Cataclysm multiboxing 80-85?

[Negativ1337]

Hey there guys,

How are you planning to level up to 85? Anyone knows if there are a lot of multibox-unfriendly quests in cataclysm?

I am thinking of just questing as much as possible, i really would love to do dungeons but i've seen how hard bosses and trash is in cataclysm, and have no idea to work out the crowd control.

I was thinking to do 80-82 quests/instances
82-83 #1 leveling area
83-84 #2 leveling area
84-85 sahara

How about you guys?

Kind regards,

Team Overdose

[Vecter]

Hey there guys,

How are you planning to level up to 85? Anyone knows if there are a lot of multibox-unfriendly quests in cataclysm?

I am thinking of just questing as much as possible, i really would love to do dungeons but i've seen how hard bosses and trash is in cataclysm, and have no idea to work out the crowd control.

I was thinking to do 80-82 quests/instances
82-83 #1 leveling area
83-84 #2 leveling area
84-85 sahara

How about you guys?

Kind regards,

Team Overdose

I have read there are a bunch of collection quests and a ton of phasing which we all love as boxers. I thought in regards to collection quests though that each mob drops the needed item and every member of your party can loot it. Not sure if that is still true. That would help.

Questing vs. Instances? All depends on Queue. Plus for questing have to battle with everyone else. I probably will do a mix.

[gunsun]

I was thinking of running WoTLK heroics for 80-81 to avoid crowds and avoid collection quests to start. Has anyone tried this in the beta? Is it a waste of time?

[thedreameater]

I'd love to see more discussion about plans from people who have done the beta.

Personally, I'm going to camp my toons outside BRC on the 6th. Great site here which shows exactly where to place them here (http://www.projectcwal.com/wow/cataclysm-dungeon-entrance-locations/).

Has anyone run through the underwater instance in the beta? Will it be too much of a headache to box?

I'm probably going to grind instances to hit 85, but the main question is BRC or Lich heroics? Someone posted here (http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=4926#comments) on WoWhead - :"I understand that trash mobs for 80th lvl players give 7k each, 4 bosses give 24k and end boss gives 32k each."

Also, a lil write up about BRC from our own forums here (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=32028).

[naPS]

Questing is definitely the way to go. The phasing is definitely there, but I didn't notice it being too obnoxious when I leveled a couple of toons on Beta. I only had 1 beta account though, so I wasn't able to test out a lot of the typical boxer functions.

Apparently dungeon XP has been nerfed into the ground. I will attempt to find a link for this information, but that's basically what's been posted on my guild forums. A couple of guys are going for world first, so they're keen on how to get there the fastest.

Basically, your quest flow should be :

80 - 82 Hyjal or Vash'jir leave as soon as you hit 82, and go to
82 - 83 Deepholme leave as soon as you hit 83, and go to
83 - 84 Uldum leave as soon as you hit 84, and go to
84 - 85 Twilight Highlands

This is more or less the path I followed while leveling in beta, and it worked really well for me.

The main problem with leveling is that all the quest lines are completely linear. You HAVE to move from quest hub to quest hub, there's no way around it. It's going to be a nightmare on launch day. Some of the quest lines have to be completed before their dungeon quests are unlocked, even though all the starters for the dungeon quests are inside the entrance to the actual instances.

Vash'jir shouldn't be too bad for boxers. You get an underwater mount pretty much right off the bat that makes things just like flying. If you can fly with your team currently, you'll have no problems with Vash'jir. The only issue I had was that everything is 3 dimensional there, and can make it difficult to find mobs and other shit you're supposed to find. Also, Blizzard felt the need to stuff everything into caves in Vash'jir, and then made the entrance to the caves difficult to find. Fun. I found Hyjal far less irritating than I did Vash'jir. Oh yeah, there's a pretty long quest chain where you are phased as a Naga where it acts like a vehicle. Could be a real cock-block to multi-boxers.

