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Mith
02-04-2008, 02:05 PM
Just wondering if any of you 4sham+Protadin teams would consider taking a crack at this. How crazy would it be to have ony on farm status all by your lonesome =P. Totally not worth it for gold/loot, but bragging rights?

Boylston
02-04-2008, 02:14 PM
It might be fun except for the keying process is sooooo painful for Onyxia.

Vyndree
02-04-2008, 02:23 PM
I'm at the UBRS part of Ony attunement. Did it while farming BRD in my late 50's. Good XP.

elo
02-04-2008, 02:30 PM
Not too long ago I tried to help out some guild buddies and take Ony with 8 ppl, I was playing 3 of them. Admitedly I wasn't setup for it and was doing the warrior/priest/mage which is even more difficult, but it didn't go well. Why didn't it go well? Because a Warlock decided he was going to tank Ony instead of letting the real tank (not me) do her job. Naturally chaos insued and as you all know, unless you have a lot of practice with your setup trying to recover from unplanned encounters is just not going to happen. So after the wipe the blame started, and guess who caught it? Yeah, me. It wasn't the lock's fault, it wasn't the other 4 people who had a whole lot less to deal with, it was mine because it was multi-boxing.

I say all that to say this. I WILL be 5 manning Ony with my Pally and 4 Shaman, I will win, and I will post the screenshot on my guild's website.

aetherg
02-04-2008, 02:30 PM
Actually, Ony drops 150-200g, some gems, and some higher-level blues. It's probably not worth the risk compared to dailies (especially considering how long it takes to kill her with only a few DPS), but it's not altogether worthless. It's the first thing I'm planning to try once my tank is more uncrushable, but I'm pretty sure someone will beat me to it. It was done with less than five players even at lvl 60, so I think it's just a matter of someone taking some wipes to learn the multibox version of the strat.

Sanctume
02-04-2008, 02:52 PM
I've rather have Razorgore on "farm" (first boss in BWL) for the "epic" class trinket he drops.

I have no idea how one would 5 box that chaotic fight though, mainly due to the number of elite mobs (40) you have to deal with + mind controlling ravorgore at the same time. :wacko:

The 2nd boss in BWL should also be easier.
Actually Razorgore is easier than Onyxia. One Single Prot Paladin can tank the entire adds.


But yeah, you might have a hard time doing the Mind Control to break all the eggs. So practice pure 2-box controlling 2 computers at the same time from 2 different keyboards/mouse.

Stabface
02-04-2008, 03:23 PM
I disagree that Razorgore is easier. Onyxia was 3-manned pre-TBC (http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=34385)
and 2-manned since then by several class combos (paladin/warlock paladin/druid warrior/priest, others I am sure). Best I've seen on Razorgore is 5-man and that is at L70.

Hardest part of Onyxia is getting the key and killing the trash.

caldvn
02-04-2008, 03:41 PM
You'll run out of mana if your group is mana based. i tried 5 man, mages ran out of mana. You need hunters to dps the wench out of the air. At least if you plan on soloing.

Los
02-04-2008, 04:34 PM
still if you get a bit geared, loads of gold, 18 slotter, and a lot of fun every 3 days or so?

thinus
02-04-2008, 06:02 PM
You'll run out of mana if your group is mana based. i tried 5 man, mages ran out of mana. You need hunters to dps the wench out of the air. At least if you plan on soloing.

Silly mages... take Shaman instead. Way better mana efficency. Although mages could just wand forever...

Frost + evocate + mana gems + pots? If a frost mage runs OOM in less than 10 minutes using a mana gem (and maybe a mana pot) then you probably have gear issues.

Mith
02-04-2008, 06:06 PM
@ Elo, make it happen!

if i had the resources (read $$) i'd already be working my way towards farming ony. I currently have a nicely geared protadin laying in wait for my shaman team to level up. perhaps i'd level another shaman solo or just toss my Spriest in the mix w/ them for even greater zomgmanabattery effect. Sadly, due to the complexity of the events i don't see multiboxers downing anything past ony/MC. I'd go back and farm those instances if the mobs dropped about 90x the gold they currently do. alas /sigh for blizz outdating their content. Either way, i'm excited to see what the more advanced members of the community are capable of.



