View Full Version : Looking for Arena results for non Shamans
Ellay
02-04-2008, 01:48 PM
I know we have a lot more Multi-boxers out here who love to PvP and are not Shamans ~
Was hoping to find out your results in Arenas. Hunters / Warlocks / Priests should definitely be viable - stories or your records would be good :) Let's hear em'!
Morganti
02-06-2008, 11:10 AM
5 Undead Shadow Priests (also tried them as 3 disc/holy, 2holy/disc). Woefully undergeared, but I managed to win a few arena games usually via the "shock and awe" strat. Charge in guns blazing and try to drop their healers fast then deal with the dps. Priests are very squishy and dropped very quickly once their dps picked a target. Frost Nova, improved blizzard, and shadow/magic resistant folks are your biggest problems. CLoS rogues who were geared hurt me bad. Ithink my arena ecord with them thus far is like 6-45. Granted, for 80% of those games I played all 5 myself. I played 6 or so games with a pally, but I never won any of those games.
BG's are friendlier due to the lack of healing, and fear bombs on flags/bosses is great stuff, but getting those elite mobs on you (especially fear bombing the aid station flag) means you are most likely dead. DoT's are too expensive mana-wise, but are great in BG's like AV where guys just run by you. BG's like AB are a bit rougher since you have to focus on holding the flag and that leaves you more stationary than you'd like to be with 5 clothies who can fight on the run. EOTS (the best multiboxer BG IMO) will work great for any boxer, but it leaves more room for movement for the boxing priest and is far superior to AB for honor. My record in EOTS is around 35-4.
In the end, I wanted to be more successful in arena to be able to gear up faster, so I rolled a shammy group, but with a twist (I have them led by a Panzerkin druid for instances and leveling...not gonna use the druid in arena).
Slats
02-06-2008, 01:14 PM
Gonna have to say its a negative here too on Priests. All my 70 experience is from PTR. My 'live' priests are only 60. Here is the reason why Shamans work so well, if you get charged by melee, you drop 4 or 5x Fire Nova. That will kill or almost kill just about anyone. Its hard to 'rush' a Shaman team. If you stay at range you can also aoe to an extent - so you are deadly on all fronts.
Priests biggest letdown is SW Pain costs retarded and I mean RETARDED amounts of mana. Your spammable channeled nuke has a 24 yard range with talents. Mind Blast has a cooldown, SW Death has a very big cooldown. And you are sooooooo squishy. Also PbAOE fears are hard to do as the range is so tight.
I'm also continuing one with my Shaman team, the team I intended to play before even finding this site and seeing one of Xbox's videos. Wasted a fair few months - but I have a 60 Pally and I love Pally tanks so I will finish him. Have a 70 Shaman waiting for the other four to catch up.
I think Mages are viable - pure frost ones - for massive shatter combos mainly - but you would have to be fucking awesome and probably only play 4 of them and have a druid healer with cyclone.
4x Hunters maybe as well, but also extremely complicated.
Looking for another class to focus your attention on Ellay? :D
=Slats
Ellay
02-06-2008, 01:21 PM
I am looking to roll another group, to add to the excitement :)
Hunters / Warlocks though should be insanely potent, and still interested to hear how Druids work out - due to being able to dictate the fight via stealth and elemental of surprise.
Morganti
02-06-2008, 01:26 PM
I've fought a priest/4 lock group in arena from my server and lost to him, but to be fair he said he wasn't winning much in arena and has since rolled other groups. Locks suffer from the slow killing syndrome priests do if you spec them the "normal" pvp build. The pets were annoying, but not game ending. SoC is super nasty in BG's from what I've heard, but there's nothing that makes me want to run out and roll a lock group.
Disc Priest + 4 UA locks seems like it would be very effective with 4x instant howl of terrors, psychic scream, 4x death coils, undispellable DOTs (due to UA), 4x overpowered felpuppies vs casters, 4x drain life, healthstones, pain suppression, etc. If Nightfall were to proc at the same time... o.O
Skuggomann
02-06-2008, 02:07 PM
I think 4x Sl/Sl locks = mega ownage non squiche fearing WOtF spamming owners XD
or full demo, id like to see 4x Felguards XD
Zseth
02-06-2008, 02:40 PM
I know we have a lot more Multi-boxers out here who love to PvP and are not Shamans ~
Was hoping to find out your results in Arenas. Hunters / Warlocks / Priests should definitely be viable - stories or your records would be good :) Let's hear em'!Just so that you know Ellay, I take offense to this, my priest/mage combo rocks in BG's. Arena's, not so much, but I'm working on getting Season 3 gear on my guys and then trying to rock it out.
