won a thread vs my dk team in EU forum

[Prega]

few min ago noticed on mmo-champion blue tracker, and ofc in EU forum a 3 pages thread about a WSG match played last night by my dks team.
my chars are all named. tone is similar to other threads i read in past.

Tempted to reply something, but tbh not sure it could be useful.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1535574817?page=1

[Siaea]

Nice :) You don't see too many "multiboxing cheating blah blah" threads with a Blue in it.

[Zal]

haha, i saw that thread and linked it to my buddies. Great job.

[Apps]

4 pages now.

@ Prega, I have never wanted you more. /cheers

I read every word, of every post, of every page, in that thread. I actually laughed out loud here, at work, and had to pause for a few mins before reading.

So many comments, alas;
This thread simply encourages me to Box harder. Those of you who have kids, or are old enough to buy a drink... can appreciate how visible it is to see young adults, or kids, try SOOO hard to make an excuse, or plead their case. LOL@ the young man/woman who tried to seperate out a single sentence of the Terms of Use. I can see my own son, begging and pleading his case as to "why he DESERVES a cell phone".

I really wished he would post the screen shot.

Priceless.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

After reading that thread, I think the average intelligence of the WoW community has dropped sharply over time. Obviously, critical thinking skills are rare these days.

[Apps]

After reading that thread, I think the average intelligence of the WoW community has dropped sharply over time. Obviously, critical thinking skills are rare these days.


ROFL!!

"<Avg Wow User> Crits you with Spell 'Ignorance' for 100,000"

[Umbaalo]

This made me lol...hard.....for a solid half hour. Yes, there were even tears shed. Thanks for sharing this and keep up the good work in arenas!

I'll have to agree that the WoW community over time has slipped into caveman intelligence for the most part. And I finally realized what/why I missed vanilla so much: the caliber of players. At the risk of sounding like an elitist prick (which I'm not, and a very easy going chap), if a player back then was an idiot in general or lacking basic social and communication skills....they didn't last very long in Azeroth. Don't want to be just another preacher of Blizzard's "dumbing down WoW trend", but this increase in less-than-average demographic is killing the game.

[valkry]

I would have just replied with "welcome to 4 years ago and the only one breaking any rules is you with the names in a post!"

Awesome thread though, ty :P

[Igg]

That's awesome about your team but multiboxing or not, the average intelligence of a multiboxer vs. non multiboxers are is obviously greater sine it actually takes a lil bit of thinking to set it up and get it working effectively.

Most wow players can't even bother to use wowhead these days so winning vs. them is almost by default.

There I said it ;p

[Apps]

That's awesome about your team but multiboxing or not, the average intelligence of a multiboxer vs. non multiboxers are is obviously greater sine it actually takes a lil bit of thinking to set it up and get it working effectively.

Most wow players can't even bother to use wowhead these days so winning vs. them is almost by default.

There I said it ;p


ROFL!! OMG soooo this ^^.

I just had an hr long conversation with a new player last night. (sry, not attempting to hijack your thread here), Shes new, but shes an adult. Mother, wife, just trying to have fun and relax and unwind from the day. Shes got a great handle on her DK...however, the frustration of even new, shall I say, competent players, is evident too. Getting kicked from a Random Pug group for asking "why rez me, if you wont heal me after rez?.. I could just run back"... meanwhile being the only person in that group pulling 10K dps. SHE was the one kicked.

Its hard for people to grasp, that in vanilla, "tards" were stuck in barrens chat, or hung out in goldshire, or just ganked for days in Stranglethorn. Today, you dont have to be good to get a group. Simply click a button, and you get your "deserved" group. Sad really, for those who try.

as for the Blizz thread... 5 pages now. ROFL!

[Khatovar]

Getting kicked from a Random Pug group for asking "why rez me, if you wont heal me after rez?.. I could just run back"... meanwhile being the only person in that group pulling 10K dps.

Well, DKs aren't currently terribly hard to hit massive DPS numbers with. I could shoo my cats back and forth across my husband's keyboard and his DK would still manage twice as much DPS as most of my toons.

Now, as a former healer, no, I would not heal someone after I rez them. I'm gonna sit my as down and eat/drink, just like that newly rezzed person should do, since I just blew a wad of mana on rezzing and rebuffing. Nor am I going to sit around and wait for someone to run all the way back, especially since half the time people can't find their way back with a map, a Sherpa and a flare.