Now, don't get me wrong - I'm still going to grind some dungeons with my own team. It's just supposedly not the fastest way to do things right now. Also, it's recommended you fill up your quest log with 25 completed quests - you can get all 25 from Icecrown dailies, and turn them in immediately after launch. This nets you about 500k experience, and puts you 1/3 of the way into 81.

The experience levels needed for each level are as follows :


At any rate! The numbers:

XP per level:

80-81 1686300
81-82 2121500
82-83 4004000
83-84 5203400
84-85 6546500*

84-85 was changed post-beta to be 40% more, so it probably is around 9.2M.

Quest completion:

hyjal - 115/115 (10-15 more; achievement stopped at 115)
deepholm - 90/125
uldum - 108/108
th - 86/120
~424 quests total

This was with about no rest experience, but also without pre-questing 25 dailies (which would be around 500k of level 80-81).

Total time, grouped, was 15.5 hours.


Here's a post from our guild forums :


Everyone should have their hearts in Stormwind. When the shattering hits, the dalaran portals will be gone anyway. Before heading to Vashj'ir or Hyjal, pick up old world flying from the flight trainer in Stormwind, otherwise you're fucked. From there, you can go to new questing.

You can get around a third of a level by queuing up 25 daily quests (hodir, icecrown, toc, etc) and turning them in before heading to Stormwind.

Tracker Snacks and Blackened Worg Steak can be handy if you aren't a class that can track. This will help with a few quests.

Pick up new food and water when you hearth to stormwind before heading out.

When you hit level 82, go to Deepholm and quest it to completion. When you hit 84 in Uldum, bail and go to Twilight Highlands asap.

Movement speed increases are one of the most valuable and effective ways to reduce leveling speed. Ditto mount speed. Swiftness of Zanza (though you only get one) is nice.

If you are doing Hyjal first, do NOT click the mole machine. Trust me. It's a breadcrumb quest you can finish some other time, but if you take it and turn the quest in, you're stuck in blackrock mountain. fml.

Being Human for leveling is handy -- there are lots of reputations you build up as you push through quests and it will save you some time. As you quest, you may spot dailies as well; often they are solid XP.

Some people say pushing BRC for 80-81 or even 80-82 is good; at best, it is only slightly better than questing, but is potentially risk (one wipe and you're way behind; likewise, instance trouble could delay you). More data is needed, but definitely it only pays off in a full guild group absolutely raping the entire instance in 11-13 minutes.

Carrying an extra Tuskarr enchantment scroll or two will let you upgrade boots and keep run speed boosts (assuming your class doesn't have them already).

Swimspeed potions will come in handy maybe 3-4 times, depending -- worth grabbing a few.

Get the biggest bags you can and addons to auto-sell shit when your bags are full.

If you don't have one, an argent squire can be handy for bank/vendor access.

Be fully repaired before midnight! Save time!



(All info is specific to non-heroic modes.)

All dungeons have a few quests tied to them, given by NPCs just inside the entrance.

Blackrock Caverns
Mostly chain pullable if everyone has ilvl 264+, no CC needed (kicks are nice but not required), and very easy bosses. Be sure to have a ranged dps or two to simplify the second boss.

Worth farming for 80-82 with a solid group.

Throne of the Tides
(Not done this since it was nerfed, but...) RP and elevator waiting: eww.

The Stonecore
Trash requires CC or AoE damage will be overwhelming. Easy bosses, though they can take some time to kill.

Do Deepholm, don't bother farming this for xp as it will hurt in the long run.

The Vortex Pinnacle
Trash needs some CC and does pretty constant AoE damage.

The dungeons below give faction rep with tabards

Halls of Origination
Not much trash and it doesn't require CC. Lots of bosses.

Lost City of the Tol'vir
Trash needs some CC.

Grim Batol
Trash needs some CC. And there is a ton of it -- five to a pack typically.

