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Shodokan
09-06-2010, 05:48 AM
Posted this elsewhere first, figured i would post here for those that enjoyed my guides. I'm not going to deal with trolls or being flamed or whatever, just posting it and logging out.

Introduction
I'm a Multi-Boxer whom specializes in making gold. I am an ******* and in this "guide" you may be demeaned in some manner but you can deal with it. Before you say "how do we know these work" I've been playing again since february and normally do not play over 2-3 hours per day... I've made over 1.5 million gold in that time period and am currently gold capped on three toons.

KEEP IN MIND THAT ECONOMIC AWARENESS IS KING NO MATTER HOW YOU AIM TO MAKE MONEY. ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT I WILL BE REFERENCING ALL PROFESSIONS ASSUMING YOU HAVE THEM ALL.

This guide is not going to teach you how to multi-box, what team to run or anything like that... it is SIMPLY to show you the power multi-boxing brings to make money(if that is your ultimate goal like it is mine. If you want programs to multi-box you can use any of the following

ISBoxer
Keyclone
Hotkeynet
Octopus
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I recommend them in that order.


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Mob Farming Strategies
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Instances
Old world instances are great cash... many people single box places such as stratholme, ramparts and sethekk halls. The difference is that multi-boxers can do instances that may take a single boxer longer to clear in much less time (sethekk halls for example) to ultimately yield higher profits.

Sethekk halls
You can cap out your instances per hour with ease including looting (unlike single boxing). Each run gives you tons of vendor trash, tons of cloth, decent amount of silver, some blues/green to disenchant/vendor depending on the material prices on your server. As well as about 3 stacks of adamantite ore.

This yields between 500 and 1000 gold per hour depending on server and drops.

Stratholme
Unlike single boxing you can solo this place and kill at a much much faster rate than single boxing. I myself run with 5 paladins and you can kill a pack of mobs in two buttons.... this being said you can instance cap doing both dead and undead (entire left side from service entrance)

The amount of gold you get from this varies depending on drops. Crusader enchant sells very well (the righteous orbs that drop in living area used for this) as well as the abundant amount of runecloth, greens to DE/vendor and vendor trash.

If runecloth is above 7 gold per stack this is a GREAT place to farm especially for the speed at which you can run it.

HOBBS has great videos on the amount of money he made with this place as a single boxer.

Tempest Keep: Botanica
Exactly like sethekk halls but the mobs are a bit higher level and there are many more of them to kill, unlike sethekk halls there are no mining nodes in which you can abuse. More silver to be had and not all mobs are able to drop cloth but still a very good place. There are many chinese botters whom use this place to bot in order to get the "got my mind on my money" achievements.

Violet Hold
This was my mainstay for a while... the amount of skins you get and cloth makes this place a gold mine. If you always have wintergrasp you can make tons of shards as well. Tons of greens and vendor trash that can be great. Some blues that sell for higher than the price of dream shards as well. This place can be cleared in about 10-12 minuets meaning you can meet the instance cap as well just like in some of the old world instances. This place drops scales, leather, coin, greens, blues, arctic fur at an increased drop chance and a few bosses that are skinnable as well for extra cash.

Each mob here is worth about 2 gold in materials or more. If you have a tailor in the group the amount of cloth is increased by quite a bit as well.

Random heroics
Make sure NOT to have any of the "new" places opened... you don't want to go in them as they are a waste of time. The 10 frost badges aren't worth losing the convenience.

You can do between 3 and 5 instances per hour... with professions this can end up being close to 2000 gold an hour or more.

The complete guide to the random heroics method is here:
Multi-Boxer's Guide To Making Gold Through Heroics - Go For Broke (http://www.hackshardgaming.net/forums/showthread.php?p=108#post108)

The garfrost method
Theres a way to get to garfrost without aggroing anything... I'm not going to describe it in full but basically jump off like normal, don't go up the stupid ramp, run right across the the edge of the quarry... then make sure not to be seen by anything. You can pull the stupid drake + rider if you need to (the first one) the second one can ALWAYS be skipped. This takes 2 mins to do each run, using the looking for dungeon system you can leave instance, reset, and re-que and it will by-pass the "instance limit" per hour.

Gives upwards to 30 badges per hour, some random gold, and up to 30 abyss crystals, also gives 4 stonekeeper shards per kill.