Ellay
02-06-2008, 03:07 PM
Aww Zseth I didn't mean it like that :)
I've done Mages myself and I know they work, I don't have any experience with the ones I listed though.
I'd like to hear how you do in Arenas though, what is the pro's and con's.
I have three locks I do arenas with. About a 1450 rating, I lose just a bit more than I win. The two main problems are I don't have the gear for the extra hard to kill SL/SL build (yet) and I don't really have any burst damage. A ton of dots are cool, but it's a lot of very steady damage that's easier for them to deal with, especially if they have a quick dispeller. Even with AOE fears and multiple deathcoils. I think I'm going to try go for a UA/Shadowburn build, to help minimize dispells and give me the extra burst damage I'm looking for. But that will make me even more vulnerable to the quick focus fire kill that's my main weakpoint so far. But I'll keep you updated if I manage to improve at all.
20% win ratio on my 5box mage/priest team. I believe this could be better with a live healer & better gear.
Im currently gearing up my 3x mages combo, only got 144 res and 650 spelldmg. For arena i find it hard ofc sins everyone ussualy have at LEAST full gladiator and abouve 250+ res. But i manage to winn games time to time, im pompyro (40/21/0) wich i find as the best specc for playing mages. I tryed frost for about 12 hours pvp + arena, but i didnt like it, its Really hard to use all Cooldowns and get propert shattercombos with 3. Well i gues its worth trying again sometime but i enjoy more to one-shot people =) it ussualy gets 3v2, then i sheep one and its 3v1 =).
In the BG its ussualy loleasy or lolhard, ither i meet 1 or i meet 10+. Still trying to defend GY's in AV to get like 3v4-5 situations but its really rare (reccing for my movie ^^).
But i will try serious with arena as soon as i get some propert gear. Untill then im happy if i can stay around 1500 rating xD.
Lokked
04-10-2008, 04:04 AM
For those with Warlocks, is SoC + UA not viable?
I would think that SoC would annihilate the groups that bunch up, but fail miserably vs a coordinated group that spread out. Might be worth a shot. I've started to level a Priest + 4 warlocks group when I get burnt out from grinding Honor with my Shaman.
Yanamana
04-10-2008, 05:34 AM
Boomkins are ftw. stealth, and a tree army at your command. ( will be my next set of chars I play with personally)
That tree army requires u to place the trees on each window = to much time to be worth speccing it imo, Natures swiftness would be beter i think
Šeceased
04-10-2008, 06:04 AM
personally I rly want to try some destro locks for the whole SoC + Shadowfury combo on melee :P if you have it all on round robin.. so your first guy casts shadowfury whilst the others cast SOC or something and then the next one does a shadowfury..... WTFBOOOOOOOOMM!!! :P
and lets not forget the insane Immo + Conf + Shadowburn
Shadow and fire immunity going off every few seconds making fire mages and other locks nigh useless against you..
set it up so you can chain seduce the other team (focus for each lock)
It woul be hard.. there's no doubt about that.. but omg the feeling when pulling off those combos :P
Šeceased
04-10-2008, 06:05 AM
That tree army requires u to place the trees on each window = to much time to be worth speccing it imo, Natures swiftness would be beter i think
not with the map ping thing :) could have them all place them in a circle around you so you are protected from all sides :P
Lefrog
04-10-2008, 06:23 AM
I think i 4x or 5x rogue team would be pretty neat for those who like to MB melee classes. I'm pretty sure if you can get the LOS issues down you could stunlock/interrupt a player down in a few seconds. Also might be possible to 1 shot clothies.
