[ISBoxer] Click Healing+, without addons (IMAGES ADDED by REQ)

[ZorbaTheGeek]

I’m sure that by now we are all aware of Aragents work on the generic dps macros. I’ve been using something similar myself for a while with the aim to both remove my hotbuttons from the game and simplfy multi-group setup. One of the issues is always how to reduce the per-toon configuration and instead bring those settings into a generic, one fits all, group.

I’m a user of click healing and have, until recently been running Pitbull unit frames with clique and a repeater region. However, clique requires per toon/account setup for spells to cast on a click as do most of the similar addons.

Enter the click bar.


Click bars allow click healing without the use of repeater regions. By using a generic set of [@mouseover] macros we can run ATG and Toon name conditionals (and in ISBoxer 38) can run round robins on the ATG for teams with multiple healers.


Configuration:
For starters, make an ATG called “Click Healers” and add any toons you want to be click healers. It wont matter what team they are in, this is all about going generic.

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Next, we need some keymappings for the heals. I created a new keymap “Click Heals” just to keep them all in one place, but you could just as easily add them in “General”. Don't forget to drag the charactersets you want to use the clickbar down to the keymap too or they'll not get access to the heals.

I created keymaps for “Small Heal”, “Big Heal”, “Oh S--t” and “HoT”. The names really are arbitrary and depend on how you like your click heals setup.

For each keymap create:

Action “Sync Cursor” target “Group (others in) Click Healers"
“WoW Macro Action” target “Group (all of) Click Healers” - Give this a keybind, so you don’t forget, we’ll return to the macros later.

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The first action will pop the cursor over the unit frame we just clicked on. If you’ve only one healer in a team then the second action will work fine as is. When ISB 38 is released you can check the new “Round Robin” checkbox for RR Click heals.


EDIT: Due to an oddity on the way ISBoxer sends a mouse sync, it's necessary to check a setting on the keymaps to ensure things happen in the right order.
So go to the keymap and ensure that "Hold any Keystroke Actions while Hotkey is held is "On"

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Next we need our click bar. I’m going to use two regions here, but you could run more or just one.

Create a new click bar, call it “Click Healing”
My party frames are in a horizontal arrangement so set the “Grid” to 2x1. Giving us two small buttons, one above the other.

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Add a character set to this click bar, export to innerspace and run the charset or a single toon (if you only want the bars on your main).

Once you’re logged in, open the Innerspace console (“CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+G” by default) and drag the buttons to align with the top left corner of your party frames click “Save” in the”Click Bars” section of “ISBoxer Control Panel” frame and close the console with the innerspace hotkey.

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Now we need a little guesswork. Leaving the WoW sessions running tab back into ISBoxer and adjust the “Cell” settings to enlarge the buttons, first setting is width, second is height and keep re-exporting to innerspace to see the changes. Do this until the buttons cover the unitframes in a way you are happy with.

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Back in ISBoxer, click on the first button and a new box will appear on the right for whichever mouse button you just used. Click the little “<” and choose one of our new keymappings, say “Small Heal” in “Click Heals” set target to “Self” the actual targetting is handled by our keymaps.

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Do this for each keymapping/mouse button you want to use.

I also generally add a "SHIFT-left mouse" and "SHIFT-Right mouse" and assign them keymaps which send the relevant mouse button to a target of "Window Current". This allows me to SHIFT-Click through the clickbar onto the mains untiframes and perform their normal function, but you may just prefer to leave a section of the frames uncovered.



The hard work is done now, all we need to do is go back to those macros. The only healers I currently run are shaman and druids so I’ll give one macro as an example, I’m sure people here can help build a library of heals for the other classes.



/stopcasting
!if (character in “Shaman”) /cast [@mouseover] healing wave
!if (character in “Druid”) /cast [@mouseover] regrowth


/stopcasting will force our healer to stop DPS if that’s what he’s doing and cast whatever spell has been assigned. I don’t think ATGs need to be as accurate as “Shaman - Resto” etc as no toon will cast unless it’s in the “Click Healers” ATG anyway.



