Still viable or outdated?

[toups]

So I haven't multiboxxed in a while (~2 yrs) and back then keyclone was pretty much the only solution.. now on here I'm seeing a lot of Is Boxer and such things that I've never heard of..
Just wondering if keyclone is still a "good" way to multibox compared to the "new" stuff.

[Ualaa]

Depending on your composition, specifically if you would like to mouse broadcast a lot of spells... things like Force of Nature (Treants), Flamestrike/Blizzard/Hurricane/Rain of Fire, etc, you might find the lack of broadcasting a rather limiting factor with KC.

If your composition doesn't have a lot of mouse broadcasting needs, KC is a decent option to box with. It has straight key broadcasting/repeating (whatever you want to call it), supports hotstrings so you can FTL with it, has both whitelist and blacklist options, and the ability to round-robin. It supports networking between multiple PC's.

If you're comfortable with scripts, you could do everything KC does with HKN (which is a free product) or even just add mouse broadcasting via HKN to your existing product. Check out the macro forum, for a thread called How to Earthquake, for details; especially Khatovar's post (first post on the second page).

Personally IS Boxer offers a lot more than other boxing options, without the need to write/edit/understand scripts. There are a ton of features which you cannot find elsewhere, and a ton which can be duplicated with HKN, but likely not with other boxing options. I'd take a hard look at IS Boxer, personally, but KC+HKN can easily work too.

[toups]

I have KC and used it a couple years ago and never really had a problem with it.. what is HKN? might be worth looking into

[Ualaa]

Hot Key Net
www.hotkeynet.com

IS Boxer
www.isboxer.com
www.lavishsoft.com

[Siaea]

As a former KeyClone user for about 2 years, I switched to ISBoxer and love it. Especially with the influx of "mouse targeted" spells that almost all classes have now. It's just easier, in my opinion. I liked KeyClone when I had it, but ISBoxer is considerably easier to get running from the start.

[HPAVC]

hotkeynet for life! :)

[katsurahama]

I used keyclone a couple years ago. Isboxer is so much easier to set up.

[elfconn]

Well I am getting annoyed at Keyclone. Everytime I start it I need to restarnsfer my license (I have used the same computer and OS for many months so its not that I am changing PCs each day. And I cant get a response from Keyclone on how to fix this so I am strongly considering abandoning this app. Its annoying to have to transfer the license each day and to redo my settings. I do run it has admin so its not a rights issue and yes I tried it as a regular user.

Windows 7 premium 64bit
AMD Phenom II X920 Quad Core Black edition
6Gig ram

[toups]

Well I am getting annoyed at Keyclone. Everytime I start it I need to restarnsfer my license (I have used the same computer and OS for many months so its not that I am changing PCs each day. And I cant get a response from Keyclone on how to fix this so I am strongly considering abandoning this app. Its annoying to have to transfer the license each day and to redo my settings. I do run it has admin so its not a rights issue and yes I tried it as a regular user.

Windows 7 premium 64bit
AMD Phenom II X920 Quad Core Black edition
6Gig ram
Um.. that has nothing to do with my thread and I don't appreciate it being hijacked.. open up your own thread please..

Thanks for the feedback, I think I'll try keyclone once again and see how it goes with the new class skills and such and consider IsBoxer.

[Sam DeathWalker]

There is no choice anymore IsBoxer with the two step method is unbeatable.

[Khatovar]

There is no choice anymore IsBoxer with the two step method is unbeatable.

Considering the same thing can be done with HKN (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=33160&highlight=Hotkeynet) and is possible with even the default interface (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34310), I'd say that there are choices.

[Teslah]

There is no choice anymore IsBoxer with the two step method is unbeatable.

I am still using keyclone and have downed all the heroics (just me with no help) except the last boss in GB and Heroic Throne of Tides. IsBoxer is a more rich program and easy to setup, but keyclone still works very well. The only problem you run into is when casting "click on the ground" spells like treants. I usually do those at the beginning and it isn't a problem.

Anyway, haven't been playing too much lately. Busy with work.

Good luck to you.

[elfconn]

Um.. that has nothing to do with my thread and I don't appreciate it being hijacked.. open up your own thread please..

Thanks for the feedback, I think I'll try keyclone once again and see how it goes with the new class skills and such and consider IsBoxer.

DUDE it has evrything to do with your thread.

You are wondering about Keyclone and I am informing you of issues I am having

I am NOT hijacking your thread. If you dont want peoples experiences with something then DONT ask in a PUBLIC forum about it.

Geez

[Ualaa]

IS Boxer has more features than any other option.
Flexibility, if you need it, is power in boxing like most other things.
Especially once you get the basics of how this software works.

