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stephanierose

10-12-2010, 05:32 PM

Hey all,

Well, I've had three accounts for awhile now, but it wasn't until I was in an AB in WoW and saw a druid team single handedly five cap (I just want you to picture five druids popping treants - 15 treants!!!! zomg!!!!) that I decided I may as well start putting my multiple accounts to good use.

Here's the major problem: I don't know a thing about scripts or registries or any of that. I've been a hardcore raiding WoW player for years (BC I was a rogue with warglaives, top 100 guild worldwide), but if someone told me to check my computer processes, I wouldn't even know where to go. (Slight exaggeration, it's in that ctrl alt delete thingy, which is now gone with my new windows 7, so right NOW I don't know where to go)

My computer is pimped out enough to run five clients at once if I wanted to. What I'm looking for is a USER FRIENDLY multiboxing software that takes minimal setup, and doesn't take long to learn the ins and outs of it.

Also, are there any programs people use that offer a trial? I'm so scared to commit to something, pay the $$$, and not understand any of it.

Thank you SO much for your time, and I'm looking forward to talking to you Pro-Mboxers. :)

EDITED: I read the wiki guides and got a LITTLE overwhelmed, again resulting in my major problem of needing something user friendly. Just wanted to let you know I did try snooping around - ISBoxer looked pretty good, and I've applied for a trial. Would still like your take on the best user friendly programs for a total nub.

MiRai

10-12-2010, 05:41 PM

My computer is pimped out enough to run five clients at once if I wanted to. What I'm looking for is a USER FRIENDLY multiboxing software that takes minimal setup, and doesn't take long to learn the ins and outs of it.
If you've never multiboxed before, then no software will take minimal setup and a short time to learn. HotKeyNet (http://hotkeynet.com/) is free, but you have to write scripts for your setup. Keyclone (http://www.solidice.com/keyclone/index.html) is not free and offers a trial [24 hours?], but you're stuck setting up 4,381 macros in game and it has not been updated in quite awhile. ISBoxer (http://www.lavishsoft.com/dual-boxing) is not free but has a 7 day free trial, is considered by many [myself included] to be the most powerful and flexible multiboxing tool around, and is updated on a very regular basis. Past these 3 software choices, you may find minimal support here as most people here don't use anything else.

Siaea

10-12-2010, 05:42 PM

Well, there's ISBoxer ($10 for 90 days, or $36 for a year). It was a little bit tricky for me to set up, and I consider myself relatively smart on computers. Could have been the beer. Once it 'clicked', though, it was mere minutes to set up my other teams.

There's KeyClone, which I've used about 3 years. It takes minutes to set up, and is still a very nice software. It's $20 for lifetime.

There's several free ones, but I believe they all require scripts, but premade ones are usually found pretty easily.

Then you have the single must have: Jamba. It's a WoW addon that automates a lot of tasks inside WoW, such as your slaves doing the same thing when talking to quest givers, selling greys, etc, etc. It's free, of course.

stephanierose

10-12-2010, 05:54 PM

Seems like ISBoxer is probably the one.

I was looking at Keyclone - but that's for multiple computers, correct? I only have the one (though I have two screens). I appreciate the feedback that has probably been said before. :rolleyes:

Jamba I need ALONG with ISBoxer?

Tin

10-12-2010, 06:05 PM

KC can be used for one computer - if you want to use it on multiple computers, you have to buy multiple too.

Have used KC for 2 years - but are now on ISBoxer and not looking back

Ualaa

10-12-2010, 06:07 PM

With Keyclone, you need one license per computer.
You can run several accounts on the one PC, assuming the PC is strong enough.
I started with three (went to five, within a day) accounts on one PC, with Keyclone.

I'd strongly recommend IS Boxer as your boxing software.
To my knowledge, nothing else is close in terms of power, flexibility, and relative ease of use.
HKN is almost as powerful, but requires knowledge of its scripts if you want to change something from the defaults.

There are a lot of software options beyond these, but my recommendation is IS Boxer.

The wizard gets you a functional interface very quickly.
You won't need many (if any) warcraft macros, although I like to have a lot of macros in warcraft and have IS Boxer send keybinds to my warcraft clients.
At a simple level, drag your Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Shadow Bolt and Wrath spells to button #1 in warcraft on each of your four toons (or two, or five, whatever).
When you press "1" in game, the non-active toons will assist the active toon, and they'll all cast whatever is on "1" at the current toon's target.

There are a lot of videos and such on how to set things up, find these on www.isboxer.com.
I've got a fairly detailed guide on the software in my signature.
If you have problems, quite a few knowledgeable people frequent this site, Lax frequently checks the IS Boxer forums on his site, and there is an IRC to ask a question in as well.

