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Kicksome
10-12-2010, 09:36 PM
Doing some tests, and I think I found a REALLY nice little "trick", this actually rocks. It casts lava burst anytime it's up... even with the proc!!!!!!! Just spam the key...

might need a few tweaks, but WOW, can't believe it casts lava burst anytime it's up!

For clarification - this is all in 1 macro, all 3 lines...

/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [reset=combat] flame shock, chain lightning, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, earth shock, chain lightning, lightning bolt, lightning bolt
/cast lava burst

Ualaa
10-12-2010, 10:27 PM
Very nice.

If we can put our proc type effects, where you have /cast lava burst, that will make procs a lot easier to manage.

Slats
10-12-2010, 10:32 PM
That shouldn't work. Not that I dont belive you but that is not how its supposed to work.

Have you tried the new latency control slider as well? Does that do anything?

ebony
10-12-2010, 10:43 PM
Pally tank needs some work


/castsequence reset=9 Judgement,Hammer of the Righteous,Shield of the Righteous,Hammer of the Righteous,
/cast Avenger's Shield
/cast Consecration
anace mage


/cast Presence of Mind
/castsequence [reset=combat] Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast,Arcane Blast
/cast Arcane Missiles
fire mage part 1


/castsequence Living Bomb, Scorch,Scorch,Scorch,Scorch,Scorch,Scorch,Scorch
/cast Fire Blast
/cast Mirror Image
firemage part 2 (key2)


/stopcasting
/cast Pyroblast
/stopcasting

thanks kicksome! i been trying this all night and each i system i put in works any cooldown works

destrction warlock part1


/castsequence Bane of Agony,Curse of Tongues,Corruption,Curse of Tongues,Immolate,Conflagrate,Incinerate,Incinerate ,Incinerate
/cast Chaos Bolt

destrction warlock part2


/stopcasting
/cast Soul Fire
/stopcasting

zenga
10-12-2010, 10:50 PM
FYG, this method was also discussed previously in this thread (http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?p=297657).

d0z3rr
10-12-2010, 10:58 PM
Nice! Thanks for the info.

Coltimar
10-12-2010, 11:00 PM
My dps on my warlocks is actually better :)

I'm using this:


/castsequence reset=combat Curse of the Elements,null
/use 13
/use 14
/castsequence reset=combat Immolate,Conflagrate,Chaos Bolt,Life Tap,Incinerate,Incinerate,Conflagrate,Immolate,Cha os Bolt,Conflagrate,Incinerate,Soul Fire,Incinerate,Incinerate

This needs a ton of work, but I'm pleased with what I've seen so far.

kate
10-12-2010, 11:05 PM
For my elemental shaman, I'm using:

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt

It lets me take full advantage of fulminate and also not lose my Lava Burst crits.

I'm using that paladin tanking macro, and there's a nice spot that crops up every 20 seconds or so that's ideal for putting consecrate in. If I can figure out how to make a super long castsequence macro, I think this will be really quite easy to handle.

zenga
10-12-2010, 11:43 PM
Why don't you take the 2nd lava burst out of your rotation kate and just add /cast lava burst? This way you'll make full use of lava surge that can reset the cooldown of lava burst?

kate
10-12-2010, 11:46 PM
Why don't you take the 2nd lava burst out of your rotation kate and just add /cast lava burst? This way you'll make full use of lava surge that can reset the cooldown of lava burst?

Will that actually work? For some reason, I thought that it would hang up if Lava Burst wasn't reset.

Just so I'm clear, you're suggesting:

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock , Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt
/cast Lava Burst

I removed the 2nd LB from the sequence and added another Lighting Bolt to the end to keep the timing more or less the same. I'll give it a try the next time I'm logged in! Thanks for the suggestion.

Kicksome
10-13-2010, 12:43 AM
kate, don't use any Lava Bursts in the castsequence

daviddoran
10-13-2010, 12:47 AM
I made a similar one for my mage, simply put it is

/castsequence arcane blast,arcane blast,arcane blast,arcane blast
/cast arcane missiles

it shouldn't work the way I understand macros, but it does, and casts AM every time its up. I might try putting in missile barrage, if mana usage is too high.

ebony
10-13-2010, 01:24 AM
macros been changed if they done it to help or if its a bug who knows but use it as we still can ill keep a eye on beta see if i see any changes

Starbuck_Jones
10-13-2010, 01:41 AM
My current prot pally macro looks like.