Most of the stuff you can do with IS Boxer, you could do with HKN.
But HKN is script based, so you might need to learn a bit more than IS Boxer.
Like IS Boxer, there is phenomenal support for HKN; either is a great choice.

KC might be good enough for your needs, and you already have a license.

There are other options, but those are the forefront.

[F9thRet]

I like both, and have used both at various times, But I think KC is much easier to set up.

Having to map all those keys in Isboxer seems to take me forever, and even then, I can never figure out the broadcasting thing in the corner.

But then again, IsBoxer has many more options also, so take it with a grain of salt, as both are excellent programs.

Stephen

[Whowantstoknow]

I like both, and have used both at various times, But I think KC is much easier to set up.

Having to map all those keys in Isboxer seems to take me forever, and even then, I can never figure out the broadcasting thing in the corner.

But then again, IsBoxer has many more options also, so take it with a grain of salt, as both are excellent programs.

Stephen

Isboxer has the ability to be just as easy to set as KC by using black/white lists instead of Key Maps.

Everything you can do in KC you can do in Isboxer. If you want to get the most out of ISboxer then using Keymaps is far more powerful but you have the choice whether to use them.

At this point in time KCs feature set is too limiting for me. I would go with HKN (or Mojo) or Isboxer.

[Zub]

i suggest to read this: Keyclone vs ISBoxer - my experience (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=31275)

[Ualaa]

That's a fair review of both products.

[toups]

DUDE it has evrything to do with your thread.

You are wondering about Keyclone and I am informing you of issues I am having

I am NOT hijacking your thread. If you dont want peoples experiences with something then DONT ask in a PUBLIC forum about it.

Geez
Wrong, has NOTHING to do with my thread. I was not asking if anyone had any problems with keyclone or "wondering about keyclone" or anything of that matter. I have used keyclone for yrs and have never had any problems, the thread isd about whether it is still "good" compared against IsBoxer due to IsBoxer's various functions that keyclone does not have.
You stating you have problems with your keyclone and can't get support doesn't affect my judgment of keyclone what so ever and I didn't ask for peoples experiences with it, read my post better.

Thank you for the feedback, I'm trying IsBoxer on the 7-day trail now, some things I like (such as not having to make custom macros for almost every skill, being able to switch back and forth between windows flawlessly, etc.)

[elfconn]

Wrong, has NOTHING to do with my thread. I was not asking if anyone had any problems with keyclone or "wondering about keyclone" or anything of that matter. I have used keyclone for yrs and have never had any problems, the thread isd about whether it is still "good" compared against IsBoxer due to IsBoxer's various functions that keyclone does not have.
You stating you have problems with your keyclone and can't get support doesn't affect my judgment of keyclone what so ever and I didn't ask for peoples experiences with it, read my post better.

Thank you for the feedback, I'm trying IsBoxer on the 7-day trail now, some things I like (such as not having to make custom macros for almost every skill, being able to switch back and forth between windows flawlessly, etc.)

YES IT DOES If you dont want peoples opinion then dont ask for it. You were wondering if keyclone is good my stating the issues and lack of support i am having is VERY RELEVANT to your thread.

Like I said if you dont want people to comment on your thread then dont post it.

last time I try and provide help to someone.

[toups]

YES IT DOES If you dont want peoples opinion then dont ask for it. You were wondering if keyclone is good my stating the issues and lack of support i am having is VERY RELEVANT to your thread.

Like I said if you dont want people to comment on your thread then dont post it.

last time I try and provide help to someone.
You're very ignorant.
Once again, I DIDNT ASK FOR PEOPLES OPINIONS ON KEYCLONE.
Maybe you can read now that its in caps since you seem to like them.
I was NOT wondering if keyclone is good, I have used it for years, I KNOW it's good.
Your lack of support is of no concern to me because I do not need support for keyclone.

Please don't try to "help" me again, your just posting for nothing.

[elfconn]

You're very ignorant.
Once again, I DIDNT ASK FOR PEOPLES OPINIONS ON KEYCLONE.
Maybe you can read now that its in caps since you seem to like them.
I was NOT wondering if keyclone is good, I have used it for years, I KNOW it's good.
Your lack of support is of no concern to me because I do not need support for keyclone.

Please don't try to "help" me again, your just posting for nothing.

Dude I was NOT rude to you so no need to be rude and say I cant read. you are not a polite person

you asked if kc was good and of others were better or not \i told you my experience with kc now eother accept peoples advise or not its up to you but dont complain if someone gives you afvise on something that could benefit you or someone else.

its a PUBLIC forum btw so you ask for opinions and |I am allowed to post it.

[MiRai]

What are we 9 years old? Stop arguing with CAPS LOCK and just ignore the other person.
This thread has become so constructive that I think it's time to lock it down.