Jafula

10-12-2010, 07:35 PM

Jamba I need ALONG with ISBoxer?

No, you don't need Jamba at all. ISBoxer works fine without it, but if you use Jamba, ISBoxer works with Jamba.

(But why you wouldn't want my awesome addon is beyond me!)

stephanierose

10-12-2010, 08:20 PM

No, you don't need Jamba at all. ISBoxer works fine without it, but if you use Jamba, ISBoxer works with Jamba.

(But why you wouldn't want my awesome addon is beyond me!)

I lol'ed.

I had actually already downloaded Jamba a few days ago before deciding on software after seeing screenshots of the interface, but couldn't access the interface when I was in game. I'm really a moron when it comes to setting up addons, though I have MANY (oh so many) running.

I'm hoping as soon as WoW is up I can do some troubleshooting myself - but now I know where to track you down if I still can't access the interface. /evil laugh

I'm definitely going with ISBoxer and decided I was too impatient to wait for them to accept me for a 7 day. What's 10$ anyways? Reasonable for 90 days, for sure. I really appreciate all the responses - I can't tell you how much I really just needed SUPPORT of people who have been doing it flat out TELLING me what to do. I don't know anyone who multiboxes, so I was extremely overwhelmed.

Thanks again! And I'll keep you posted on where this takes me. I'm sure I'll have many troubleshooting questions in the coming days.

ElectronDF

10-12-2010, 09:27 PM

We all started out small, or at least I did. We also walked up Mt Hyjal in the snow without boots both ways. My simpliest thing to offer is start small. Get 2 chars to /follow. Then /assist. Then add in a macro to do /cast. Then after you are good at that, add in nicer/fancier stuff, like options in macros /cast [options] Spell. Then add in 3rd and more players will be too easy since you already have 90% of it down. The knowledge grows. They keybinds and macros grow. Don't worry if at first all you can do is auto-attack. That is a start. You can add in more stuff later (Interact with Target, accept all macro, dealing with people not in the same group---BG/WG/ToL).

Things that I like. Authenticators, if they get one account, they could have all 5, that is a lot of work to lose. I hate targeting things, so I love [options] in spells to do the targeting for me. /cast [@focus-target] DPSSpell, /cast [@focus-target-target] HealSpell. I like to do objectives in PVP, so when a little snappy kid tries to say I must suck at PVP that I have to play 5 chars, I say, "Capture an objective then mouth off". That usually shuts up the HKers.

Welcome, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask, and good luck.

Jafula

10-12-2010, 10:50 PM

Just a heads up, Jamba is broken due to 4.01 patch at the moment. I'm working on fixing the issues...

stephanierose

10-12-2010, 11:57 PM

OK, I have ISBoxer (not running jamba until it's fixed by the D) and it's really pretty, but I'm near tears.

I'm so overwhelmed.

My mages are adorable - three of them. I ran the wizard, and the program opens them up. (WoW)

From there - I'm lost. If I'm broadcasting, whatever I do on one screen, the other screens do - only, I'll tab target and two of my mages will target the wrong mob. Follows break when I'm broadcasting, they stay while I'm not broadcasting but only one mage does anything . . .

The toolkit speaks greek.

It's possible I'm just not cut out for this, but where is a step by step guide to make this work? The video makes it look so easy, but I can see him shift clicking and alt clicking and none of it is explained.

I may not know a lot about computers, but I'm not a stupid person. This should be something I can catch onto.

Would someone be willing to get on vent or skype or a chatroom with me and help walk me through the basics? From there I can learn as I go, but right now I just can't seem to figure out what the basics even ARE (there's just too much).

phew. Ok. Deep breaths. :)

Thanks.

Ualaa

10-13-2010, 12:05 AM

I'd recommend the guide in my signature.

Basically you have Mapped Keys (Keymaps are groups of Mapped Keys) and Repeater Mode.
Between the two, you manage how you want to broadcast.

If both are on, then Keymaps take precedent over Repeater.

You'll probably want Keymaps on and Repeater off, for most of your play.
If you don't have a mapped key for Tab, then with Keymaps on and Repeater off, only the master will Tab.
And when you press "1", then the other toons will assist the master and cast their stuff.

Repeater is used (with Keymaps Off), for having everyone do something like: /Dance or Entering your password.

I leave Keymaps on, and enable Repeater, when I want to have everyone click on a portal or select talent points or configure my UI.

I turn both off, when I want to chat with only a single toon, and not have the other toons cast stuff or repeat what I'm saying.

coglistings

10-13-2010, 03:49 AM

No, you don't need Jamba at all. ISBoxer works fine without it, but if you use Jamba, ISBoxer works with Jamba.

