Do boxers sell their accounts?

[valle2000]

Many times I get comments if I'll sell my accounts on ebay. I say no but people often don't believe me. Why do they think this? Do many boxers normaly sell their accounts or why do they get these ideas?

I would never sell my accounts, not even if the day come I'll stop playing WoW. The characters feel like my personal property (might in fact even consider them fictional friends) so I would never want any others to play them. Also if I ever stop I want to have the possibility to reactivate again.

Is this just me, or do many of you also feel a kind of personal affection to your characters?
Or would you sell them?

[katsurahama]

This is the comment i hear most often from people 'so how are you selling those accounts?'

Also, 'ni hao!' and REPORTED! and 'are you a gold farmer?' to the last one i usually say, Yes i must be a gold farmer because i'm obviously very sneaky and nobody will ever notice five identical toons with similar names.'




I doubt people sell their accounts. You can be banned if youre played accts in different names simultaneously. If you sell an acct in your name and someone bots it or sells gold and the acct gets banned then all your accts can be banned because theyre in the same name.

Finally, its a lot of work to level accts by hand and i wouldnt want to start all over again (again!) if i quit and wanted to come back (again!).

[MiRai]

EDIT: Forget it...

[ElectronDF]

I am offended that anyone would sell their accounts. If you flaunt it out loud, I will report it any chance I get.

[Littleburst]

I've not yet even considered to sell them, so I'm not commenting on that.

But i can understand that people think that we're selling the accounts. By boxing 4 chars instead of 1 you're atleast 3x as effective. Seeing that there are plenty of bots running leveling chars, it's not that complicated to get such a conclusion.

The thing to keep in mind is that some people tend to speak and think it through afterwards or not at all.

[Ualaa]

In Warcraft I've not sold accounts, characters or gold.
Anyone who asks, I've always said that flipping burgers at McDonalds would be far more money per hour, and that I could not possibly part with <insert character> because her tail (or ears) is too sexy or whatever.

For the last six months of Everquest, I turned it into a business.
Was using four accounts to power level a fifth to maximum level and then "twinking" them with gear one tier or so back from current content.
For the time invested, it wasn't really good money; a minimum wage job anywhere would have been comparable.
And the game was not at all fun.

Did not want Warcraft to turn into a boring event, so have no even considered doing the same.

[birdbleed]

I saw a breakdown of the time invested vs money earned from selling the account, somewhere. It wasn't even close to being worth it with the estimates that were used. I can't remember where I saw it so I can't check but I think it came out to be around $1.50/hr.

[Littleburst]

I saw a breakdown of the time invested vs money earned from selling the account, somewhere. It wasn't even close to being worth it with the estimates that were used. I can't remember where I saw it so I can't check but I think it came out to be around $1.50/hr.

It's probably still more fun then most badly payed jobs. I got a whisper from a guy who had an accident and couldn't work anymore. He was thinking about starting to box to make some money. It's probably not very effective, but could work in a situation like his.

[Fat Tire]

I had a huge post written but would have probably gotten the thread locked or flame war started so I deleted it.

I will say that I dont believe any boxer plays with the intention of selling their accounts.

[Svpernova09]

Look,

The ToS violating things of WoW are often something we come into contact with on an everyday basis being boxers. But at the same time the rules of this site are pretty clear. Now in the past few months I've tried to be a bit relaxed on this. I'm not the WoW police. If you're violating any agreements you have with them I frankly don't give a shit. Where I do give a shit is when you come here flaunting / taunting it just because you can.

I have a hard time saying "Don't talk about X it's against the ToS" where clearly, we deal with misconceptions that we're violating the ToS every single day. I'm not saying we're changing the rules and any topic is fair game here. We're not changing the rules at all. I think it's every multiboxer's responsibility to be able to clearly speak to the ToS specifically to the points where they're not breaking the rules.