[Ualaa]

I'm planning on flying around for Herbalism with the first team.
Do as much of that as I can possibly stand.
Given the 29 alchemists I'll want to level...

Chances are, the majority of the leveling will be questing.
And probably battlegrounds on the BG weekend.

Might do the intro quests, even with the first team.
As the gear is supposed to be more of a reset than Classic > Burning Crusade.

Chance are, I'll rush two teams, as I'm interested in having an alliance and horde team for rated battlegrounds.
Ideally get the accumulation of points going asap.

But after that, take my time for subsequent teams, and read every quest at least once; experience the game and its' lore.

[Tyval]

I'm hoping to level mostly in dungeons as I figure it will be good practice as well as a way to avoid the crowds.

The only thing I'm not sure of is if my current gear will be enough for the first two instances with the gear/stat inflation. I probably average around i232+ (have some 264 and 251 but also still sporting several 200s).

Though reading above I guess maybe that isn't a sound plan if exp has been nerfed.


I was also curious if doing the lvl 80 heroic dungeons would be worthwhile from an experience standpoint? Of course no nice upgrades going that route.

T

[Kedash00]

i dunno what the hell i'm going to do since quest helper dosen't work anymore, i know bliz has their own version of it now but i'll prolly wander around before i get frustrated enough to read the damn quest and then finish them all. or do instances sounds good, just over and over and over. but that gets boring.

[naPS]

The gear reset is huge. I'm in all BiS on my hunter right now, and I've got about 33k HP. In Cata level 85 blues, I had 80k. :0

[Ualaa]

The quest helper site, recommended uploading the relevant .LUA file for accumulated data.
They said they were working on updating the program, and anticipated a couple of weeks to do this.
Which puts that at, about a week into Cata.

The Blizzard quest thing, has auto progress tracking, if you set that option.
You get a number on the main map, which shows approximately where to be.
And an arrow on the mini-map, but that fades away when you get close.
So it is a lot less useful then Quest Helper was.

Carbonite had a bunch of other options in it.
But a quest guide is part of the addon.
Might be worth checking out.

[zenga]

To add to ualaa's post: tomtom + lighthead + standard wow quest features cut it for me (who is an expert in getting lost). Lightheaded displays a small frame next to your quest log, that displays the comments from wowhead. There are so many coordinates in those comments that you can just click and tomtom will display an arrow where to go.

[Shodokan]

Questing should take about 24 hours worth of time or so to 85 with no rested at a mediocre pace and no real understanding of quests.

It shouldn't be too bad... if you are boxing... do hyjal... vash just has too many spread out quests and you need to ride that freaking seahorse.

[Legorandir]

If you want a leveling addon for Cataclysm I´d recomend Wow-pro´s addon http://www.wow-pro.com/addon
I used their guides when LK came out and now they have intgrated them to an addon.

[Slats]

If you don't want ot use Lightheaded / TomTom you can use a mod called:

Quest Complete

It integrates perfectly with the Blizzard UI Quest and puts the 3D Arrow on your screen. If you open the world map and click a different 'number' for your quests it will change targets.

Very very useful. :)

[Negativ1337]

Thanks a lot guys for all the great reply's! Really usefull :)

I am just worrying about the new dungeons, BRD sounds like it could be done because you don't need so much CC. Hope the heroics won't be too hard on level 85, and i hope i could get to 85 in one week, since i took one week off to play WoW :)

Kind regards,

Team Overdose

[MiRai]

If you don't want ot use Lightheaded / TomTom you can use a mod called:

Quest Complete

It integrates perfectly with the Blizzard UI Quest and puts the 3D Arrow on your screen. If you open the world map and click a different 'number' for your quests it will change targets.

Very very useful. :)
Nice Slats, I ditched Quest Helper quite awhile ago and have just been looking at the map because of Blizzard's integrated
system which I think is fine. However, I'd love to have that 3D arrow back. :)

[ElectronDF]

I want to come back and see if the people that say leveling to 85 should take .3 secs are going to be the same ones going.....I am quiting until Emerald Dream, I am done with Cata and there is nothing new.

