Jamba development - requests wanted

[Jafula]

I have a few days free to work on Jamba. If you really want something fixed or added, now is the time to ask.

Current open issues are listed here:

http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/jamba/tickets/

(I intend to update the documentation this time.)

Let me know what you want fixed or added below. :)

[Negativ1337]

Would like to see some more things useful in Arena, and because you never get 4 toons in the same raid group in a random BG, would like to see a cleaner/better/more useful team list with hp and mana. Its pretty good what we have now but i am thinking about cancelling party frames in raid/bg's and add my 4 toons at the place where the party frames are. So i have 4x hp/mana/targetable bars with my team on it.

Kind regards,

Negativ1337

[Redbeard]

Ive spoken to you before about what id like to work on, but I never seem to find the time.

When I go to loot something I want to see what my group has in that slot. 2h sword drops, for example, and added to the new and improved expanded loot box is a slot for each of my chars showing what is in their 2 slots.

Would save the time of having to look on my chars trying to remember what I have where.

Might be more than you're looking for at this point though.

[Siaea]

Here's a suggestion:

I like how you have the option to hold ALT and have all your toons sell an item. How about the same for your guild bank? Say, hold ALT and click a stack of cloth, and have all your toons put that cloth in the guild bank.

[Jafula]

Would like to see some more things useful in Arena, and because you never get 4 toons in the same raid group in a random BG, would like to see a cleaner/better/more useful team list with hp and mana. Its pretty good what we have now but i am thinking about cancelling party frames in raid/bg's and add my 4 toons at the place where the party frames are. So i have 4x hp/mana/targetable bars with my team on it.

Kind regards,

Negativ1337

Any ideas on how this would look? I'm trying to understand what "cleaner/better/more useful" means. For myself, I use party unit frames and all Jamba team display does for me is follow status and experience.

For instance, do you want to be able to move individual toons hp/mana around (so toona info is position in a different place to toonb)?

[Jafula]

@Redbeard - it's a challenge alright!

@Siaea - awesome, will see what I can do, thinking of sticking that functionality under the Jamba-Trade module. That seem ok?

[Bollwerk]

Apologies if this is already a feature (I haven't been able to play for a few days to check this).

Can you sort the "Jamba-group" window alphabetically, regardless of which toon is the master?
Also, is it possible to resize the bars (i.e. width and height)?
This would make a good alternative to Healbot/Grid for when I play in Battlegrounds. I could then use Clique and custom repeater regions in ISBoxer with the window.

[Jafula]

Apologies if this is already a feature (I haven't been able to play for a few days to check this).

Can you sort the "Jamba-group" window alphabetically, regardless of which toon is the master?
Also, is it possible to resize the bars (i.e. width and height)?
This would make a good alternative to Healbot/Grid for when I play in Battlegrounds. I could then use Clique and custom repeater regions in ISBoxer with the window.

I'd not want to sort alphabetically as you can already sort the team list yourself in /jamba-team by selection a toon and using the up/down buttons.

Yes, you can resize the bars.

Unfortunately you cannot use clique with the team display (something I need to investigate).

[Sam DeathWalker]

I would just like to see when auto follow breaks a lot faster.

I guess with 26 plus characters to much is going back and forth but the autofollow update is 5 seconds or more late all the time.

Maybe a check box to prioritize follow information above all else.

[Jafula]

I would just like to see when auto follow breaks a lot faster.

I guess with 26 plus characters to much is going back and forth but the autofollow update is 5 seconds or more late all the time.

Maybe a check box to prioritize follow information above all else.

Aside from quest watcher stuff, not much gets sent over the addon channel when you are out and about. I don't think I can prio the follow stuff any higher.

How about an out of range indicator instead of follow? This would not use the addon channel, so be fast (I hope, not tried it).

Basically, it would check each toon to see if it was in follow range of the master. Green for within follow range and red for out of follow range. What do you think?