[Zappy]

Where's Krushpak when you need him. :D

Someone needs to reply to http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1535574817?page=5#89 as I have no EU toons.


Most players in BGs and PvP know this and that is why there are no multiboxing gladiators - and never will be.
Once I see a multiboxing gladiator team, I will start considering any arguments to possibly hold a valid point, but until then - it's only QQ based on hurt pride.


and link him:

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=168939

[Tonuss]

The last line in that OP was great:


I mean, please dont say Multiboxing is allowed... JesusI can just see the headline a few years from now: "MULTIBOXING LED ME TO JESUS"

Anyway, this stuff is still amusing to read, but I'm really glad that we spent that time a couple years back battling against the people trying to get it banned. Anti-boxers tried every possible excuse and attack and we rebuffed each and every one until Blizzard itself wound up making a definitive statement that it was not against the rules and that they had no issues with it. It is, as far as I am concerned, a settled issue. Blizzard may, at some future date, decide that they no longer want to allow multiboxing, but it will not be because of the arguments that the crybabies make. It will be because they changed their minds for some reason or other.

Until that day comes, I'll enjoy watching the crybabies do what they do best.

Edit to add: they even rolled out one of my favorites: "I really dont care what you say." That's right, Blizzard, this guy is the most important person in the whole world, and he says it's cheating! Well, that settles it, then.

[Apps]

I'm gonna take a comment from the developers of the game Aion.

Paraphrased: "...Yes, we recognize botting is present in the game. We also recognize some of these users with botting programs, do sell in game gold. We recognize some users maintain multiple accounts. However, the games world content is vast, and there are more monsters, than just the small crabs which characters fight over.... Our product is driven to entertain, and enjoy. Entire companies, have been produced, purchasing and maintaining hundreds of accounts. We appreciate every customer, and will continue to strive to make each and every customers experience enjoyable."

Blizzard is not much different. They produce, and sell this games time. Not actual content. One guy makes a statement that "I dont care what you say."... and Blizzard is supposed to be concerned? Std Business models have bell curves for a reason. There are always outside flyers. The company is to cater to the mass, not the rogue flyers... not to the one guy who has a hard on for (x) reason. Those kids, with their egos hurt and their sorrowful comments of woe, need to realize, if I can search my routers settings and see 4 computers connected to it, Blizzard can see the chineese with 70+ accounts on an IP frame...or they see me, with 5 accounts active at the same time.

applying this to multiboxing... Yes, they know. The software or hardware, is no different than me purchasing a wireless keyboard, and mouse, and syncing to 5 receivers. They know.

And when it comes right down to it... I own (5) accounts, I am a $75/month customer. The one guy with the QQ is a $15/month customer. If it was your business, and you were forced to make a decision, and upset one customer... who would you side with???

[Ughmahedhurtz]

And when it comes right down to it... I own (5) accounts, I am a $75/month customer. The one guy with the QQ is a $15/month customer. If it was your business, and you were forced to make a decision, and upset one customer... who would you side with???
Yeah, but when it comes to whining, there are a LOT more people QQ'ing than there are multiboxing accounts, so if it were really about money only, we'd have all been banned years ago. Blizzard has the data to show that these QQ'ers are exactly that: QQ'ers for the sake of QQ. Because they think 5x1 should favor the 1. Basically, Blizzard calls the WAAAAAaaambulance every time these threads start up. Do these idiots think that no Blizzard employee has ever gone up against a multiboxer in Arenas/BGs?

Seriously, you just can't fix stupid.

[ghonosyph]

lol i love the fact that the blizz posters stated it real plain and simple yet the scrub QQ'ers STILL get mad lol

"you're going up against 5 characters, not one, regardless of whether or not those 5 are controlled by 1 player or not"

lol dumb kids can be dumb, but we still get to roffle stomp the noobs ! hahahahaha

[Mercbeast]

After reading that thread, I think the average intelligence of the WoW community has dropped sharply over time. Obviously, critical thinking skills are rare these days.

When was the average ever high? Wow has always been a simple game that specifically targeted the lowest common denominator.

[Tonuss]

And when it comes right down to it... I own (5) accounts, I am a $75/month customer. The one guy with the QQ is a $15/month customer. If it was your business, and you were forced to make a decision, and upset one customer... who would you side with???
I would assume that they look at it from a much larger picture. The money that comes in from your typical player (single boxer, using one account) is probably much, much more than they get from players who mutlibox. If it was a case of catering to the almighty dollar, we would be screwed.