(But why you wouldn't want my awesome addon is beyond me!)

I'd say that regardless of what software you use to broadcast your keyclicks / macros / gameclient stuff, you really do need jamba. There is no addon I have come across that made my boxing easier than Jamba. I think that you will agree as well.

peace

ZooljinX

10-13-2010, 05:35 AM

ok, a small tip, i felt like you in the begining, try taking it slow, make one thing at a time, like Keymaps is a good start. make sure you have a "basic" understanding of it (ualaa's guide is good very neat), then move on to next area you need to setup, this will take siome time before you can actaully start playing but makes it oh so much better to play :)

to make a "basic" lvling setup you dont need to do much more then to learn Keymap, how repeater works, maby your own window layout and how to setup a team, go slow and DONT copypaste when you do keymaps and such, write them yourself, helped me alot in learning!

Good luck, if you need any help or chat send me a PM.

David

10-13-2010, 06:48 AM

Would someone be willing to get on vent or skype or a chatroom with me and help walk me through the basics? From there I can learn as I go, but right now I just can't seem to figure out what the basics even ARE (there's just too much).

There is an option in ISboxer at the bottom that sends you to the ISboxer chat. People there van offer a lot of help.

Are you us/eu which server?

Bollwerk

10-13-2010, 04:38 PM

Might also be worth mentioning that when I switched from Keyclone to IS Boxer, I had problems until I just renamed my WTF directory and reset all my key bindings in WoW to the defaults (for each toon).

tanknspanker

10-13-2010, 04:49 PM

what server are you playing atm? :) might have been me ^^ moomoo team :D

Apps

10-15-2010, 12:29 PM

This thread just tore at me. Steph, I too have seen the apeal of multiboxing, and I too have decided to invest the time and costs to learn it. I too am starting right out of the cellophane. I do consider myself computer savy, and I am good with WoW. I havnt even started.

How about I do this with you? Kinda a nooblet team...lol. I am in Eredar, a PVP server, however I want to change to a PVE server when I start. I figure if I can box 3, I can do any number...well within reason.

I have the Wow addon, and I have ISboxer.

From what Ive read, some of the original informaion is a little off now with the new patch. Stuff needs updated, and then debugged after updated. (I think some updates are already done.) the keybindings and emulators are gonna be my only tricky spot.

I love youtube. Its so easy to SEE someone do it, and then pause it, and go do it myself.

So...
Me = using software to copy functions from mouse and keyboard... using ISboxer... starting on a new server.. dunno which yet. (if you like to PM me, and tell me which server you are on, id be happy to do it with you)

Good luck to both of us.!

PS the link from here...

Video - how to set up your very first WoW team (http://www.wemultibox.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74) <- Absolutely mandatory reading if you're completely new to boxing!!!

...doesnt work.

stephanierose

10-17-2010, 02:13 PM

Well - things are definitely broken

Apparently, it's just me. My roommate downloaded the software and set up his three accounts using the wizard. Popped in game with no problems: toons autofollowed, they assisted, everything was magical.

SAME SETTINGS, SAME STEPS, MINE DOESN'T WORK

We uninstalled and reinstalled ISBoxer, thinking maybe I just broke it beyond repair.

We are both running Windows 7. We are both running the same version of ISBoxer and Inner Space. Everything about our computers is nearly identical when it comes to software. (his hardware is slightly more advanced and expensive). We even made mage teams on both computers beginning at level 1 so everything would be identical.

When I load my team, I cannot get my characters to autofollow on character switch, or assist me in killing a target. I can't get them to do anything, tbh.

I've spent probably 10-15 hours trying to get mine to work, using all available guides - he loads the program and runs the wizard and it's flawless, exactly how I imagined.

I'm not sure what to do at this point.

To answer some earlier questions, I'm on US-Doomhammer, and I'd be more than happy to share my in game information with anyone who would be willing to assist me. I'm also open to desktop sharing with someone who has that capability that could troubleshoot my ISBoxer. I'd even put you up in my house and feed you 3 square meals a day, if that's what it takes. ;) Anything at this point, as both my roommate and myself are completely baffled.

MiRai

10-17-2010, 03:10 PM

stephanierose

10-17-2010, 05:14 PM

Give that man a GOLD STAR!

I cannot believe it was something as simple as turning on the addon. I'd been running clean because of the new patch, making sure everything was turned off so I wouldn't encounter any bizarre errors while addon Dev's figure out their kinks.

You, sir, are my hero, and your pie will be in the mail.

I can't WAIT to get started now!

