Bastion of Twilight BOE Epic Farm Strat

[pinotnoir]

If you have a 5 man PVE Group and enough gear you can farm some epics in Bastion of Twilight.
There was a video of 5 mages farming it so I made one with a 5 man PVE Group.
The upgrades are nice, plus you can earn some good money in the process.


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[Mercurio]

Ubersauces :)

[BrothelMeister]

Idk, I took my 4 Ret + DK team in with 5 Guildies, and just roll main spec, with everythign else open roll. The last 2 pulls are amazing since there are so many adds.

DK+ 4 Rets have all the CC under control, and basically as you get further, the trash gets better and better (easier to AOE)
So 10 people will get everyone more epics per hour.

[ghonosyph]

I've been pondering if this would be possible with my 4 dk 1holy pally team :) think maybe it could be pulled off with round robin warstomps + hungering colds?

[Multibocks]

Interesting, never thought of exiting to reset the group.

[beeq]

Interesting, never thought of exiting to reset the group.

if you choose a pack of twilight phase-twisters, then kill all but one, and then drop combat (I do 5x invisibility on my mages) so you can loot the dead ones, last mob runs back and they all reset :P

[pinotnoir]

I sure hope our farming videos didn't get this nerfed. I have been in there for 2hrs and not one epic. I still need the staff for my priest!

[zenga]

In the first weeks there were a shitload of epics dropping, heard up to 6 on one clear. Afterwards (like as of january, maybe earlier) we've had bugs where we had to reset the trash 3x before we could engage halfus, and had zero drops. This weeks lockout we had on 25m mode 3 drops from 2 packs, and the week before nada. Pure rng imo.

Oh and about the video, thanks for sharing. Just an advice for other less geared boxers: the purple goo on the floor is not meant to stand in :P

[Toned]

Why not clear up to halfus and get more $$

[pinotnoir]

Why not clear up to halfus and get more $$

Because my group is not good enough to do that. I only have two reliable CC's so doing 5+ packs are not an option. If my team was a tank and 4 shaman I could do that. But I only have 1 hex and 1 sheep to work with.

[Toned]

Because my group is not good enough to do that. I only have two reliable CC's so doing 5+ packs are not an option. If my team was a tank and 4 shaman I could do that. But I only have 1 hex and 1 sheep to work with.

Isn't your other toon a lock? Fear glyph + seduce?

[pinotnoir]

Isn't your other toon a lock? Fear glyph + seduce?

Yeah but the fear and seduce are not as reliable as sheep or hex. They break earlier than my sheep or hex. I tried it :(

[Toned]

Pfft you can do it ><

[Mercurio]

I 10-box this place and certainly have more than enough CC to do the whole area up to the first boss.

What I've found - not worth it. It is so unbelievably fast to kill 3 out of the first four, exit, and re-enter. Never wipe, never lose a toon, never wait for pathing groups that are too close to each other. I've done it both ways plenty of times and I have to side with Pinot.

[Toned]

I 10-box this place and certainly have more than enough CC to do the whole area up to the first boss.

What I've found - not worth it. It is so unbelievably fast to kill 3 out of the first four, exit, and re-enter. Never wipe, never lose a toon, never wait for pathing groups that are too close to each other. I've done it both ways plenty of times and I have to side with Pinot.

Doesn't boredom set in faster just doing the first pack? I mean the process either way gets boring after a few runs, but doing the whole clear gives you some variation.

[pinotnoir]

Doesn't boredom set in faster just doing the first pack? I mean the process either way gets boring after a few runs, but doing the whole clear gives you some variation.


It's totally boring. I have not had an epic drop in 3hrs of my last farming efforts. Thats why I think I have been nerfed on drops. I may try again one more time. If nothing drops out of there again I am done.

[beeq]

I 10-box this place and certainly have more than enough CC to do the whole area up to the first boss.

What I've found - not worth it. It is so unbelievably fast to kill 3 out of the first four, exit, and re-enter. Never wipe, never lose a toon, never wait for pathing groups that are too close to each other. I've done it both ways plenty of times and I have to side with Pinot.

I'm starting to be very fast at this, each 50 mobs takes 30 minutes together. Made around half a mil gold so far in 2+ weeks :)

5 cc is more than enough. I noticed if you're low on hit, the sheeps break early, but when you "cap" your hit rating for level 87 mobs, the sheeps last full duration, always.

[Teslah]

I'm starting to be very fast at this, each 50 mobs takes 30 minutes together. Made around half a mil gold so far in 2+ weeks :)

5 cc is more than enough. I noticed if you're low on hit, the sheeps break early, but when you "cap" your hit rating for level 87 mobs, the sheeps last full duration, always.