Done on normal mode... usually brought me in 2-3k per hour depending on prices of gems (what i used my badges on), or you can use the same strategies covered in the heroics guide for professions in order to use your badges to maxamize profit (i was just super lazy and this is MINDLESS)

You can carry someone and leave one of your toons out if you want to gear a friend... takes about 7 hours total to get them fully geared in t9 + off pieces from badges.


Raids
Old school raids or even ICC can bring in quite a bit of extra cash for a multi-boxer. My current mainstay is to sit in ICC 25 man and farm some of the trash with my 4 shaman/paladin team and get me some BOES. But every raid has it's purpose.

Zul'gurub
The trash is reset-able and like farming for the rep items and such as a single person (they sell for random amounts on the ah, i'm normally able to sell them for around 15g per). No real secret here it's the same as the single boxing method... go in kill the trolls and get the crap you turn in for rep.

Karazhan
Another trash reset zone

Areas to kill: room up the first set of stairs stairs, tables in front of moroes, 2nd level starting from top of stairs to front of opera stage.

Tons of coin, cloth, and tons of vendor trash....greens etc... TONS of mobs that are really easy to kill as well as a boxing group. If you have not seen the vids of the rogue soloing most of this trash than go watch it...it's on warcraftmovies and youtube.

Tempest Keep: The Eye
You know about the bots in black temple right? They only go there because they don't have the killing power for this place due to the trash not being quite as easy but still... super easy.

EVERY mob in here will give you vendor trash, 1 gold or more, a good amount of cloth and high percent drops for greens.

Trash is reset-able.

BOTH TEMPEST KEEP AND KARA ARE GREAT PLACES FOR PURE COIN

Molten core
All the items for things like thunder fury, also hand of ragnaros... decent coin as well. Can yield about 500 gold per reset or whatever. If you don't know why this place is good... look up some of the "resell in cataclysm" guides.

Blackwing lair
This is soloable... this is mainly for elementium ore. Can yield A LOT of gold if you are lucky. Good thing to do once a week.

A trick i forgot to post...unlimited elementium ore.
Step 1: Clear up to the room that has the 10 ish blackwing technicians (not the boss guy with like 1% chance but the other goblin dudes)
Step 2: CC one of the goblins so it will not get pulled... grab the rest and kill them FAST
Step 3: Loot and then run out of the instance,if the CC'd mob follows you no biggie just DO NOT KILL IT
Step 4: Leave the instance
Step 5: Wait 10 mins and go back inside (trash soft reset)
Step 6: Go back to the room with the mobs we are killing and then repeat the process.

This means you get 50+ chances per hour at the ore, instead of like... 10. (these mobs have 10% chance per to drop the ore)
I got lucky and got 8 ore in one hour like this (they sell for 1200g per ore on my server)

Mag
Great gold from the boss himself once a week.. an extra 500 gold or so for 25 mins of work.

This takes some getting use to though.

The battle for mount hyjal
Another trash place... more decent drops... not as good as TK though in my opinion. It's a nice change of pace. Do the trash up to for the first boss, bring them back to the npcs for a bit more DPS if you need to.

Icecrown Citadel 25 man
This is my bread and butter. "The Damned" are soloable easily on any multi-box team in t9 gear. This means that you can kill about 5-10 mobs before having to reset in the same amount of time as someone who is killing the three and bringing them back to the NPC's. So every 5 mins you can kill about 10 mobs and then reset. You can get upwards to 200 mobs per hour if you are good, and since many BOES have an upwards to 5% chance to drop you can assume you will get one or two... some times more. My best set was 3x wodins, 2x harbringer's band, 1x ring of rotting sinew in a single hour (at 5k, 6k and 3k worth per that netted me 30k total).

I HIGHLY suggest running as a paladin + 4 shaman for this, or bring a healer friend and you can clear a bit more of the trash if you really wanna try :) (i run with a healer shaman + 4 ret paladins and a dk and can do like 12-13 mobs before resetting in about 5 mins)

Shodokan
09-06-2010, 05:48 AM
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Single mobs
All the normal places apply. But these are the spots I like best.
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Scholozar Basin: Rapids near freya
Bonescythe scavengers are here... they respawn faster with more people there. If you have a group such as 5 druids or 5 paladins you can set them up in a line and basically keep them all killing all the mobs rapidly. Every few mins take a break and loot the mobs.

