Hi-Sec mining & ISK

[Grondir]

Hey guys,

Just a quick question. Is it possible to make enough ISK a month from 6 Hulks & 2 Orca's (2 seperate mining fleets in Hi-Sec) to cover the cost of PLEX's for 10 accounts?

It's cheaper for me to buy a copy of the game for £10 & reffering a new acc, than paying the £13 a month subscription fee.

Was just wondering if Hi-Sec mining is viable?

[Redbeard]

Honestly, I dont think youll find the roids have enough yield up there to support that much mining. Its one of the reasons im transitioning over to missions.

[Souca]

Honestly, I dont think youll find the roids have enough yield up there to support that much mining. Its one of the reasons im transitioning over to missions.

I agree with Redbeard. Though some hidden belts that are part of missions are well stocked.

- Souca -

[Grondir]

My thoughts too, asteroid belts don't seem to last an hour with 4 rerievers going at them...

If that's the case then, is there a way to make low-sec mining a little less dangerous? Should I disband my Corp and join another that could offer me some protection? Or should I go with 6 Hulks, 1 Orca and 3 droid defence ships to offer protection?

It's a shame that Eve is so geared to PvP. I JUST WANT TO MINE, STOP SHOOTING ME :)

[Redbeard]

To answer more completely in case anybody new to eve is wondering... I dont know exactly how this works but anecdotally, the closer you get to 0.0, the more ore the roids have.

Correct me if im wrong anybody.

[Souca]

Once again, you are correct. The lower the security, the better the roids. In fact, not all 0.0 are the same. They actually have a hidden sec status that will go negative to -1. So a belt in a -0.3 system will be better than a belt in a -0.1 system.

The Ombey flat maps show the real sec status of the systems.

- Souca -

[Meeo]

Once again, you are correct. The lower the security, the better the roids. In fact, not all 0.0 are the same. They actually have a hidden sec status that will go negative to -1. So a belt in a -0.3 system will be better than a belt in a -0.1 system.

The Ombey flat maps show the real sec status of the systems.

- Souca -


Another good site to use is http://evemaps.dotlan.net it will show true-sec + it will classify each system, there is an alpha-numerical value put on all, if not, most system that shows the roid types in that system.

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In regards to highsec mining being viable to pay for 10 plexes. If you are mining 23/5 (maybe 6) you might be able to make enough to pay for 10, it really depends on density really. If you were always able to find a hidden highsec belt, those generally will tend to have a decent amount of ore to sell. I have not ran the numbers, but i guess i could sit down and really determine if its possible or not with all the freaking spreadsheets i have for the game.

[Grondir]

Cheers guys.

10 accounts is probably overkill, maybe I should stick with 6. 1 Orca, 4 Hulks and a business/hauler/defender toon.... This may be a more viable solution and could give me a chance to explore the trading side of the game too

Now the problem is, I really need to get a clue about this trading lark

[Meeo]

i run 8 Toons total when playing.

depending on what i do they do various different roles.

Primarily for mining i run, 1 scout, 1 carrier (when in 0.0/or domi drone boat in highsec) for defense, then i run 1 Rorqual (or Orca depending on where i am with max boosting + Implant), then i have 5 Hulk miners.

I've been out in 0.0 so long, and i kind of miss high-sec to a degree, so i think its time i return to either my own corp/newbie corp/high-sec and have some other kind of fun

for Highsec mining i may turn the scout and defense guy into another miner, but im not siure i want to move them away from their current training timeline.


I also am getting into trading, i've found some pretty good methods to buy up ore and what not in highsec for cheap and then sell at market cost, its slowly builds up money, but once i get more skill points on my 2 trader characters who are training for it, i think i can do some money generating due to being able to use several freighters to move gear around.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I agree with Redbeard. Though some hidden belts that are part of missions are well stocked.

- Souca -

This is basically what I'm setting up for. Run missions until I hit one with a bunch of rocks, then mine it out and move on to the next missions.

[RobinGBrown]

Cheers guys.

10 accounts is probably overkill, maybe I should stick with 6. 1 Orca, 4 Hulks and a business/hauler/defender toon.... This may be a more viable solution and could give me a chance to explore the trading side of the game too

Now the problem is, I really need to get a clue about this trading lark

I run 6 accounts mining in hisec semi-afk while I work (8-10 hours per day). Ice is easy to do without paying much attention as the cycle times are so long. I don't keep close track but I probably earn enough for 3-4 PLEX per month so that either cuts down heavily on the subscription cost or lets me buy some more spaceships to add to my collection.

[Grondir]

Thought about mining ice, seems like it would be 'less' managment than mining ore. May give it a go but not even sure how much ISK I make from mining as I haven't refined anything yet until I get more refining skills. Only need the next 3 weeks to go by fast so I can get into my hulks :)

[Meeo]

Thought about mining ice, seems like it would be 'less' managment than mining ore. May give it a go but not even sure how much ISK I make from mining as I haven't refined anything yet until I get more refining skills. Only need the next 3 weeks to go by fast so I can get into my hulks :)

If you need some help refining before the 3 weeks is up, just let me know here, or in-game. I can meet you at some place in caldari, and refine it for you i get 100% refine out there. My accounts are going inactive in about 15 days so i can play some Rift for a little bit.

[RobinGBrown]

I've only recently noticed that ice is worth substantially different amounts depending on where you mine - worth doing a price check before settling down. Tash-Murkon it's about 70K but near Jita I'm getting 100K per cube

[Grondir]

What Ice are u mining Robin? I started on White Glaze in Caldari space, but at 100k per cube I'll come mine what you are :)

[Grondir]

Just found out that White Glaze sells for 100k a block too, so I can stay put for now :)

[RobinGBrown]

Jep it's white glaze near Jita, fairly profitable, seems like prices for minerals are creeping up at the moment - probably people worrying about Hulkageddon. As they're targetting all industrial ships, including freighters and haulers, this time I think everyone will be stocking up.

Edit: Hulkageddon IV. It starts on Saturday, I'll be offline for the next week even though the risk is fairly small. Going to stop at downtime tomorrow to avoid the early starters. Can't do missions the way I play so just going to dock up and train some slow skills. Although I did consider swtiching one of my guys into a RR battlecruiser with defensive gang links and attempting to tough it out. After all the actual chance of getting ganked if you fit a tank and have some backup is much lower than if you just sit there AFK without even basic defense? Or not...

Edit: Grrr... As I was typing the above someone ganked one of my miners. Talk about jumping the gun!

[Meeo]

Edit: Grrr... As I was typing the above someone ganked one of my miners. Talk about jumping the gun!

How are your barges/exhumers fitted?

my Hulks can usually take 1 hit from a alpha tempest/maelstrom, sometimes maybe few if i have the boosters going, and am switch enough to get some speed going.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

How fast does CONCORD show up when this happens? Fast enough to prevent more than one alpha strike?

[Meeo]

How fast does CONCORD show up when this happens? Fast enough to prevent more than one alpha strike?

an Alpha BS can last a few seconds against Concord, enough to toast most semi tanked Exhumers.

[RobinGBrown]

Only one invuln field and some rechargers - was on my least skilled character.

Must look into a cost effective tank for my miners, been leaving them with simple invuln fields and rechargers, must skill them up a bit to fit a better tank.