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Shodokan
09-12-2010, 12:23 AM
Now we can test out all our theory-crafting shit we've done over the past few months. YAY!

Mosg2
09-12-2010, 12:29 AM
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

MMO link to the patch notes.

Guess it's time to give Rets a try with the changes. And Druids. And DK's. Hmm.

I just don't have enough time to get it all done :) Maybe we should get a post or two going in the PvP forums to see who's trying out what with some updates/videos etc?

Noids
09-12-2010, 12:38 AM
I might try 4 rets with an MM hunter lead. I'm sure someone (prolly Shodo) will be casing the DK ret combo. Also interested in how the new warrior tools play out and the significance of the various MS effects with the new stam/healing levels.

Mosg2
09-12-2010, 12:42 AM
I've spent 15 minutes dinking around with it and I can't get to the PTR site--I've never done the PTR before. Is it just not up yet?

And I'm most interested in seeing what 4 Rets plus another class looks like. Then 4 DK's and then 4 Boomkin with SOLAR BEAM.

Shodokan
09-12-2010, 01:19 AM
I might try 4 rets with an MM hunter lead. I'm sure someone (prolly Shodo) will be casing the DK ret combo. Also interested in how the new warrior tools play out and the significance of the various MS effects with the new stam/healing levels.

Naw. Not going on the PTR. I have been on beta.

MiRai
09-12-2010, 01:19 AM
Fourth!

For US/Oceanic players: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/
For European players: http://www.wow-europe.com/ptr/

EDIT:
Son of a bitch... FIFTH!

zenga
09-12-2010, 01:22 AM
Looks like we'll finally find out what the system requirements are going to be to box cata.

Multibocks
09-12-2010, 01:24 AM
Good luck!

Noids
09-12-2010, 05:41 AM
QQ at 4 day wait time for copies and no option for premade chars :/

Didn't specifically mean testing on PTRs Shodo, just in general on a 4.0 something client.

Mosg2
09-12-2010, 08:04 AM
FML @ no premades. How am I supposed to try out 4x DK's? Does anyone have them at 80?

"There are already the maximum number of wow accounts attached to this battle.net account. You will be unable to participate in the PTR."

Anyone see that? I guess I'm not going to be doing anything on the PTR.

Slats
09-12-2010, 08:48 AM
I also do get that problem and I have 8 WoW Accounts on my battle.net account.

:(

Shodokan
09-12-2010, 06:39 PM
The amount of damage ret does at 85 vs 80 is fucking retardedly different. Not enjoying the 3-5k dps on dummys while my shaman in relentless pulls 10k sustained (at 80). 277 hunter friend (full heroic gear) is pulling 19k on dummy... the F.

Void
09-12-2010, 06:59 PM
how do you know if you have been chosen for beta testing i check my b.net account a few times but where would it say on there?

Shodokan
09-12-2010, 07:09 PM
how do you know if you have been chosen for beta testing i check my b.net account a few times but where would it say on there?

It will be an added game on your "games" menu, if you have 8 accounts already you cannot get beta.

Holmeser
09-12-2010, 07:20 PM
if you have 8 accounts already you cannot get beta.

oh FFS i've been sitting at home cursing at blizz for the fact i haven't got beta and now i find this out :@

Void
09-12-2010, 08:02 PM
naw i got 6+1 ptr copy

Multibocks
09-12-2010, 08:38 PM
It will be an added game on your "games" menu, if you have 8 accounts already you cannot get beta.

I'm in closed beta with 8 accts on my battlenet

Shodokan
09-12-2010, 09:01 PM
I'm in closed beta with 8 accts on my battlenet

I had my alpha replaced by a trial I added, and was never upgraded to beta on that account... i had another bnet get beta though.... not sure how the first account never got upgraded and that was a question I asked more than once and the reason they always gave was "there were already too many active world of warcraft accounts on your battle.net"

F9thRet
09-12-2010, 09:18 PM
Good lord, 15 gigs. This will take me forever.

Stephen

MiRai
09-12-2010, 09:19 PM
Good lord, 15 gigs. This will take me forever.

Stephen
You can press play long before that and get into the game, hence the streaming client.

F9thRet
09-12-2010, 09:30 PM
Oh I understand that Bro.

Right now I have two ISP's I can use though.

Hughesnet which will go off on the 18th about, and it is limited to 525 meg a day, except through the late late night, which I can usually manage to grab 3 gig of info.

the other is my new Service, Wildblue, which has a 17 gig a month limit.

Either one of them will kill my service for the month.

sadly, that is also all that is available out here.

oh well, I'll get started with hughesnet tonight. Might have a cop buddy of mine just Download it, and burn it. Copy the folder over to my PC and go that way. (any patches would be a lot easier, then the whole thing.)

Stephen hates satellite sometimes.

Multibocks
09-12-2010, 09:33 PM
thank god I have no limits on my bandwidth =X

F9thRet
09-12-2010, 09:55 PM
Hehe, I bet.