I was wondering why my sheeps were breaking in here. I was off just a little from the cap. That is a great tip. I didn't know hit applied to sheep duration.

Also, doing multiple groups seems more rewarding. If you are running enough CC characters keep going after the first group. No need to kill 3 and reset. The few times I did that I always felt " I bet the 4th one had the epic!"

Of course with a group of 5 it is much harder and the reset option is a great way to go.

[beeq]

I didn't know hit applied to sheep duration.

I'm not sure about this, but I had sometimes purple diamond breaking early and I wondered why only that mark breaks, noticed that mage which sheeps them was tad low on hit, so could be :)

[Speedbump]

I've had two goes at this since the 1st of the month. Cleared the first 3 groups and reset around 4 times the first night and then 6 times the last. So that would be no drops out of 140 mobs. Prior to last week I'd estimate doing 12 resets and getting 4 epics. I'm not one for just going with a gut feel that it was changed, but like pinotnoir, I'm thinking that there has been a change. Wowhead certainly showed a higher drop rate from past data. runtu, have any drops this last week from the first 3 groups? Or just 3 of the first 4 if that is still what you are doing?

[beeq]

I've had two goes at this since the 1st of the month. Cleared the first 3 groups and reset around 4 times the first night and then 6 times the last. So that would be no drops out of 140 mobs. Prior to last week I'd estimate doing 12 resets and getting 4 epics. I'm not one for just going with a gut feel that it was changed, but like pinotnoir, I'm thinking that there has been a change. Wowhead certainly showed a higher drop rate from past data. runtu, have any drops this last week from the first 3 groups? Or just 3 of the first 4 if that is still what you are doing?

in past two days I've got tsanga's helm, crossfire carbine and heaving plates of protection off the "big mobs", and yesterday I got the staff off the phase-twisters.

My third clearing going on now, last pack left and no epics today, that makes 140 mobs so far without shinies.

Have patience there, rng is rng :)

edit: fifth clear going, 230 mobs down, first epic today dropped, boring crossfire carbine. (off from phase-twister)

[beeq]

as of 4.0.6, standing in dark pools hurt like hell :(

[Multibocks]

Does that mean it is no longer possible to farm here? I always miss the good shit, haven't had time off to farm and now I got a good chunk starting Friday...

[Kicksome]

No, it's still easy to farm here. I still have no problems with my 5 mages. Just don't stand in the black stuff for too long...

[Kicksome]

Just an FYI - I went in there today. 2nd guy I killed dropped an epic, then then 5th guy I killed dropped an epic, then about 15 minutes later another epic dropped. So it really is just random. I farmed about 20 more minutes and had to go - so 3 epics in about 45 minutes.

[pinotnoir]

Just an FYI - I went in there today. 2nd guy I killed dropped an epic, then then 5th guy I killed dropped an epic, then about 15 minutes later another epic dropped. So it really is just random. I farmed about 20 more minutes and had to go - so 3 epics in about 45 minutes.

I hope I don't die in the circle things on the ground.

[Tight]

lol we had 5 drops in total in first room last night..

[Multibocks]

I went there today and got owned. I need better gear I guess. Didn't help that hex was getting resisted or lasting all of 10 secs.

[Lyonheart]

I went there today and got owned. I need better gear I guess. Didn't help that hex was getting resisted or lasting all of 10 secs.


did they nerf hex?

[pinotnoir]

I went back and got one epic finally. What I had to do is move forward and back to avoid the ground aoe.

[BrothelMeister]

I've been farming this like mad as well. It is possible to be run with DK+4 Ret paladin solo, but I still tend to bring extra people to make it more smooth.

Typical drop rated for me have been 2-3 epics per 3 full clears.

The aoe pulls are SUPER easy with 4 Ret paladins because divine storm spam heals incredibly well, especially with the 50% buff to damage 4.0.6 gave it.

I may not farm as much as other people, but I've gotten my guild about 15 pieces from there, and made about 150k gold from the other peices that have dropped in the past week or so.

As of now, I've seen everythign drop about 4-5 times, except that throwing axe. (which has never dropped)

[Multibocks]

You lucky cuz that axe aint worth shit.

[Multibocks]

did they nerf hex?
Nah I think i needed more hit rating.

[BrothelMeister]

Anyone else noticed a sharp decrease in drop rate for these as of the 15th? On Feb 14th, i had 4 drop, but since then I've run 6-7 runs and not seen ANY.

[Kicksome]

Anyone else noticed a sharp decrease in drop rate for these as of the 15th? On Feb 14th, i had 4 drop, but since then I've run 6-7 runs and not seen ANY.

I got 3 drops in like 2 hours last night, and the night before. It's been fine - no drop rate nerf. I have more epics than I can move. Random is really random. You might get lucky and get a bunch, or unlucky and get nothing for a while.

