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velcomrob
10-15-2010, 11:21 PM
I'm thinking of making 1 Priest/4 Hunters.
Any thoughts? Bad idea?
ElectronDF
10-15-2010, 11:47 PM
I would say you can do anything you want. Don't let others poop on your parade. What people will say, "You can't do heroics, so why even try", "They are fun as hell, but why do it if you can't do heroics", "You won't even have to attack much other than tagging a mob since the pets (BM) will kill things for you, but don't do it since you can't do heroics".
My thoughts is I wanted to try to do same classes as my stretch more than 1 tank, 1 healer and 3 DPS. My thinking said, if you are going to put in a healer, might as well put in a tank since a tank can be a better tank than a pet. If you are going to put in a tank and a healer, why not put in a different DPS for one of the hunters since hunters don't really have buffs (pre-4.0.1). If you are going to put in a different DPS, why not put in a 2nd DPS that does more than hunters. You go from a hunter heavy group to only 1 hunter and have changed a challenge to just doing ordinary groups.
I will say, I have a priest and 4 locks and my healer gets ganged up on 98% of the time. They are all dressed alike (since all cloth), but they really look for a healer and gang up on it. Doesn't matter if in lead or not. So I would pick a healer that can tank 3-5 people while the pets and DPS kill the people. For me and my playstyle that would be a druid. It is pretty hard to kill a resto druid (even in caster form, which they will be 99% of the time now). Also, it lets you go kitty and hide for first 8 secs of the fight then you can pop out and through huge heals on whoever has aggro.
I personally went with 5 hunters, BM and Draenei (GotN-Gift of the Naaru). With freezing traps, intimidate, disengage, etc you are pretty much okay except for rogues and whirlwind warriors. But everyone pretty much hates those. I throw my pets 55-70 yards and let them chew on the people while they try to get to me. If they stop and attack my pets, I just get 45 yards away and mend pet and run away again. Good luck getting down 5 BM pets with good PVP gear on the hunters without needing a good healer.
I looked at what actually helped (buffs) and survivabiity. Hunters get buffs now, so fort is actually out since silithids can do it. Spirit buff is out since hunters don't use mana. So other than bubble, what does a priest bring? Druid has MotW (not sure if a pet can do it now), can't do thorns anymore (long CD and only 1 person), can stealth to hide to no get singled out, can dash away to let hunters get range on players and time for pets to attack. Shammy is okay, has nice buffs, but now they are replaceable by pets (str/agi is cat, hero/blood is core hound, %crit is devilsaur and wolf). Pally is good, since if you get focused, you can bubble and still heal, Kings isn't bad, might isn't super since we don't use mana, so only get 1 benefit from it, judge of insight (the light one) is cute and fun for pets, but doesn't help hunters since it is melee only (I think).
My simple thought is don't let others influence you, do what you want cause you are going to have to play with the team for hours on end.
Ughmahedhurtz
10-15-2010, 11:51 PM
Nobody knows how that will work out as pretty much every mechanic in the game except armor just changed significantly.
If it sounds fun (and hunters used to be fun as hell), go for it! And post back here when you figure out nifty stuff your group can do. :D
Ualaa
10-16-2010, 12:13 AM
I forget if it was this site or the other one, but someone very recently posted doing the Icecrown 5-man heroics, post 4.0.1 with a hunter team. I believe it was four BM Hunters, with Bear pets, plus a Priest healer.
Not saying they'll be able to do Cataclysm dungeons, but with the current changes in game, heroics are doable currently.
zenga
10-16-2010, 12:49 AM
Only thing is that you won't be able to queue for random hc's if you don't have a tank. Though queuing up with a tank toon, leave the instance, login your other dps and invite him to the group should do the trick.
velcomrob
10-16-2010, 01:56 AM
I was actually thinking of rolling druid for healign/tank.
someone told, whats the point the pets can tank.
accretion
10-16-2010, 07:12 PM
My first lvl 80 team was a Disc Priest + 4 BM hunters, way back after LK release. This team rolled face all the way up to 80, but I was disappointed at their performance in heroics. I was only able to kill an occasional boss (couldn't clear any with my ilvl 175-200 gear), and lost interest. I'd guess you could clear some heroics with that combo now, but I don't know much about the hunter changes.
velcomrob
10-16-2010, 11:45 PM
Ah! If it was difficult, I'd get disappointed to.
ill have to rethink it then
thanks for all replies
Boylston
10-17-2010, 12:04 AM
Don't waste your time:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=29874
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=27749
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=28674
Summary:
They are mediocre at best for PvP, and not really useful as a PvE team. If you are dead, dead set on multihunters in PvE, go Tank+Healer+3xHunters. If your pets can tank the content, you vastly over-gear it. For PvP, there are so many other better combinations out there. Very much not recommended for PvP.
valle2000
10-20-2010, 02:39 PM
Only thing is that you won't be able to queue for random hc's if you don't have a tank. Though queuing up with a tank toon, leave the instance, login your other dps and invite him to the group should do the trick.
Aha, can this be done? Never thought about trying that. :)
I have a 4 hunters + healer team and get annoyed by the fact I always have to travel to each dungeon.
ZooljinX
10-20-2010, 05:48 PM
my experiance with hunters is that its damn fun aslong as you can just stand and shoot shitloads of dmg, sadly, thats not often the case, usually get Mass CCd and killed way to quick :( havent done any highlvl stuff with them, abandoned them at 39.. very fun in BGs tho when you got the chance to unload!
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