I take solace on days like this, Knowing I can go months on my ranch, and not see a single other person besides my wife though. :D It's a trade off guys for living in the middle of nowhere. :D

Stephen

Shodokan
09-12-2010, 10:48 PM
Good lord, 15 gigs. This will take me forever.

Stephen


And upwards to 12 hours to get a single toon on there.

Souca
09-12-2010, 10:59 PM
It will be an added game on your "games" menu, if you have 8 accounts already you cannot get beta.

This and "There are already the maximum number of wow accounts attached to this battle.net account. You will be unable to participate in the PTR." have to be the biggest "fuck you"s with Beta this time. I was thinking about giving the PTR a poke, but dealing with their phone support roulette reminds me of all the reasons I stopped playing.

Sorry to vent, but as someone who has been playing off and on for many years, missing Beta because I drank the b.net Koolaid and hit the 8 account limit still pisses me off.

- Souca -

Shodokan
09-12-2010, 11:23 PM
This and "There are already the maximum number of wow accounts attached to this battle.net account. You will be unable to participate in the PTR." have to be the biggest "fuck you"s with Beta this time. I was thinking about giving the PTR a poke, but dealing with their phone support roulette reminds me of all the reasons I stopped playing.

Sorry to vent, but as someone who has been playing off and on for many years, missing Beta because I drank the b.net Koolaid and hit the 8 account limit still pisses me off.

- Souca -


I had 3 of my accounts moved, and all of my trials REMOVED from accounts...gona have to give em a call.

F9thRet
09-13-2010, 01:39 AM
That's what I am going to do Shodakan. actually, I'll be moving all my Trial accounts over to a secondary account, I have.

And about the twelve hours, Man When I checked last night, the Que was three days. Now I can't imagine they are doing it on Sunday, either, So I figure, when I get my new Keyboard in on Thursday, I might be able to play.

I also Did in fact talk that buddy of mine, and he is just gonna mail me the copy. I can't see any reason why it won't work.

Anyways, enough about me. you mentioned Pally dmg. being kind of low at 80, How was Shamans doing? I read a little bit, and it looks like Locks are knocking the target dummies out of the park right now. (affliction IIRC) 12k DPS.

Stephen

Shodokan
09-13-2010, 01:52 AM
That's what I am going to do Shodakan. actually, I'll be moving all my Trial accounts over to a secondary account, I have.

And about the twelve hours, Man When I checked last night, the Que was three days. Now I can't imagine they are doing it on Sunday, either, So I figure, when I get my new Keyboard in on Thursday, I might be able to play.

I also Did in fact talk that buddy of mine, and he is just gonna mail me the copy. I can't see any reason why it won't work.

Anyways, enough about me. you mentioned Pally dmg. being kind of low at 80, How was Shamans doing? I read a little bit, and it looks like Locks are knocking the target dummies out of the park right now. (affliction IIRC) 12k DPS.

Stephen

Shaman are absurd on the ptr and beta... i do like 12k dps on my relentless shaman >_>

Toned
09-13-2010, 03:09 AM
Reforge all your gear into mastery and it's lolzie as hell I <3 double lava burst procs then the lava surge go again ! And WTF pew pew lightning shield and searing totem so crazy.

ZooljinX
09-13-2010, 05:54 AM
any news on /click?

MiRai
09-13-2010, 06:22 AM
any news on /click?
According to Tom Thompson, Lead UI Programmer:

The ability to “pause” macros was removed because it created a level of automation that was not intended.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26725772840#14

Is it real?

alcattle
09-13-2010, 06:22 AM
So where does this fall on the release time line? PTR for a month then the pre-cata event? so maybe 2 months? :eek:

MiRai
09-13-2010, 06:26 AM
So where does this fall on the release time line? PTR for a month then the pre-cata event? so maybe 2 months? :eek:
MMO-Champion is claiming November 2nd [going by the numbers], another site is claiming mid November [from what they call a "reliable source."].

Souca
09-13-2010, 09:32 PM
MMO-Champion is claiming November 2nd [going by the numbers], another site is claiming mid November [from what they call a "reliable source."].

For the 4.0 push or the Cata launch?

Pushing 4.0 on the 2nd would give them a week after BlizzCon which might make sense, not sure how tired they were when they pushed 3.0 the Tuesday after BlizzCon for Wrath. They might just want a week to prepare. There will be at least a week or two between 4.0 and Cata release to shake out any issues with 4.0 live. Didn't Wrath launch on 3.0.3a?

- Souca -

Drizhal
09-13-2010, 10:24 PM
According to Tom Thompson, Lead UI Programmer:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26725772840#14

Is it real?


A level 1 random from Lost Isles sounds like trolled even if T squared is the Lead UI guy...
wouldn't he be blue? Or at the very least green?

MiRai
09-13-2010, 10:38 PM
A level 1 random from Lost Isles sounds like trolled even if T squared is the Lead UI guy...
wouldn't he be blue? Or at the very least green?
Not necessarily, not every single employee at Blizzard gets their own avatar. It could be a troll yes but, as stated in that thread those forums are pretty heavily moderated and if someone bothered to report his post as an impersonation then it should've gotten removed. If you're in beta feel free to bump that thread looking for a real blue response and then report the level 1 character's post and see what they do about it.