Šeceased
04-10-2008, 06:30 AM
I think i 4x or 5x rogue team would be pretty neat for those who like to MB melee classes. I'm pretty sure if you can get the LOS issues down you could stunlock/interrupt a player down in a few seconds. Also might be possible to 1 shot clothies.
been thinking about it like this.. kill one vanish and immediately shadowstep behind some guy who's running to where you were.. that way you escape possible AoE detection.. wait a little while for some cooldowns and repeat :P
slow matches but if you get good at it you may win quite a few :)
Tizer
04-10-2008, 08:23 AM
Christ, nothing on earth would make me MB melee classes :)
Havelcek
04-10-2008, 09:01 AM
You need big booms and stuns....POM/Pyro mages, frost mages, destro locks.
Silly Gooooose
04-10-2008, 09:11 AM
I am looking to roll another group, to add to the excitement :)
Hunters / Warlocks though should be insanely potent, and still interested to hear how Druids work out - due to being able to dictate the fight via stealth and elemental of surprise.
Can't you give it a test on the PTR? Though I guess maybe it's down atm? What about testing your stuff on a private server? (private server talk a no-no?)
cepheus
04-10-2008, 09:32 AM
I have a group of 1 disc priest + 4x 7/43/11 specced locks (lifetap/felguard/shadowburn) with full gladiator/vindicator
I have tried many different specs both on my priest and locks, but I found this to be the best combination when you get a bit geared. (holy/affliction might be better when you havent geared up yet)
This combination works very well in most bg's (still havent found any good tactics in WSG yet though)
In Arena I play 4 locks together with another healer. In the start I was affliction specced and it did not work too well. I won some and lost most. Was about 1350 rating. Last three weeks I've done arena as demo. This works a bit better and my rating was beginning to rise again. This week I did arena together with a resto-shaman, I think this might be my best bet. 4xbloodlusted shadowbolts+4xshadowburn while felguards chew up their clothies have potential. For the first time I won as much as I lost (6-6)
SoC works sometimes in arena, but I found that most of the time it does not work very well since people tend to dispell/spread out
With a bit more practice I think this is a combination that might work fairly well for arena, but I hightly doubt it will be as good as elemental shamans since they have insanely good stacking group buffing. However I think in worldpvp/bg the priest/4lock setup might be better than shamans due to good mobility, but then again I have no real highlevel expirience with multiboxing shamans (but working on levling a group to test it out)
Kaynin
04-10-2008, 09:37 AM
5x mages.
5x POM pyro should instakill -anyone- really.
5x Ice Block (This should give you a lot of time to kill people. If you get the positioning down, you don't even need a healer vs most teams.)
5x Blink (This opens up some very cool positioning tactics if used well.)
5x sheep, altho it would be bad to try and sheep at the start of a fight, really, you need to down people quickly so that is prio. But once you kill one or two, sheeping will become interesting.
4x mages and healer could work too ofcourse, possibly better, but I think as far as a 5x combo, mages are probably even better then 5x elemental shaman. Though elemental shaman have some back up healing, mages have better survivability and equal if not more dps.
Not been anything at level 70 yet with boxing, and it's that I genuinly don't like playing the mage class, but this would have been my second option. :p
cepheus
04-10-2008, 09:52 AM
I do not mean to completly throw your idea away, But I highly doubt the 5x mages would work very well against an organized group. There is a lot of multibox ideas that sounds good in theory (this beeing one of them) But my experience in arena is that there will be a lot of things that will destroy your original plans.
The number one issue in arena as a multiboxer is surviving long enough. And I doubt 5x mages will survive very long without intense micromanagement at each one of them (allthough I have very little mage expirience)
Skuggomann
04-10-2008, 10:35 AM
I think 4 mages and then a fifth mage controlled by anot er dud on vent wud be op. 4x icelance is nice wen you can have the other mage just set them upp for you.
Lefrog
04-10-2008, 12:29 PM
been thinking about it like this.. kill one vanish and immediately shadowstep behind some guy who's running to where you were.. that way you escape possible AoE detection.. wait a little while for some cooldowns and repeat :P
slow matches but if you get good at it you may win quite a few :)Or kill one, vanish and shadowstep to the farthest guy out and kill him..ppl will be like wtf while you sprint away and stealth again =P So many possibilites, if only i had time to box all the classes to 70 lol
Ellay
04-10-2008, 12:30 PM
This is definitely a thread revival :) I think after about a month or so it seems we have quite a few more Dual-boxers entering the Arenas~ the 4x Felguard/Shadowburn setup sounds awesome, with good mobility.
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