[Ualaa]

I usually get a guide for a new expansion.
Was researching a bit today, and I like the video for the Zygor addon/guide.

It scans your completed quest history, removing quests you've already done.
And auto adjusts itself, based on leveling bonuses like heirlooms/RAF, etc.
Has a waypoint arrow, which is supposed to be the path to take not a straight arrow to the target; if you're in a cave or something similar.

Could probably find a free leveling guide.
But like the addon, waypoint system and how it adjusts itself on the fly.

[tanknspanker]

will it really be needed to cc in the new instances ?
my new team, ( 4 dk + holy pally) doesn't got much cc's right
still got my other team sitting on lvl 57 (which contains= pala tank, mage, lock, hunter, priest)

spanker

[pinotnoir]

I usually get a guide for a new expansion.
Was researching a bit today, and I like the video for the Zygor addon/guide.

It scans your completed quest history, removing quests you've already done.
And auto adjusts itself, based on leveling bonuses like heirlooms/RAF, etc.
Has a waypoint arrow, which is supposed to be the path to take not a straight arrow to the target; if you're in a cave or something similar.

Could probably find a free leveling guide.
But like the addon, waypoint system and how it adjusts itself on the fly.

I used a Zygor guide in BC. It sucked for boxing because you get out of sync with the guide. I guess their new addon lets you pickup anywhere which would be nice. One bad thing about boxing is the guides usually have you do crappy collections which I try to skip. I heard the expansion is full of collections and phasing. I do not look forward to leveling.

[naPS]

Yup. Lots of collection, and lots of phasing. Gonna be a blast.

[Ualaa]

The Kopp/Joana guides were great for Vanilla/BC.
The Extreme Leveling, was good for solo but not so great for boxing in WotLK.

Haven't tried the Zygor one, but it seems the best rated.

Not even sure I'll buy a guide this time around, but 30 bucks or whatever isn't much.
And I didn't do the beta, and do like to have an idea of where to go, etc.

[EaTCarbS]

The Kopp/Joana guides were great for Vanilla/BC.
The Extreme Leveling, was good for solo but not so great for boxing in WotLK.

Haven't tried the Zygor one, but it seems the best rated.

Not even sure I'll buy a guide this time around, but 30 bucks or whatever isn't much.
And I didn't do the beta, and do like to have an idea of where to go, etc.

With everything Blizzard has done to make questing easy, It seems silly to me to even buy a leveling guide :p

[crowdx]

I use the Zygor Guide from time to time with team, it works pretty well, it would be more worthwhile with the expansion though, not knowing where to go :)

[Tonuss]

Hey there guys,

How are you planning to level up to 85? Anyone knows if there are a lot of multibox-unfriendly quests in cataclysm?
I plan to solo level at least two of my characters (shaman and rogue) and probably three of them (hunter). I like playing those classes solo and they also cover most of my professions (cooking, fishing, herbalism, mining, skinning, and enchanting). I plan to run BGs occasionally with the hunter and rogue to slowly build up honor points for 85.

After that I will look into leveling some of the multiboxed groups I have, probably starting with the 1x shaman/4x hunter group since they are 80 (well, one hunter is 78 but that can be quickly fixed).

[Littleburst]

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/november/levelflow.jpg

Quite an usefull map.

[Tyval]

Was looking at the map, Seems one thing that might work better for boxers is to skip ahead to say lvl 82-83 stuff, as with boxing it won't be too difficult and can then avoid crowds.

Not having been involved in Beta though I'm not sure if that is doable and exactly where one would go to get start. I think I read somewhere that all the quests are kind of chained. So might require starting in a new zone.

Is the Deepholm zone the underwater one?