Kicksome
09-13-2010, 11:23 PM
I seriously doubt Blizzard employees post under a level 1 alt that looks the same as everyone else.
He doesn't say he is with blizzard either.

Daeri
09-14-2010, 02:51 AM
Check his posts history : if he is a troll, then he sure is a very insightful and fully informed one.

Svpernova09
09-14-2010, 09:45 AM
Just to be clear: You CAN get into the Beta with 8 wow accounts on your battle.net You MAY not be able to get into the PTR, this is a bug with the PTR.


I along with a few other people got beta invites while we had 8 WoW accounts.

If you have 8 accounts and are unable to get a beta invite, how can you be sure you really did get a beta invite?

Fat Tire
09-14-2010, 10:36 AM
Just to be clear: You CAN get into the Beta with 8 wow accounts on your battle.net You MAY not be able to get into the PTR, this is a bug with the PTR.


I along with a few other people got beta invites while we had 8 WoW accounts.

If you have 8 accounts and are unable to get a beta invite, how can you be sure you really did get a beta invite?


The cat has spoken.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Erch/AJsig.jpg

Yesh
09-14-2010, 11:40 AM
MMO-Champion is claiming November 2nd [going by the numbers], another site is claiming mid November [from what they call a "reliable source."].
For the 4.0 push or the Cata launch?

Pushing 4.0 on the 2nd would give them a week after BlizzCon which might make sense, not sure how tired they were when they pushed 3.0 the Tuesday after BlizzCon for Wrath. They might just want a week to prepare. There will be at least a week or two between 4.0 and Cata release to shake out any issues with 4.0 live. Didn't Wrath launch on 3.0.3a?

- Souca -
He's referring to Cataclysm launch. These are the two related articles:

Nov 2nd (http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1967-Cataclysm-Release-Date-Gathering-XP-Blue-Posts)

Nov 18th (http://www.mmowned.com/forums/content/178-cataclysm-release-date.html)

wonz
09-15-2010, 04:10 PM
A level 1 random from Lost Isles sounds like trolled even if T squared is the Lead UI guy...
wouldn't he be blue? Or at the very least green?

It's possible they didnt want to blue tag the thread, because blueposts appear on blue trackers, and those appear on websites as like mmo-champion.

I guess they dont want to make that more public as it already got.

Did anyone test /castsequence on the ptr yet? Did not get to the ptr myself until now. Only cata beta.

ebony
09-15-2010, 09:32 PM
It's possible they didnt want to blue tag the thread, because blueposts appear on blue trackers, and those appear on websites as like mmo-champion.

I guess they dont want to make that more public as it already got.

Did anyone test /castsequence on the ptr yet? Did not get to the ptr myself until now. Only cata beta.


/castsequence works ,,,,,,,,,, does not work :( its not going to be easy for a mixxed group thats for sure

ebony
09-16-2010, 01:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5fKYQlzAM

here a simple video of /click dead :@

wonz
09-16-2010, 12:21 PM
/castsequence works ,,,,,,,,,, does not work :( its not going to be easy for a mixxed group thats for sure

Well, so i believe this is going life as well.

Say goodbye to commasequence macros.

I did post an alternative, but it seems some are worried that could be a bannable offense.. even if keytrokes just get ignored. No idea, if blizzard would ban those who use it for that.

In fact that would mean that even round robin simulations could be a bannable offense, or any kind of key redirection. Because i also could just reroute the key to a empty actionbar button..

Bigfish
09-16-2010, 12:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5fKYQlzAM

here a simple video of /click dead :@

Thanks for the video.

ebony
09-16-2010, 12:54 PM
Well, so i believe this is going life as well.

Say goodbye to commasequence macros.

I did post an alternative, but it seems some are worried that could be a bannable offense.. even if keytrokes just get ignored. No idea, if blizzard would ban those who use it for that.

In fact that would mean that even round robin simulations could be a bannable offense, or any kind of key redirection. Because i also could just reroute the key to a empty actionbar button..

this could be looking bad what and what we can not do. noone got banned for ,,,,,,,, so if they was that pickey they would if its useing a blizzard macrio then we "sould be safe" i have manged to make a few simple marcios. dps is poor though.

Round robin simulation's who knows.

Bigfish
09-16-2010, 01:00 PM
Personally, I'm probably going to use the method I did before of mapping out DPS rotations and just writing really long macros that take around 60-120 seconds of DPS to get through.

I suppose from a design standpoint, all the procs and such that players have to keep track of is meant to make the game a bit more whack-a-mole with multiple moles instead of whack-a-mole with just one. Personally, the talent trees seem to involve a little too much pigeon holing to me. Seems kind of a double whammy to have our macros broken and then taking away almost all the customization of the talent trees.

F9thRet
09-16-2010, 01:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5fKYQlzAM

here a simple video of /click dead :@

Thanks for the video, But outside of your enlarged Comments, I can't see the Macro window at all. (Yes I have old man eyes). any chance w could have you post the macros so At least I (who always has a problem switching macros over) can get an idea of your template?

Thanks again.