So maybe this will help clear up some of the grey area of moderation:

Not OK:
"lols I make a BAJILLION GOLD AND SOLD IT ALL TO SUPPORT MY ALCHEMY HABIT"
"Do this exloit to makes 1,000 every 2 seconds, x 5 that's 5k every TWO SECONDS"

OK:
"Hey guys, did you see that court case where glider actually won some arguments?"
"I got told most boxers sell their accounts, is there any truth to this?"
"Selling gold will get you a ban, but has anyone every really been banned for buying it? seems like a double standard"

Hopefully this clears up a few things. If not, feel free to ask.

[angeldeelite]

Sell my accounts? Feck that! Put way to much time into WoW to give it all up for a bit of pocket money!
I love my toons, there my world away from the harsh reality that is my mundane existence! You don't get to fly
On a dragon every day!, unless your playing WoW :D

[vae432]

when i started 4 boxing i kept getting asked that question all the time by my guildmates: are u gonna sell your accounts etc.

i put alot of time and effort into each team plus they all linked into 1 bnet account in my name, no way would/could i even think of selling. plus if we can afford to pay for multiple accounts i dont think any of us are desperate for cash and need to sell off accounts.

[ebony]

Sell my accounts? Feck that! Put way to much time into WoW to give it all up for a bit of pocket money!
I love my toons, there my world away from the harsh reality that is my mundane existence! You don't get to fly
On a dragon every day!, unless your playing WoW :D


+1 am with you on this angel

[RobinGBrown]

I've seen EVE online charcters offered for a lot of money but even there, where they can be traded legitimately, it seems like a lot of time/money spent for little return. I haven't played WoW in over a year but I wouldn't consider selling my accounts.

I'd imagine that much more money is spent on buying gold rather than characters.

[Toned]

I get so annoyed with how often people assume im botting or selling accounts.

[Apps]

I am offended that anyone would sell their accounts. If you flaunt it out loud, I will report it any chance I get.


I saw a breakdown of the time invested vs money earned from selling the account, somewhere. It wasn't even close to being worth it with the estimates that were used. I can't remember where I saw it so I can't check but I think it came out to be around $1.50/hr.


Sell my accounts? Feck that! Put way to much time into WoW to give it all up for a bit of pocket money!
I love my toons, there my world away from the harsh reality that is my mundane existence! You don't get to fly
On a dragon every day!, unless your playing WoW :D


I get so annoyed with how often people assume im botting or selling accounts.

ALLLLL This. ^^^^

What in God's name would possibly get me to:

Forego my personal lifes time.
Upgrade my computer.
Cost: Download / pay for the software.
Kill Millions of mobs and players.

Time to do the research to multibox.
Have and obtain the feats or achievements I want
Acquire the personal goals I want.
The time spent, grouping, ungrouping, questing, sharing quests, dungeons, raids, pvp, mounts. etc etc etc.

I think not.

[Gramzngunz]

I would sooner DIE then let some scrub caress my sweet shamans for money. That would make me a virtual prostitute!

[Mukade]

If you make the kind of money that allows you to start multiboxing, it's highly unlikely that you'd need to resort to selling accounts to supplement your income.

Twinks on the other hand are a completely different story. Because a huge number of them are kids, many don't have the kind of income to support even one account, so account selling and playing private servers is rampant among twinks.

Multiboxing implies a much higher level of maturity, in order to both manage the technical side of it, and support it financially. That maturity suggests that multiboxers are more responsible, and likely to follow the rules.

[Apps]

If you make the kind of money that allows you to start multiboxing, it's highly unlikely that you'd need to resort to selling accounts to supplement your income.

Twinks on the other hand are a completely different story. Because a huge number of them are kids, many don't have the kind of income to support even one account, so account selling and playing private servers is rampant among twinks.

Multiboxing implies a much higher level of maturity, in order to both manage the technical side of it, and support it financially. That maturity suggests that multiboxers are more responsible, and likely to follow the rules.


I absolutely LOVE the logic side of thinking here.

Fantastic. /Cheer. I really wish I'd had said this.