[Kicksome]

I just went in there, killed 3 things and got an epic drop.

[BrothelMeister]

damnit. The drop rate was cause for drama in my guild because jealous ppl were upset I wasn't giving them the loots. :/ Was hoping it had been hotfixed.

[Kicksome]

damnit. The drop rate was cause for drama in my guild because jealous ppl were upset I wasn't giving them the loots. :/ Was hoping it had been hotfixed.

Why would you give them the loot? Where you solo farming?

[Janus]

The crossfire is breaking sheep more often than not with me. Does polymorph depend on any particular stat for a mage or is it just my luck ?

And no... I am not DPSing the sheep by mistake :P
And yes I am hit capped for 87 mobs :D

[zenga]

ain't sheep suffering from DR's?

[Janus]

It does, but I am talking the second sheep being resisted/breaking too soon sometimes

[Kicksome]

ain't sheep suffering from DR's?

There's no DR in PvE. It will last for 60 seconds. You can keep them sheeped forever.

I'm not even close to 87 hit cap and I personally have never noticed a sheep breaking early when I didn't accidently dps it. When it breaks, it's always because the time limit is up. And I thought I re-sheeped but it was out of range or whatever.

There are probably less than 4 times total where it seemed to break just a bit early, but I really wasn't positive that I re-sheeped it.
So it's possible, but I haven't ever confirmed it - at least on my 5 mages. It's always user error from how I play at least.

Maybe there's a spell they cast that can cause problems, but I always interrupt the spells.

[Zzc2]

When i do the farm with my shams, i noticed hex would break early on my healer who wasnt hit capped. I put them all dps and ran 4dps and 1 tank and all hex's lasted same time so make sure you are hit capped. no problem clearing the whole room this way.

[Kicksome]

The first set of mobs you have one level 87 and the other 3 are level 85. Since you can't cc the level 87, I just sheep the 85's. My mages are hit capped for level 85 mobs - maybe that's why they don't break.

[Janus]

Been going at it for three days now with no luck with murples :(

And yes, being hit capped solved the sheep-breaking for me :D

I want to venture more into this with my 5-team. I noticed the second and third pulls are 5 mobs at a time. Any ideas how I can go about doing that ? I have a moonkin, mage, shammy, priest and pally

[Dorffo]

I finally got off my arse and went in tonight. wiped a few times getting pulls down, and another few times due to not being hitcapped on the healer (as mentioned).

Pulled out plate shoulders and the caster staff, thanks everyone for the pointers.

**edit: 20 years later, this made my team rich**

[Mercurio]

Been going at it for three days now with no luck with murples :(

And yes, being hit capped solved the sheep-breaking for me :D

I want to venture more into this with my 5-team. I noticed the second and third pulls are 5 mobs at a time. Any ideas how I can go about doing that ? I have a moonkin, mage, shammy, priest and pally

I've farmed this for countless hours and can tell you with confidence that if you are only farming epics, there is no reason to go beyond the first four mobs. Enter, kill three, keep the fourth sheeped, run out, (don't reset the instance), run back in, the initial four will be back up, repeat.

The other mobs are more complex to kill and the phase guys have a much lower epic drop rate.

[Zzc2]

If you're clearing the whole room, make sure to bring a tailor. You can get a lot of cloth from doing the phase bastards.

[Janus]

I've farmed this for countless hours and can tell you with confidence that if you are only farming epics, there is no reason to go beyond the first four mobs. Enter, kill three, keep the fourth sheeped, run out, (don't reset the instance), run back in, the initial four will be back up, repeat.

The other mobs are more complex to kill and the phase guys have a much lower epic drop rate.

Thanks Mercurio, I'll do that then

[BrothelMeister]

If you haev a class that does really good AoE damage (Like Ret paladins?) then the lower drop rate of the phase mobs is countered by their simplicity.

The run time spent running in and out of the instance is not efficient, so only killing the first 3 mobs will not be as fast, and I've done it both ways.

The only way the two 5 mob pulls would be any harder is if you only have 3 CCs available, if you have 4, you should just be able to have each of the CCers set focus on a mob, and cast their CC on focus target. With that, recasting CC in combat is simple.

[Janus]

I unfortunately only have 2 CC's. Sheep and Hex, as I play monkin,pally,shammy,mage,priest. The soul blades and shadow knights are immune to my moonkin's roots

[beeq]

I've farmed this for countless hours and can tell you with confidence that if you are only farming epics, there is no reason to go beyond the first four mobs. Enter, kill three, keep the fourth sheeped, run out, (don't reset the instance), run back in, the initial four will be back up, repeat.

The other mobs are more complex to kill and the phase guys have a much lower epic drop rate.