[Ghallo]

1. I really like the quest watcher functionality, but I'd like to toggle Zones instead of all or one at a time. That way I can just enable all quests in this zone and as I pick up new quests they are automatically added to the quest watch.

2. Let me just say that I love the new trade feature - mad props for that!

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Two things come to mind.

1) I'm not really sure how the heck you'd watch for this, but there are two cases where slaves can "miss" things while questing: A) not picking up a quest drop (inventory full, mis-click, whatever) when all 4 others did get it from mob/object X, and B) not accepting/finishing a quest when the other 4 did (missing reagent, NPC not selected, in-combat, etc.). Admittedly, these are somewhat rare events but they cause notable headaches when you have to go fly back over, find that corpse/drop and/or farm it all over again. Regarding mechanics, I can see this being something that watches for looting of a quest item or starting/completing a quest across a majority of the team over a given time period, say 30 seconds or something. Or even have the "window" adjustable to allow for different folks' speed in multibox looting. Note that I am NOT suggesting watching for quest items that have to be farmed one at a time: only items that the entire team can loot off of one object or one corpse.

2) A toon picking up an item that begins a quest and nobody else does. This would probably be a simple warning to the master that self or a slave picked up said item. Nothing fancy here.


Really, though, I've been using 0.7d (I think?) and haven't had any notable issues aside from some flight path ID issues in Vash'jir's underwater flight paths. There might be a problem with Jamba accepting the next quest in a chain after completing one of those in-the-field quests (that popup the completion dialog so you don't have to go back to the NPC) but I just broadcast-clicked the buttons and forgot about it. I can watch for that if you'd like.

[riffraff]

I mentioned these in other threads but thought I'd add them now:

a slash command would make it very easy to change team configs that I'm guessing is easy to code:

/jamba-team removeall

Other things would be nice would be an icon on the jamba team display box next to each toon to signify if they are mounted and/or if they are in combat.

[ZorbaTheGeek]

Could you shade the whole screen red on a dead toon? I used to have an addon that did this, but I'm unable to find one now.

[Buetzel]

hi jafula

if you are looking for challenges, i might have one.

i'm not really sure if it's possible, but i would guess so - although i'd predict massive use of the communications channel.
the idea is this: the possibility to track minerals/herbs on the master, if one of the slaves has the ability to track them.

i don't know if i have to explain this further, but i saw addons like routes or before that cartographer-routes add icons to the minimap. so i guess one could write an addon that displays tracking info on the master. i'm not that sure if an addon could also request info from the minimap. but if it could - this would be a tremendous addition to jamba. (at least for some of us who don't like to have the tank of every team pick up herbalism and mining, just to not miss that stuff all the time while running around it).

as i am not familiar with the lua api i really have no idea, what the effort to write this would be - and how much this would strain the communications channel. i'd guess coordinates and mineral/herb-type would have to be transferred. rather frequently i'd say.

of course, if this was possible, it probably could get expanded to track everything any char in the team can track (hunters anyone?) on the master. but then again - i think the communications would explode. at least if i'm not underestimating the load that channel can take.

[Harry Palms]

I browsed the existing tickets and couldn't find this one, although I'm sure it's been requested before.

I want Jamba to stop spamming me when team members are offline. Currently as soon as I do something as trivial as alt-tab I'm greeted with two error messages telling me Jamba was unable to find my offline alt.

I'm aware of the fact that I can /jamba-team add|remove <alt>, but I don't want to have to remove and re-add my alt every time.

Maybe poll the guild or friends list for when team members are online or not?

[Buetzel]

@Harry Palms
this is already doable. in jamba configuration under "communication" (i think - it's one of the tabs in the bottom group of settings) there is a checkbox "assume all team members are online at all times" (not the exact wording, i'm not at home now). uncheck this and it stops spamming you.



ah... seems Lyonheart answered this a bit better than me in another thread already: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php?p=306624&postcount=2

[Maxion]

Two things come to mind.