[Tonuss]

It's probably still more fun then most badly payed jobs. I got a whisper from a guy who had an accident and couldn't work anymore. He was thinking about starting to box to make some money. It's probably not very effective, but could work in a situation like his.
It might be fun at first, but having to play in order to make money would probably burn a person out pretty fast. Can you imagine having to play WOW 6, 8 or 10+ hours every day?

As for the main topic, it seems to me that most people who ask/accuse us of selling accounts are looking for a reason to criticize multiboxing. When "they have no friends" or "they fail so bad they need five accounts" doesn't get the reaction they wanted, they can always fall back on accusing us of something that might get our accounts banned. So accusing multiboxers of selling accounts or gold will be popular amongst the knuckle-dragging crowd.

[Ualaa]

A very geared Everquest account has gone for stupidly high amounts of money. Several of my friends were in Afterlife when it was a top 2 or 3 guild across all servers, at the height of Everquest. When they finally quit the game, their accounts made them $500-$1000 for the platinum and then $5000-$8000 (US) for the characters themselves.

Warcraft comparably is stupidly easy to gear up a toon. Unlike Everquest, it is not a two year process with a raiding guild which puts in 40 hours a week, to reach "top 5 on the server" status for your class. If it took you 25x longer to reach 85th and two to three years before you reached BiS or a close item in each slot after reaching 85th... characters might go for a lot more.

Taking into consideration, 80-100 hours to reach 85th from 1st without RAF if you have a half decent idea of what to do, where to go, etc... and possibly less than half that time, for someone following a quest stacking guide or playing with RAF, etc... For someone who enjoys the game, this is not a monotonous and painful grind, but a fun process. Classic + BC (Battlechest) + WotLK + Cata = $120. If you value your time at $10/hr (which is what you'd make flipping burgers here), and assume you could level to 85 in say 60 hours... You would need 60 x 10 = 600 + 120 = $720 or more for an undergeared character. If you wanted to do a pvp grind for full honor gear and say three weeks of points for the Conquest weapons, that's likely another 40 hours. I don't see an ungeared toon selling for $700+ or a decently geared character selling for over $1000 in Warcraft.

In an environment where it was painful to level, and a 15-30 minute death loop (whether dying at your bind point repeatedly, or dying 6-8 times retrieving your corpse) could set you back 20-25 hours of leveling... The half geared characters at maximum level, the equivalent of a level 85 with full honor gear and a conquest weapon (was actually full Skyshrine - Halls of Testing gear) would go for $1000 or so. I could level and gear two of these at once over the course of a month.

Having played Everquest for six or seven years, putting massive amounts of time into the game and doing lots of stuff that was quite fun... Then turning it into a business for eight or nine months. Sure it was enough to pay for my limited bills at the time, and got me by. A full time job, flipping burgers would have been close to $1600 a month gross. I was making $2000-$2400/mo, which is a bit better. But this was more like 80 hours a week (weekends included) where the burgers would have been 40 hours (half the time). And the worst part, my own toons which had been so fun to play up until 2-3 months into the character business, were a boring monotonous grind where I didn't have any fun playing them.

At the start of Warcraft, looking at the character selling site I had used (playerauctions) for the EQ characters, Warcraft characters were going for $300. Even if I were to crank out four characters a month (twice what I had been doing with EQ), the money was not there. Plus, being a new game Warcraft was actually fun and I wanted to log in to play my characters (was two-boxing, with two machines no hardware/software... exactly the same as EQ except two boxes instead of six).

So selling characters financially is not a good option. Selling gold is no good, if you were to rely on your own accounts to generate it. And going the keylog route and screwing another person out of their gold would never be an option for me. I might be vindictive enough to bring a higher team and camp someone for an hour, if they flagged (Carebear server) to take out my lower toons who inadvertently became flagged for something. But I won't ever put someone through the aggravation/pain of a hacked account.