This, especially with the round robin functions in ISBoxer 38, can be as powerful and configurable as you want it and it’s not limited to heals. Any keymap can be run from a click, do what you like with them, I just added CTRL-CLICK for Battle-Rez on my Druid team.

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EDITED to mention adding characterset to click heal keymap

[Iru]

Sounds cool but would you mind including a screen shot so the instructionally impaired can make sense of this?

[Bollwerk]

Sounds cool but would you mind including a screen shot so the instructionally impaired can make sense of this?Yes please!!!

[propagandalf]

Thanks, this looks cool! If you only have one healer, and don't need the round robin functionality, you don't need ISBoxer 38, right?

Also, do all of the party frames on all your toons need to be exactly the same? I'm guessing the new clickbars you create need to overlay your party frames on each of your session windows... or am I understanding this wrong?

[ZorbaTheGeek]

Everything except the Round Robin works under 37, yes.

You can have the click bars on the whole team (drag a characterset in) or individual toons (I only drag my tanks in).

As long as you click bar(s) overlay your unit frames they can be any pattern you like (but you'll still need to actually click the frame, and the layout needs to be the same on the healer). The basic behaviour is simliar to a repeater region but with significant advantages.

[naPS]

Would it be possible to label the buttons with the toon names, and possibly color them by class? Only reason I ask is that I keep Grid all the way at the bottom of the screen on my main, and don't really want to mess with my layout too much. If I could have a separate system that's only there when I have ISBoxer loaded, that would be amazing.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Ya know, I don't usually mind creating macros to heal per keybinds but things like this that make the macro creation process very generic are weakening my resistance to switching to ISBoxer.

[ZorbaTheGeek]

Would it be possible to label the buttons with the toon names, and possibly color them by class? Only reason I ask is that I keep Grid all the way at the bottom of the screen on my main, and don't really want to mess with my layout too much. If I could have a separate system that's only there when I have ISBoxer loaded, that would be amazing.

This is just two hugely wide buttons covering the unit frames. On the second shot you can see the names and class colours of my Quad box team through them:
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The shading, which you can add in the click buttons option panel, just help to remind me that top buttons (blue tint) are "I'm in control" heals and the (red tint) are my "Oh S--t" heals. EDIT: The red bar looks transparent because it actually covers my cast bars, and of course, in the screenshot I'm not casting.

The click bars don't act as buttons as such. You click them, which send a keybind, but the target is the underlying unit frame. Since you can see the unit frame through the button you don't need to do anything.

Click bars used like this are a sort of grey area in ISBoxer, they act like repeater regions (they sync the slave window cursor), but only at the instant you click it. The cursor then stays in this new position, invisibly, until you move it again. The macro in the keymap (tied to the click button) targets [@mouseover] which is effectively the unit under the new cursor position.

I hope that clarifies things a bit.

[naPS]

It does, for sure. I guess the only disadvantage would be the amount of screen real estate it takes up. My current unit frames are very small, putting several buttons on them would be difficult. That's why I was asking about the possibility of shading them, or potentially using some other unit frames below them on a different part of the screen so that I do not have to mess with my default grid set up.

I guess I could re-enable the party frames in Pitbull. Since the only time I'm going to multibox is in 5 mans. That should provide a large enough area for me to do this.

[ZorbaTheGeek]

naPS, your other option would be to use a single button and increase the number of keymappings. You don't need to limit yourself to just right and left click, ISBoxer should recognise mouse buttons up to 5, the mouse wheel press and you can always use SHIFT/ALT/CTRL in any combo you wish.

My reasons for using two buttons was to remove the need for holding a modifier, but if you need more functions than you have mouse buttons I'd assume you're holding a modifier anyway.

Equally, there's no reason that the buttons on different toons need to do the same thing (each toon could have it's own clickbar configuration).