1) I'm not really sure how the heck you'd watch for this, but there are two cases where slaves can "miss" things while questing: A) not picking up a quest drop (inventory full, mis-click, whatever) when all 4 others did get it from mob/object X, and B) not accepting/finishing a quest when the other 4 did (missing reagent, NPC not selected, in-combat, etc.). Admittedly, these are somewhat rare events but they cause notable headaches when you have to go fly back over, find that corpse/drop and/or farm it all over again. Regarding mechanics, I can see this being something that watches for looting of a quest item or starting/completing a quest across a majority of the team over a given time period, say 30 seconds or something. Or even have the "window" adjustable to allow for different folks' speed in multibox looting. Note that I am NOT suggesting watching for quest items that have to be farmed one at a time: only items that the entire team can loot off of one object or one corpse.

2) A toon picking up an item that begins a quest and nobody else does. This would probably be a simple warning to the master that self or a slave picked up said item. Nothing fancy here.


Really, though, I've been using 0.7d (I think?) and haven't had any notable issues aside from some flight path ID issues in Vash'jir's underwater flight paths. There might be a problem with Jamba accepting the next quest in a chain after completing one of those in-the-field quests (that popup the completion dialog so you don't have to go back to the NPC) but I just broadcast-clicked the buttons and forgot about it. I can watch for that if you'd like.
I think there is already an addon existingthat warns the group when someone picks up a quest-starting item, so this should be very doable.

hi jafula

if you are looking for challenges, i might have one.

i'm not really sure if it's possible, but i would guess so - although i'd predict massive use of the communications channel.
the idea is this: the possibility to track minerals/herbs on the master, if one of the slaves has the ability to track them.

i don't know if i have to explain this further, but i saw addons like routes or before that cartographer-routes add icons to the minimap. so i guess one could write an addon that displays tracking info on the master. i'm not that sure if an addon could also request info from the minimap. but if it could - this would be a tremendous addition to jamba. (at least for some of us who don't like to have the tank of every team pick up herbalism and mining, just to not miss that stuff all the time while running around it).

as i am not familiar with the lua api i really have no idea, what the effort to write this would be - and how much this would strain the communications channel. i'd guess coordinates and mineral/herb-type would have to be transferred. rather frequently i'd say.

of course, if this was possible, it probably could get expanded to track everything any char in the team can track (hunters anyone?) on the master. but then again - i think the communications would explode. at least if i'm not underestimating the load that channel can take.
This has already been found in the past to be impossible due to addons being unable to actually know when the yellow dots appear on the map (you can track where they are supposed to spawn easily, but not actually see when there are nodes nearby), as well as addons being unable to do anything with such yellow dots.
So no, you cannot have an addon telling you on another character when a different character sees something on tracking.

The most common solution people use for this is to have an addon make the minimap really large on alts screens when they are not being focused, or some similar setup.

[ebony]

Not sure if this been said yet but when you do them quests that popup and you can hand in the quest from the Quest UI can theis be added? am hideing the blizzard quest thing so i have to go though the quest UI

[Maxion]

Not sure if this been said yet but when you do them quests that popup and you can hand in the quest from the Quest UI can theis be added? am hideing the blizzard quest thing so i have to go though the quest UI

Atm the only way to see those is to disable hiding the blizzard tracker (as in show it), but Jafula is working on a fix for it right now.

[Kris1234]

I think there is already an addon existingthat warns the group when someone picks up a quest-starting item, so this should be very doable.

Tom Quest 2 (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tomquest2.aspx) does this, altho i'd rather a raid warning or something a bit more noticeable as sometimes its missed.

[pinotnoir]

I don't know if you have it fixed already but the warning on follow breaking would be nice. I have to disable it because it warns whenever I press follow that all my toons have broken follow. That was a great feature.

[d0z3rr]

I have a few days free to work on Jamba. If you really want something fixed or added, now is the time to ask.