Tons of silver, frostweave etc.

Borean tundra: The rhinos
Best to do on kitty druids or mages or something that can AOE without needing to worry about cooldowns.

Like the other videos say... 1000+ gold per hour... just you kill more than in the videos/guides they show. Sometimes you can make 2k+ per hour

Skinning is REQUIRED for this. Rhino meat + chilled meat + leather + arctic fur

Icecrown : Fallen heroes... glacier area
The basic premise of this is the same as the hobbs way of pulling for this area... just because it is a quest area like the place in scholozar you get the mobs to spawn faster.

Tons of cloth, greens, coin and vendor trash. I highly suggest having a traveler's tundra mount if you plan on using this place as there are A LOT of drops considering you are normally killing 6-10 mobs at a time. The best class to do this place with is bear druids, ret paladins and priests (holy nova FTW)

Can be easily 1000 gold an hour or so depending on AH prices of cloth and enchanting mats etc.

Storm Peaks: Fjorn's Anvil
Fire elementals... fast respawn timer. Sit your chars in different places and press your AOE buttons.

Relics of ulduar, eternal fire, vendor trash

Decent money depending on the price of eternal fires at the time as well as relics.

Any other place for skinning
As a 5 paladin team... at 80 your taunt will kill the mob... so you can get up to 400 kills an hour if you kill + loot every 10 ish seconds. Thats a minimum of 400g an hour not including vendor trash, arctic furs... or any of the other crap... very mindless.

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Professions
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Crafting professions
Have as many toons as you can with daily cooldowns... i use to run alchemy/tailoring...will be again in cata since the cooldowns are back. Was also profitable as mining etc.

Having every crafting profession is awesome as well cause you can maximize your wealth from whatever you do. Leatherworking/Blacksmithing/Tailoring can make you big money if you use them correctly.


The multi-toon scholozar trick (mining/herb/eng/3x alch/inscrip
Gathering professions are not the greatest for boxers... BUT there is one exception. Scholozar basin is a GOLD MINE for boxers... most people don't take the time to do it due to the tediousness but if you can figure out the correct pathing you can make TONS of money.

Toon 1: Must be mining/herbalism. Make sure to have the macro to switch between them to watch your minimap.

Toon 2: Engineer + X-Mute alchemist

Toon 3: Elixir master + Inscription

Toon 4: Potions master + Blacksmithing (icecrown patterns)

You could alternatively use a radar of some sort to alert you when there is a node on two separate toons one as a miner and one as a herbalist.

Fly your route, get the adder's tongue, Tiger Lilly, saronite, titanium, gold clover and use the zapthrottle gas extractor on the gas clouds for eternal fires.

Then make saronite to bars, use x-mute alchemist to make them into titanium... use titanium to make titansteel. Take the adder's tongue and make potions of speed on the potions master. Take the gold clover and frost lotus... buy some lichbloom and make endless rage flasks as well as take any extra lichbloom and use it with the eternal lifes you get from herbalism to make flask of stone blood on the elixir master. Then take the tigers lily, mill them and then make them into the highest selling/best selling glyphs. Buy or trade in frosts for primordials and make ANY ICC pattern with your titansteel (you get upwards to 10 per hour)

Easily over 2000 an hour, if you do it for two hours and save titansteel for making 2x legplates... thats 10k or so and if you are buying the primordials its over 6k profit from that ALONE.

Mining/Engineer in nagrand
Simply put... adamantite is expensive (50g per stack on my server) and so is khorium (60g PER ORE)... that combined with the primal air from the zapthrottle (60g+)

This nets over 1000g an hour easily.

The "isle of queldanas" trick (mining)
This is for anyone... and it is well known but VERY good. There are 6 nodes on the island on a 7 min respawn timer. They are mostly rich or khorium. Simply mine them and sell the stuff.

Again over 800g an hour.

Leatherworking... taking advantage of the ah
Already known but it is worth posting.

If the price of 60 borean leather is less than the cost of 1 arctic fur... buy the leather and make the fur or sell the heavy borean if that is worth more as 10 heavy borean.