[Multibocks]

bumping this so I can find it easier.

edit: actually I dont understand why you are covering your cast bar with a click bar. Wouldn't you just need one overlay instead of 2x1? If its your oh shit heal, then why isn't it covering the unit frames of the party members??

[ZorbaTheGeek]

bumping this so I can find it easier.

edit: actually I dont understand why you are covering your cast bar with a click bar. Wouldn't you just need one overlay instead of 2x1? If its your oh shit heal, then why isn't it covering the unit frames of the party members??

The Cast bars ARE part of the Pitbull unit frames (and work as you expect when clicked), I only mentioned it as they are transparent when not casting.

[sp0000n]

I stopped using Pitbull a little while ago and don't want to go back. What's the best way to use Stuf with something like this? Since the party frames are handled separatley instead of together, they can't be ordered alphabetically. Is there a way to account for this in ISBoxer or do I have to support with Grid still?

[Multibocks]

alright I copied everything you did exactly except my macros are just for shaman, so no conditionals. I've checked it over a bunch of times and it still doesnt work. Do I need to add click heals key map to the character set?

I right click with mouse and nothing happens. =(

[ZorbaTheGeek]

I stopped using Pitbull a little while ago and don't want to go back. What's the best way to use Stuf with something like this? Since the party frames are handled separatley instead of together, they can't be ordered alphabetically. Is there a way to account for this in ISBoxer or do I have to support with Grid still?

Yup, you need the party frames in the same order across toons or this won't work. The spell target is the frame the mouse pointer is effectively "hovering" over at the moment you click.


alright I copied everything you did exactly except my macros are just for shaman, so no conditionals. I've checked it over a bunch of times and it still doesnt work. Do I need to add click heals key map to the character set?

You do need the to add the character set to the click heal keymap. Did I really forget to mention that?

[Multibocks]

Heh Im not good enough at ISBoxer to know what is necessary. So I can see the mouse pointers show up on the alts screens, but no spell is cast. I made it so the click bar only shows up on main, because the mail box icons are blocked by it =(

Should I switch it back and just get a mail addon?

edit: I'm using the blizzard raid frames if you were wondering.

[ZorbaTheGeek]

With the keymap selected (you have all the keymaps listed in the bottom left window) drag one of your character sets down from the top window and drop it into the character set section. That will add the keymap to the group.

[Multibocks]

Yay! I got it working!

Boo... I just realized my guys are all arrange differently so it heals random people =(

[Alge]

I can't seem to make a button with a width larger than 256. Is that a limitation of ISBoxer 37 that will be removed in ISBoxer 38?

Also, a tip for those wanting to get rid of the border of the click bar buttons. Create a PNG file with the colour and transparency you wish and use that for the button.

Alge

[ZorbaTheGeek]

I can't seem to make a button with a width larger than 256. Is that a limitation of ISBoxer 37 that will be removed in ISBoxer 38?e

To be honest I had forgotten that I had requested that change from Lax during my initial setup of these click bars, but yes, the limitation is removed in ISB 38.


Boo... I just realized my guys are all arrange differently so it heals random people

There are lots of unit frame replacements which allow you to order the toons alphabetically, it's a problem shared by normal regions too. Perhaps someone has a list they could share?

[Alge]

There are lots of unit frame replacements which allow you to order the toons alphabetically, it's a problem shared by normal regions too. Perhaps someone has a list they could share?

Both Pitbull and Grid allow this.

[Multibocks]

I love you guys!

One last question, is there a way to toggle the mouseover area? I can't get to my mail =(

[Alge]

One last question, is there a way to toggle the mouseover area? I can't get to my mail =(

Hit CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+G to bring up the ISBoxer Control Panel. Select the Click Bars tab. To the right of the little button labelled "Sync" is a small square button with a line at the top. Press this and it will roll up the click bar out of the way. Press the same button again to revert.

Though I would suggest moving your mail icon for a more permanent solution. How you do this is very dependent on how your UI is set up.

Alge

[ZorbaTheGeek]

I love you guys!