Not really a hard choice -- play the game and enjoy it as a recreational activity (even if I sometimes "log" 100+ hours in a week), and never really consider it as a business opportunity. The money is not there, which is a good thing because the fun factor goes away very quickly if your recreational activity becomes your money maker.

[d0z3rr]

It's an interesting thing for me. I would never sell any of my accounts, I like all my characters and have spent too much time on them (at least to me, /played of 10days is A LOT to me). I also have done RAF ad nauseum, to the point that levels 0-70 will make my head explode - selling my accounts and having to do that all over again would be pointless unless I was in a dire financial situation, or my cocain addiction gets the better of me ( j/k :D ).

I used to buy and sell accounts back in the Vanilla days. The reason I did this was to try out the different classes without having to level to 60 over and over again. It also allowed to me to get a level 60 character with already decent gear so I could join higher level raids and pvp without having to grind out instances or raids and save dkp. If I got bored playing a mage, I'd sell it and get a rogue. Most of the time nobody knew the account had been ebayed, and if they did, they were cool with it (since I didn't suck ass).

The only reason I stopped doing that was because of multiboxing. I can level 5 characters at once all 5 different classes, and boom - after two groups I can then play any class in the game. I can switch between melee and caster classes, if I feel like healing or tanking I just jump on the tank or healer and PUG.

[Mukade]

Something else to consider these days is that making an endgame raiding capable character means you're going to be putting up with pug hc groups.

All the changes that cata brought in to heroics and class mechanics means that multiboxing is not going to be usable to farm too many of them.

I'm guessing any boxers who are at the point where they can even do some of the cata heroics, have already geared their characters by playing them solo.

[Littleburst]

It might be fun at first, but having to play in order to make money would probably burn a person out pretty fast. Can you imagine having to play WOW 6, 8 or 10+ hours every day?

Beats working at a Conveyer belt any day, i'd asume :D

[kate]

Personally I don't care if people think I sell accounts or gold or whatever - I've been told "Reported!" quite a bit and yet I haven't been banned, so obviously whatever those people think is irrelevant. Why would I get bothered by it?

While I personally wouldn't sell accounts or gold (it simply wouldn't be worth my time), I really don't care if other people do, either, because I don't particularly think it has any real impact on the game. We've all seen people who are so incredibly bad that we assume they must have bought their accounts on eBay, but the fact of the matter is, some people just suck and suck HARD at this game. I really cannot imagine that the number of bought characters/accounts is somehow so large that it would even begin to have an impact on any area of gameplay.

I do have a friend who is unemployed and, while she's looking for work she has taken to offering powerleveling & rep grinding to people. She works on about 10 different characters a week and makes enough to cover her bills, but it's not exactly a good living - just something to tide through until new work. I also know a few people who sell gold to their guildmates in exchange for timecards and stuff like that.

Seriously, when I think about things that are problems in this game, people making a few bucks here and there on the fringes is not even on the radar.

[valle2000]

Also another thing you hear quite often is: But isn't it expensive?
This is a very strange question, because all hobbies usually cost money and this is my hobby.

It's all about what you prioritize. Some people use up way more money than a month fees of five accounts just by e.g. going out one night. Or buys cloths more often due to fashion, or going to the cinema paying same amount as a month fee just to be entertained for 2 hours...

[Fat Tire]

Most of the people that sell their accounts are done playing the game never to return. No one can blame anyone for trying to recoup any money spent on wow if another person values it especially if they are done playing.

In my opinion the better question would be, why do people buy accounts? Here you will find the answer as to why people sell their accounts. Why chase the carrot when you can just pay off the guy holding the stick.

[Tonuss]

Beats working at a Conveyer belt any day, i'd asume :D
Hah! True. If I had a choice between working the counter at McDonalds and playing WOW all day...

Also another thing you hear quite often is: But isn't it expensive?
This is a very strange question, because all hobbies usually cost money and this is my hobby.
I had a player comment to me the other day "you must be loaded... five accounts?"