All crafting professions
If the materials of making an epic item that is 245+ is 1/2 to 3/4 of what you would get if you created it and sold it then get the mats and make them and re-sell. I normally aim for a 500g+ profit margin. Or a 50+ gold profit margin for other items such as leg enchants etc.

Example: Legplates of painful death material costs... 20x eternal shadow (100g), 8x primordial saronite (2400g), 12x titansteel bars (1200ish gold).... if it sells for more than 4200 gold then it is worth making. ETC.

Saronite sword bracers cost around 900 to make and can fetch upwards to 1500 or 2k depending on your server. 400g here or there is worth it, just don't put too many of lower level items up.

If you do that 3-4 times a week that can end up putting a few extra thousand in your pocket, especially if you monopolize the market for multiple profession type of items.

FISHING/Cooking: AKA the fish feast method
Set up five toons to fish in wintergrasp. Use a "zoom in" addon that lets you zoom into anywhere on your screen and zoom into where the normal area of their bauble is. Sit back and go on a clicking frenzy as you watch TV, listen to music or do whatever. Best to be watching youtube on a 2nd monitor in my opinion. You can get addons that make noise when your bauble is interacted with by a fish... so just make a distinct sound for each character window and press your cast button, click the windows in the order that the sounds happen and tada....

EASY money. Costs like 2 gold to make, each fish is worth about 1 gold in this situation. So sell the fish you can't use and make huge profits. This is upwards to 5 fish every 10-15 seconds or less. So you can look at upwards to 2000 fish per hour. Which will net you over 1000 gold easily even if you sell in bulk!


It is 5am... I will update this with more information when i feel not so tired. But I think i will leave this as is, if it is appreciated I will add a bit more to it

This is meant for most people using 3-5 toons or being able to play 2+ at once and have alts for professions.

Some of this is probably a repost... but that's fine as I'm too lazy to look.

JackBurton
09-06-2010, 05:56 AM
sticky plz kthx

ZooljinX
09-06-2010, 06:04 AM
Neat little guide.. sticky!

zenga
09-06-2010, 08:22 AM
Picked up again an idea or 3 I didn't knew about / never realized. Ty for sharing.

angeldeelite
09-06-2010, 08:28 AM
Nice!

Daeri
09-06-2010, 09:02 AM
Although a few of the strategies listed there look like common sense to me I've learnt a few things I never really thought of before. It's nice to have all these ideas grouped together in a single guide. Thanks a lot for sharing!

not5150
09-06-2010, 09:17 AM
Very good guide.. great tips!

Korruptor
09-06-2010, 10:16 AM
Thanks for the info Shodokan!
Sticky please!

Zub
09-06-2010, 10:21 AM
yep it's a nice read. (in all honesty, i don't think people had any critic about the content of the guide, just about the way they were presented :-)

In any case, i've run a few Normal Garfrosts and it takes me 7 minutes. I can't seem to avoid the 2 dragon rider pats. (i could the second one i think, haven't tried all hard, seemed easier to kill it)

thanks for sharing

Seldum
09-06-2010, 02:21 PM
Nice guide. Thanks for sharing. Even if something is known, theres quite a few cherries in between.

thefunk
09-06-2010, 03:00 PM
great guide mate, I actually prefer this to the random heroics thread (personal play style). I'm one of those who's not so keen on your posting style, however a) why do you care b)ignore it c) make a joke once in a while Don't just quit.

Shodokan
09-06-2010, 03:34 PM
Theres between 10 and 20 other things I haven't added yet. I'll add those a bit later(within the next week hopefully) since this seems to be something people actually wanted.

Iceorbz
09-06-2010, 06:20 PM
Thank you shodokan!

lightstriker
09-06-2010, 06:32 PM
thanks for the great guide.

lans83
09-06-2010, 08:27 PM
(holds up lighter)

Nice work Sho, keep the tips comin.

Kicksome
09-06-2010, 11:05 PM
Thanks man, very good stuff.

Jafula
09-06-2010, 11:09 PM
Sweet thanks! (I've printed it out its so useful.)