One last question, is there a way to toggle the mouseover area? I can't get to my mail =(

Make a new mapped key, ideally in the control keymap, and give it the action:

Click Heal Click Bar 'Toggle' -> all

(you can find this in New action -> Click bar actions -> New Click bar state action. Choose the bar you made, and select toggle from the drop down)

Bind a keystroke to this mapped key and you can instantly hide or show the click heal bar when you need it.

[Multibocks]

Thanks Zorba, you rock!

[Multibocks]

Zorba will this work if the character you are controlling is the heals? I have an all melee team and want to use your setup for easy click healing (instead of using another addon like clique). Does that work since the mouse is synced to the other screens?

[ZorbaTheGeek]

It should work in exactly the same way, even if you are playing from the healer.

You're right that the mouse is sync'd to the other windows, but it is sync'd to the mouse position on the main (that's the point) so if your main is the healer, the mouse must a;ready be correctly positioned. The way the bars are designed to work is that the mouse pointer is sync'd to be the same position on all windows and the heal macro is sent to the healer (by an ATG) with the target of mouseover (whatever the mouse pointer is currently hovering over).

Hope this clarifies things for you.

[Siaea]

Tagging so I can find it later. My repeater regions aren't precise enough apparently, so my paladin likes to take long walks across the room instead of healing.

[Multibocks]

Hmm I can't seem to make any hotkey that is any combination of Right Click to work. Any ideas? Hard when one of your buttons is useless =(

Also how do you use the Mouseover at bottom of click bar assignments?

[ZorbaTheGeek]

Multibocks:

I'm not sure I understand your questions.If you've set up the click bars in the way I suggested then the mouse clicks are only used as INPUTs to the clickbars with the OUTPUTs effectively being keystrokes (with an associated macro in the ISBoxer addon).

For example:

Left click sends "CTRL+H" to the healers window after syncing the mouse cursor position.
the ISBoxer addon has "CTRL+H" mapped to "/cast [@mouseover] heal".

If you're trying to use the mouse buttons as outputs and trying to use an ISBoxer keymap of "RIGHT CLICK" to "/cast [@mouseover] heal" I'd strongly advise you don't or you'll be trying to alter normal mouse behaviour inside the game.

I hope this helps.

[Multibocks]

No using right click as the physical key I press to cast a heal at mouseover target. The actual macro is keybound to Shift + F4 orsomething like that. Strangely it works on one team, bit not the other.

[Shania]

I want to try and implement this as I just added a priest to my group.

does anyone have healing priest macros for this they can list ?

[Khatovar]

Check the stickies. I saw one in the very first post of the sticky here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=33870)

[Shania]

The instructions seem nicely written and i do want too "try' to add this to use, i do have reading comprehension issues little more then most people sadly.


Once you’re logged in, open the Innerspace console (“CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+G” by default) and drag the buttons to align with the top left corner of your party frames

Party unit frames.... umm is this referring to the standard frames, where your protrait icons are for when your in a party ?
If so, does it have to be done that way?

Can the click bar area mouse over too click heals be placed on the jamba Team bar and positioned anywhere you want instead ? Top left is too far to reach too, unless most likely i am reading what was written wrongly ?

Basically I want too click heal my team from bottom right of my screen little above my bars.

[ZorbaTheGeek]

This won't work with the standard "WoW UI" party frames as they are not displayed in the same order across all sessions.

The reason we use addons, such as pitbull, to do this is that you can display all members (including "player") in the party and then sort them alphabetically. Once you're set up like this you'll get the same party display across all of your windows.

Technically, if you don't feel the need to see the actual health bars of the toon you are healing, you can place the clickbar area over anything that would normally allow you to target something by clicking, and, something that is displayed in the same position (and order) on all of your slaves.

I've not tried it with the Jamba display, but it's easy to test.

1) Clear your target.
2) Hover the mouse over the UI element you're thinking of using.
3) With the cursor still there type into chat "/target [@mouseover]"

If the target changes as expected, then everything should work fine.

