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Toned
12-21-2010, 04:26 AM
Heroic Halls of Origination (http://www.wowhead.com/zone=4945)

Temple Guardian Anhuur - Dps down in the stair well. Move out of fires...DISPELL the debuff.
During phase 2 move all 5 guys down to the first lever pickup all the snakes and leave 1 char behind to click the lever. Move the remaining 4 over to lever 2
and kill adds while a 2nd toon clicks lever 2. Move char 1 that clicked the first lever up ASAP (ghost wolf ftw or warlock blink)... Once you have downed the snakes interrupt the boss with the char up top.
Drop down autofollow back to the stair well and repeat. This boss is a bitch .... he's a cock block for the others.


Earthrager Ptah - basically the same as normal. Dodge the shit on the ground dps the boss... kill the adds loot. Very simple.

Anraphet - The room is massive use it to your advantage. When he cast Alpha beam just run and don't stop untill he finishes casting. (There will be balls of death on the ground where alpha beam hit so avoid them again the room is massive).
Dispell the tank debuff. AOE heal through the Omega Stance (single resto shaman chain heals shold be enough). Repeat and loot. It is pretty easy once you get the alpha beam part down.

Ammunae <Construct of Life> - Dps him down and kill the seedlings as soon as they spawn. That's it.

Rajh <Construct of the Sun> Dodge the cyclones, interrupt the orb, dodge the leap... aoe heal through the sunstorm. During the sunstorm blow all big cooldowns elementals, lust, etc... DPS hard. Very easy if you get a good sunstorm phase he should be at like 1mill health.
Repeat and loot.

Setesh <Construct of Destruction> - KILL THE PORTALS and kite the constructs with your tank. DPS the boss hard and stand in the orb if possible for more dps.

Isiset <Construct of Magic> - Dps the adds, Dps the boss, keep moving from that shit on the ground that hurts. Mouse broadcast mouse look away during supernova. Focus fire 1 add only during the split. Repeat Loot.









http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bDz9k38TEOU/TRBkbU6KjRI/AAAAAAAAFnE/9dEaTNTNoz8/s800/WoWScrnShot_122010_235438.jpg - Bad Screenshot sorry

Kicksome
12-21-2010, 02:19 PM
Damn man, nice job. I have to try this. I couldn't get past the first boss on normal.

Toned
12-21-2010, 05:48 PM
Normal the switches click fast use the same strategy that I posted for heroic to practice I guess.

Teslah
12-22-2010, 09:37 AM
Normal the switches click fast use the same strategy that I posted for heroic to practice I guess.

Can you fraps this? It would help to see you in action doing it solo to get a feel for how you are doing some of the fights.

jethro16
12-22-2010, 10:03 PM
Thanks for posting this. I've been having a rough time with that first boss also. Off to give it another shot!

Enoah35
12-23-2010, 04:12 AM
I have not done the heroic mode yet. But on normal I simply use my tank to trigger the switch, using cooldowns to not take alot of damage, while my shaman and priest group heals the aoe. No I don't kill any snakes, I bring them with me and aoe down where my group are stationed (usualy in the stairs). I first trie with all dps and healer and tank stationed on ramp but they took too much damage and it took far more than my tank.

Update: just did on heroic and wow... first boss is a pain in the ass. The fact that those snakes have 75k hp each, taking 10 sec to activate the bloody lever is killing me, and no I can't heal through that unless I am fast. Have to do some more practice... (5 wipes and counting before I had to go to family dinner).

Kalros
12-24-2010, 11:59 PM
Ok, been trying this for days, and I just cannot get that first boss. Toned, any chance you can post some screenshots of exactly where you place your Tank/DPS? Do you spread them out? Because when I bunch them all up in that small little stairway, they get eaten alive by that damn ground flame before I can even get them out of it. Any additional info you can give would be greatly appreciated!

Toned
12-25-2010, 05:27 AM
I just stack down in the stair well. Tank on the right corner shamans in the top left. You have to strafe as soon as you see the blue shit. You'll almost always take about 20k per toon it's pretty lame.

pinotnoir
12-26-2010, 01:46 AM
The first boss is next to impossible. I would say impossible but you found a way to do it. I tried for 2hrs and cannot get past the first lever phase without dying. My gear level is in the 330+ range and heroics are so freaking hard its not even funny. Some trash hits so hard I can cc two of them and still struggle to keep my tank alive spamming greater heal. There is nothing fun about this. Yesterday it took me 5hrs to finish Heroic SFK. Thats just silly.

