Looking to buy 4 LCD monitors ..which ones are good/bad, what do you use?

[Smallpox]

Hello,

So far I've read many of the threads and I'm now able to 4 box with no problems, 5 boxing when I get a new computer on Wednesday. But I do this on a 24" Gateway LCD and an old Viewsonic 17" CRT monitor. I hate having 3 toons on 1 computer it's just too small, so I'm looking to order 2 ERGOTRON DS100 Dual-Monitor Vertical Desk Stands and buy up to 4 17" or 19" monitors. But I would like to know what you guys/gals recommend? These will be secondary to my 24" which I love, but I'm not sure which ones are good or bad, I've been to Newegg and they have tons of LCD monitors but I would like to know what people here use, do you have any problems with the monitors you have, any ghosting issues etc? I don't mind buying from my local computer store but they only have 2 models:

19" KDS K-9BW 5ms
19" ViewSonic Va1903wb 5ms

BTW anyone have these?

With the Ergotron stand I need to have a monitor that has a detachable stand/base, I was looking at the Hanns·G JW-199DPB Black 19" 5ms DVI Widescreen and almost bought 4 when I happen to read one of the reviews and it stated that they couldn't remove the stand to work with the Ergotron Vertical stand, ouch! I need to be able to put it on the Ergotron. So I come here in hopes that someone can recommend a few brands of monitors.


Thanks..

[opt]

I have 3 samsung 940Ns on there way, i already have 1. These are a 19" 8ms 800:1 decent screen from a good manufacturer and was a pretty good price.
For my main screen i use a 22" CMV widescreen. Now CMV is from what i understand a brand who develops panels for many notebook platforms, at the start I was only loooking for a cheap 22" but i have to say its a very nice screen and im very pleased with it price & quality are excellent and it has been very reliable. The only thing is the on button is a little dodgy, but i mean if it doesnt come on if i turn it on i just have to press a little harder, but no big deal.
I am currently running wow tiled on my 19" and its just getting to the point where its just anoying.
I think you should try and shop around and not limited yourself to a selection out of 2 panels.

[-silencer-]

I love the Dell 24" Ultrasharps.. however Dell panels are usually just rebadged Samsung & LG panels. Can't go wrong with the Dell Ultrasharp, higher-end ViewSonic & Samsung displays.

[dancook]

I just ordered myself one of these, http://www.oyyy.co.uk/product.php?xProd=27723

viewsonic 22inch ws tft will take backseat to this, from what i've read this ben-q is meant to be top notch..

[aetherg]

Viewsonic panels are pretty solid. I'm a big fan of the Dell panels, though. They are just rebadged Samsungs, but they're easier to get and often have more promotional discounts. If you wait a bit for the right time, you can get really nice prices on them.

[torelorm]

This has some awful nice specs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112011

I have two Sceptre 21" and I am quite happy with them so far. Just something about the extra space and higher rez makes me happy in the pants.

[-silencer-]

There's a reason the Sceptre panels are inexpensive.. the few I've been exposed to have all been 6-bit panels. Especially the 19" and 21" models of around a year ago. It's bad enough where I can visibly see the color gradients. Same with the Hanns-G. Reponse time doesn't mean jack if the colors aren't smoothly blending.. I'd rather sacrifice some cash and a little response time for better colors, clarity, brightness, and contrast.

[torelorm]

According to several posts on HardOCP, it seems these are the same TN panel as the Samsung 245BW and Dell E248WFP which seem to get some very reviews.

Sure, it's not a top of the line panel, but at that price point it's quite hard to beat for a 24" 1920x1600 display.

[Skuggomann]

What id do is someting likeElo does:


http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7744/dscn3636lx4.jpg



I jsut tink it looks badass wen you flipp 2x 22" LCD screens, if you only put 1 window a screen its kinda a whaist of space in my opinion :S

[-silencer-]

According to several posts on HardOCP, it seems these are the same TN panel as the Samsung 245BW and Dell E248WFP which seem to get some very reviews.

Sure, it's not a top of the line panel, but at that price point it's quite hard to beat for a 24" 1920x1600 display.


I have a Samsung 245BW panel. Couple of notes to would-be buyers.

Its BIG. Really really BIG. I didn't quite grasp how big it was until I put it nex to my 20" LCDs (and those were big too!). make sure you've got lots of desk space for this thing. And its heavy too for an LCD.

True, for the $375 Dell charges for the 24" E248WFP right now, you can't beat the *size* for the price. However, saying that this TN panel is of great quality is pushing the truth. I've seen the E248WFP side-by-side with the older 24" 2405WFP Ultrasharp, and the older Ultrasharp looks much better in color representation, contrast, and viewing angle. The response time on the E248WFP may be slightly better, but compared to the newer 2407WFP model, there's NO comparison. Put them side-by-side and you'll see what I'm talking about.

The Ultrasharp models really do look that much better than the E-series. I could live with the E248WFP as an alt-monitor, but I want the main monitor I'm staring at to look better than these. I'd rather have a 20" or 22" Ultrasharp than the 24" E248WFP for a primary display.. dropping down to 1680x1050 is worth the better color representation and viewing angle.