Current open issues are listed here:

http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/jamba/tickets/

(I intend to update the documentation this time.)

Let me know what you want fixed or added below. :)

The Jamba team window interferes with clicking stuff in your bags, so I have to drag the team window completely out of the way to click on stuff in my bags.

[Negativ1337]

Any ideas on how this would look? I'm trying to understand what "cleaner/better/more useful" means. For myself, I use party unit frames and all Jamba team display does for me is follow status and experience.

For instance, do you want to be able to move individual toons hp/mana around (so toona info is position in a different place to toonb)?

I will explain more clearly as last time i had 5 minutes.

Back in the days i used to put all my characters in one raid group in battlegrounds. Now its almost undoable, and i'm looking for clickable frames where i can see my characters with their mana, hp, castbar and name at the left side of my screen.

Its equal to the team watcher unit frames that are currently in jamba, but then i would like to have them bigger. I would like to have mana and hp below eachother and i want to be able to scale them bigger and smaller. Maybe a character portrait would be handy aswell.

I wonder if this isn't too much work, or that i'm able to put the health and mana frames below eachother and add a castbar already at the team watcher. I haven't really took my time to check it out, but as far as i've seen this is hard/not implemented yet.

I'm using Xperl so in raids i can disable my party frames. My idea is to let me party frames dissapear in raid, and then show my 4 characters on the place where my party frames are. It would be nice to make those frames of my characters to have an option to enable.

Example optionlist:
- [X] Only show in raid/bg.
- [ ] Show in raid and when im in a group outside a raid/bg.
- [ ] Always show these frames of my team.

Kind regards,

Team Overdose
BTW: Love you add-on :)

[zenga]

Currently I use a multitude of addons, usually only 1 non key feature per addon, to get as close as how I'd like to see my info on my screen. Best way to show is through a quick & dirty picture.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4224/jambar.jpg

1) Currently jamba can only be displayed top to bottom: each toon is represented by a bar that contains multiple values in a column. I don't find that the most user friendly way. So first idea would be to make it so that you can unattach a toon and it's bars from the jamba window (or move around in the jamba window). That way one could list his toons in a horizontal way, which is visually better tmho.
2) Each unit could have the same 'bars' it has now. Power (mana), xp bar and a bar to show if follow broke or not (awesome jamba feature).
3) Debuffs in a graphical way (like shadow unit frames does it nowadays).
4) Something I haven't found a solution for so far: casting bars for my slaves. So far I can only see the party bars when they are in the same group, which is hardly the case in a bg.

If it was me to decided, i'd go for casting bars as an absolute priority.

It would be awesome if jamba could replace the unit frames i have to use nowadays.

[Nsaeyn]

Yes adding a unit frame so we can stop using grid, pitbull, or xperl would be great. I agree that the current hp frame in jamba works for some but in pvp it is lacking some features. I certainly do not know how difficult it is to develop unit frames like the above mentioned but if we had something that was clickable and more customizable all inside of jamba it would be awesome.

Main features
-size of each item and the entire window must be customizable
-ability to add or remove unit picture
-color text or bars based on class or not
-banzai aggro alert (red ring around unit targeted)
-cast bars with text option
-the health and mana need to update much faster than the current jamba option does
-clickable so we can use it as a complete replacement for unit frames
-track specific buffs and/or debuffs

the current raid frames that blizzard implemented are pretty good so a copy of those would be a starting place. basically a cross between grid, blizzard, with some of the options of pitbull.

Thank you

[Zal]

Would still really like Chat forwarding to work correctly.

http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/jamba/tickets/143-bnet-chat-forwarding-and-relay-doesnt-work-for-me-unless/

[Bollwerk]

@Jafula

Jamba-Quest Watcher disables Achievement tracking in the Objectives window. I'm not asking to track across the group (as you already addressed this issue when I asked), but I would at least like to see Achievement tracking for the toon I'm currently using, if I chose to track something. Is this possible?