I just think that they don't have a problem with multiboxing. Period. If it ever does become an issue, they would ban it and take action against anyone trying to do it. But the number of multiboxers is small, and our impact on other players is tiny, and the number of people who whine on the forums is (I believe) microscopically small compared to the whole player base. There is no disruption on a scale that would lead Blizzard to decide that it is a problem.

In any case, the argument that "multiboxers pay more and Blizzard listens to the cash" is one of my favorites because it allowed me to turn the tables on a lot of the whiners. About a half-dozen times, I responded to it by pointing out that if it was true, then Blizzard essentially has no integrity, as they can be easily 'bought' and will cater to the deepest pocket even if it ruins the game. Then I would point out that by continuing their subscriptions, they were supporting Blizzard's decision to screw them over at the expense of those rich, basement-dwelling losers. And what does it say about a person that would pay monthly fee to get bent over and reamed like a cheap whore?

I didn't quite word it that way, but the idea was the same. I never got an answer to that question. Most people ignored it no matter how many times I restated it. Heh...

[jinkobi]

To lots of people it looks like we're performing magic with our synchronized movements. They just do not get it or how it works.

Totalbiscuit brought up multiboxing in his last couple of Azeroth dailies. Glad someone as outspoken as him gets it and he pretty much tears people bitching about it a new one.

[Littleburst]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKvSxTzLDc&feature=player_detailpage#t=146s

from 2:30

:D

[Fef]

"Multiboxing is allowed. The player must be stinking rich and nerdy as well to do something like that, but it is allowed."

I get this a lot in game. That's a good indication of the fact that a lot of players are just kids. Mum pays for one account, but there is no way she would pay for five. And of course 65 euros a month is a lot of money when you're 12. When you are close to 40 and have a job, it become by far less significant.

[BrothelMeister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKvSxTzLDc&feature=player_detailpage#t=146s

from 2:30

:D

I Lol'd HARD

[Apps]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKvSxTzLDc&feature=player_detailpage#t=146s

from 2:30

:D


"Seriously..... READ IT". im still chuckling.

[Hivetyrant]

"Seriously..... READ IT". im still chuckling.

"You know, maybe you lost the battleground because you SUCKED, did that ever cross your mind?
No of course not, you are a god amongst Goblins"


hahah I love this TotalBiscuit guy more and more every time I see his videos.

[Kalros]

Now one part of the blue post did stick out to me:


It's just not how this game works. I can see how this sort of behaviour would be unfair in other forms of gaming, but not here. Here it is fine for the time being.

This is at least the 3rd time I have seen a blue post make a vague hint that it may some day NOT be tolerated. Honestly though, its probably just something they all say to keep the nerdrage low, and give the QQ'ers hope that some day it may go away.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Now one part of the blue post did stick out to me:

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This is at least the 3rd time I have seen a blue post make a vague hint that it may some day NOT be tolerated. Honestly though, its probably just something they all say to keep the nerdrage low, and give the QQ'ers hope that some day it may go away.

Nah, that's just boilerplate CYA from PR folks. They can't really speak in absolutes because they ALWAYS get burned when times/thegame/people/management change.

[Apps]

yeah, I agree. If you'll notice, even when a blizzard rep is commenting on behalf of he companys direction or belief, they will answer the subject, then give a pause to take it back later. Seems like standard practice.

[Igg]

Well I've always tried to quit wow unsuccessfully but the day they ban multiboxing is the day I quit for good lol.

Once you MB, you can't go back.

[Tonuss]

This is at least the 3rd time I have seen a blue post make a vague hint that it may some day NOT be tolerated. Honestly though, its probably just something they all say to keep the nerdrage low, and give the QQ'ers hope that some day it may go away.
If there is anything that Blizzard has learned over the past few years, it is to avoid making absolute statements. They were pretty adamant about certain things (PVE-->PVP transfers, for example) that they wound up changing later, and they realized at some point that pretty much anything in the game can change. So they try to add disclaimers more often.

But it just reinforces what I said, that Blizzard is fine with multiboxing and the current objections to it are irrelevant. Stuff like "it is against the TOS" or "it's automation because I said so" or "it's one player with 5x the power and that's cheating" and similar arguments won't work. If Blizzard ever bans it, it will be for some other reason. Personally, I don't see it happening because Blizzard seemed to have covered every possible complaint. If there was some new and valid reason against it, someone would've stumbled onto it already, and that hasn't happened.