Wonder if starting in Uldum might be doable (mostly in avoiding crowds)

[Kalyse]

Was looking at the map, Seems one thing that might work better for boxers is to skip ahead to say lvl 82-83 stuff, as with boxing it won't be too difficult and can then avoid crowds.

Not having been involved in Beta though I'm not sure if that is doable and exactly where one would go to get start. I think I read somewhere that all the quests are kind of chained. So might require starting in a new zone.

Is the Deepholm zone the underwater one?

Wonder if starting in Uldum might be doable (mostly in avoiding crowds)


You can't do that cause the quests won't be available to you.

I don't know where to start either. Any ideas where you guys are going?

[Bollwerk]

Only 2 choices if you're going to quest (which is likely the fastest way to level). Hyjal or the underwater zone (Vashj something).
I'll probably try out the underwater zone first, but if it's too annoying to box, I'll head to Hyjal.

[Ualaa]

With everything Blizzard has done to make questing easy, It seems silly to me to even buy a leveling guide :p

That is debatable.

The mini-map has an arrow for the currently selected quest.
Once you get into a rough area, that arrow disappears, leaving you wandering in a 200² yard area.
The zone map, will actually take you to a more precise location than the mini-map.

From a one quest at a time perspective, a guide is not worth the price.

But if you've ever played with one, you'll know they have you take quests in one area.
Move to another area and kill one thing.
Move to another area and take more quests.
Move to another area and kill things for two quests, loot things for one quest.
Move to another area, turn in one quest and take the follow up.
Move again and do three quests.
Go back and turn in the first set.

Which means, unlike blindly taking a quest here and another there.
You only kill/loot mobs in a given area the minimal number of times, with the most quest stacking for efficiency possible.

Whether that is worth $30 or not, is also debatable.

[Mercbeast]

How are people planning to level? I've got about 6-7 hours tonight I can play then I have to shut it down until Thursday night/friday due to exams.

I'm thinking I might do quest chains just to get my guys geared up then switch to instances.

[Ualaa]

Have mailed everything I want to list for the first seven days, to my AH toon.
Setting up Auction Pro Master, with all the items.

Not sure that I'll bother now, but was planning on have all the Icecrown Dailies done, and ready to turn in.
That's supposed to be a third of 80th, at least in beta.

I'll be bound in Stormwind, either starting there or hearthing after quest turn ins.
Purchase the new food/water.
Take the bread crumb quest for Hyjal, quests are supposed to be more densely packed.

Thinking quests... because the gear is supposed to be a huge jump up... similar to that of Classic >> Burning Crusade.
And that should be a huge advantage compared to not doing that, for instances or pvp leveling.
Chances are I'll pvp, a good chunk of the weekend.. for whatever BG is the honor weekend bonus.
Might try for herb nodes, as that is supposed to be exp's too, and I have 29 alchemists to level.

[Toned]

i played from like 12:30 - 4am PST and was able to get 81 and like 4 bubs in. I also dc'd twice and my LFD instances reset so I missed out on 100k exp there. I was also experimenting with skipping bosses to just complete LFD for the 50k exp bonus. The down side is Raz no longer helps you and you have to clear the elites on your own. This method ended up slowing me down (only did 1 run this way).

The fastest way to lvl in BRC is to clear all the trash around the bosses and then pull the boss. Soon as that boss dies just run don't loot it. "Tag" all the mobs that Raz fights first and you will get full exp. After Raz despawns go loot the boss and continue on. There were people from the top guilds on my server doing instance grinding together who were 82 about to hit 83 when I went to bed, so they were just grinding their ass off.

A couple guildies were questing at the sametime that I was online. Their exp gains seemed to be similar to what I was getting 5 boxing in LFD dungeons while they were solo questing. I think if the mob competition is relatively low and you know the quests then questing on a single toon will be faster, but I still believe dungeons to be the best way for multi-boxing. I'd suggest @82 to go to deepholm and quest so you have better gear. Otherwise you're going to start struggling if you're still in T10 in the lvl 82-83 dungeons.