~mith

Sanctume
02-04-2008, 06:19 PM
You know that melee can still hit Ony in Stage 2?

4 Warlocks with well timed Doom

thinus
02-04-2008, 06:28 PM
I will be 5-boxing Ony, it is just a matter of time. The very first thing on my TO DO list when I started 5-boxing was Ony :)

Dor
02-04-2008, 11:19 PM
anyone have a video of the razorgore fight being 5 manned? that might be fun to try.

Stabface
02-05-2008, 03:32 AM
it's on warcraftmovies.com should be easy to find

Emo?
02-05-2008, 03:44 AM
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=47375

There u have the Razorgore fight by 5 players :)

Los
02-05-2008, 05:20 AM
sweet, certainly will take a look at that one :D

Vinaya
02-05-2008, 05:49 AM
..and 3 manned MC

http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/6454495.html

...and 3 manned razorgore

http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/6458389.html

..and on my server azuregos was 3manned pre-tbc by 3 alliance raiders, took about around 1 hour...They planed to do 2 man but they calculated it would have taken around 3 hours... :(

Notes
02-05-2008, 06:57 AM
3 man MC .. WTF oO .... I remember going there for the first time at level 60, only to find us wiping at the first 2 giants for 20 minutes ..

Respect for those guys... Too bad I can't get to the same gear they are wearing wich might just be the clue for their succes...

Good thing for us boxers: At lvl 80 it will be easier (Allthough I'm 100% sure some folks on this forum can do it if they wanted too :thumbsup: ... or already did maybe ?)

zanthor
02-05-2008, 08:25 AM
I love how "hard" it is to Key for onyxia...

Team Doublemint was keyed for Onyxia by the time they hit 60th... the questline is trivial, drops lots of good rewards, and has a very solid XP Curve... it does include a lot of running around on the horde side, but honestly if you consider it hard, you're lazy. Time consuming I'd give you... certainly not hard.

thinus
02-05-2008, 10:16 AM
I love how "hard" it is to Key for onyxia...

Team Doublemint was keyed for Onyxia by the time they hit 60th... the questline is trivial, drops lots of good rewards, and has a very solid XP Curve... it does include a lot of running around on the horde side, but honestly if you consider it hard, you're lazy. Time consuming I'd give you... certainly not hard.

5-boxing UBRS is probably not going to happen at 60.

Monkofdoom
02-05-2008, 11:55 AM
The trick to what we can 5box (or even 3 box) really depends on your class, ability control and the targets abilities.

Onyxia is a fairly straight forward fight and given a bit of practice and maybe gear any combo with a healer and tank should be able to take it at 70. The hardest part is the whelps and shouldn't be to much of a problem.

A fair bit of MC would be a joke and BWL I believe is doable if you have real multi character control, otherwise take a second player with you (probably a healer) to do the MC'ing and general helping out. AQ40 I think some would be doable - The later stuff a problem and Naxx well I've not done it enough at 70 to know how it is now.

Places like ZG / AQ20 I was 8 manning (8 seperate players) pre-tbc and really not finding it difficult, we ranged from tier 2 - tier 3 - As such 5 manning these should be simple. The problem again is when you have complicated fights (alot going on and mutli target dps), however anyone who is experienced in multi character control shouldn't find them difficult.

Personally Onyxia I see as the easiest kill and it's just a case of time, from that the other 40 mans will slowly be cleared and the 20 mans are a joke (possibly the end bosses being a pain based on how you have to kill them - Again not tried in tbc so no idea what they are like now).

Notes
02-05-2008, 12:02 PM
Leave BWL out of it tbh after the first boss, you can't 5 box Vael. You just won't have the DPS. He's been 10 manned though by lvl 70 very well geared, so 2 groups should do 8o

On the good side: spreading won't be a real problem now so no people blowing others to death :P

aetherg
02-05-2008, 01:31 PM
The hard part is that some fights do require multiple tanks. For example, Kurinnaxx (first boss in AQ20) puts a debuff on the tank that reduces healing by 10% and stacks quickly. Even at level 70, I don't feel like 5 people have the DPS to kill him before those stacks get too high.