Kalros
12-26-2010, 07:03 AM
The first boss is next to impossible. I would say impossible but you found a way to do it. I tried for 2hrs and cannot get past the first lever phase without dying. My gear level is in the 330+ range and heroics are so freaking hard its not even funny. Some trash hits so hard I can cc two of them and still struggle to keep my tank alive spamming greater heal. There is nothing fun about this. Yesterday it took me 5hrs to finish Heroic SFK. Thats just silly.

Its mostly a matter of gear. My guys are now in about half 333 and about half 346/359 gear. I've noticed a considerable difference, especially with trash between now and when I first started Heroics. Best advice I can give, gear-wise, is start grinding the Cataclysm reps. You get 346 gear at Revered and 359s at Exalted.

As far as the first boss here goes, yeah, he's a bitch. STILL cannot do him myself either. Just gonna wait until I have even better gear.

Toned
12-27-2010, 06:02 AM
The first boss is next to impossible. I would say impossible but you found a way to do it. I tried for 2hrs and cannot get past the first lever phase without dying. My gear level is in the 330+ range and heroics are so freaking hard its not even funny. Some trash hits so hard I can cc two of them and still struggle to keep my tank alive spamming greater heal. There is nothing fun about this. Yesterday it took me 5hrs to finish Heroic SFK. Thats just silly.


Re-evaluate your setup, because SFK at that gear level should take you like an hour or so.

What setup are you running now still ele x4 + pal?

pinotnoir
12-27-2010, 10:24 AM
My setup is Pally, Priest, Lock, Mage, Shaman. The first boss of Halls is impossible for me right now.

Toned
12-27-2010, 05:57 PM
Your warlock portal makes interrupting him pretty easy. Have your lock click the first switch. Then port up top. Rain of fire the snakes that are on the rest of your group if possible.

Have one of your other dps click then 2nd switch soon as you get those 4 there. Be killing the adds with your Tank + Healer + 1 Dps + Lock Rain of Fire from above.

After 2nd switch is down finish off the snakes the best you can and make your way to the stairwell. Use the lock to interrupt the boss and then get to the stairwell... Finish up any snakes that are left before the boss gets there.

This boss is definately not easy. I'd suggest you farm Vortex Pinnacle, SFK, BRC to get your gear up first.

Kicksome
12-28-2010, 12:55 AM
Toned, thanks so much for the strats. I never though I'd be able to do it. Tokov helped me heal this one, but man, I needed it. So I tanked and dps'd, Tokov healed.

http://kicksome.com/origin.jpg

Toned
12-28-2010, 07:07 PM
Yay I knew you could do it.

I've been working on some other zones. When I get some new full clears with easy to follow strats I'll post.

olibri1
12-30-2010, 01:35 PM
Its mostly a matter of gear. My guys are now in about half 333 and about half 346/359 gear. I've noticed a considerable difference, especially with trash between now and when I first started Heroics. Best advice I can give, gear-wise, is start grinding the Cataclysm reps. You get 346 gear at Revered and 359s at Exalted.

As far as the first boss here goes, yeah, he's a bitch. STILL cannot do him myself either. Just gonna wait until I have even better gear.
I just wanted to highlight this statement: This all gets MUCH easier with gear. In particular if you can focus on your healer you will see a big difference.

Toned
12-30-2010, 05:17 PM
Gear your Tank First your Healer 2nd DPS last... Little opposite of the norm... Healers gear pretty much decides most fights. Having a geared tank also makes the healers mana go further :)

pinotnoir
12-30-2010, 06:43 PM
Gear your Tank First your Healer 2nd DPS last... Little opposite of the norm... Healers gear pretty much decides most fights. Having a geared tank also makes the healers mana go further :)

My tank is up to i346 now. As the tank gets more powerful it gets easier. I agree gear the tank first.

remanz
02-01-2011, 02:42 PM
Need a little help on the melee group vs the first boss.

Divine Reckoning : is this the dot that I have to cleanse ? Or it heals the boss back to full ? or It heals the boss anyway regardless if I cleanse it or not.

I am running with rets can't really dispel anything. If cleanse is required, then I have to switch to a holy paladin. Also I was thinking, what happen if I drag him down to the stairs? So I am closer to the switches. OR I have to fight him on 2nd floor.