To me, it just indicates a young player. Hey, there was a time when $15 a month was not easy for me to come by, much less a whopping $75 a month.

Then, you know... I got a job.

[Dorffo]

Hah! True. If I had a choice between working the counter at McDonalds and playing WOW all day...

I had a player comment to me the other day "you must be loaded... five accounts?"

To me, it just indicates a young player. Hey, there was a time when $15 a month was not easy for me to come by, much less a whopping $75 a month.

Then, you know... I got a job.

This is what I encounter the most often. I do recall having to work an extra shift to pay for my everquest/dial-up way back when, so I can understand that POV.

[jinkobi]

Biggest problem if you want to sell it is that 99.9% of the buyers are just scammers. Really just asking to be scammed..

[F9thRet]

Also another thing you hear quite often is: But isn't it expensive?
This is a very strange question, because all hobbies usually cost money and this is my hobby.

It's all about what you prioritize. Some people use up way more money than a month fees of five accounts just by e.g. going out one night. Or buys cloths more often due to fashion, or going to the cinema paying same amount as a month fee just to be entertained for 2 hours...


Good lord this is the truth. I used to have a Boat!

I'm saving money playing wow in my old age.

anyways, as to the topic, I wouldn't sell my toons , as I put way too much time in to them. In fact, the only reason I could even think of such a thing, is if like, I had to buy a kidney for my wife or something, and even then, taking a step away from my honesty would bug me for the rest of my gaming life.

That being said, It's not really my business to say what is right or wrong for someone else, so as I can understand those leaving and selling their accounts, at the end of the day, it's really none of my business.

Stephen

[Lpwned]

People on my server are too ‘We Todd It’ to realize I can level 4 accounts as fast as I can level 1 (Maybe faster with RAF). So they think I solo leveled all 4 of them. This is always made apparent by the “No life” “Loser” comments.

I have only had one intelligent individual realize I can level 4X as fast, and ask if I was selling them. Accounts go for $400 or more per account on ebay (about 2K for 5 accounts); it is very understandable why people ask.

I wouldn’t sell my accounts because I’m sure I’ll have an e-cocaine relapse soon.

[Fat Tire]

People on my server are too ‘We Todd It’ to realize I can level 4 accounts as fast as I can level 1 (Maybe faster with RAF). So they think I solo leveled all 4 of them. This is always made apparent by the “No life” “Loser” comments.

I have only had one intelligent individual realize I can level 4X as fast, and ask if I was selling them. Accounts go for $400 or more per account on ebay (about 2K for 5 accounts); it is very understandable why people ask.
I wouldn’t sell my accounts because I’m sure I’ll have an e-cocaine relapse soon.

Umm....no

What people list them for and what they actually sell for are two different things. Besides blizzard blasted EBay back when it was the best place to sell your account. Now if you list its only a matter of time before it gets removed. If it happens to get a buyer before that time, well whos to say. I looked over what accounts sold for in the past 2 months and you are way off.

[stoat]

I probably would have sold my accounts when I quit if I wasn't so lazy.

When I was playing people used to message me all the time asking if they could buy one (and they only had trivial, but time consuming badge gear).

[Dasana]

I would be money ahead to go into work and work overtime than the time it takes to level a team up. So the answer is no, they're not for sale.

[Lpwned]

Umm....no

What people list them for and what they actually sell for are two different things. Besides blizzard blasted EBay back when it was the best place to sell your account. Now if you list its only a matter of time before it gets removed. If it happens to get a buyer before that time, well whos to say. I looked over what accounts sold for in the past 2 months and you are way off.


I am basing my data on what I know as fact from about 8 months ago. That wasn’t guess work.

[Ualaa]

If you really want to, you can search eBay for finished auctions.
There's a history of what things actually sold for, or were not sold for.

If any listings actually sold, rather than got removed.
The data would be there in the Finished Auctions.