[Smallpox]

What id do is someting likeElo does:

I jsut tink it looks badass wen you flipp 2x 22" LCD screens, if you only put 1 window a screen its kinda a whaist of space in my opinion :S
Hey Skuggomann is that your setup? What's the brand/model of those monitors, I kind a like that idea!

Can anyone recommend some 17" or 19" monitors? I like the idea of flipping a 22" but would prefer to have separate monitors.

Thanks everyone

[-silencer-]

Can anyone recommend some 17" or 19" monitors? I like the idea of flipping a 22" but would prefer to have separate monitors.

Thanks everyone
Dell had a deal going this last week, maybe still so, for $138 17" widescreen LCDs in 1440x900 resolution. Their economy model 19" widescreen at the same resolution was around $170? That's about as cheap you'll find LCDs - which is fine for displaying your alts. I just wouldn't use one for a main.

[Ripper]

I use a Soyo 24", got it for $299 at Officemax a few months ago. It sits next to a few Dell flatscreens, and it has excellent visual quality. I was thinking of getting a 30", but that would be overkill for now.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Two of my alts are using i-INC 19" panels. They were dirt cheap and have no bad pixels or obviously crappy performance. If you're going to get out a magnifying glass and look for issues, you'll find something wrong with anything you buy. If you just want something that's cheap but acceptable for alt PCs and you aren't trying to do professional Photoshop or HD video work on them, these or the inexpensive Dell's will work fine. I'd stay away from the Sceptre or HannsG panels, though, as they're old tech that's been recycled, basically (large .28DP pixels, crappy contrast/brightness, low color support, slow response times, etc. ad nauseum).

[laeelin]

I've seen the E248WFP side-by-side with the older 24" 2405WFP Ultrasharp, and the older Ultrasharp looks much better in color representation, contrast, and viewing angle. The response time on the E248WFP may be slightly better, but compared to the newer 2407WFP model, there's NO comparison. Put them side-by-side and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I had what I though was a very nice 30' monitor when I picked up my 2405WFP Ultrasharp...

Till I placed them side by side I never understood just how much of a difference monitor quality makes.... I gave my 30' to a friend because it looked so bad next to my 2405WFP.

I get reminded of that difference every time I sit down at work in front of my 17' at work.

[-silencer-]

I had what I though was a very nice 30' monitor when I picked up my 2405WFP Ultrasharp...

Till I placed them side by side I never understood just how much of a difference monitor quality makes.... I gave my 30' to a friend because it looked so bad next to my 2405WFP.

I get reminded of that difference every time I sit down at work in front of my 17' at work.
I know how you feel. At work I have an older 20" 1600x1200 Dell.. from around the time the 2405 first came out. I love my 2405WFP, but I just wish it had the same bezel & stand as the new 2407 I just ordered - I like my setup to be uniform. I may have to end up getting a 2nd 2407 for home, and bring my 2405 to work. :)

[Mac]

How important is response time for what we are doing? I see some listed at 2ms, 5ms, 8ms?

[-silencer-]

Response time helps reduce ghosting. 16ms has some noticeable ghosting at certain times, but it's not a big deal. 12ms is barely noticeable, but I highly doubt many people will notice a difference between 8ms, 5ms, and 2ms. Think about it - 8ms is equal to 125fps. 1000ms in a second / 8 = 125. However, the refresh rate on most LCDs is still at 60Hz, 72Hz, or 75Hz. Once you're in the sub-10ms response rate range, there are other far more important factors in choosing an LCD - mainly color depth(!), contrast ratio, brightness, and viewing angle.

[Mac]

Response time helps reduce ghosting. 16ms has some noticeable ghosting at certain times, but it's not a big deal. 12ms is barely noticeable, but I highly doubt many people will notice a difference between 8ms, 5ms, and 2ms. Think about it - 8ms is equal to 125fps. 1000ms in a second / 8 = 125. However, the refresh rate on most LCDs is still at 60Hz, 72Hz, or 75Hz. Once you're in the sub-10ms response rate range, there are other far more important factors in choosing an LCD - mainly color depth(!), contrast ratio, brightness, and viewing angle.
Thank you for putting that in perspective for me :)

[Sam DeathWalker]

All these panels are the exact same as the apple monitors but way cheaper:

Sony SDM-P234, Sony SDM-P234b, Dell 2005FPW, LG L2300C, Acer AL2032wm, LG M203WX, LG L2320A, LG L2323T, LG M2343A, LG L2300B, LG M203WA, LG L2320A, LG M203WX-BZ, X3D Technologies 3D AD, Philips 200W6CS, Philips 230W5BS, Philips 230WP7NS, Philips 23PF4310, Philips 23PF9946, Philips 23PF9956)




Philips 23PF9956, Philips 200WP7ES, ViewSonic VP231wb, ViewSonic VP201b, ViewSonic VP201s, NEC LCD20WGX2 Pro, Philips 230W5VS, Philips 230W5VS/27, HP L2335, NEC LCD20WMGX2, NEC LCD2490WUXi, NEC LCD2490WUXi-BK



Have fun!