I'm not kidding, I got 16 BoE epics off the Phase-Twisters last weekend in 8 hours total farming.


I unfortunately only have 2 CC's. Sheep and Hex, as I play monkin,pally,shammy,mage,priest. The soul blades and shadow knights are immune to my moonkin's roots

Shadow Knights are rootable (Frost Nova and talented Cone of Cold works at least, so should work your moonkin's roots as well?)

[Dorffo]

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[Janus]

i will try it again tonight.... to root the shadow knight with my moonkin....

[beeq]

Common knowledge I guess, but here's a tip for looting.

1) Have Pass on Loot on all your toons, except your main toon, so you can easily loot everything on your main. Also if you have Loot Threshold on Common (default) and you have disenchanter in your group, you can DE all the greens in the fly while looting, since only your main toon will get the Need/Greed/Disenchant -window :)

2) Same as above, but have Loot Threshold on Epic. After you kill a pack, you can easily check in advance if the pack have any epics to loot, since only epic loot sparkles are visible to your slave toons :) Though you can not DE greens in a fly, since your main will loot them as is.

I've been very unlucky with amount of epics this weekend, only 2 so far compared to almost 20 epics last weekend with same amount of farming hours. Good luck though :)

[lans83]

Common knowledge I guess, but here's a tip for looting.

1) Have Pass on Loot on all your toons, except your main toon, so you can easily loot everything on your main. Also if you have Loot Threshold on Common (default) and you have disenchanter in your group, you can DE all the greens in the fly while looting, since only your main toon will get the Need/Greed/Disenchant -window :)

2) Same as above, but have Loot Threshold on Epic. After you kill a pack, you can easily check in advance if the pack have any epics to loot, since only epic loot sparkles are visible to your slave toons :) Though you can not DE greens in a fly, since your main will loot them as is.

I've been very unlucky with amount of epics this weekend, only 2 so far compared to almost 20 epics last weekend with same amount of farming hours. Good luck though :)


I've always kept mine set to Free for All when just running my teams and no one else in the group, but when I started using them in the random dungeon finder, and pugging the last to pop it, I had them on pass on loot. Not sure if it's been changed, but the short time I did this, they were unable to loot any profession plans/recipes they were able to pick up that was BoP, like from the bosses. Has this been changed or how would I set this up now for when I start back up to have my main able to loot all, be the only one to hit the need/greed/de roll, but still have slaves able to loot their plans/recipes?

[Zzc2]

with the amount of grays and cloth, it's stupid not to do ffa.

[beeq]

with the amount of grays and cloth, it's stupid not to do ffa.

how?

if you use the ways I mentioned, it means your main toon will loot all the grays and cloths as well of course.
If you get lots of greens, you can DE them in a fly not filling your bags.

Also, Potion of treasure finding works in tBoT. In case you have lots of cata herbs in your bags and you're wondering which pots you should make off those.. :)


how would I set this up now for when I start back up to have my main able to loot all, be the only one to hit the need/greed/de roll, but still have slaves able to loot their plans/recipes?

Afaik this is not possible :(

[Dorffo]

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[cidd]

I am just getting back into the game. so a quick question about this.

What would be the minimum ilevel suggested for trying the first 4 mobs? i will more than likely be going prot pally, 3 dps shaman and a druid or disc priest.

[Multibocks]

its going to be tough as a regular group. I suggest farming up some pvp and supplementing that with heroic reward gear. Make sure to max your valor each week. Mages are easy because they can bypass almost all the damage from the first mobs through sheer dps and crowd control. I would suggest a 350 min for a traditional group. Have fun strafing out of the black stuff!

[dancook]

I was doing this fine with a paladin and four shaman for a few runs.. but then I started thinking is a 10 man normal raid ok to get the drops? I tried changing to heroic and it said i couldn't enter since I haven't done a quest line.

Can someone just confirm if i should be doing heroic or not.

[shadewalker]

Normal is ok for trash drops. Or at least it was a few months back.

[jstanthr]

just to throw this out there, don't know if you know it or not, but. they removed all boe drops off of the easy trash mobs (the ones that are shown in beeq's video) only the big trash has a chance to drop the boe's now. and even that drop rate has been nerfed. Firelands trash was nerfed big time too as far as drop rates are concerned. but once u get ur team up to snuff, id def go into firelands just to grind some rep, the gear you can buy with rep is quite awesome IMO.

[Multibocks]

When did they do that?

[jstanthr]

from what i was told + acutally killed seems to be around 4.1 or 4.2ish. but i've went in a few times and the small trash no longer drops anything but gold and cloth (a grey here and there) only the bigger trash has a small chance for boe's. they done the same in firelands too, at first it was a gold mine for boe's but they lowered the drop rate on it as well.