Umbaalo
09-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Thanks for the time invested in making this! Learned a few new ideas I've never thought of trying.

ghonosyph
09-07-2010, 12:42 AM
<3 shodokan! srsly, even tho some of this is easy to figure out... i'm always left going "oh yea!" every time i read it. :) i really have made quite a few thousand golds with your tips and tricks :) its a godsend thanks!

sparvath
09-07-2010, 07:05 AM
amazing guide. didnt think I could 5 man ICC but I just tested it this morning before work. Didnt even bother with buffs. Just went in and nuked the first few packs. With 3 mobs tank can take quite a bit of damage but once the first is down the healing is a breeze..

thanks Shodokan for the guide. I look forward to part 2

Harrypott
09-07-2010, 09:35 AM
Thanks heaps! can't wait to try some of this stuff out

F9thRet
09-07-2010, 10:39 AM
Thanks Shodokan! Sent a link to my guilds so they can read it also.

Stephen

arsonwave
09-07-2010, 01:48 PM
Quick question,
You mention that in 7 hours you can completely gear in T9 gear. This is listed under the Garfrost area and I was wondering if this was meant to be tied to the quick Garfrost runs or just pounding heroics over and over for 7 hours you'll get enough. If it was meant to be with Garfrost I"m confused as to how you are getting so many badges.

Thanks,
Pyrul

PS...Thanks again for all the good tips Shodokan, you rock!

Shodokan
09-07-2010, 03:00 PM
Quick question,
You mention that in 7 hours you can completely gear in T9 gear. This is listed under the Garfrost area and I was wondering if this was meant to be tied to the quick Garfrost runs or just pounding heroics over and over for 7 hours you'll get enough. If it was meant to be with Garfrost I"m confused as to how you are getting so many badges.

Thanks,
Pyrul

PS...Thanks again for all the good tips Shodokan, you rock!

It can be done either way, but i have garfrost down to <2 mins per kill on my ret/dk team. I get upwards to 35 badges per hour. Which is 245 badges in 7 hours. 210 is the amount you need for 5 piece t9, and most people only go for 4 piece which gives you enough badges to get ring/conquest neck etc. If the dungeons are 4 per hour you are only getting a max of 25 so it is still upwards to 10 badges more per hour if you don't lollygag.

arsonwave
09-07-2010, 03:18 PM
Does Garfrost allow some crazy thing where you don't run into the 4-5 times per hour dungeon run lockout?

F9thRet
09-07-2010, 03:29 PM
@ Arson, I believe he is just using the Dungeon finder, which allows him to reset it any amount of times.

Stephen

crowdx
09-07-2010, 05:45 PM
So I know someone posted the path to get to Garfrost without aggroing mobs a while back, I cannot find that post. Can anyone link it? The least mobs I get aggro on is the dragon rider and one of the large skeletons? How do I avoid the skeletons?

nauren01
09-08-2010, 11:00 AM
great post - thank you !!

details on the garfrost method would also interest me :)

one question - I just sold a battered hilt for 5k (market at 7k didn't move...). with a 1-2% drop rate from resetable trash mobs in ICC 5 man heroics, would this not be a great source of income? is the market demand not high enough to sell regularly?

thefunk
09-08-2010, 12:18 PM
great post - thank you !!

details on the garfrost method would also interest me :)

one question - I just sold a battered hilt for 5k (market at 7k didn't move...). with a 1-2% drop rate from resetable trash mobs in ICC 5 man heroics, would this not be a great source of income? is the market demand not high enough to sell regularly?

It would be a great source of income, however in 20 or so runs I've not seen it drop. Might have been unlucky.

zenga
09-08-2010, 01:30 PM
Icecrown Citadel 25 man
This is my bread and butter. "The Damned" are soloable easily on any multi-box team in t9 gear. This means that you can kill about 5-10 mobs before having to reset in the same amount of time as someone who is killing the three and bringing them back to the NPC's. So every 5 mins you can kill about 10 mobs and then reset. You can get upwards to 200 mobs per hour if you are good, and since many BOES have an upwards to 5% chance to drop you can assume you will get one or two... some times more. My best set was 3x wodins, 2x harbringer's band, 1x ring of rotting sinew in a single hour (at 5k, 6k and 3k worth per that netted me 30k total).

I HIGHLY suggest running as a paladin + 4 shaman for this, or bring a healer friend and you can clear a bit more of the trash if you really wanna try :) (i run with a healer shaman + 4 ret paladins and a dk and can do like 12-13 mobs before resetting in about 5 mins)

Not too sure how you make your pulls, how you are geared or what kind of dps you do. But here is what I just tried.