[Toned]

That is debatable.

The mini-map has an arrow for the currently selected quest.
Once you get into a rough area, that arrow disappears, leaving you wandering in a 200² yard area.
The zone map, will actually take you to a more precise location than the mini-map.

From a one quest at a time perspective, a guide is not worth the price.

But if you've ever played with one, you'll know they have you take quests in one area.
Move to another area and kill one thing.
Move to another area and take more quests.
Move to another area and kill things for two quests, loot things for one quest.
Move to another area, turn in one quest and take the follow up.
Move again and do three quests.
Go back and turn in the first set.

Which means, unlike blindly taking a quest here and another there.
You only kill/loot mobs in a given area the minimal number of times, with the most quest stacking for efficiency possible.

Whether that is worth $30 or not, is also debatable.

The quest flow and quest layout is more streamlined this time around, so you can basically just take the quests and follow them they built in a natural flow.

[Tyval]

I tried to do some quests last night but as expected it was a bit dense, I basically turned in my dailies I had saved up and then went on to Hyjal. It was kind of nuts there, did the first few quests, but just didn't have the energy to fight the masses so went to bed (had to work early AM so probably for the best)

I'll log in today and if it is playable I'll do some more quests, if too packed I'll just go the dungeon route.

Wonder if the water area is less crowded...

T

[pinotnoir]

Anyone know a good resource for learning how to do the new 5 man boss fights? I really don't want to mess with the mass of people in the starting areas.

[crowdx]

I have been doing some leveling this morning and although I am in no big hurry, it does feel quite slow. Quests are giving 27k XP with no heirloom bonus, I am only about one third of the way into 81 at present :(
This is on a full team, so I would expect single to be much faster, I saw a single player ding 81 at the last quest hand in I did so that might be a good indicator if you are soloing.

[Toned]

Anyone know a good resource for learning how to do the new 5 man boss fights? I really don't want to mess with the mass of people in the starting areas.

Fight them figure out what you did wrong and kill them.

The bosses in BRC are ridiculously easy I was rather disappointed in the difficulty being too low in this instance. It's a good first instance though they added a lot of new fight mechanics.

I haven't tried the 2nd one yet I'll do that tonight when I get home. Over in the PVE Tactics and Discussions I believe some one already started threads on the new bosses.

[Tonuss]

How are people planning to level? I've got about 6-7 hours tonight I can play then I have to shut it down until Thursday night/friday due to exams.
Since I'm on an EST server, Cata would go live at 3am local time, so I just went to bed and woke up about an hour earlier than normal and was able to play for ~90 minutes before leaving for work. My rogue had 25 northrend quests queued up for turn-in, the real gain from that was that I had done a bit over 800k guild experience by the time I was done. Edit: I don't mean when I was done with the 25 northrend quests, but when I was done for the morning, which included a number of Cata quests as well.

Even at 5am server time the new zones were pretty busy, but I was able to do some of the starter quests within a reasonable time. I figure that for the first few days the crowds at prime time will make things pretty laggy, so I'll probably keep doing northrend quests. Mob exp is cut down to almost nothing, but quest reward exp is not, and I think that provides two benefits right now:

- Nearly all of my experience gains also go to guild leveling.
- I will use up almost no rested exp while doing this.

Within a couple of days the rogue will be 81, have a fair amount of rested exp, and should be able to quest without so much crowding in the new zones. I plan to level my shaman as resto with my friends whenever they log in to quest. If things are still busy in the new zones after a couple of days, I'll probably just level one of my teams, or get my fifth hunter the last level and a half that she needs for 80. Still not sure how I'll proceed exactly, and I do want to spend time just flying around Azeroth and seeing everything from the air. Lots to do, and plenty of time to do it in.