=D

[eisenhorn]

I would like to say thanks for this thread. This has saved me loads of time in trying to figure out extra keys for healing or healbot. Nice and straight forward, with the control passed back to ISB. Great work!

[Shania]

Alright re-reading this topic again and again, let me see if I understand what this does and can/will do.

Could I create a grid of some sort with x amount of coloumns, and each one could cover my priest healers, spell healing abilities, like renew, power word shield, circle of healing, prayer of healing, flash heal and greater heal.

So then when I mouse over one of my teams toons, toon1 i can mouse over one of the coloums that was created for renew and just right click and it will heal with renew ?
Then still on toon1 mouse over next coloum that would have greater heal right click and it will greater heal ? SO i could have quite a varioud variety of healing available as I see fit but just need to mouse over the coloum with whatever heal it has created and always just right click it ?

No need too ctl click or shift click just a simple righ tclick over the appropriate healing column created ?

[Ualaa]

This is very much like using a Repeater Region.
And having an addon like Clique interpreting the click you make, to be a heal on the frame of the target you're clicking on.

The difference is the use of a Clickbar instead of a Repeater Region.
The Clickbar runs a mapped key when it is clicked upon.
And that mapped key does whatever heal.

So we don't need a Repeater Region.
And we only need an addon to display the team in the same relative order, across all screens.

[Shania]

The Clickbar runs a mapped key when it is clicked upon.
And that mapped key does whatever heal.

Rightio my slow brain to comprehend has woken up, going to give this a try tonight or tomorrow and see what happens.

[Shania]

Once you’re logged in, open the Innerspace console (“CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+G” by default) and drag the buttons to align with the top left corner of your party frames click “Save” in the”Click Bars” section of “ISBoxer Control Panel” frame and close the console with the innerspace hotkey.

I closed it by (“CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+G”)

Anyway I ended up with a black box oon my screen that overlapped and covered my grid lol
Was I meant to once the click bar was posiitoned closed the black click bar box ? cause it stayed on the screen and when I right clicked too cast greater healing nothing happened, but that could also be because I tried using grid and none of the toons were sorted the same on each window :/

Tried pitbull thats not for me, so ditched it.

I followed your instructions and 1) not sure why the click bar remained ontop of grid and black and if its meant to remain there and can be colourised or is suppose to only remain there while configuring the cell spaces etc.

[lilapril]

I'm currently using Vuhdo for my unit frames:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=318&stc=1&d=1304036561

I find it to be a ton easier to configure than anything other than healbot, but healbot doesn't have the option to sort players by name.

PS The screenshot is from a BG that I'm singleboxing

[Jafula]

I find it to be a ton easier to configure than anything other than healbot, but healbot doesn't have the option to sort players by name.



Yes, it does; well, I can get healbot to sort my 5 players in a group by name;

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php?p=295355&postcount=27

[Apps]

This thread broke my brain. I get the concept however.

right now, im using Keybinds along with mouse overs of the GridCustomLayouts and macros for target mouse over healing.

My question is... Are Click bars easier to heal with than what Im doing?

I.e. I mouse over a player on Grid, and press F1 for Flash of Light. or F2 or F3 etc etc.

[Alge]

The major benefit of click healing is that you can be spamming your 2-step macro keys (plus other stuff) with your left hand and do all your healing with the mouse in your right hand. The click bar version has the advantage over the repeater region version that it is less susceptible to interference from modifier keys and also allows you to use other keys as modifiers if you so wish.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well you can put a lot of keys if you run at 1920 X 1200, I have 20 different click spots on each of my guys and my UI is very sparse compared to most. You dont have to make them very large at all.

The black box with "word of glory" and a bunch of the Pal spells are all click for those spells.

http://samdeathwalker.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100&d=1288075447&cmps=1


I can't click heal on different guys during battle but thats the whole reason to use chain heal and restro shaman healing. So good for boxers.