[Lpwned]

I heard ebay shut down account sales. So I would guess there aren’t many. A quick Google search shows that ebay isn’t where the accounts are being sold though…

[Khatovar]

20 seconds in google will show accounts @ ~ 200-300ea. As Ualaa pointed out, you're paying ~$120 for the game alone. You might get $50-150 for all the time it takes to level from 1-85. And, of course, you have to consider the subscription costs for while you are leveling if it exceeds the free game time that comes with the box purchases.

[Vociferate]

tl;dr I bought a warlock for $250 and sold my warrior for $1275. Warlock got scammed off me, and I lost alll I had done with it. was devestated. Life sucked. Then I moved on, and then patch 3.0 happened. My guild fell apart, and I quit the game and sold my warrior.



I wasn't planning on posting in this thread because I have been on both sides of the fence. And been there and back on more than one occasion. But, fuck it... I don't have anything to worry about.

During TBC, was when I was playing this game way too much. If I was awake and not at work/sleep. I was playing (Addicted much?).

I was in a guild that was amongst the top 25 globally as one of the Officers and Raid Leaders. We had to be reachable 24/7 and we raided more than a full time job. (During the SSC/TK races for Vashj & Kael world firsts.

During this time I was one of the Main Tanks, and I had gear coming out my ears. But, we had a bit of a fallout with our casters and lost a warlock and a mage. So, I told the guild I would have a Warlock to level 70 with Tier 4 in 2 weeks. Began levelling a warlock, and got it to about 60 when I heard about buying accounts. At this point time, it never occurred to me as a good thing to do. We had far too many people that could tank. But not enough caster DPS.

It was at this time I thought it was a good idea to buy an account. I had a job and some extra money, so I spent $250.00 on a decently geared warlock. (I still remember the gear that was being advertised. Full Frozen Shadoweave with 2pc Tier 4. And the dagger off the last boss in Kara.

Ok. Cool, buy that and I'll fill in a dedicated raider's spot with for my guild and we can continue plugging away at Vashj.

Right around the time Black Temple release, we were now there in the race for world firsts and tragedy was brewing. While working on Reliquary I began having disconnect after disconnect. Was thinking it was an internet problem.

Reboot the computer, and the router. And hop back into WoW. Only to find out that my password has been changed. No big deal, probably a hacker. Had been to a few not-so-safe websites.

I then found out from a guildy that my warlock had left the raid, the guild and logged off. So I go through the process of changing the password and such, only to find out the account is now not longer mine.

The original owner had come back, and reclaimed the account. Despite me paying for the character, a new copy of WoW and TBC, transferred the toon to the new account. He had reclaimed that account and the alts I had begun levelling on the account.

So, I proceed to login with my Warrior, and saw a popup that occurred when logging in. Along the lines of, "backround check and processes" or something to that effect.

Before getting in game, I am immediately disconnected.

Go to log back in, and find out my warrior has been banned.

So that night I not only lost my fully geared Warlock, but I also lost my Warrior.

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tl;dr I bought a geared Warlock, 11 months later, the original owner came back and owned me. I lost the warlock and my main account.
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Now, the other half... (I know, I am soooo bad).

Got back into the game, leveled another Warrior as fast as I could, got him to 70 and began getting gear through my old guild. And was getting things rolling again. (This was about 3 weeks into Sunwell being released).

Began running Sunwell like every other hardcore raiding guild, and we were still doing well as a guild. (I believe around this time we were 37th-36th in the world). And we were working on M'uru.

Kept getting wiped at Phase 1, just barely making it to Phase 2. Beating our heads against the wall, we barely manager to M'uru down, and began the fun-ness that was Kil'Jaeden. We had fallen considerably with the global ranking, and began losing a member or two a week to other guilds poaching, with promise of killing KJ before us.

Insert patch 3.0, we lost it all. We couldn't get KJ down in time. Devestated, I didn't know what to do. We went in the day of the patch, with broken addons and insane latency... We one shot him. I was infuriated, I quit out right. I stopped logging in.