For example, when I track an exploration achievement for a zone, I should see a list of unexplored parts in the objectives window.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I don't know if you have it fixed already but the warning on follow breaking would be nice. I have to disable it because it warns whenever I press follow that all my toons have broken follow. That was a great feature.

There is an option in 0.7d for "only when slaves are outside of following distance" which prevents that spam. ;)

[pinotnoir]

There is an option in 0.7d for "only when slaves are outside of following distance" which prevents that spam. ;)

Sweet!

[Ghallo]

Currently I use a multitude of addons, usually only 1 non key feature per addon, to get as close as how I'd like to see my info on my screen. Best way to show is through a quick & dirty picture.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4224/jambar.jpg

1) Currently jamba can only be displayed top to bottom: each toon is represented by a bar that contains multiple values in a column. I don't find that the most user friendly way. So first idea would be to make it so that you can unattach a toon and it's bars from the jamba window (or move around in the jamba window). That way one could list his toons in a horizontal way, which is visually better tmho.
2) Each unit could have the same 'bars' it has now. Power (mana), xp bar and a bar to show if follow broke or not (awesome jamba feature).
3) Debuffs in a graphical way (like shadow unit frames does it nowadays).
4) Something I haven't found a solution for so far: casting bars for my slaves. So far I can only see the party bars when they are in the same group, which is hardly the case in a bg.

If it was me to decided, i'd go for casting bars as an absolute priority.

It would be awesome if jamba could replace the unit frames i have to use nowadays.
Zenga - this is what I use Shadowed Unit Frames for. I'd love to have this functionality in Jamba, but you can actually configure SUF to use the Unit Name instead of the UnitID to place them on your screen. It is a PITA to configure but you could essentially get what you want.

If this was in Jamba it would become the one addon to rule them all.

[ebony]

Currently I use a multitude of addons, usually only 1 non key feature per addon, to get as close as how I'd like to see my info on my screen. Best way to show is through a quick & dirty picture.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4224/jambar.jpg

1) Currently jamba can only be displayed top to bottom: each toon is represented by a bar that contains multiple values in a column. I don't find that the most user friendly way. So first idea would be to make it so that you can unattach a toon and it's bars from the jamba window (or move around in the jamba window). That way one could list his toons in a horizontal way, which is visually better tmho.
2) Each unit could have the same 'bars' it has now. Power (mana), xp bar and a bar to show if follow broke or not (awesome jamba feature).
3) Debuffs in a graphical way (like shadow unit frames does it nowadays).
4) Something I haven't found a solution for so far: casting bars for my slaves. So far I can only see the party bars when they are in the same group, which is hardly the case in a bg.

If it was me to decided, i'd go for casting bars as an absolute priority.

It would be awesome if jamba could replace the unit frames i have to use nowadays.


maybe you could add a Power bar EG, holy power Dk-power and shammy timers could them bars be added as well?

[zenga]

Zenga - this is what I use Shadowed Unit Frames for. I'd love to have this functionality in Jamba, but you can actually configure SUF to use the Unit Name instead of the UnitID to place them on your screen. It is a PITA to configure but you could essentially get what you want.

If this was in Jamba it would become the one addon to rule them all.

Are you saying that if i'm in a raid with 5 toons, and AB are in group 2, CDE in group 3, that I can preconfigure SUF such that my 'party frames' will display my 5 toons instead of the group they are in? If so that would be nuts, think many been looking with me for that option. Care to explain?

[Ghallo]

Are you saying that if i'm in a raid with 5 toons, and AB are in group 2, CDE in group 3, that I can preconfigure SUF such that my 'party frames' will display my 5 toons instead of the group they are in? If so that would be nuts, think many been looking with me for that option. Care to explain?

I didn't think this was a big deal, but Shadowed had written something up about it (or I thought he had) way back in May. I went to go look up how to do it, but unfortunately I could not find the thread.

