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lightstriker
10-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Now that Cata changes Classic WoW map and questing, can new players just buy vanilla WoW and play? Or do they have to buy all the xpacks just to get started? That would really suck. I have been following development but havent come across anything about this. Are they gonna pack the first 3 into a super low price of $40? Just curious.

Zub
10-06-2010, 10:29 PM
i'm curious about this as well.

Also, will the world be broken for all on release day, or is there a chain of events that each one of us must follow to get in a phased broken world (like the wrathgate event for example)

Maxion
10-06-2010, 11:21 PM
The old world changes will be available to all players. There will be no old version of the world left in the game.

MiRai
10-06-2010, 11:23 PM
Yes, vanilla WoW will show the cataclysmic changes. The Cataclysm expansion will get you level 85, Worgen/Goblin, etc.

Edit: Maxion posts faster than I do.

Khatovar
10-06-2010, 11:25 PM
From my understanding, patch 4.0.3 is something everyone will get. That'll be the new talents and the changes to the old world and old quests. Cataclysm will be required for the new races, 80-85, etc.

Blues -


Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26726037173&sid=1&pageNo=2#25)


Ah, this means we can expect maybe...the new race/class combos? Quest changes? Only time will tell.

New race/class combinations and changes to the old world (including quests) should be patch 4.0.3. I know it's kind of confusing since we typically release one major patch right before the release of the next expansion. In this case, many of the systems changes will be added in 4.0.1, while a lot of content changes will be added in 4.0.3.

The expansion will then provide players with access to the new races, new zones, level 85 cap, flight in Azeroth, Archaeology, etc.


Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26726037173&sid=1&pageNo=2#31)

Let me know if I got this right:

Patch 4.0.1 will launch several weeks before Cataclysm ships, similar to 2.0.1 and 3.0.2. It will include:


- New launcher
- Class changes
- Stat changes
- Talent tree overhaul
- Glyph changes
- Reforging?
- Mastery? (although it might not be useful until Cataclysm)


Patch 4.0.3 will launch shortly before Cataclysm ships. Based on what Tom Chilton and others have said, this will include (without purchase of Cataclysm):


- Cataclysm intro cinematic and login screen
- Revamped classic Eastern Kingdom and Kalimdor zones
- New race/class combinations for existing races
- Graphics improvements (water, etc)
- Guild leveling system?


Cataclysm will ship shortly afterwards and buying it will unlock:


- Level 85 level cap
- 525 Profession skill caps
- Goblins and Worgen, and their starter zones
- New Level 80+ zones, dungeons, heroics, raids
- New battlegrounds
- Rated battlegrounds
- Flying mounts in Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor
- Archaeology
- 310% speed flying mounts?


Please correct anything I got wrong or missed


That looks almost right. Guild Advancement/Achievem​ents should go under Cataclysm launch though and mount speed changes should be moved up to 4.0.1.

Edit: Just in case I misunderstood you -- or in case I'm misunderstood -- when I say mount speed changes should be in 4.0.1, I'm referring to the ability to use any flying mount at 310% speed if you have already earned a mount of that speed.



Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27026373706&postId=270238019997&sid=1#26)


It doesn't appear spelled out either way supporting or denying the new races will be available. Has anyone read something official elsewhere?

Worgen and goblins require the activation of a Cataclysm key and will not be available in patch 4.0.3 until Cataclysm launches.




Linky (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27026397444&postId=270238066088&sid=1#33)


4.0.3 is something everyone gets, even vanilla players. Cataclysm is the expansion. Are you saying everyone can create Orc Mages?

That is correct.

d0z3rr
10-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Does anyone know what they mean by "rage is normalised"?

valkry
10-09-2010, 09:19 AM
Does anyone know what they mean by "rage is normalised"?
I used google and found (re-found, because I already knew what it was) out within 2 minutes.

It means they are making rage gains from melee swings and taking damage more consistant. Less to do with how much dmg you take/do and more with weap speed and hits.