As you can see from this screensho (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2016/wowscrnshot090810185556.jpg)t I'm sitting at 40k+ raid dps. My 3 shammies pull between 10-14k single target in icc, and with multiple mobs my tank does 6-7k as well. Riptide is enough to keep me up with an occasional healing wave. Now a damned mob has 1.6m hp, with 40k raid dps (which is pretty decent i'd say as a 5boxer) that takes me 40 seconds to kill 1 mob, obviously AOE lowers that, as does bloodlust. That is with using chain lighting whenever available.

So i pulled the first 2 guards and the 3 patrolling at once. Ran back down the stairs to avoid some of the non rep mobs would spawn. When i was done my dps where at 35% mana, so need to drink. Then pulled the left caster + 4 damned mobs with lso (to avoid traps). Same story.

So with running in, running out, killing 10 mobs, the risk that you have to kill a mob that spawns, ... i really don't see how you can kill 9 mobs within 5 minutes with the shammies. Even adding a 4th dps shammy and running with another healer won't change the numbers such.

Maybe i'm missing something though.

titanfox
09-08-2010, 01:48 PM
WOW this was what i was needing as im leveling up a few groups.

one thing that i have been looking for and maybe someone can point in the right area


"something to alert you when there is a node on two separate toons one as a miner and one as a herbalist"

anything like this out there?

Shodokan
09-08-2010, 04:33 PM
Not too sure how you make your pulls, how you are geared or what kind of dps you do. But here is what I just tried.

As you can see from this screensho (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2016/wowscrnshot090810185556.jpg)t I'm sitting at 40k+ raid dps. My 3 shammies pull between 10-14k single target in icc, and with multiple mobs my tank does 6-7k as well. Riptide is enough to keep me up with an occasional healing wave. Now a damned mob has 1.6m hp, with 40k raid dps (which is pretty decent i'd say as a 5boxer) that takes me 40 seconds to kill 1 mob, obviously AOE lowers that, as does bloodlust. That is with using chain lighting whenever available.

So i pulled the first 2 guards and the 3 patrolling at once. Ran back down the stairs to avoid some of the non rep mobs would spawn. When i was done my dps where at 35% mana, so need to drink. Then pulled the left caster + 4 damned mobs with lso (to avoid traps). Same story.

So with running in, running out, killing 10 mobs, the risk that you have to kill a mob that spawns, ... i really don't see how you can kill 9 mobs within 5 minutes with the shammies. Even adding a 4th dps shammy and running with another healer won't change the numbers such.

Maybe i'm missing something though.

I use ret paladins with 2-4 piece tier 10 and a shammy healer friend along with my prot paladin tank just incase (extra life).

Yeti Detective Agency
09-09-2010, 02:30 AM
Thanks for the guide Shodokan.

Glad to see that you're back and decided to post here again.

Cheers!

Harrypott
09-09-2010, 03:11 AM
Shodokan: I was wondering what you consider the ultimate Heroic farming team to be? or a few options of ones that work really well. Do you think your farming team will change come Cat based on your knowledge of the changes we are expecting?

I gather from a few of your posts you use Ret Palandins a lot.

Obviously any team can do them, some toons are better suited though of course.

Shodokan
09-09-2010, 03:28 AM
Shodokan: I was wondering what you consider the ultimate Heroic farming team to be? or a few options of ones that work really well. Do you think your farming team will change come Cat based on your knowledge of the changes we are expecting?

I gather from a few of your posts you use Ret Palandins a lot.

Obviously any team can do them, some toons are better suited though of course.

Like WoTLK you are going to have to wait at least two raid contents to be able to "farm" heroics. We'll have to wait and see at what point you can just go in and mash button and shit dies, and how much you need to over gear it. for that to happen. I would not really say that rets would be too good at that come cata... but who knows.

Void
09-09-2010, 09:59 AM
Well i have to say thanks for the guide i ran ICC 25 with my t9 geared prot pally and 4 ele shams. healing is intense and i cannot clear the left side cause its a caster+4 melee but i CAN do the whole right side. made me 4k yesterday fom the tank ring. Will be doing alot of this thanks fo the infos

Zappy
09-09-2010, 10:26 AM
Molten core
All the items for things like thunder fury, also hand of ragnaros... decent coin as well. Can yield about 500 gold per reset or whatever. If you don't know why this place is good... look up some of the "resell in cataclysm" guides.