/castsequence reset=9 Judgement,Hammer of the Righteous,Shield of the Righteous,Hammer of the Righteous,Word of Glory

And I have Avengers shield and Holy Wrath on two seperate buttons and all 3 bundled in a /click. Seems to work ok. DPS is the suck. Im at 2k dps and I dont see a way to increase it to the 5k I was at before. Also I cant hold agro anymore. Its like trying to tank w/o Righteous Fury up. I also could not see a dps or threat difference between Hammer and Crusader Strike so until things change I see no reason to ever use Crusader Strike as prot. Crits seem to be the biggest loss in dps. Gone are the 10-15k crits of judgement and hammer. Now the only thing that crits for anything is Avengers Shield in the 7-9k range. Even a 3 power garuntee crit of shield only pops for about 7k.

I also could not get a castsequence to cast two or three hammers in a row with the 3s cool down. It would just jump to the next spell either Shield, Judgement,Word

TheShox
10-13-2010, 02:30 AM
Check this post out for Paladin tank rotation:

http://rhida.ch/2010/10/07/the-maybe-so-feasible-possible-new-single-target-rotation-for-4-0-1/

Here is another good post

http://rhida.ch/2010/09/30/everything-you-need-to-know-about-prot-and-4-0-1-at-80/

Crusader Strike needs to be used a lot more for single target. There will be a AoE rotation and a Single Target rotation that is very different. Until 81, HoPo can be dumped with ShoR if not using Word of Glory.

With the posted cast sequence in this thread, ShoR only hits for 20% AP, so if that is what is being used, then threat will be super low. Same for damage/dps.

Try something like this:

/castsequence reset=15/combat Avenger's Shield,Crusader Strike,Judgement,Crusader Strike,Holy Wrath,Crusader Strike,Shield of the Righteous, Crusader Strike,Judgement,Crusader Strike,Avenger's Shield,Crusader Strike,Shield of the Righteous

The above is 239 chars. Always start with AS and not Judgement or the rotation will be off.

P.S. - Yea this started out as an Elem DPS thread.. maybe we can rename it to 4.0.1/Cata Macros?

coglistings
10-13-2010, 03:28 AM
kate, don't use any Lava Bursts in the castsequence

/agree

I think they are talking about using proc timers / bars and yourself pressing a /cast lava burst when it is up

Zub
10-13-2010, 04:11 AM
i've been using the macro described by the OP (normal castsequence, including Earthshock) and LvB on a separate button and it's working well for me.
I've also added lifeblood (added haste) as another separate /click button

all in all my solo dps improved from 3.8k to 4.4k on dummies since this patch.

my paladin is another story however, but he manages to still keep agro

kate
10-13-2010, 08:23 AM
/agree

I think they are talking about using proc timers / bars and yourself pressing a /cast lava burst when it is up

Oh - so, just so I'm clear, I might have:

Button 1:
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt

Button 2:
/cast Lava Burst

And then just mash the both of em?

I can do that!

And yes, I know, I probably need fewer Lightning Bolts in there, or more, depending on my haste - I'll be calibrating this tonight!

Edit: I am a dummy, I didn't realize that the way macros work had been changed. That has to be unintended, but if it isn't, yeesh, boxing just got a whole lot easier!

daviddoran
10-13-2010, 08:50 AM
Using this idea, I got my ele shaman, destro lock and arcane mage to hit over 8k DPS self buffed on the target dummy. This is insanely good. Once i get around to reactivating my other 2 accts I'll work on my hunter and priest. I hear shadowpriests got some sweet buffs.

I do hope that this is not a mistake, and that it continues to work this way. Otherwise, mashing 2 buttons may be the only option.

Zub
10-13-2010, 09:03 AM
Oh - so, just so I'm clear, I might have:

Button 1:
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt

Button 2:
/cast Lava Burst

And then just mash the both of em?

