Anyone been successful in soloing BoT trash for epics?

[Shodokan]

I have yet to try, was wondering if anyone else has and if it was successful or a waste of time. Drops are about a 15% per mob to actually drop an epic and they sell for between 20 and 40k on most servers.

I did this with ICC and was wondering if anyone has been successful with 5 toons at doing this, even if it isn't all the pulls.

[calyco27]

15% drop chance per mob, and min of 20k.. thats an minimum average of 3k gold per mob. That's defiantly worth doing! Heck even if you only kill 1 mob a time before a wipe.. How much is it going to cost to repair for a single death per toon? not 3 grand that's for sure. and being trash not a boss it will respawn. Do an instance or 2 while you wait for it to respawn. easy gold.

[Shodokan]

15% drop chance per mob, and min of 20k.. thats an minimum average of 3k gold per mob. That's defiantly worth doing! Heck even if you only kill 1 mob a time before a wipe.. How much is it going to cost to repair for a single death per toon? not 3 grand that's for sure. and being trash not a boss it will respawn. Do an instance or 2 while you wait for it to respawn. easy gold.

You can reset it and it will spawn again, just like sunwell/icecrown.

[Toned]

This has been on my list of shit to do... I haven't tried it either, but I suspect even just getting 1 drop you will have made up any lost time/repair bills :)

[Mosg2]

Void and myself were able to solo the trash with our DK's before we even had the Conquest weapons. It was not fun, super stressful, full of wipes and generally irritating but doable.

[Multibocks]

Is this trash similar to BH trash? The kind that one hits tanks if every single person in raid isn't stacked?

[Reprisal]

Well, I just spend the last hour farming trash in there. I did the first 4 pull, then pulled the groups of 8 mobs on each side. Killed about npcs 50 total, no epics, about 15-20g per mob, 5 greens and a lot of cloth and grays. You can cc all the mobs besides the twilight soul blades.

[Toned]

Get a job or farm me more guild exp!...

[Klesh]

Drops are about a 15% per mob to actually drop an epic


Ya, sure, and most of us get epics by just entering the instance...

[Shodokan]

Ya, sure, and most of us get epics by just entering the instance...

Check drop tables before making smart ass remarks please.

[Klesh]

Says the one using stupid WoWhead drop percentages... lol

But wait, the AH is flooded with hundreds of BoE epics at less than 1k each, so you must be right. Or not?

[Shodokan]

Says the one using stupid WoWhead drop percentages... lol

But wait, the AH is flooded with hundreds of BoE epics at less than 1k each, so you must be right. Or not?

Server dependence and not all of the items are good, like the stupid cloth pants or w/e it is. And if they are under 1k then your server has NO IDEA wtf it is doing with it's economy.

zone drop epics have always had about a 10% drop rate from mobs, dating back to before sunwell trash runs were big. Can you hit a dry spree of items? Sure you can.

[Kicksome]

There are no epics (aside from like spell thread) on the alliance side less than 4k - and those are all crafted - most of the crafted are closer to 6- 8k. Any world or trash drops are in the 10k - 50k range on Kil'Jaden alliance.

[Overpowerdin]

Server dependence and not all of the items are good, like the stupid cloth pants or w/e it is. And if they are under 1k then your server has NO IDEA wtf it is doing with it's economy.

zone drop epics have always had about a 10% drop rate from mobs, dating back to before sunwell trash runs were big. Can you hit a dry spree of items? Sure you can.

Oh, I am quite sure you will make another thread to answer your own question the in form of a gold making guide.....

[crowdx]

What iLvl epics are we talking here? My server is selling any ilvl 264 or below for less that 1k. Only the Cataclysm epics are selling for more and even those have started to drop fast, there is nothing on the AH selling for 30k.
I am on US Uther and even the eternal airs are now starting to drop through the floor price wise.

[Kicksome]

We're all talking 85 level epics I believe. The level 80 epics are on firesale.

[zipzip]

I think there's some miscommunication happening. To clarify, at least how I understand it, I believe Klesh is being sarcastic with this remark:


But wait, the AH is flooded with hundreds of BoE epics at less than 1k each, so you must be right. Or not?

