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PeteS
09-03-2010, 11:38 PM
This site is what helped get me start, I started with 2 toons and it was so much fun i had to up it to 3. There caster shamans all spec'd the same with about the same gear.

I have keyclone and have it figured out I believe, well every thing seems to work. I installed Jamba and for the most part it works. Some of the macros I cant get to work like the follow, BUT I was able to set it up so what i really needed worked right.

All 3 of my toons are level 29 right, they make me feel very OP when questing as I can 1 shot just about any mob my level. The basic controls have down and have a number of in game macros I have found at random.

Now, I have the cast from all 3 down perfect and can even get a good rotation going.....as long as the mob stays in front of my 2 clone toons and provided I dont have to run around to avoid AOE's. Basically it's seems clumsy and out of sync. I dont see a fluid movement between my main toon and the clones. This is very much so in any type of BG. I run in...stop wait for the other toons to catch up and cast. The target has now killed my main or is out of range. If I start to cast before the clones are in range I end up with 3 different rotations going all at one time. I'm still casting spells of my choice not from a macro. All 3 toons have the spell's in the same place. I tryed a spell macro and found it to be almost imposable to use if I need to heal a toon or my self.

What did I miss ? Does this just take a realy long time before it starts to look fluid or like you have a clue what your doing ? I have only run 3 dungeons and due to complete failure have not tryed again.


I have the clone toons set with my main as there focus, all macros reflect there focus as being what they target off. It has proven to work well if I need to change toons on the fly. I have hot keys setup that will change the focus to the toon I would need and Jamba seems like it does a good job with the redirecting of what toon is the master.

Macros are prety basic.

lightning- /cast [target=focustarget,nodead]lightning bolt Works well or so it has lead me to belive
other damage spells are the same

healing(the main) - /target focus /cast healing wave Makes both toons heal the main
to heal the clone - /cast [target=focustargettarget,help]healing wave --- My main is targeting a mob and the mob has toon x targeted and thats the toon the would be healed.....no clue how that works but it realy does.

Please tell me where I went wrong, how bad my macros suck and what I need to do to fix this. I feel like I need to keep to my self to avoid looking like a fool. Sure I have it working and make it 29 levels but I can tell that I dont have it right. I dont just want to get by I want to make it work. I have seen a tripple shaman combo in rated arena and it was no joke......right now I dont see my setup ever being close to that.


What I have to work with:

2 24 inch displays, 1 full screen 1 in split screen
Razor Naga Mouse(20 button's and I am good with all 20)
G15 keyboard(handles 18 macros)
G13 game pad (handles 26 macros or asigned keys also has a D-pad on it)

I know I have enough hardware to make this work just looking for some idea where I went wrong.

Harrypott
09-04-2010, 12:47 AM
Often things just take practice and setting up the right way for you. /castsequence is really awesome as well and /click macro's. Once setup you don't have to really care where your toon is at in the sequence as they can all be at different spots.
/stopcasting in your healing macro will stop your toons from what ever they are doing so they actually cast the heal straight away.
There are a number of macro's on the wiki for various toons that I used to get going with my teams. Boxing gets a lot easier and you learn more and get it setup well.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Macros

My Shaman team is only level 13 so far so haven't setup any decent macro's for them. They change so much as you level as you get new spells too.

PvP may not be as friendly to /click macro's since you would want a particular spell to happen at the time? (I don't pvp at the moment)

PeteS
09-04-2010, 01:02 AM
I'm trying the click macro's right now, the biggest problem I seem to run into is the toon ends up out of range of my target if I dont keep a close eye on them or and the biggest draw back is if the toon isnt facing the right direction....there isnt by any chance a way to make the toon face the mob with a comand is there ?

I will add the /stop cast for healing......that realy makes a lot more sence then having a whole diffrent set of key bindings.

I'm uploading a short video I just took showing the problem I am having. I think my main problem is the main toon has to run in closer to the mob to get the following toons in range and I end up agro'ing the mob before I'm ready. I can live with out pvp while I'm still learing things but it would be nice to at least be able to go into a dungen and not get booted. I have been getting a lot of crap for boxing to start with and then when I'm trying to keep up with the tank and 2 toons never seem to get in range it makes it less then fun you could say. Right now I cant even begin to try and think how people could heal and dps at the same time and forget about healing and tanking. I'm almost thinking I would have been better off with a tank and 2 dps as when the main was in melee range the following casters would also be in range.

Harrypott
09-04-2010, 04:35 AM
It's really hard to learn boxing with the random dungeon finder, I started 3 toons and after trying Deadmines a couple times I figured i would add two more toons so other people didn't have to put up with my learning and if I was leveling 3 toons I might as well be doing 5 and be able to do it by myself. :)

Interact with target is the easiest way to get your other toons to face the right way, tell them to interact with the target your trying to kill and they will run up to it and hit it, or tell them to interact with target then tell them to stop walking (or walk backwards) and they will be facing the right way. Interact with target can be found in the normal WoW keybind menu.

All the toons will always look a bit outa sync, if you compare the different screens.

There's a couple ways to pull when multi boxing... although it applies to normal playing too.. Go up fairly close to the mobs and simple pull them via a ranged ability and the mob comes to you. Easiest when starting out.

Alternatively run in and tell the follows to stop so they aren't in melee range of the mobs being killed. The timing to tell them to stop running in takes a little bit of practice, looking at the slave screens is a good way to get the spot right.

Most people have different keys setup for the slave movement so they can move them seperatly from the tank/master toon. This allows for moving them out of aoe while tanking mobs/bosses etc. A spread out key is very useful too when you need your to not be standing next to each other.

Once you get /click & castsequences setup really well you can end up with almost only needing to use 1 or 2 buttons for general attacking, this leaves more time to concentrate on healing and moving out of things etc. Makes soooo much difference.

Your three toons are all dps when doing instances? ranged dps has a fair range so you should be able to leave your followers on follow and just start to dps. talents that extend your rang may make it easier but you would be sacrifice other things for it! if you bind other keys to movement you could use them to move your slaves up but not your main too.

I was using keyclone but swapped to ISBoxer and found it much more powerful and in some ways easier, but there is a fairly big learning curve with everything else.