Dorffo
02-27-2011, 04:27 PM
Need a little help on the melee group vs the first boss.

Divine Reckoning : is this the dot that I have to cleanse ? Or it heals the boss back to full ? or It heals the boss anyway regardless if I cleanse it or not.

I am running with rets can't really dispel anything. If cleanse is required, then I have to switch to a holy paladin. Also I was thinking, what happen if I drag him down to the stairs? So I am closer to the switches. OR I have to fight him on 2nd floor.

Thats the one that you need to cleanse or it heals him up - once I got the cleansing under control the fight became reasonable.

angeldeelite
02-27-2011, 06:24 PM
Normal the switches click fast use the same strategy that I posted for heroic to practice I guess.

What's the difference with clicking the switches in heroic from normal?
Just my girls (well the 3 DPS) can't get into heroics as there gear lvl isn't good enough yet
But I ROFLED all over this place on normal, that first boss is a joke! Move out of the damage, run my tank to both switches and back and soon as his shield
Is down pop BL and nuke! Granted it will for sure be harder on heroic but in normal I don't CC at all and the only hard boss is that shadow one, the optional one!

pearldrake999
02-27-2011, 09:18 PM
A nice little fact I noticed for temple Guardian Anhuur.
The blue flames seems to target as soon the a previous blue flame goes out. So, if you move as soon as the first flame goes out, you can dodge it before you see it.

Khatovar
02-28-2011, 04:14 AM
What's the difference with clicking the switches in heroic from normal?
Just my girls (well the 3 DPS) can't get into heroics as there gear lvl isn't good enough yet
But I ROFLED all over this place on normal, that first boss is a joke! Move out of the damage, run my tank to both switches and back and soon as his shield
Is down pop BL and nuke! Granted it will for sure be harder on heroic but in normal I don't CC at all and the only hard boss is that shadow one, the optional one!


The switches aren't instant in heroic, they have a cast time that gets pushed back by damage taken.

angeldeelite
02-28-2011, 09:47 AM
The switches aren't instant in heroic, they have a cast time that gets pushed back by damage taken.

Ahh that will be where the "this boss is a bitch" comes from then lol

mmmbox
02-28-2011, 05:56 PM
snakes do more dmg have more hp, also he stack a dmg debuff on you, during the switch phase.

one thing that is good to know is that when you engage him again he will drop the blue beam on you, its nice to know since this was acctually what whiped me most times when i ran to from my team with the tank to bring him, i didnt dodge the blue beam that hit imidiately after reengaging.

thing that requires some traning is micro managing the chars u use to turn the switches, i jump dowm with my full team gather the snakes with the tank, place one char to turn the switch which takes 10 secs, while this happens i run to other side with rest of team dpsing snakes and making sure i have them all with me, turn the 2nd switch while running with 1st char to rest of group.

run up, dps snakes, drop a heal on team, engage boss, move imidiately to dodge blue beam rinse and reapeat 2 times.

dead boss.

its much like a dance, 1 2 3 4 dps boss dps boss dps boss 1 2 3 4 dps boss dps boss --- boss dead

Kalros
07-01-2011, 10:45 AM
So it looks like with patch 4.2 there is a change to the first boss. Though I THINK it may just be a bug. Anyhoo, if you try to pull him down into a stairwell after the lever phase, he'll bug out, go into EVADE, and go back to full health, while still using his abilities on the group. If you wait, he eventually WILL pop into the stairwell, but with full health. So I'm now having to run the whole team back up to the walkway in front of him and pulling him. Its a pain in the ass because the team is almost dead at that point and its taking alot of mana doing group heals, etc. Its still do-able, but its much harder, and without all these 4.2 gear upgrades, it wouldnt have been possible for me. Just a heads-up. Hopefully they fix it soon.

Also, it may be my imagination, but the troggs in the gauntlet seem to be respawning a hell of a lot faster!

Klesh
07-02-2011, 04:58 AM
I always fight him up top. As soon as he shields himself, I jump down to either side of the stairs, range kill (to avoid getting poisoned with all toons) 2 or 3 snakes and click the lever with my tank. Then I move to the other side (stairs up and down again, takes a while but well) and do the same. When his shield is down I move back up to him.
His AoE stacks to 35 or so, nothing my Prayer of Healing couldn't handle though.