Klesh believes the drop rates are lower than 15%, and he's claiming that if it was near that percentage BoE's would be much lower in price (like around 1k). But because they're so expensive, Klesh is assuming the drop rate must be much lower.


fwiw, I think even with a 15% droprate prices on the AH will be multiple thousand k gold for awhile, Klesh. Why? Most BoEs wouldn't make it from the raid to the AH, since guilds give the BoEs to people in their raid that want them in order to gear up the group faster. It's like you are assuming that every BoE that drops gets sold on the AH, which is really, really far from the truth at the beginning of an expac.

[crowdx]

Back on topic then, has anyone been able to 5 man the trash? Considering how hard some of the heoric thrash hits, I am thinking a team would need a really well geared tank.

[EaTCarbS]

My guess is that it wont be 5-mannable until the next content patch when we all outgear it.

[Volch0k]

We made about 9 epics, with me tanking, with four shamans, and 5 guildies. 3 hours farming. On my server we could sell all for about 160k, so nice amount of gold - considering we could have done it with less people.
I was able to solo the first pack and the patrols, but it sure takes time and it's not easy (I havent been mulitboxing at 85 at all really, so green gear and shit..)

Hex four, and nuke the add up, regen mana, blabla...

[zipzip]

I'm certainly going to try once I have mostly epics on my tank, and my dps are burning things down relatively quickly. With CC, perhaps only 1-2 guys would need to be tanked at any given time.

Currently I only have 3 level 359s items on my tank, so it may be awhile for me...

[Volch0k]

Cleared the first pack 3-4 times, and just got epic staff. It sells instantly for 20k on my realm.
And yeah, might add that my tanks is practicly full 359 :/

Alltho, I'm running four elemental, with a dedicated healer this might be...well I don't know, a lot easier?

[EaTCarbS]

If people are doing it with 5, then us larger scale boxers should have no problems :)

[Mickthathick]

We have been done this a few times as a guild on off raid nights to gear the team and to refill the gbank repair fund.

Our best run netted us 4 ilevel 359 epics (including my tanking shoulders), most runs netted 0-1. As there were 10 of us we were clearing the trash up to Halfus in about 15mins if no one was fucking around.

Another excellent place to farm for epics is the trash after Magmaw/Omnitron. There are 3 mini bosses + trash which have a chance to drop boes, apparently there also boes that drop which aren't on Wowhead loot tables yet. This trash is a little tricker though, nothing can be cced and one mob group type requires a tank on the main mob and another tank on his untauntable 2 adds.

[Reprisal]

Wow, talk about luck, I had the epic staff and an epic pair of mail pants drop in the first 15 minutes... I play a pally and 4 shaman, their item levels are around 356. I kill the first pack of 4, the two side packs of 8 and I kill the two patrolling packs if hex holds until I can recast it, but I normally don't bother and reset it.

Edit: I just cleared the first room, and even the two soul blades in the hallway to the next room (had to bloodlust and use elementals). I doubt I could have done it without 4 cc's though, and the hex glyph helped out a lot. On the Soul Blades I spread my guys out and only moved them when a guy had two vortexes under him. The casters need at least 2 interrupts, I ended up using 3 to make it really easy. The rest are just tank and spank, nothing hits that hard and you never have to fight more than one mob at a time, except for the casters, which you only have to fight 4 and the grounding totems absorb their spells making them really easy too.

[Volch0k]

I've been doing this for cash, and prolly got around 20 epics so far, wich all sold easily. this is insane for gold. However, my paladin being saved in BoT normally each wednesday (this week it was sunday, so I farmed alot before this).

However, I have a DK tank, but he's just taking to much damage from the soul blade guys. Any suggestions?

The problem being ; I have to heal him to often, thus reduing my shamans dps to much (running 4 elemental)

[Reprisal]

Wow, been farming it for about 3 hours so far today. The tanking shoulders, gun, thrown, staff and the mail legs dropped, it's getting kind of ridiculous. Takes me about 25 minuets to clear to the first boss

[Volch0k]

Wow, been farming it for about 3 hours so far today. The tanking shoulders, gun, thrown, staff and the mail legs dropped, it's getting kind of ridiculous. Takes me about 25 minuets to clear to the first boss

Can you please explain to me, how exactly you do it? Just curious, if there is something very obvious I'm missing...struggling doing it with my DK..