Apps

10-18-2010, 01:13 PM

I did the very same thing... sort of. I actually was playing the game with 4 slaves with the repeater running al lthe time. It was quite difficult. I made multi macros, and changed the keybindings in ISBoxer, and changed the key bindings in game. (granted there still is some of that required anyway).

5 accounts, trying to move as one. 5 accounts casting, 5 accounts looting as one, 5 accounts quest gather/turn in, 5 mouse clicks, 5 camera angles trying to work as one.... ill stop there.

"Turn off the repeater" says Lax.

-_-

Dont work. thanks for nothing...

"Logout, and enable ISBoxer" says Lax.

-_-

Have a good day.

Apps

10-19-2010, 10:48 AM

Stephanierose,
So, I considered making a new thread for this subject, however, I felt its close enough to the original topic.

I thought I would do a "from a beginers view", as we start through this.

(I went with ISBoxer)

Instructions from DB and IS-Boxer seem to be dead on thus far.
Downloaded ISBoxer Trial
Downloaded Jamba

READ THE QUICK START GUIDE SLOWLY, AND COMPLETELY!!!

srsly....

READ THE QUICK START GUIDE! (I had to re-read it about 4 times, then realized its got about 99% of what you need already covered)

Open WoW, and create the toons.
(NOTE!: I found this out the hard way. If you have more than one copy of WoW located on your HD, or running multiple HDs, OR you are running with multiple computers, or a compination of computers and software, you MUST log into each toon after you create them, with the original WoW program thats located in your c:\Program files\World of warcraft\wow.exe..... IF you do not do this, the ISboxer software start up wizard wont be able to easily locate your extra toons)
Open IS-boxer, and start the setup wizard. Its very self explanitory.
export the new team.
(be sure wow is not running or open)
Launch the team from the ISBoxer or from the icon in the system tray bar for windows.
(NOTE!: If you have an authenticator, logging in is anoying right now, cause you cant do all of them at the same time. You'll need to log in each one at a time.)
(NOTE!: at the character selection screen, click on "Addon" and double check that ISBoxer is enabled. I recomend for the first time, to disable all other addons, but this, so you get the feel for it)
Upper left corner, make sure the keymapper is on (Green arrows), and the repeater or broadcasting, is off (grey arrows)
Enter the game for each toon.
Simply clicking on one of the screens, will / should set autofollow to the one you are currently on. (nice function)
Press SHIFT+ALT+I (as in Igloo, not L as in Larry). All your toons will auto join a group / party.

Now, you can run, jump, kill, gain exp, all at the same time. From here you are going through the software to setup personalized settings, and going through other tutorials to set up keybinds for "Interact with Target"... you need this to be able to loot effectively, if you have quests where you are required to loot mobs for quest items.

Looting:

There are many ways to do this.

FFA loot, and play one screen, loot all, complete quest, swap screens, repeat your process for that toon, and so on... till done.
masterloot, and choose to deliver loot... anoying and situational imo
assign keybindings , and set up ISBoxer using the instructions from the quick setup. (its long-ish, but thurough enough to get it done right)
set camera angles on all slaves to fixed position, set up mouse movements, and loot with "broadcasting on" (what a pain this is)
Quest NPCs:
You can set this up within the settings in ISBoxer, and in Jamba. Just take about 30 mins and go through the 5+ pages of settings and you can get this set up once.

I am currently still raiding with several of my 80s in ICC, so my multiboxing time is a bit short right now. However:

(4) hunters - Horde - Doomhammer, current level as of today is 7. I did those in about 30 mins of play. Its funny watching (4) level 4 hunters do arcane shot, as pets run in, attacking a level 7 mob, and it die either immediately, or within 1-2 seconds. Even more fun, is doing it right as a level 6 died.... as I dont even stop or loot, just tab target the next one and FIRE!

stephanierose

10-19-2010, 01:17 PM

I totally forgot to mention I'm alliance. That is a massive failure on my part. But I'll roll horde with you! I'm running low on Doomhammer slots, what server are you on? Maybe I'll just come over to yours. :)

-Steph

Oh, also, I thought maybe you could roll three and I'd run two and we'd group at the beginning, just so we could share new discoveries in commands and things like that. Let me know what you think!

Apps

10-19-2010, 02:26 PM

I totally forgot to mention I'm alliance.

OH NO!!!! ROFL. ok, well I was going to go to Gorefiend and make some toons there to hang out with Viod and Mogs. They got a multiboxer guild there. Horde.

I'll go make (3) of something... i dunno yet. I need to learn now to do (1) tank, (1) dps, and (1) healer. Perhaps ill make me some druids. If you think this is acceptable, ill post my toons names here later.