CokeZero
09-26-2011, 12:56 AM
Ok so I did the first boss on my first ever try lol. I was extremely lucky and finished him off with just my healer and tank standing. I wish I would of frapsed that fight but I never intended on actually getting him down. I didn't have time to try and finish the instance so I logged off happy for the night.

Next day I went back to give it another try, and wow...failed miserably lol. What was killing me was jumping off the platform, it just took too much damn health. And trying to pull the boss back to the stairs just felt awkward for me, I'm a noobish boxer as it is and trying to position the boss was something I just didn't like doing.

You can see in my video I just tanked him where he stood and ran back to the stairs then walk to the levers when he goes invulnerable. Waste of time but kept my health pool in check somewhat.I panicked at the end and finished him off this time with the tank and 1 dps standing lol. Not as awesome as my first try but funny still.

All this with 1 holy pally, 1 blood dk, and 3 frost dps dk. mostly 333 blues, couple justice epics, and the CoC 333 wepaons ;p . And my macros are by far not very optimal because I'm just lazy when it comes to tinkering with Isboxer and redoing some keymaps and whatnot. Plus alot of the advanced setups I read about in the forums just give me a big headache when I think about trying to implement them lol.

I originally started the group with high hopes in PVP, but I took about a 7 month wow break. Trying to catch up to all the geared out people in BG's and arenas is just a bitch at this point, so I pretty much just focus on PvE now. I only do a couple BG's and arena to slowly work my way to better weapons, but thats about it. OK enough rambling, here is link to vid! Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97rJ4TyVlc8

APPARENTLY IM A NOOB POSTER TOO! I cant stop this post from showing as one big ass block of text, sorry maybe a moderator can fix it but i tried a couple times to break it up into paragraphs with no luck. I suck lol.

Bollwerk
09-26-2011, 02:26 PM
For what it's worth, I still can't kill the first boss here on Heroic, even with lots of 359 gear. I'm sure it's just a skill deficiency on my part. It just seems to take me ages to do the 2 levers and my resto shaman can't keep up with the healing. I end up almost dead on all 5 toons by the time I'm back up top after clicking levers and I just can't spread out again, interrupt boss, avoid blue flame, etc... fast enough.

remanz
09-26-2011, 07:20 PM
Well I don't care what others said. The first boss is not easy without 365 gears. It needs some skills if you don't have the class combo and gear. Shaman is weak in box AOE healing. Back then I did with all 5 melees, it was hard. and let me tell you I spent at least 5k Gold on each character for repairs on this guy. I used DK tank, Ret paladin, Arm Warrior, Enhance shaman, Holy Paladin.

the strategy only works for all melee group but the phase 2 snake pit should be the same:

1. you have to dispel the magic debuff. this is simple enough.

2. you have to know/predict when the blue flame will hit the area you are currently standing on. move before the flame hits. The flame doesn't hurt that much even when it hits. But you need to be full on HP when phase 2 comes. So if you get hit by the flame, and you are at 70%hp when phase 2 starts, you can forget it. reset needed.

3. A little skill required on this. For phase 2 when he starts to channel, you go down from the platform to the stairs. don't take falling damage. land on the stairs, not on the ground. Have tank (DK for me) pick up all snakes. Put down healing stream totem. Switch to another dps slave to channel pulling the switch. at the same time started healing group on your healer. you can mash your DPS keys fine during this time as the dps slave who is channling won't break. AOE kill the snakes. Everyone should be at full when you finish 1 side. Repeat for the other side. When you finish both sides, your group should be at full since you are always healing when the dps slave is pulling the switch. Now finish the snakes and run upstairs. Don't let the snakes attack you all the way. Earthbind + Magma.

4. for second round, you do the same thing. During the run for upstairs, use everything you got to stay alive. Drink a pot, use defensive CD (Divine Sacrifice-30% on group), whatever you can. Then remember to dodge blue flame again to finish the boss.

Cptan
09-26-2011, 10:49 PM
For what it's worth, I still can't kill the first boss here on Heroic, even with lots of 359 gear. I'm sure it's just a skill deficiency on my part. It just seems to take me ages to do the 2 levers and my resto shaman can't keep up with the healing. I end up almost dead on all 5 toons by the time I'm back up top after clicking levers and I just can't spread out again, interrupt boss, avoid blue flame, etc... fast enough.

I have a holy priest for healing, but back when the team was weak, I switched the ele shaman to resto for double healing, and it works. Killing is slower but HP is gained back faster, and the fight becomes less stressful.