[Zugdud]

For those of you 5 boxing this, how much CC do you find is necessary for success here? I only have 1 hex on my team, so I'm wondering if I would be able to survive tanking the entire pack minus one?

I suppose I can just give it a few tries and see what happens :D

[Reprisal]

I've explained how I do it before. I have 4 cc's so I never have to fight more than one mob at a time, except for the groups of casters, which hit for nothing and grounding totems absorbe their spells and the last two twilight soul blades at the end, which I bloodlust and elemental for. Your tank is probably just undergeared. My pally and 4 shams average around 355 item level.

[Volch0k]

For those of you 5 boxing this, how much CC do you find is necessary for success here? I only have 1 hex on my team, so I'm wondering if I would be able to survive tanking the entire pack minus one?

I suppose I can just give it a few tries and see what happens :D

No way you can survive with 1 permaCC.

[Reprisal]

No way you can survive with 1 permaCC.

Agreed, I honestly don't think I could do it without 4 ccs and when one breaks early or gets resisted I usually throw town earth elementals and run out of the instance to reset.

[Malgor]

Don't try this without at least three ways to CC.

[Igg]

What are the chances of 6 ppl doing this successfully? ilvl 355 paly tank, 4 ilvl 346+ shamans and 1 geared priest healer?

[zipzip]

Definitely doable. I've been doing it a bit with 6; I've had a lot of wipes, but most of that is because I use fear for one of my CCs.

Pally tank
2x destro lock
1x elemental shammy
1x resto shammy
1x resto druid

Just have two healers and you'll be fine. The ONLY times I wipe are when the locks' fears break (I have both locks casting on the same mob for the first group of 4). With 3-4 hexes it would be no problem at all.

I can't survive long if two are up, so for me the key is to only fight one at a time. If i can do that, it's easy. If I can't, it's nearly impossible. Also, my guys aren't nearly that geared...my tank is still using 325 green legs. I do have 4 epics on my tank, but still...lots of 316 blues and 339 pvp gear.


edit: I also think the first group of 4 and possibly the groups of 5 would be trivial with just 5 people with enough hex/sheep. As long as you can fight only 1 mob at a time, it is easy to survive.

[Noids]

How quickly do you down a group with the 4 x cc method. Just wondering if its worth going in there with the frosty DKs. I know they don't have single target CCs but I normally just cc goups with hungering cold and round robin it. Doing this and without resists I can get 40s of cc to kill 4 out of 5 mobs. I guess the other option would be to run 4 DW blood DKs? Should really get my ass into gear and get in and have a look I suppose :P

[Volch0k]

The market for these epics on my server has completly crashed atm. People don't buy it, even if you sell it cheap. Prices are going down very fast, I'm just very glad I've made 400+ k on this so far.

[Toned]

When the market hits rock bottom and you can't sell can always use the shards ><

Or server move a toon to another server loaded with epics to sell. After you sell those and move your gold back :)

[Shodokan]

The market for these epics on my server has completly crashed atm. People don't buy it, even if you sell it cheap. Prices are going down very fast, I'm just very glad I've made 400+ k on this so far.

I have too much gold i haven't even bothered with this... plus DKs + holy pally can't do it lol

[zipzip]

Good news and bad news from me regarding farming.

The good news is that I've been able to do the first group of 4 with as few as 4 toons. pally tank, 1x destro warlock, 2x resto shaman. Easy as pie with enough CC and doing them 1 at a time. My tank is alright, but nothing special...only 5 epics.

The bad news is that I haven't gotten a single epic off of them. Probably just bad RNG, but I have killed at least 100 NPCs, so although they can drop epics, I wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed the droprate.

[Toned]

The droprate is still high the epic market on the otherhand...

[Apps]

ok, so Single boxing right now, with level 12 guild. avg Gear iLevel is 350 per toon. We clear trash to Halfus every night. 6 days a week, seeing ~ 6-10 epics per week. Drop rate is 15.2% based upon some comments from official forums. Selling these epics has been challenging. We are to the point where we just shard them. Shards sell faster.