Blackwing lair
This is soloable... this is mainly for elementium ore. Can yield A LOT of gold if you are lucky. Good thing to do once a week.


This strategy is not a good way to make gold.

I tried it last night and got both bindings, so I couldn't finish MC in hopes to finish the quest chain this week. I did the attunement for BWL, then ran that and got 3 elementium ore, and had to buy the remainder in the a/h. I'm still short 2 ores, but in the end, I'm gonna be out another 7-8k. :D

I seriously cannot believe the luck of that. I geared 3 toons through MC and BWL back in the day, and we never saw any bindings drop. This was my 3rd run through MC on this team.

In all seriousness - great guide.

Fat Tire
09-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Very nice.

Thanks for taking the time to write this out and post it here. Much appreciated.

Shodokan
09-09-2010, 12:05 PM
This strategy is not a good way to make gold.

I tried it last night and got both bindings, so I couldn't finish MC in hopes to finish the quest chain this week. I did the attunement for BWL, then ran that and got 3 elementium ore, and had to buy the remainder in the a/h. I'm still short 2 ores, but in the end, I'm gonna be out another 7-8k. :D

I seriously cannot believe the luck of that. I geared 3 toons through MC and BWL back in the day, and we never saw any bindings drop. This was my 3rd run through MC on this team.

In all seriousness - great guide.

I updated my BWL guide with a trick I use a few hours a week... figured it would help some people out :) If you need a lot of elementium ore... then it will greatly help you

crowdx
09-09-2010, 12:06 PM
So does ANYONE have a pic/vid of how to get to Garfrost while avoiding 99% of the mobs? I have gotten to him a couple of times by hugging the side of the quarry but it seems to be very perilous to get by the mobs.
Any help welcome

Sajuuk
09-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Sajuuk posts his approval.

Shodokan
09-09-2010, 04:54 PM
So does ANYONE have a pic/vid of how to get to Garfrost while avoiding 99% of the mobs? I have gotten to him a couple of times by hugging the side of the quarry but it seems to be very perilous to get by the mobs.
Any help welcome

I might make a video later. I will do a paint picture if more than just you wants it (no offense meant).

crowdx
09-09-2010, 05:01 PM
I might make a video later. I will do a paint picture if more than just you wants it (no offense meant).
That would be VERY much appreciated :)

Iceorbz
09-09-2010, 05:19 PM
Pictures never hurt! Pretty sure I got it -- but maybe im doing it wrong and there is a better way.

Shodokan
09-09-2010, 05:26 PM
That would be VERY much appreciated :)

Honestly it's just waiting for pats to get to certain points and running along the direct edge of the quarry. Shouldn't need a map...

crowdx
09-09-2010, 05:30 PM
Well that is what I was thinking, but you have said it takes you about 2 minutes per run, so based on that time I am only just getting to Garfrost in 2 minutes let alone downing him lol

Shodokan
09-09-2010, 05:33 PM
Well that is what I was thinking, but you have said it takes you about 2 minutes per run, so based on that time I am only just getting to Garfrost in 2 minutes let alone downing him lol

Mount up before you go into the instance, start running RIGHT away... it's really not that hard. If you can't down the rider and the drake in a few seconds if you pull him then you don't really have the gear to kill garfrost that fast anywho.

Iceorbz
09-09-2010, 05:34 PM
Pretty sure that is a gear thing though.

crowdx
09-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Well my dps and healer are all geared, I am thinking of gearing my tank this way, yes it will not be as fast as a full geared team but if I can pull 25 - 30 badges an hour plus the gold from vendoring staffs etc it would be a more consistant way to farm badges fast. Based on times per instance posted here, badge faming randoms would be slower, i.e. (for me) 2 dungeons per hour is about as good as it gets with a low geared tank and so max per hour would be 12 badges per hour (I think :P ) , whereas if I can do 5 minute runs for Garfrost I get a guaranteed 12 badges per hour and the more I do this the faster it would get.

