[WOW] - Instance power grinding with lvl 70

[arres]

I'm looking for calculations and proven information to tell me what the best level makeup is to power grind an alt.



For example.

5 slots

1. Your grinder, lvl 70

2. Your alt, lvl X

3. filler, lvl X +/- A

4. filler, lvl X +/- B

5. filler, lvl X +/- C



What A,B,C makes the most XP for your alt? I've confirmed that your alt has to be higher than everyone but your grinder, but how much higher?

Note: I have also confirmed, you get more xp for a 5-man group with the 3 fillers lower than your alt, then you do with a 4-man group with 2 fillers lower than your alt.



Thanks for your help!

[Wilbur]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mob_XP

should give you all the information you need.

[arres]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mob_XP

should give you all the information you need.

I already checked there,

It does not give you any information on grouped xp bonuses, with multi-level difference groups. It only shows 2 man groups, which does not get group bonus. This doesn't help me :(

[Jurimax]

I'd say your best bet would be to test things out a bit, I'm currently also researching into it as at the moment the 5 box is a bit out of the question, so I'll start 3 boxing (still need to pick up 3rd account though, gosh I'm lazy).

I have a lvl 70 Feral Druid, and from what I've read so far, 2 boxing instances with a lvl 70 sucks xp-wise.

Once I get my third account up and running I'll try and run some tests and come back here with more info.

[Eteocles]

70 druid + lowbie druid in stocks = poop exp
70 Druid + 34 druid + 19 druid in stocks = poopier exp
70 druid + 2 mid-30 druids in SM = awesome exp

My tests have concluded that not only having more lowbies raises exp, but the closer you are to the correct level of the instance/mobs, the better the exp will be; at 15-18ish in stocks I got shit exp and it's a 25ish instance; around 22-25 it skyrocketed. At 36-38 SM gave great exp too

[Boylston]

Yeah the lowbies vs. elite level is a huge factor.

At level 20-38, you will get about the same percentage of a level per SM:Cathedral run, but from 38-40 it tapers off dramatically. I still ran L70+3 Newbies through Cathedral until L40, but that's because they were still in cloth/leather and I had accumulated full sets of Scarlet Mail for them to wear when they hit L40 and could train it.

Definitely switch to questing L40+, in my opinion. More fun and still very efficient use of time...

[Sanctume]

I gave up researching optimum exp for lowbies.
By the time I figure out what's optimum, I could have earned 2 levels AoE grinding.

What's optimum is:
Quest without P-level until 10.
Share RFC quests, and Boost with a 70 in RFC.
Grind until 13.5, and port the lowbies to TB, and UC to turn in the shared RFC quest.

Run to SFK and Boost grind from 14 to 20.
Run to SM and Boost grind from 20 to 40; Cathedral and Armory only within 12.5 minutes. Skip Armory if you are clearing Cath at 12 minutes.

At 40, Summon to Uldaman, and Bind in Kargath.
Boost grind 40 to 55 in BRD, doing some instance quest.

55-58 can be done in BRD, or do WPL until Argent Dawn Friendly, and turn in the EPL Lights Hope Chapel quests (Bone chips, Dark iron scraps, etc).

Or 55-60 Grind some Ramparts/Blood Furnace. Great factions before doing any Hellfire Quests.

[Mith]

That strat sounds solid Sanct. Soon as i get one of my shaman xfered off my main's account i will be doing this. I'll post my findings when i do.

[arres]

I gave up researching optimum exp for lowbies.
By the time I figure out what's optimum, I could have earned 2 levels AoE grinding.

What's optimum is:
Quest without P-level until 10.
Share RFC quests, and Boost with a 70 in RFC.
Grind until 13.5, and port the lowbies to TB, and UC to turn in the shared RFC quest.

Run to SFK and Boost grind from 14 to 20.
Run to SM and Boost grind from 20 to 40; Cathedral and Armory only within 12.5 minutes. Skip Armory if you are clearing Cath at 12 minutes.

At 40, Summon to Uldaman, and Bind in Kargath.
Boost grind 40 to 55 in BRD, doing some instance quest.

55-58 can be done in BRD, or do WPL until Argent Dawn Friendly, and turn in the EPL Lights Hope Chapel quests (Bone chips, Dark iron scraps, etc).

Or 55-60 Grind some Ramparts/Blood Furnace. Great factions before doing any Hellfire Quests.

I'll modify this slightly to what I did.

Level solo from 1-20.

20-42 SM

create groups as soon as you can that have all fillers(5 man) and they all have tobe at least 1 level lower(I can't prove a specific level, but they MUST be lower)

42-46 ZF

Again create groups that have guys lower level than you.

I have yet to get past this. My pally is 47 and I'm exploring Sunken Temple currently....

The grind through SM for 20-42 was actually fast. The reasoning is simply because you just RECK it. I'm a sword spec'ed combat rogue.... I destroy each wing in under 15 mins.... I only ran lib/arm/cath

After the xp started slowing down, I found a thread on the wow forums that said to go to ZF from 42-46, and I"v done that.... now I'm exploring other options, haven't figured outwhere to go next.

[Eteocles]

I suggest Maraudon for late 40s; though I dunno if it's still that hot post-2.3 nerfs to instance lvls; others have said they started BRD in their 40s too, so give BRD a shot, it was early-mid 50s pre-2.3, it might be 50ish now

[Sanctume]

Combat Rogue in BRD can still do it, but just remember the mobs there have higher armor, they sunder, net, and disarm.

At most, 3 mob pulls. There are some 4 or 5 pull, but you can skip those. But I only grind the immediate areas for 12 minutes before resetting.

[arres]

I tried BRD last night, still decent xp. I can do the 5 pulls if I sap the paladin guy, and then bladeflurry the rest, or evasion, or AR. I need 1 cooldown or I take tons of damage(20% by the time they aredead).

