that hits its owner, making the opposing healer(s) job(s) a pain in the ass. Now, my favourite map is Blade's Edge map, easiest map to get a win @. I start stealthed, traps and flare up, my healer run to the bridge, waiting for them to attack first, when they engage he jumps down, making them follow him. Then he runs under the bridge making the other teams dps LOS their healer, and even with 2-3 sec without healing its almost a guaranted kill for me. Currently sitting @ 2 k resilience without the pvp trinket, BM specced and reforged to mastery :) gearing continues, and should get the 2H next wednesday! Started on a BG / arena movie to spice things up, stay tuned ppl :D

[katsurahama]

Looking forward to the video!

[Multibocks]

So how are you doing in arena's. Curious if you were able to break through and get some good wins.

[Nikita]

Ive had almost zero game time recently due to exams and work. Wow is kinda on the shelf atm, but after my last exam in mid june ill be back :)

[Shodokan]

Ive had almost zero game time recently due to exams and work. Wow is kinda on the shelf atm, but after my last exam in mid june ill be back :)

Was the same way for me till school is over... and for a week since it's been over... i think i've become re-addicted :(

[zenga]

. i think i've become re-addicted :(

to school or to wow? :d

Man been a decade since I graduated from uni (32 now), but man do I wish I was back in college. Best time of my life. Unfortunately you only realize it when it's long over.

[Shodokan]

to school or to wow? :d

Man been a decade since I graduated from uni (32 now), but man do I wish I was back in college. Best time of my life. Unfortunately you only realize it when it's long over.

to wow... school i got deans list every semester, i'm good with that shit =P

[Nikita]

Ive gotten a few mails about my hunter setup, specs, pets, tacs for arena, gear choices and so on.

So Im gonna update on my hunter thread tomorrow, ill include gear choices, speccs, arena tacs, pet choices and positioning :)

[Koralon]

Sweet!

<interested :D

[Mokoi]

also highly interested.

[Nikita]

Comp:
This composition consists of playing 4-5 hunters.


Specs:
We have 3 different to chose from as a hunter.

- Beast Mastery
This is how I specc my main.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cfhfsoGdRRoZI0M

This is my specc for my alt hunters, The reason why I spec BM is the simple reason of insane burst while in BW, and crazy pet dmg. Pre s9 my pets were critting for 15-20 k on full PvP geared toons. And exotic pets can buff your team pretty good compared to "normal" pets.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cfhfsoGdRRofM

- Pets
For a PvP group I`d go with:
Hunter 1 - Devilsaur for 5 % critt, 10 % reduced healing debuff on target
Hunter 2 - Corehound for reduced casting time on target (and Bloodlust7Heroism for PvE)
Hunter 3 - Silithid for stamina buff and web ability (same as a priest buff)
Hunter 4 - Shale Spider for kings (same as a paladin buff)
Hunter 5 - Bear for reduced physical dmg taken (if you run with 5 hunters)

- Marksmanship
I havent gotten too deep in the MM tree, but have tried it a few times. The spec does have some potential in arena. You can round robin scatter shot and silence to lock down 1 healer.
Specc for your main.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/Butterbow/talent/primary

Spec for your alts.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#Yc01!Y!ShkdjbbQhd!Pad

- Survival
*saved space for later*


Glyphs:
- Beast Mastery
Prime: Glyph of Kill Command, Glyph of Arcane Shot, Glyph of Kill Shot
Major: Glyph of Disengage, Glyph of Bestial Wrath, Glyph of Mending
Minor: Glyph of Feign Death, Glyph of Revive Pet

- Marksmanship
Prime: Glyph of Chimera Shot, Glyph of Arcane Shot, Glyph of Kill Shot
Major: Glyph of Disengage, Glyph of Masters`s Call, Glyph of Concussive Shot
Minor: Glyph of Feign Death, Glyph of Revive Pet


- Survival
*saved space for later*

DPS rotation:
- Beast Mastery
Main DPS shot for a BM hunter is Arcane Shot and Kill Command. Its important as a BM hunter to allways keep Kill Command on CD, use it everytime the CD is off.
1.
/cast Hunter's Mark
/petfollow [target=pettarget,exists]
/cast Mend Pet
/petattack [target=pettarget,noexists]

2.
Kill`O`Button
#showtooltip Bestial Wrath
/cast Call of the Wild
/cast Rabid
/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Bestial Wrath
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/use 13
/
use 14

3. Spam Arcane Shot/Kill Shot
If you run out of focus use this to regen focus. This will shoot Cobra Shot, and use Kill Command everytime its off CD.
#showtooltip Cobra Shot
/assist focus
/castsequence reset=6 Cobra Shot, Cobra Shot, Cobra Shot, Cobra Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command