I can do that!

And yes, I know, I probably need fewer Lightning Bolts in there, or more, depending on my haste - I'll be calibrating this tonight!

Edit: I am a dummy, I didn't realize that the way macros work had been changed. That has to be unintended, but if it isn't, yeesh, boxing just got a whole lot easier!
rather:
in your button 1 put the /castsequence followed by
/click MultiBarBottomLeftButton1

on your left button of the bottom left action bar, drag the lava burst spell.
mash button1 only, your lvb will cast whenever available


on that note, how does it work for more spells? for example avangers shield and consecration/judgement?
they go off when using 3x /click but seem to follow an order

wyofiddler
10-13-2010, 09:18 AM
Forgive me, I read this whole thread twice but I'm not really following the change to macro function and how it effects casting exactly. It looks to me like the same thing I've been using with my druid tank macro that looked something like this (from memory, not exact!)

/castsequence reset=combat Mangle, Lacerate, Lacerate
/castrandom Maul

This worked just fine before the patch and whatever changed with macro function, rotating through the cast sequence and firing maul every time it was available and I had the rage for it.

Is this the same idea that is being discussed here? Or are we able to call 2nd, 3rd etc buttons inside the macro like we did with click, and the ability will fire if it can and not hang the macro if it can't fire (i.e. not off CD yet), and the only thing that really changed is that we can't time macro spam speed with commas like we did previously with /click?

Maybe I answered my own question, it made a lot more sense as I thought it through to write it down LOL :)

crowdx
10-13-2010, 09:50 AM
So I have thought about the way the macro's work and if blizzard just wanted to remove the automation which was possible with the comma system, then removing the wait on each spell to become available is actually a good alternative and works for the general community, not just people who knew about commas and click macros.
I am going to be optimistic and say that this was intentional :)

zenga
10-13-2010, 09:54 AM
Only question really is how did no one notice this change on the PTR?

scroll and read up to the link in my previous post

crowdx
10-13-2010, 09:56 AM
scroll and read up to the link in my previous post

LOL, hard to keep track Zenga :)

EaTCarbS
10-13-2010, 10:17 AM
The only one I feel is going to be a real pain is my boomkin.

cmeche
10-13-2010, 10:54 AM
omg......just tested this macro and lol'ed a good bit.:)

.....and 19k damage Earthshock ftw!

zenga
10-13-2010, 11:00 AM
Oh - so, just so I'm clear, I might have:

Button 1:
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=combat Flame Shock, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt

Button 2:
/cast Lava Burst

And then just mash the both of em?

I can do that!

And yes, I know, I probably need fewer Lightning Bolts in there, or more, depending on my haste - I'll be calibrating this tonight!

Edit: I am a dummy, I didn't realize that the way macros work had been changed. That has to be unintended, but if it isn't, yeesh, boxing just got a whole lot easier!

I'd rather not weave chain lightning into the rotation, single target it's a clear dps loss. What i'm gonna do is having 1 castseqyence with fs, lb, lb .... tied up with lava burst in a click macro so, lvb goes off on every cooldown, and have chain lightning on a separate button, so i can decide myself when to cast it (against >1 target it's a dps gain).

kate
10-13-2010, 11:12 AM
I'd rather not weave chain lightning into the rotation, single target it's a clear dps loss. What i'm gonna do is having 1 castseqyence with fs, lb, lb .... tied up with lava burst in a click macro so, lvb goes off on every cooldown, and have chain lightning on a separate button, so i can decide myself when to cast it (against >1 target it's a dps gain).

What I was thinking is that I would have 4 keys that I use, situationally -

1: Single target tank ONLY - to start off/generate threat on bosses
2: Single target Tank & DPS - once threat has been established, switch to this
3: AOE tank ONLY - to begin generating AOE threat
4: AOE tank & DPS - same as 2, but including Chain Lightning into the rotation, and possibly nova (though that might be a separate key, because for some fights they will be far away from nova range)

I really *do* hope the changes in macro functionality were intentional, but just in case they aren't, I'm kind of mentally preparing myself to go from a pack of lava and lightning spewing space goat goddesses to... well, a pack of slightly less amazing lava and lightning space goats.

