View Full Version : SSD question ... for new build
Trushot
12-15-2010, 06:22 AM
is there an advantage to installing 6 64 gig SSD's with one instance of game on each over one really large SSD to fit well over 180 megs of 6 copies of game instances?
im trying to decide between 6 small SSD drives for one copy of game each or one large SSD to fit them all ?
any pros and cons of each way ??
I think im going to have an SSD drive just for my OS as well
MiRai
12-15-2010, 06:31 AM
is there an advantage to installing 6 64 gig SSD's with one instance of game on each over one really large SSD to fit well over 180 megs of 6 copies of game instances?
im trying to decide between 6 small SSD drives for one copy of game each or one large SSD to fit them all ?
any pros and cons of each way ??
I think im going to have an SSD drive just for my OS as well
Assuming, from your other thread, if you were going to convert from a hardware boxer to a software boxer using one machine,
what choice of software would you go with? If you chose ISBoxer I am 99.2584545% sure that you would need 1 SSD and 1
install [Only 99.2584545% because I don't play LOTRO and I may be wrong by .7415455%].
Trushot
12-15-2010, 06:34 AM
Assuming, from your other thread, if you were going to convert from a hardware boxer to a software boxer using one machine,
what choice of software would you go with? If you chose ISBoxer I am 99.2584545% sure that you would need 1 SSD and 1
install [Only 99.2584545% because I don't play LOTRO and I may be wrong by .7415455%].
cant be done in lotro has to be separate install for each instance you wish to run on same machine
so i have to have 6 separate installs on same PC for LOTRO
ISBOXER os what ill be using btw .. already bought it but wont need for a month or so til i get this built
but it has nothing to do with isboxer being able to make it happen its a lotro programing thing apparently
so with that said i wonder which would be better 6 single small SSDs or one very large SSD for all 6 instances which may top 200 gigs soon
any pros or cons of each way
MiRai
12-15-2010, 06:43 AM
cant be done in lotro has to be separate install for each instance you wish to run on same machine
so i have to have 6 separate installs on same PC for LOTRO
ISBOXER os what ill be using btw .. already bought it but wont need for a month or so til i get this built
but it has nothing to do with isboxer being able to make it happen its a lotro programing thing apparently
so with that said i wonder which would be better 6 single small SSDs or one very large SSD for all 6 instances which may top 200 gigs soon
any pros or cons of each way
Negative on multiple installs, "-usetdm" seems to be the answer to that.
http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=694
EDIT: Also perhaps the "-invoker" switch as well.
Trushot
12-15-2010, 07:07 AM
Negative on multiple installs, "-usetdm" seems to be the answer to that.
http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=694
EDIT: Also perhaps the "-invoker" switch as well.
unfortunately u cannot use DX 11 or even 10 with that workaround your stuck with DX 9 and LOTRO has some really neat 10 and 11 stuff now ( at least that is the way i read it before )
and i want my main to be able to see lotro in all its awesomesuaceness , so does anyone that knows hardware well enough know if there is a need to run 6 installs on smaller SSDs or all 6 on one big SSD?
adavantages or disadavantes to each? or does not matter?
MiRai
12-15-2010, 07:31 AM
unfortunately u cannot use DX 11 or even 10 with that workaround your stuck with DX 9
Is this official from Turbine or did you gather that from the video in the link? I'm just curious myself since I try to make
knowledgeable posts to help the users of this forum and I know very little about LOTRO. :) If you got that impression
from the video talking about DX9, that video was made before InnerSpace was DX11 capable.
ILikeTwins
12-15-2010, 10:52 AM
I like to use multiple drives because I feel like there is still a cost in access time to fetch the files so if you have multiples then you can do those fetches simultaneously. To be honest though the access times with controllers etc may be so minimal that in reality it doesn't matter. One way or the other may not be noticeable.
The only time I have really seen it matter is if you are going to put the drives into a raid array. Tomshardware.com did an article recently about raiding older ssd drives vs a larger capacity newer drive that may help. The newer drive actually came out on top. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-performance,2798.html
Cross-posted from my reply to your question on isboxer.com:
if i wish to be able to run with main in full DX11 am I stuck with 6 installs or to run inner space at all i have to have all on DX 9 ?... No.. that guide says DX9 because it's from before the DX11 support was added to Inner Space. The only difference for DX11 is that, currently, you need to be on the development build of Inner Space because the DX11 support has not been pushed to the live build. There is absolutely no difference between them as far as using multiple or single folders, and if you can run one in DX11 mode you might as well run them all in DX11 mode.
If you want to run DX11, follow the instructions here to switch to the dev build: http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=774
Then just switch the game to DirectX11 instead of DirectX9.
DirectX10 is NOT currently supported.
Sam DeathWalker
12-16-2010, 12:42 AM
Six (or 4 or 8) smaller in a Raid is obviously faster then one big one.
The same should hold true for 6 seperate. You have 6 times the controller chips, 6 times the data lines (although they all feed the same buss), 6 times the cache......
I can only see 6 small being faster then one big.
Trushot
12-16-2010, 03:55 AM
Six (or 4 or 8) smaller in a Raid is obviously faster then one big one.
The same should hold true for 6 seperate. You have 6 times the controller chips, 6 times the data lines (although they all feed the same buss), 6 times the cache......
I can only see 6 small being faster then one big.
what about this beast compared to six smaller ones with way less speed
i think im going to order this beast ...
OCZ IBIS 240 GB HSDL reads @ 740 MB/s and writes @ 720 MB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227648
unless you think it would be noticable different to get six small ones running at slower speeds by far
OCZ Vertex 2 60 GB x 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550
do you think i would notice much difference either way considering the big one is way faster?
if not one would sure be a lot more handy and clean looking in a case
Sam DeathWalker
12-16-2010, 04:06 AM
That is super nice for sure.
I doubt those 6 would be much if any faster then that nice big one, which as you say takes up a lot less space. The six small would be 360G vs 240G though ...
Either way you are doing good.
The single one would have more bragging rights though, you would probably be the first with it.
My ocz revo is 488MBS so yours will be well faster.
Trushot
12-16-2010, 04:37 AM
That is super nice for sure.
I doubt those 6 would be much if any faster then that nice big one, which as you say takes up a lot less space. The six small would be 360G vs 240G though ...
Either way you are doing good.
The single one would have more bragging rights though, you would probably be the first with it.
My ocz revo is 488MBS so yours will be well faster.
Ordered :)
Six (or 4 or 8) smaller in a Raid is obviously faster then one big one.
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Except that 6 (or 4 or 8) SSDs are going to fragment (and therefore degrade performance) faster due to the lack of TRIM aren't they?
Sam DeathWalker
12-21-2010, 12:17 AM
They have something that is not trim though
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?75773-Secure-Erase-TRIM-and-anything-else-Sandforce
Just endless argument, to me bottem line is not to worry about it.
Sajuuk
12-22-2010, 01:23 AM
Except that 6 (or 4 or 8) SSDs are going to fragment (and therefore degrade performance) faster due to the lack of TRIM aren't they?
fragmentation on an SSD? wat? No.
While 6 smaller SSDs will be faster than one, they may be limited by other factors.
As far as LOTRO, haven't you experimented with symlinks? Why couldn't you do six folders with the main data folders symlinked into one?
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