By this time, I had my warrior with full Tier 6 Prot & DPS sets. I had the MH Glaive, and pretty much BiS gear.

I went back to the website where I bought the warlock. And listed my Warrior for sale. I was done playing WoW.

Ended up getting paid well over $1,000 for it. (6/9 Tier 3, Full Tier 2, Full T4,T5,T6 with both specs and a ton of mounts and pets.) It was a damn good vanity account.

Didn't play WoW for months, and had started playing on and off again when the Ulduar patch was on the PTR.

And I wanted more than one toon, so I began MB'ing a fair bit to level some toons. And now here I am.

[Fat Tire]

I am basing my data on what I know as fact from about 8 months ago. That wasn’t guess work.


I can pull shit out of my ass too. Perfect shit I tell you. Perfect

Everyone that us pulling out those numbers are in for a surprise if/when they try to sell. Now a days accounts dont sell for that much unless they are decked out in achievements/rare titles/mounts etc and extra items that dont come with a normal account. Sorry.

Usually anyone who pays more than 200 for an account you are asking to get scammed. People dont understand the way it works and if they dont its very easy to get screwed. Its also very very easy to screw someone over. This isnt guess work.

Also a heads up to everyone that has their accounts merged, its sold as a single account. The fact that it has 5 accounts on it doesnt mean jack. The more 85s doesnt mean more money, usually people want to transfer them to their server and at 25 (or faction change 30) a pop it adds up on top of the price paid for the account. I have accounts on playerauctions, mmobay and markee atm, so yea I know what I am talking about.

[Vociferate]

I can truly say how shocking it is to be scammed or scam someone else when buying an account. You can easily be scammed months later, after taking what you thought were the good enough security checks.

IE: Buying a new set of gamesand expacs, transferring toon(s) off the old account. Changing the name of the toon. Changing the first name on the account and keeping the last name in order to be able to transfer. Changing servers, and toon name(s).

When the Original Owner wants to come back, all they will need to do is contact Blizzard. Report the account stolen/hacked/keylogged. Blizzard will see it's being accessed by a different IP address, or look at the transfer history. See that the toon(s) have been moved.

With a quick button press and a few hours, that original owner can get that account back. All that work and you have put into it, is wasted. And the asshole not only wins the account, your money, and your hard work... They win at screwing you over.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

This thread is moving in predictable directions.

[d0z3rr]

Out of the 6 or so transactions I conducted when buying/selling accounts, only 1 was stolen back.

I let it go, but months later I initiated a password reset out of sheer curiosity and it was sent to my address. Converted their accounts to my own bnet account.

I was also able to find the person's twitter account and read their posts, found out their car had been stolen recently. Ah, karma is a bitch.

[Fat Tire]

This thread is moving in predictable directions.

Aye. Threads like these usually end in a lock.

[Lpwned]

This thread is moving in predictable directions.

WTS multiboxing accounts... who wants to buy? <- joke, dont ban me! :p Don't tase me bro, DONT TASE ME!!!

[Vociferate]

Regardless of what I had done back 4 years ago, a lot has changed for me personally. Age and maturity among them, I don't condone selling or buying accounts. It's simply just bad taste. Far too much goes wrong, especially with how easy it is to level now. With the boost with guild experience bonus, and RAF. It's simply stupid to not level your own toons.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Considering the time I put into my EQ1 toons if I sold them at $5,000 each I would lose money. Just better to keep them for the memories. One guy still has 6 million plat on him.

[Ualaa]

I got an email from Sony once.
Basically said any accounts still in good standing, would be active for two weeks.
Kind of a trial, to get you back into the game.

For some stupid reason, I had left my rogue camped out in Sleeper's Tomb.
And well, did not have any hotkeys or anything, which resulted in a death on logging in.. could not stealth or whatever.
You can have an npc summon your corpse and rez you; just costs a component which wasn't bad.

No huge desire to return to EQ1.
But the toons are there...