Sam DeathWalker
10-13-2010, 11:37 AM
Well although this is not alowed:

/cast
/cast

But this is?

/castsequence
/click

And this is?

/castsequence
/castrandom

Well looks like I need to rewrite most everything.

Looks very questionable if it is intended. Why even make two /cast in the same macro illegal if you are going to allow the other two?


With the set FPS forground and background commands in the Video Section looks like Blizzard is for sure allowing multiboxing. Now if they would set up their texture loading to accont for multiple clients (if they don't which I kinda doubt it). I.E. if all clients need a particular texture they would all share just one of them.

Bloodcloud
10-13-2010, 11:56 AM
anyone working on a Blood DK tank rotation? EJ is pretty cryptic about it....

Alemi
10-13-2010, 01:26 PM
Forgive me, I read this whole thread twice but I'm not really following the change to macro function and how it effects casting exactly. It looks to me like the same thing I've been using with my druid tank macro that looked something like this (from memory, not exact!)

/castsequence reset=combat Mangle, Lacerate, Lacerate
/castrandom Maul


Maul's functionality changed completely with 4.01 and is no longer an "on next swing attack" operating as a toggle on/off. Maul will never fire in your macros case as, since these are all melee abilities and instant, the GCD will be triggered after your castsequence and the castrandom will never be allowed to process.

Maul is just a standard fill in your rotation now along with Pulverize and Swipe.


The only one I feel is going to be a real pain is my boomkin.

Boomkin isn't too bad at all - though I admit I haven't been able to find a way to use Sunfire when in a solar eclipse state without running into the potential of hanging up a macro. I may end up specing out of it.

Button 1 - Bar 1
/castsequence [nochanneling] reset=combat Insect Swarm, Moonfire, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire
/cast Starsurge

Button 2 - Bar 1
/changeactionbar 2

Button 1 - Bar 2
/castsqeuence [nochanneling] reset=combat Insect Swarm, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath
/cast Starsurge

Button 2- Bar 2
/changeactionbar 1

The only addition is the bar switch when you hit at eclipse state. Switch bars and then continue mashing your first button. You'll cast Starsurge every time it's up, and take advantage of the Shooting Stars procs.

Ualaa
10-13-2010, 01:42 PM
For the IS Boxer users...

If you don't want to mess with Bar Switches, you can set up toggles quite easily.
This could reduce four DPS keys to two quite easily too.

Create a mapped key, which uses Button 1 as the hotkey, and outputs to wherever you put your Button 1/Bar 1 macro. You could even place it on a bar which is not visible, for less clutter.
Create another mapped key, which uses Button 1 as the hotkey, and outputs to wherever you put the macro which would have resided on Button 1/Bar2, in your example. Again you can hide the macro, if you desire.

Have IS Boxer start with one of the mapped keys enabled and the other disabled.

Create another mapped key, with two steps.
Step 1 will activate one of the mapped keys and disable the other.
Step 2 will reverse the process.
You can include Text Warnings in your mapped key.

Now you spam a single key.
And when you want to switch to the opposite Eclipse State, hit your toggle.



You could easily adapt this to your Tank Only vs Tank + DPS spam.
Have both the Single Target and AoE keys output to members of your DPS Group.
And have say two toggle keys.
First one is two steps, and adds/removes DPS from the DPS Group.
Second one is two steps, and adds/removes the Healer from the DPS Group.
Irregardless of these two Toggle mapped keys, the Tank is part of the DPS Group.

So now you spam either "1" for single target or "2" for AoE threat/killing.
If you want only the tank to be doing damage, press your toggle to remove DPS from those keys.
If the content is trivial, ie, current heroics, you can toggle your healer into the DPS.

kate
10-13-2010, 11:21 PM
Holy poop.

I swapped out the macro I posted previously for a slightly modified (to account for haste) version of the macro in this thread.

My DPS prior to the patch was below 2k pretty much.

With the macro I posted in this thread it went up to about 2500.

With the new macro it's around 3500.

Yeah, this rocks :)