[Sanderu]

I started level my team at the EU launch. So far I've only been doing quests and played for about 17-18 hours done the underwater zone (can't spell) and am currently in Deepholm just dinged 83 on the team. The questing is not bad at all. Most quests have good respawn rates (although there are a few exceptions) and even though I'm on a PvP realm I haven't had much trouble with the other faction at all. There seems to be enough room for everyone to level.

I am not much of a fan of dungeon leveling hence why I picked the quest approach. Level 80 to 81 went a bit slower than I expected but 81-82 was very fast. 82-83 is a long run but very doable with the quests in Deepholm.

[Slats]

On MMO-Champion front page there is a 'summary' post that covers all the Cata Changes. If you click on each of the instances it opens up a page showing all about them and for each boss a short video of it being done on Beta or by these funny guys who do a blog.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2100-Cataclysm-is-going-live-THIS-WEEK!

You can either be a purist and try learn the fights yourself or you can watch the videos. I did a bit of both and TBH I enjoyed trying to execute the video strat well rather than wiping and working it out a number of times.

BRC is very easy vs Throne of Tides. From the sounds of the later dungeons it gets quite a bit more complex and movement based.

Never say it can't be done though! We will conquer everything!

[naPS]

Yeah, I farmed BRC to 82 @ about 700k / hour, so it was working out pretty good.

The trick I found for the second boss that worked really well was just to use my tank to bounce back and forth between the beams to break each of them just for a bit. This usually gave my DPS enough time to pound the boss down either before the adds spawned, or right after.

All the other bosses in the instance are a joke. It's a great way to get to 82.

I'm off to Deepholme now, and am going to farm Stonecore tonight. I've heard it's not that bad, and if it gets terrible, I can bring in a guildy for a bit to run and try to get the gear it takes to make the instance trivial.

The gathering quests in Hyjal suck. Plain and simple. The phasing isn't too bad.

Good trick I found for the jousting portion though - once you get all your guys through the first mounted quest (you have to do them 1 at a time), you can just turn that in, and leave them parked on the ledge while you do the remainder with your main. The followers will all get credit. Pretty easy 100k or so.

[Ualaa]

Found the first quest I really detest.
Went the Hyjal route.

Rescue 50 bunnies from the inferno area, for the Dryad.
Damn annoying quest, with aggro mobs all over the area.
And 20 other players in the area doing the same thing.

[Multibocks]

Wait until you have to kill 40 mobs with a dragon. Respawn seems like an hour and there are 3-5 players camping spawn points. It took me an hour to do that quest. I know it's not nice but the dickhead programmer that decided to do a long respawn should get bit by a chihuaha until he bleeds to death.

[Mercbeast]

Found the first quest I really detest.
Went the Hyjal route.

Rescue 50 bunnies from the inferno area, for the Dryad.
Damn annoying quest, with aggro mobs all over the area.
And 20 other players in the area doing the same thing.

I discovered a neat trick for this. Mount up, and then fly around spamming IWT while you you have them targeted. As soon as you get in range its cash money ;p Took me a minute or two with heavy competition to collect all mine.

[Sophie Hart]

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[MiRai]

found this info really amazing 5 hours wow!
read it for yourself: http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/world-of-warcraft-expansion-3/1138891p1.html
I guess you missed this entire thread?

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=33380

[Sophie Hart]

Where can I get it from...i hope to find a good one!!

[Khatovar]

Where can I get it from...i hope to find a good one!!

Get what from?

[naPS]

So I hit 85 with my team. Ran most of the dungeons.

The heroic versions are a nightmare right now. Most of them require one person to use a vehicle or some other thing while everyone else does something else. I think it's going to be a while before we've got these figured out for multi-boxers. The normal versions aren't too bad, I had a little trouble with the last boss of Stonecore, but other than that, I've rolled the others that I've attempted.

I'm kinda bummed. I was hoping to be able to farm these things with a team after getting some gear. The way they operate now, I'm not sure that's going to happen.