So that room, I have approximately a 2 minute max between groups.... I dunno, it's just not AWESOME xp cause of their mitigation to physical damage.

As a rogue, I wouldn't mind finding somewhere that has alot of 50/50 groups(say 4, 2 casters 2 melee), cause I can drop the casters fast(increases xp) and the melee don't hit me too much(mitigation so I need less healing)....

I'm gonna have to run through BRD to see if there is something close.

[Sanctume]

Uhh, skip those Officer packs. They aren't worthy.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6693/brd01bl2.jpg ('http://imageshack.us')

This image of BRD where A = Entrance.

Just do the area 1, 12, and the hallway around 6. Reset every 12.5 minutes, and repeat.

Park your alts outside Room 12, directly south of that room, but outside of 12, and in area 1.

In Area 12, you can pull packs closer to exp range of your noobs. There are no healer mobs.

Area 1 has some Wardens that nets you, and roaming dogs that see invis--they all die fast.

The circular hallway around area 6 have packs up to 5, some mixed with fire elementals that shoot fireballs in the front arc.

[crzywolve]

hhmmm I never really thought of that lol I can clear that much with my dps war in no time. could lvl my druid that way :D

[Sanctume]

hhmmm I never really thought of that lol I can clear that much with my dps war in no time. could lvl my druid that way :DYeah, any 70 dps can do the packs no problem. Now imagine a prot paladin does those in 4 pulls. :)

The most I racked up was 75k xp/hour non-rested. The xp gain varies from 35k to 75k depending on the lowbie's level. I do slow down though for loots with some grey weapons selling for almost 2g each sometimes.

There's plenty of dogs to skill up skinning too.

[crzywolve]

Well, my druid is lvl 51 right now. That could possibly help me lvl far enough to bump into outlands. Then I could just transfer him to my 2nd acct and run him with either my war or my hunter. could be interesting. :D

[Mith]

To loot, or not to loot, that is the question. The thing that slows me down the most is taking time to loot for chance greens to level my enchanting with. Were it not for that, i'm pretty sure i could have hit 30-35k/hour last night on my shaman w/ a protadin rushing.

[Greythan]

My four man crew is level 19-20 atm.

As everyone does, I'm trying to map out the most efficient way to level them. I have a level 70 warlock as the booster. I was pretty underwhelmed with RFC at level 10'ish. I saw a post in tihs thread from Eto that indicated (anecdotally) that the closer your lowbies are to the intended level of the instance = the best exp rate. Anyone have anything to add?

My plan prior to reading this post was to get my crew to 20 and hit SM. Use my VW (or FG) to pull, and burn big groups down with SoC. However, I'm wondering if a lower instance would be better?

We really should put a definitive Wiki entry together on boosting strategies. Seems to be a pretty common question.

Thanks.

[Mosg2]

I've power leveled about 10 sets of toons from 1-60, so I feel somewhat qualified in answering the OP's questions :)

The general rules are:
1. If you're power leveling one toon, then you want yourself (70), him (whatever level), and then 2 other toons that are towards the minimum level required for the dungeon. For instance, in SM you'll want level 20's to start, and then once your power levelee hits 30 you'll want to take about level 25's, then as you hit 35 you'll want 30's etc. The lower level the other two are the more xp your power levelee gets. I've found that two others is the maximum xp possible with the group bonus plus splitting xp.

2. Always go to the new dungeon at the minimum level. It's a huge xp increase. With that in mind...

Hand grind to level 10. 10-15 you do in Wailing Caverns. 15-20 you do in Razorfen Kraul (RFK is one of the best because you can make a big circle--Go to the last boss, then jump down and kill pigs all the way to the entrance; There's no downtime where you're just running to zone), 20-35 you do in SM Cath, 35-45 you do in Zul'Farrak, 45-55 Scholo or LBRS or BRD depending on what your power leveler and power levelee classes are. Also, at 45 you can take a full group and you won't lose any xp. 55-60 you can do easy peasy in Ramparts. 55-60 took me less time than 50-55 took easily.

I use a Warlock to get'em to 45 and then my Warrior from 45-60. Up until BRD/Scholo/LBRS you don't really need heals as a Warlock that much. At that point, snag 3 healers plus your power levelee and go to LBRS (My favorite). The mobs do decent damage so you're getting a crapload of rage. You can just burn down everything, plus you're getting LBS's the whole way through.

[ejay33]

I am currently boosting my 4 shaman with my level 70 mage in BRD. My shaman are 52 and I am planning on staying there til 55. I pretty much kill with my mage and heal him with my shaman throwing in chain lightning here and there. My mage has 9600 hps and pretty good gear. Do you guys think it would be possible to do this same method in ramps after my shaman hit 55? or would my mage get killed way too fast for my shaman to heal?

[koen]

Hi,

Im doing this atm,

LV 70 Prot warrior (i guess i could go fury, but im a cheap skate)

Lv 39 Druid.

I do ZF and Mara


Mara is a bit of a bitch, its very big and mobs are spread out. takes UPTO 2 hrs to complete.

ZF is nice n easy. can be done in 45 mins.

What iv done is pimped out my druid with +healing gear, I pull HUGE groups of mobs, Devastate + Wirlwind em down, Druid heals when needed.

BTW if your Powelevelee is at lv 30, take him to this locatin is STV

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9118/stvbm1.jpg



Pull EVERYTHING nuke em down, your pwerlevelee should ding VERY quickly.

PS: I have a Video of me doing (My druids Dings 39 in the video :P )this but its 1gb (Fraps Sucks) and i dont have any other way of reducing the size, windows movie maker crashes when i try and load it up. :( Any suggestions?