Shodokan
09-09-2010, 06:17 PM
Well my dps and healer are all geared, I am thinking of gearing my tank this way, yes it will not be as fast as a full geared team but if I can pull 25 - 30 badges an hour plus the gold from vendoring staffs etc it would be a more consistant way to farm badges fast. Based on times per instance posted here, badge faming randoms would be slower, i.e. (for me) 2 dungeons per hour is about as good as it gets with a low geared tank and so max per hour would be 12 badges per hour (I think :P ) , whereas if I can do 5 minute runs for Garfrost I get a guaranteed 12 badges per hour and the more I do this the faster it would get.

Work on being able to kill that first dude who puts the sword out FAST (blow cooldowns) and it speeds the run up.

Zub
09-09-2010, 07:23 PM
to give you an idea, my group is about 4-4400 GS and does garfrost in about 6minutes.
- bypass the 2 groups of caster+little skellies,
- follow the quarry ledge
- skip big Skeleton
- kill first dragon+rider (just stun the rider when he's about 80% hp to avoid sword) - i kill it because for me it was quicker than waiting for his correct pathing position
- skip second skeleton
- skip second dragon (move to the right side when he's near garfrost)
- kill garfrost
- loot and use LFD > PoS again, you'll be in a fresh instance in a second.

zenga
09-09-2010, 10:42 PM
No offense, but how long can you keep repeating this before you go mental?

Zub
09-10-2010, 01:29 AM
No offense, but how long can you keep repeating this before you go mental?
me? once :-)

i do it when i got a random i didn't like, to kill the LFG cooldown

ferretb
09-10-2010, 09:35 AM
I have an all druid team, so I can stealth up to Forgemaster Garfrost. But even then it takes about 4 minutes a run. I'd love to know how to do it 2 minutes. That would be wicked.

Shodokan
09-10-2010, 09:45 AM
I have an all druid team, so I can stealth up to Forgemaster Garfrost. But even then it takes about 4 minutes a run. I'd love to know how to do it 2 minutes. That would be wicked.

Pulling no ads = 30 seconds to boss and about a minuet and a half for the kill (in mostly raiding gear, no t9)


No offense, but how long can you keep repeating this before you go mental?

Me? 3-9 hours depending on if I am out of it or not... if i am super out of it (lack of sleep) i can keep it up till i just fall asleep in my chair lmfao.

Toned
09-10-2010, 10:50 AM
Where's Fenril when we need him.

MiRai
09-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Where's Fenril when we need him.
You rang?


Me? 3-9 hours depending on if I am out of it or not... if i am super out of it (lack of sleep) i can keep it up till i just fall asleep in my chair lmfao.
And you wonder why you're burned out on the game?

ferretb
09-10-2010, 10:55 AM
Shodokan, if you could share the trick to getting there - I think many of us would love to know. I tried it a couple times but there were a lot of fights that seem unavoidable. :)

Shodokan
09-10-2010, 12:40 PM
You rang?


And you wonder why you're burned out on the game?

I don't ever farm garfost anymore, I just don't need to and haven't for quite some time now. Plus ICC trash is more profitable.


Shodokan, if you could share the trick to getting there - I think many of us would love to know. I tried it a couple times but there were a lot of fights that seem unavoidable. :)

Step 1: run right and hug that edge when getting into the instance
Step 2: follow said edge and run straight off (skelli to right, pack of mobs to left, and pat going back and forth...if you run at the start the pat won't be near you)
Step 3: head DIRECTLY to the quarry's edge.
Step 4: give the dragon rider about 15 seconds to start pathing back up north and hug the wall, go into the cubby hole to the left and continue to hug the quarry.
Step 5: wait for second dragon rider to pat north and when he is about 4 seconds ahead of you head north behind his tail... the quarry moves left where he continues to go straight ahead
Step 6: continue to follow the quarry to the stairs of garfrost and start the fight.

Congrats, you have successfully reached garfrost with pulling zero mobs.

I play a single mage sometimes and i do this when i get the instance... it pissed people off and amuses me.

doommachine
12-15-2010, 02:50 PM
does anyone have an idea of what the Cataclysm equivalent of these ideas would be? Or any other gold making ideas for multiboxers? Im trying to find way to make a ton of gold to fund my 25 boxing pve project. I realize i could probably do it with 30 or 40 alchemists but first id need the gold to make that many alchemists. Lol.

Vecter
12-15-2010, 04:52 PM
Closing old thread, if you want to reply start a new one and reference this if needed.