If you are locked down, use this on all hunters. These abilities can hit pretty hard when 4-5 hunters are hitting you.
/assist focus
/cast Raptor Strike
/cast Wing Clip

Disengage macro:
I have this macro on my main hunter
/cast Ice Trap
/cast Disengage

On my other hunters I use this:
/cast Explosive Trap
/cast Disengage


- Marksmanship
For Marksmanship I use the same macros as in Beast Mastery spec, except my Kill`O`Button.
This uses Aimed Shot as your primary attack, with Chimera Shot closely followed.
When it comes to rotation Id start with sending pets in, pop trinkets/CDs, shoot Chimera Shot first then spam Arcane Shot. If you run out of focus, use this:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/assist focus
/castsequence reset=6 Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command


Disengage macro:
I have this macro on my main hunter
/cast Ice Trap
/cast Disengage

On my other hunters I use this:
/cast Explosive Trap
/cast Disengage

If you are locked down, use this on all hunters. These abilities can hit pretty hard when 4-5 hunters are hitting you.
/assist focus
/cast Raptor Strike
/cast Wing Clip

- Survival
*saved space for later*


Gear PvP:

- Gemming

Agility ftw! No matter what specc you are in!

- Enchanting
As a BM hunter you can mix it up. But a pure mastery build combined with mastery use trinkets would give you insane pet critts. I havent tried this one yet, but am going to try it the next two weeks. Will let you know how it went.

Strats:
- Healers
As any multiboxing comp you need a solid healer such as a priest or holy paladin. Mix it up to suit your playstyle.

- Arena
The idea of multiboxing hunters in arena is to suprise the opposing team.
Start in stealth, dont move at all, and make sure your healer is not LOSing you, or is too far away. Let them come to your healer before you use my 3 step kill recipe. Its the basic start on every map, except Dalaran Sewers. Here you cant start stealthed, would be washed out and the opposing team would know what to do (most of the times)

- BG
In BGs its crucial that you team up with a healer, especially the smaller BGs. Hunters dont have healing abilities, so a healer is a must here!

- RBG
I havent tried RBG yet on my hunters. Will be doing that in the upcoming weeks.
Id run with 4 hunters as an attack team with a personal resto druid.
Get 1 war, 1 DK, 1 mage, 1 holy pala and 1 disc priest/resto shaman to guard towers and call out incs while your team assists whoever needs some Horde/Alliance bastards killed.

If I`ve missed out on anything crucial, please let me know. And im not a grammar god, so trolls keep out!
Nikita <3

[Nikita]

Arena Update!

First week of arena, I havent done any farming of s9 gear at all. And just went 6 - 0 with a resto druid in full Bloodthirsty.

I did a few matches with a rogue, and some matches with 5 hunters.

So total stat for this week is 11 - 6 :) Pretty happy about it, considering Im not even close to s9 gear at all.

[Nikita]

Cool, if you plan to stay in the 60s, youre all set.

At 85 you will get wrecked.


Me gusta!

[cmeche]

Thanks for the tips...... I have a team I'm bringing up that is just crushing instances that are at lvl. Hunters are fun to play.

[Fat Tire]

Me gusta!

Way to quote a comment from 4.0.6 if I am not mistaken. Still success is all relative.

Luck is what happens to you when fate gets tired of waiting.

[Nikita]

Way to quote a comment from 4.0.6 if I am not mistaken. Still success is all relative.

Luck is what happens to you when fate gets tired of waiting.

Dont be a sourpuss! Im just kidding. Its just fun to proving wrong all those theory crafting champs back in the day when I started this thread :)

[Koralon]

Great idea on having 1 hunter speced into entrapment and the rest into increased pet damage, this will be the first time I've speced differently on my toons since you could go half enhancement half ele for the freeze :D, and yes I'm definitely going to have to try gearing my hunters a bit now to try your setup, atm they're just sitting at 85 with all questing gear and pvp shoulders from the honor i got while lvling lol

TY :):)

Edit: You should put your setup on the first page of this thread so ppl see it right away.

[Fat Tire]

Dont be a sourpuss! Im just kidding. Its just fun to proving wrong all those theory crafting champs back in the day when I started this thread :)

No worries.

I second what Koralon said, so people can see right away your setup and can bypass the stuff that is 4-5 months old.

[Multibocks]

I'm still waiting to ser what the celling is for this group in arenas.

[Nikita]

I'm still waiting to ser what the celling is for this group in arenas.

Im server and faction changing my hunters to humans real soon. Will gear em up, and reach the celling :)

[TeamGrizzly]

Is this team boxing 5 hunters?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/korgath/5v5/one%20against%20five/

[Ztar]

Looks like it... same guild... almost no other 85 in guild. Probably a M-B guild i say.

//Z