Sorry to get your hopes up :(

From what I remember though, the LUA needed to be modified to filter on the names of the people in your team. I did PVP for a couple of weeks, decided I didn't really care for PVP and went back... and now I can't find the file I had setup (must have been lost in all the cata upgrading stuff).

If you post in the http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13494-ShadowedUnitFrames.html comments section he may remember how.

btw, SUF is probably the best UF out there... I have tried them all (or nearly all :P) and never been able to get the config I wanted until I used it.

[jeepdriver]

Is there anyway you could have jamba give a message when a polymorph, hex etc lands or is resisted? and a timer on when it will expire?

[Maxion]

Is there anyway you could have jamba give a message when a polymorph, hex etc lands or is resisted? and a timer on when it will expire?

There are already other addons that do this.

[Iru]

I'd settle for having all my existing tickets resolved :)

[jeepdriver]

There are already other addons that do this.

Please, elaborate :) I tried using CCwatcher, but I could never get it to work right while boxing.

[Hyper]

If they don't already exist in the addon and I am just ignorant of how to enable them, I would like to request the following :

1) The option to make the Jamba Team window click through (non-interactive) similar to the way Omen works.

2) The option to show a reputation progress bar in Jamba Team and possibly the selection of faction watched.

[jeepdriver]

Anyway that you could make it where you can set the focus from the main to individual slaves?

[Ghallo]

Don't know if it has been requested... but I would love to have an easy way to sync certain settings between profiles ... I basically want everything to be identical between teams except the team definition itself. This would be really helpful when I have teams on different servers etc.

I created these macro groups:
General (all use these)
Movement (for formations)
then 1 for each class.

Then within each class macro group I only define macros that are class specific.

Each class may have a macro called "DPSSpam" but the Warlock one is different than the Mage one.

This means that I would love to just simply copy my whole Jamba setup from one team to the next (which works great day 1) but then once I write a killer warlock macro on my Horde team... I can't just sync those macro's over to one of my alliance teams.

So, I guess to simplify... I would love to be able to copy macros (or entire macro sections) between "profiles"

[Iru]

I run a single profile with all possible toons in it and per-class macros (selected via tags) for this

[Kris1234]

i would like to see a multi-bar item bar.

so instead of 1 long bar you can split it into something like a 2x4 bar.

[JackBurton]

Something to lighten the drain on slower computers by adjusting the display settings

• turn down settings for high population cities
• turn down settings when a toon becomes a slave
• turn up settings when a toon becomes a master


something that manipulates some or all all of the following


/console ffx 0 Disable all pixel shaders
/console hwPCF 1 *???*
/console shadowlod 0 Disables Blob Shadows
/console timingmethod 1 There were some improvements made to better support Dual-Core CPU's
/console showshadow 0 *???*
/console showfootprints 0 Disable footprints
/console showfootprintparticles 0 *???*

/console overridefarclip 0 farclipoverride??? - Allows overriding of preset limit for farclip (WoW 3.0)
/console farclip 177 Set detailed draw distance; sets the fog distance. Only terrain will be visible past this distance.
/console horizonfarclip 1305 Set draw distance for the horizon (terrain). When larger than farclip, will show 'shadows' of terrain in the distance.
/console detailDoodadAlpha 0 *???*
/console groundeffectdensity 16 *???*

/console groundeffectdist 1 *???*
/console smallcull 1 Affects the hiding ('culling') of small objects. Setting to 0 disables.
/console skycloudlod 1 Level of detail for Sky
/console characterAmbient 1 Set the ambient value for characters.
/console extshadowquality 0 Enables Dynamic Shadows (WoW 3.0)
/console environmentDetail 0.5 Controls model draw distance for doodads (WoW 3.0)

/console m2Faster 1 M2Faster can improve performance in crowded scenes when "Vertex Animation Shaders" is turned on.