A group of 2 5-boxers (like Vyndree/Suvega's team) I think have an excellent chance of killing most of the old-world bosses, but I think there will always be some off-limits just due to the requirements of the strat.

Nepida
02-05-2008, 03:03 PM
The hard part is that some fights do require multiple tanks. For example, Kurinnaxx (first boss in AQ20) puts a debuff on the tank that reduces healing by 10% and stacks quickly. Even at level 70, I don't feel like 5 people have the DPS to kill him before those stacks get too high.



5 people may be pushing it but you would be surprised how much higher DPS is now than at 60. The bigger problem with Kurinnaxx is threat, because the Sand stuff silences and increases chance to miss, a pally tank who isn't moving around good enough will have hardly any threat.

skarlot
02-07-2008, 09:43 AM
I always intended to 5 box Ony too. Well tonight I got her to around 68%. Phase 2 starts to become difficult with fireballs and whelps. Fire resist might be key here but I havnt invested yet. Will anyone succeed... *da da dum*....

Skuggomann
02-07-2008, 10:10 AM
Thou it might be possible to 5 box id rather take some guildees with me jsut for the company, more dps and the funn of it XD

Mith
02-07-2008, 02:20 PM
not gonna lie, i really miss the days when we were whooping ass on skull level dragons instead of weaksauce UD's and fairyboy bloodelves :/

rand
02-07-2008, 10:59 PM
I'm at the UBRS part of Ony attunement. Did it while farming BRD in my late 50's. Good XP.Aye, completed the horde ony quest at 70 in a few hours with a friend (great pali), wasn't too bad (was mage). got groups for ubrs to speed things up tho.

alliance was a bit more of a pain, jailbreak ... hehe.

As for the money, it's about 30g for a quick half hour run, can't complain about that. and nexus for enchanting.

rand
02-07-2008, 11:00 PM
Azergos (world dragon) was solo'd by a hunter before they nerf'd +healing stacking up on mend pet. :)

Took him like 3 hours I think though.one and a half i believe =)

Majo
06-12-2008, 02:49 AM
I've been tossing around the idea of 5-boxing Onyxia on my shamans. Yanamana and I have just about finished all the UBRS runs I've needed to complete the questline - just 1 more General Drekk kill to go.

I'll probably focus on dinging 70, then go attempt it. I'll let you all know how it goes, as I'm definitely going to be attempting it and recording the fight to post (assuming i don't suffer an embarassing loss =P).

On a side-note, Onyxia has now been solo'd by a dreamstate resto druid. No bear tanking or anything, just straight moonfire, insect swarm, and incredible healing and mp5.
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=76343
Note: Interestingly the guy playing this druid, Serennia, was also the top rated arena player in the world on his warrior last season, alongside his druid healer partner. Talented individual.

I don't have a link, but I heard a prot paladin solo'd it recently as well. He claims first to solo onyxia because the resto druid had a hunter wait by in case the trash mob respawned and pulled, which it did. I'd still count it as a solo.

Nitro
06-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Not too long ago I tried to help out some guild buddies and take Ony with 8 ppl, I was playing 3 of them. Admitedly I wasn't setup for it and was doing the warrior/priest/mage which is even more difficult, but it didn't go well. Why didn't it go well? Because a Warlock decided he was going to tank Ony instead of letting the real tank (not me) do her job. Naturally chaos insued and as you all know, unless you have a lot of practice with your setup trying to recover from unplanned encounters is just not going to happen. So after the wipe the blame started, and guess who caught it? Yeah, me. It wasn't the lock's fault, it wasn't the other 4 people who had a whole lot less to deal with, it was mine because it was multi-boxing.

I say all that to say this. I WILL be 5 manning Ony with my Pally and 4 Shaman, I will win, and I will post the screenshot on my guild's website.

I get this alot, I have an 85%+ win ratio in leading AV now but if we lose it's always "that multiboxing noob's" fault.

Talamarr
06-12-2008, 03:03 PM
Ony was soloed by both a Druid and a Paladin. I think the Paladin attempt took 2 or 3 hours.

There are videos somewhere (google search should bring it up).

Talamarr
06-12-2008, 03:30 PM
Druid soloing Ony
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=76343

Paladin sologing Ony
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/05/30/paladin-lays-the-solo-smackdown-on-onyxia/